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| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by kimco(m): 9:18pm On Apr 14, 2021 |
Ihedinobi3:I had this feeling i knew you...how bro...been a while. Stopped watching anime for a while now.as for boruto, its a joke. Anyways regarding the insult matter, I made that statement because I seem to receive insults whenever I ask questions on here. Its wasnt specifically directed at you,even though your post to him might've influenced my plea. Wasn't calling your character in question. Sorry for that. Regarding the matter here is a case in point Client is suspected of stealing some goods. Its up to the prosecutor to proof beyond reasonable doubts that indeed the suspect is guilty. All the defence need to do is call the "evidence" into question. That's all they need to do. There is no need to proof that the suspect is innocent, that isnt required. Just sow a seed of reasonable doubt. That's all. The onus falls on the one making the claim against the null hypothesis, that is "innocent untill proven guilty", to provide evidence. So in our case the null hypothesis is "There is no God". Until now no one asked for evidence because it was based on faith...but now it is required. The rules don't change because no one was allowed to question then....the claim is still made and the null hypothesis still stands |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:47pm On Apr 14, 2021 |
JEHOVAH arranged 66 books and a global family of peace loving worshipers have sufficed as He wanted {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} the rest of the world are in darkness spiritually yet you're asking for more books. ![]() Please if those books were added what good will that do you or mankind in general? ![]() And you're talking about JWs as if it's Churchgoers who just assume they're Christians once their parents takes them to Church! ![]() Guy you don't know what it takes to be a JW you're just one of those bench warmers! ![]() Blakjewelry: |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:11pm On Apr 14, 2021 |
Blakjewelry:This is where your hope is: in Politicians! Psalms 146:3-4 Blakjewelry:So what makes you think that a real JW will look at you as one of us? ![]() |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Ihedinobi3: 9:54am On Apr 15, 2021*. Modified: 10:57am On Apr 15, 2021 |
kimco:Regarding the insult matter, I'm sorry to hear that. Wherever emotionally charged subjects are discussed, that is often a risk. I try to be clinical in my approach to these discussions myself so that I can avoid negative emotions from myself and others. That is why I am no longer as visible here as I used to be. Regarding your question, this is something I found on the definition of a defense attorney's job: The following tasks are characteristic of a criminal lawyer’s occupation: Interviewing witnesses Performing legal research Creating exhibits for demonstrations in court Accruing additional evidence in support of their case or for arguments against the prosecution’s charges Examining the crime scene Gathering expert witnesses to testify in court --https://www.lawyeredu.org/criminal-defense.html That is, in order to prove that a client is not guilty, the US defense attorney actually does the work of building his own case including counterarguments and witness testimonies to show that the accusation made against his client either has no merit or at least is doubtful to some degree. This example is only to illustrate a principle. The idea that you have no responsibility to make a case if you are only doubting a claim is completely false. It is a cop-out created by atheists to avoid doing the hard work of thinking about their position. Everybody has a reason for doubting whatever they doubt. The question for the atheist is what makes their doubt reasonable. The issue of evidence is easy enough to solve...if the atheist is actually willing to be reasonable about it. But is he? In my experience and as a matter of principle, the atheist is not. That is why the question of evidence remains for the atheist. In short, the atheist has a responsibility to make a case for his doubt, even if "there is no God" is this so-called null hypothesis (not that I see how it is). |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Nobody: 10:23am On Apr 15, 2021*. Modified: 10:50am On Apr 15, 2021 |
The truth is that Atheists and Religious People have one-sided development. Most Atheists listen to their INTELLECT (Brain) but not their INTUITION(heart). Most religious people listen to their INTUITION(heart) but not their INTELLECT (reason). In order for someone to be spiritually balanced he or she needs to unite both Heart and Brain, Intuition and Reason. It is known as Intuitional Logic. |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Blakjewelry(m): 4:00pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:I am no longer one of you, can't pause my brain for anything, why should I put my hope in politicians? Politics and religion go hand in hand |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Blakjewelry(m): 4:01pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
Ayo13945:The function of the heart is to pump blood and not think, intuition and intellect work hand in hand |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Blakjewelry(m): 4:17pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Your mention of 66 books shows how ignorant you are of the subject matter. Let me point something things things out for you just for educationational purpose.one the book of Jude mentioned the fall of watchers which you will find no where Else but it is contained in the book of Enoch showing the author of Jude knows about the book of Enoch which is is not included in your today's Bible, also Jesus mentioned mentioned the poor man was taken into Abraham's bosom, check your Bible you will not find anywhere were Abraham was taken to heaven but read the apocrypha of Abraham and you will see the full details. I can go on and on but it won't change anything because many people choose to stay in their comfort zone, those books rejected by the modern organizer of the present Bible are well recognize by even the apostles of Jesus so the question is why was it removed from the known conicals we know today that something you will have to find out if you will allow your brain |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:06pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
Satan has captured you completely! ![]() Abraham is still in his grave because no human goes to heaven except only the BORN AGAIN Christians taught how to RULE with the Christ {Matthew 11:11} God never promised anyone heaven, they will all be resurrected back to this earth. The only people going to heaven were selected from those trained by Jesus, so none of those that lived before John the baptist qualified! When i told you that you're just a bench warmer in our midst you wanted to argue, there is no witches anywhere after their death all humans return to dust! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10 So those books are never part of the inspired book! ![]() Blakjewelry: |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Nobody: 8:11pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Good evening my SD how's Trivina and family please explain what you mean by Abraham and others will be resurrected back to earth and God didn't promised anyone heaven |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:11pm On Apr 15, 2021*. Modified: 3:40am On Apr 16, 2021 |
Wow my SB, how are you and your twin sister (mum)? Well Satan has complicated issues for those who feel they can get divine wisdom from anywhere apart from the chosen few God is directing with His Holy Spirit to feed His sheep in the endtime. You can never see anywhere from Genesis to Malachi where God talked about heaven to any of His faithful servants, because that's not His plan for mankind. Earth is where God designed for humans to live while God and all His spirit sons (angels) will live in heaven {Psalms 115:16} so no servant of God thought or spoke about going to anywhere, all there hope is a resurrection back to life here on earth! Job 14:13-15 compare to John 5:28-29 But when Jesus came to train the Israelites for the REAL priesthood God promised Abraham that his descendants will become a blessing to mankind {Genesis 12:3 compare to Galatians 3:25} the people rejected Jesus' wonderful counseling {Isaiah 9:6 compare to John 1:11-12} and their religious leaders began scheming to get him killed! John 8:40 That's why he began telling his followers all the evil things that will befall the Jewish nation, their marvelous Temple and all their people {Matthew 24:15-22 compare to Luke 21:20} his faithful disciples were devastated because they believe in God's promises that the laws and regulations that will bring about peace among faithful people during the endtime will be issued from Jerusalem {Isaiah 2:3} so they can't believe their ears when the Messiah is now telling them that their city Zion (Jerusalem) her temple, and their entire race are doomed! Matthew 23:37-38 So when Jesus saw their faith, love and loyalty towards him he said "don't worry yourself about Jerusalem because in my father's house (heaven) there are many mansions if it's not so i won't promise you, so i'm going now to PREPARE a place for you so that where i stay to rule you may also be with me" John 14:1-3 Do you notice that Jesus actually talked about going to PREPARE where his corulers will stay when they get to heaven? So where were all those faithful servants of God who have died before Jesus? Does Jesus' statement shows they've gone to heaven where there was no PREPARATION for anyone before Jesus? Matthew 11:11 compare to John 3:13 My dear baby girl, God never created humans to live in heaven, only spirits (angels) live there with God that's why Jesus told those going there that they should forget about the normal marital life we're used to on planet earth because they will not have bodies to live like male and female there! Luke 20:34-36 But on planet earth where God made for us, those who survive into the new world will live in peace and security {Isaiah 11:6-9} they will eat so much because food will grow in every part of the earth {Psalms 72:16} God will bless the earth that he Cursed due to Adam's sin {Psalms 67:6-7 compare to Genesis 3:17-19} JEHOVAH will forgive us because of Jesus' ransom sacrifice, we will build the choicest of homes anywhere we wish, our days will not be shortened, we will marry and bear Children in PARADISE! Isaiah 65:21-23 ![]() Rozcol: |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Nobody: 9:19pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Really confused though |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Blakjewelry(m): 9:22pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:So the chariot that took Elijah took him up and throw him into the Mediterranean Sea my friend I said read wide the religion you practicing came from somewhere and they have a back story, you choose to be half fed then you believe you know it all. Jesus reference to Abraham bossom has a back story do your research instead acting you know it all. Also do you also that the Satan you mentioned was never an enemy of God in the old testament? Btw you are yet to mentioned the name of the Pharaoh in the period Moses lived |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:01pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
These are things you can't learn within few days my baby girl, it took me over 24 years to grasp all these so i understand what you mean. But trust me baby girl no human has anything to do with heaven before the coming of Jesus Christ! Matthew 11:11; John 3:13 ![]() Rozcol: |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Nobody: 10:05pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:I'm beginning to feel I know nothing about religion as I thought, I was a church girl but you jw somehow knows how to makes someone feel less of herself in terms of religious knowledge |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Nobody: 10:08pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
My mom is fine she recently celebrated her birthday but on low key |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:10pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
So i should teach you that Elijah was taken to another part of the earth just as an aircraft will lift people up and disappeared into the air (heaven) even a toddler today can tell you that the flying vessel is going to land somewhere. I am one of Jesus' true followers so regarding God's word we have what it takes to know it all! John 16:13 Guy i can't start teaching you all over again when you've taken in atheism so enjoy the BENEFITS of atheism and your hope in Politics! ![]() Blakjewelry: |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:20pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
NO! NO!! NO!!! Baby girl we aren't trying to belittle anyone or intimidate people with how much we know! ![]() I too felt intimidated the first time a 10 year old JW flawed me in a scriptural discussion, though i was amazed at the level of his understanding but i spoke as if i was just chatting with the little boy. Ever since then i began wondering why are they so knowledgeable like that? ![]() The truth is There is a spirit working with JWs if you humble yourself to learn this spirit will start working with you so that whenever, wherever and whoever stands before you will continue to find himself or herself glued to the extent of either becoming your friend to learn more or hate you outrightly due to the way God's Holy Spirit is speaking His words through you! Luke 12:12 Rozcol: |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:23pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
It's OK that's the common thing everywhere, just because we don't celebrate birthdays doesn't mean we hate people doing it. It's just not part of our heritage! ![]() Rozcol: |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Nobody: 10:24pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:What celebration do you people do |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:28pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
Baby girl that's a long story, please forget about religion for now and let's continue chatting as friends i don't want to hurt your feelings! Rozcol: |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Nobody: 10:35pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:see my mom she still look good at almost 50 |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Blakjewelry(m): 10:46pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:hahahaha you just prove my point that man has always been the mouth piece of the gods from time immemorial, show me the part or chapter in your Bible were he was taken to another part of the planet, also what is the essence giving him heavenly lift in the presence of his boy, hmm so na just show off abi. so Enoch too was taken to another part of the planet ehn so na Yahweh teach our boys Yahoo work abi? if you know you can't answer my question avoid it before you knock yourself over |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:51pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
That means daddy is doing a good job on her! If you see Trivina as well she's looking younger than her age! ![]() Rozcol: |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by 1Sharon(f): 10:52pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
Atheists, in their quest for truth and knowledge read the Bible multiple times. Christians touch the Bible only on Sunday on the pastors direction. If Christians truly believe the Bible is God's word, they'd know it like the back of their hand. This isn't the case. Spot on OP. |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Nobody: 10:52pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:I took her pics down did you see it? It means you are perfectly doing well too.My dad is a great man who's loved by many |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:56pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
Just ask for knowledge and we will TEACH you {Matthew 7:7-8} it's a sin on our part of you ask with sincerity and we ignore but when you feel you don't need it of course we can't force it in your head nah! ![]() Elijah was taken to another destination from where he wrote a letter to the king of Israel later {2Chronicles 21:12} as for Enoch God didn't want him to suffer in the hands of the evildoers of his time so God took him away from their midst and kept him safe until resurrection just as He did with Moses! ![]() Blakjewelry: |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:01pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
No i didn't! But i'm sure she must be a paragon of beauty for her to have given birth to an angel like you! ![]() Come to think of it, why another account nah? ![]() Rozcol: |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Blakjewelry(m): 11:01pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:like I told you before, I only do this online to test brain power. if JW comes to my hood, they don't spend up to 10 minutes as tend to give the accurate answer to questions asked. now let me school you on why your answer to Elijah was wrong. In the apocrypha of Abraham, Abraham was taken up to heaven and he discovered heaven has different levels with one God lives as the highest of which no man can transcend it is believed that it is the lower ones that Enoch and Elijah was taken to, even the apostle Paul mentioned same go find out |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:08pm On Apr 15, 2021 |
Wonders shall never end! See someone who doesn't believe in the Bible but wants to teach others about what happened to the characters in the Bible? ![]() My friend, JWs are searching for "the lost sheep of the house of Israel" {Matthew 10:6} so when we notice that you just want to prove you know something we will gently excuse ourselves for you to go out there and teach others what you feel you know. So don't expect my brothers and sisters to waste our precious times arguing with you when there are people out there waiting patiently to learn from us. ![]() Blakjewelry: |
| Re: Why Do Atheists Know The Bible Even Better Than Christians? by Nobody: 11:10pm On Apr 15, 2021*. Modified: 9:34am On Apr 16, 2021 |
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my friend I said read wide the religion you practicing came from somewhere and they have a back story, you choose to be half fed then you believe you know it all. Jesus reference to Abraham bossom has a back story do your research instead acting you know it all. Also do you also that the Satan you mentioned was never an enemy of God in the old testament? Btw you are yet to mentioned the name of the Pharaoh in the period Moses lived