₦airaland Forum

BluDesk:
I'm a scientist. We are no longer in 2000s


Gas powered turbine aren't as expensive as you would imagine and the volume of productivity it would facilitate isn't compared with its setup cost



That's why Redeem and Convenient University can afford it


Do you know with 5 Billion for example you can have 20 Gas powered turbine that backs industrial productivity.. AND THIS ALONE CAN SUPPORT LARGE VOLUME OF THE ENTIRE CEMENT PRODUCTION CHAINS DAILY AND CONSISTENTLY AND FOR. LONG?


PLEASE ALLOW PEOPLE WITH DEEPER INSIGHTS DO THE TALKING PLEASE.

Xdesign79:
This what happen when govt would not control the price of commodity in the country....everybody does what they like...its so sad.

FOLYKAZE:
Show us the invoice.

DCP said the cost out of factory is ₦2,500. Deal with middlemen and retailers if cement is sold at ₦4,000 in Owerri. It is ₦3,000 in Ondo state

Tayeni:
Lol. Mr Scientist. You have no superior knowledge on this unless you can prove that those figures you pulled out of you @ss is verifiable and true. And only if you can prove that you are an electrical engineer.

If it were cheaper, developed economies would run their industries on in-house power plants.

While being deliberately obtuse, you can also
say tricycles are ccheaper than rails in transporting cement. Can't stop laffing.

BluDesk:
Oliganomics isn't open business.


There are players that have expressed interest even with money weren't granted access. This point was buttressed by BUA chairman asking Dangote how much he truly needs that he is resisting the government opening up the sector and every sector he operates.


It's in public domain

Tayeni:
Why would you "open up" the sector for importation? Nigerians want jobs and at the same time don't want a protected economy from external assault. Pick a fight and stick to it.

BluDesk:
Oliganomics isn't open business.

There are players that have expressed interest even with money weren't granted access. This point was buttressed by BUA chairman asking Dangote how much he truly needs that he is resisting the government opening up the sector and every sector he operates.

BluDesk:
Good

Begin by debating the salient points I raised intellectually, one by one. Then you'll be taken seriously.


Till then, enjoy

Neutralobserver:
Dangote is not running an oligopoly...especially as there are two other companies.




So why is BUA operating freely...and Lafarge too?

Your problem is that you want cememt at a cheap price, not Dangote.

Neutralobserver:
Dangote is not running an oligopoly...especially as there are two other companies.




So why is BUA operating freely...and Lafarge too?

Your problem is that you want cememt at a cheap price, not Dangote.

Neutralobserver:
Dangote is not running an oligopoly...especially as there are two other companies.




So why is BUA operating freely...and Lafarge too?

Your problem is that you want cememt at a cheap price, not Dangote.

thesicilian:
When you consider the overall cost of doing business in Nigeria, including taxes, logistics, raw materials, etc, you'll actually agree with what Dangote is saying.

BluDesk:
Trying to form intelligent.


Opening up a market in economics doesn't equate opening up the market for importation. Who ever lent support to importation here


When you don't know enough, keep quiet, be humble, so you can get educated


Even at that. If importation of any produce makes prices fall lower than locally produced commodity, then importation has greater benefits than local productivity.


Domestic productivity is only truly beneficial with high employment, good produce at excellent prices. If these factors are not in place together in any local production chain, it is economically disadvantaged to produce locwlly

Go and study to improve. I'm not your mate

Kabongo1:
Where can I buy cement for 2500 in Nigeria Please?

BluDesk:
Why did Rabin himself make this assertions

Why does Dangote not succeed in any enterprise where he doesn't have monopoly


Why is he struggling in flour, sugar, pasta?

JEWELofHELL:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/04/our-cement-price-is-lower-in-nigeria-than-other-countries-dangote/

tonyson010:
You believe the bad lie.....

These cost of Transport and logistics are not encountered in other African countries where he sells cement cheaper

Denial up & down. The truth is that he makes loss in other place just to beat the competitors out of market. He then use the profit from Nigeria (being the largest market) to cover his loss.

BluDesk:
The problem is the sector is under oligarchy and not liberalised, hence market prices is controlled by oligarchs which takes the power from the citizens reducing them to dummies, working slaves of the oligarchs


https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/02/09/bua-advocates-liberalisation-of-cement-policy-to-crash-price/

Neutralobserver:
Because Dangote is his competitior, and they are fighting very very hard.

See how Dangote is badmouthing him in the sugar industry.

Big men companies fight each other all the time. (Microsoft vs Ubunutu and Microsoft vs Netscape comes to mind)




And he is succeding in cement where he does not have a monopoly...you can still buy BUA, LAFARGE and even Elephant cement, or imported cement.

You don't understand what a monopoly is.

Tayeni:
BUA and Dangote are in the same industry and are at each other's throats. It takes cooperation to establish an oligarchy. Abi has the meaning of oligarchy changed?

BluDesk:
The problem is the sector is under oligarchy and not liberalised, hence market prices is controlled by oligarchs which takes the power from the citizens reducing them to dummies, working slaves of the oligarchs

Are you aware that cement prices sky rocketed to 3500 Naira from about 2500 Naira because a complex equipment in Dangote got damaged... This created brief scarcity and triggered the cost to rise.

And that when prices shoots up economically, it hardly wants to go back down even after repairs because Greed is the key factor here not economics of demand and supply

This would have never happened in a liberalised economy because other producers would take advantage of market gaps to continue production without spike in prices

GeneralPula:
2,500 factory price isn’t bad tbh..

I knew Dangote wasn’t the problem as people are attaching him to be..

Nnamdi said Dangote is part of Nigeria problem, ask him how, he will be foaming... Is Dangote the reason why south East is a total write off!

One dumbo said he bought cement for 4K in Owerri...How’s that suppose to be Dangotes problem?

Dangote will sell to retailers at Factory price, it’s retailers that will re-set their prices.

So if retailers in south east have added more than profit, then it because the people of south east are billionaires..

Neutralobserver:
In other words, all the cement companies should sell cememnt at government controlled prices...tried before, usually wrecks the economy long term.

Plus you are quoting one of the oligarchs to make your point.








And BUA and Lafrarge could not reduce their prices....

You can buy BUA and Lafarge. I daresay their cement prices are cheaper. It does not have to be dangote...




Okay, so you think all the money dangote gets from cememt goes into his pocket.....a lot of that cash goes into worker's pockets too as salary. And workers of Dangote too need salary iNCREASES occasionally....also cost of doing business, maintenance of plants, upgrading...






It would have...prices would have been much higher.

Ochoiho:
The op justifying this exploitation of the populace with 'higher cost of production" can post these costs per bag to justify such claim. Is Dangote not making profit in the country where this same cement is sold at #1800 per bag? Cost of export as well as local transport is inclusive in the 1800 price. How can the op explain this.
Dangote cement posted a profit after tax of over 300billion For 2019 YOA.
Nobody takes anything from this world. We are all going to die and leave every thing behind.
There is no reason why a bag of Cement should be more than 2k in Nigeria is competition is effective.

BluDesk:
Another emotional reaction



If you listen more patiently in life, you can give fitting answers. You will also. Improve and increase knowledge while at this.


Proverbs 25 vs 11


Rushijg to comment and fight with words is the first sign of choosing a side before properly evaluating facts. Which means, you are not as neutral as you imagine. Mr. Neutralobserver

Neutralobserver:
Okay, Comrade Lenin.

FOLYKAZE:
Control price price as how? You mean they should subsidies cement like they are doing to petroleum? Dangote and the retailers is running a profit oriented business. If you want cement to sell for ₦500, you can open your own plant and sell it at lose

TOPCRUISE:
Only Dangote cement price is lower in Nigeria. All other cement is lower. Besides all other countries don't depend on Dangote