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Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by peggywebbs(f): 12:44pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Are you telling me that science and Christians are two different people? Lol. There are many Christians all over the world that are scientists. There are many Christians that were inventors, philosophers and etc. It was a Christian that was the first to visit the moon. They were reciting the Lord's prayer , research you would find it. Science and religion go hand in hand. I can be Christian and pro-science. They are not seperate from each other. We have Christians in all walks of life, health, education, science manufacturing, and even entertainment. So you really have no point. FatherOfJesus: |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:21pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Of course they did but since you've always been listening to misinformed Churchgoers you won't know the terms they used when saying things related to SPACE! For instance it's after astronauts have traveled to the space and taken a photograph of this planet that all those claiming Scientists were fully convinced that the earth is spherical (round) but what do you have to say about Isaiah who lived about 3,000 years ago when there was nothing like camera or spaceship but said: "There is One who dwells above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers. He is stretching out the heavens like a fine gauze, And he spreads them out like a tent to dwell in" Isaiah 40:22 Or what have you got to say about Job who said: "God stretches out the northern sky over empty space, Suspending the earth upon nothing" Job 26:7 Though the Bible is not a Science textbook but whenever it touches on Science it's information are ACCURATE, so don't think because you've not met those sent to TEACH you what is written in our book the inspired writers knew nothing about space. The One inspiring them claimed He is the Creator of Heaven and Earth, therefore He has given them informations that Scientists only knew thousands of years after the inspired writers are gone to prove that the Person supplying the information in the Bible is REAL! Isaiah 45:18 FatherOfJesus: |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by FatherOfJesus: 1:25pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
peggywebbs:I am telling you that no Christian scientist has ever provided any evidence for their God. They are Christians but if they want to make any reasonable scientific advancement, they put whatever belief they have aside because it doesn’t work. Christianity as a religion is threatened by scientific discoveries, that’s why they are still in conflict with subjects like evolution, Big Bang and evolution. |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by FatherOfJesus: 1:30pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
peggywebbs:if you knew then you would have evidence for your God but look at you arguing it because he doesn’t exist. It’s just a belief and nothing more than that, your beliefs cannot replace evidence. I can choose to believe 2+3=6, it’s my right and it doesn’t mean I’m right or I don’t sound ridiculous. We are not asking religion because we think they have answers, they have not answered any question for more than 2000years now. We asking these questions to make it clear that such beliefs are ridiculous, fictional and should not be upheld by reasonable persons. |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by Ihedinobi3: 2:06pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus: My word! You're way dumber than I keep thinking you are! Can't you walk a straight line in conversation? Whatever you may believe is wrong with the Bible, your arguments and claims still don't line up with reason. Why would the Bible coin the word "Mars"? Is it interested in Mars? That is the question you should address yourself to. The fact that you are interested in Mars does not make the Bible responsible to be interested in Mars as well or to the same degree. It's like calling CNN or Fox News unreliable because they never talk about Aiken in South Carolina. Why should they talk about it? Is it important or relevant to their interests? The Bible does not need to teach you every single detail of cosmology or biology or anything really unless it is relevant to its goal of educating the human believer about God and His Plan for human beings. Because of God's interest in human beings, He speaks to us of issues relevant to our relationship to and with Him. He tells us of the Virgin Birth because of our need to understand the uniqueness of the Man Jesus Christ who, while being very much human like us, never bore the taint of sin that all of us bear because we all have human fathers. He tells us of a global flood because it is important for us to keep in mind that He is able to bring worldwide judgment upon us if His Plan requires it as it will again during the Tribulation. That you think these things are stupid is only proof of your own deficient intelligence. You think human beings can colonize planets that until today still have never proven habitable for human beings--even just zero gravity is detrimental to human health, how much more a planet with such significantly different characteristics from earth--all because of the flights of fancy of a billionaire, and yet you have problems believing that God (an entity that, by definition, is limitless in power and wisdom and knowledge) can cause a Virgin Birth or a global flood. That is textbook cognitive dissonance. But, of course, you don't know that. You probably think everyone on Nairaland is your fellow drunk at the bar without two brain cells worth rubbing together. |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by FatherOfJesus: 2:14pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Ihedinobi3:you can’t have a functioning brain and then believe the numerous unprovable nonsense in the Bible. It’s either you read the Bible with your brain partially functioning or you are an eternal slowpoke who can’t use it. If the scientists working hard to put humans on mars shared your reasoning, we will probably be stuck in Stone Age. You can’t reason beyond God did and he wants it like that, that’s why you are such a lowlife ranting to prove that his imaginary skydaddy exist |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by Ihedinobi3: 2:35pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus: LOL. That is standard circular reasoning. And here, it is a flat out fallacy. What is the correlation between the functionality of a brain and believing the things in the Bible? Can you describe it? Of course not. You just decree that a smart person cannot believe the Bible and a person who believes the Bible cannot be smart, and because you do, it becomes true! It's the idiocy of atheistic arguments (I know I shouldn't be doing this, but I'm doing it anyway for any good it might accomplish, not that I expect that it will). I do read the Bible. But I'm not a slowpoke. In fact, between the two of us, I would say that I'm most definitely NOT the slowpoke. You, on the other hand, . . . I only asked you to put people on Mars permanently first, no? You're the one who thought that because scientists are fantasizing about colonizing other planets, there is something stupid about the Second Coming. What wrong did I do in pointing out that it is still a fantasy? You want to know how much money has been wasted on fantasies like this? There are accelerators and colliders that are built to try to prove the Big Bang Theory. Billions of dollars are spent on projects like that. To what end? Has a big bang been proven? Absolutely not. We just have to wait a little bit more and spend a few more billions. Do you know who's providing that time and money? Human beings and taxpayers. What if we were not investigating brainless theories? Might we have covered the deficit that exists in medical personnel in countries across the world? Might we have more money to put in actual, practical issues of life? Maybe! Or maybe some idiot atheist like yourself would want to pursue another hare-brained idea because they can't stand the thought that God exists. If only you had some common sense, if only you even tried to be reasonable, you wouldn't keep trying to antagonize or otherwise deceive Christians about the truth. You--I mean you personally--have no common sense and barely an intelligence worth interacting with. To talk with you is to either sound abusive or to suffer abuse. There is no possibility of reasoning. You have no ability to think like a normal human being. Or else you simply choose to not use it if you do. If this were a formal forum, you would not qualify for debate on the lowest ranks. That is how unintelligent you have presented yourself to be. But maybe that is why you came to Nairaland. It is not a place wild with thinkers |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by FatherOfJesus: 2:46pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Ihedinobi3:Those money didn’t go to waste because they have revealed more knowledge than whatever has been taught in your churches. For the past 2000years religion offered nothing but lies and idiocy. Because you come online tagging people “unintelligent” doesn’t mean your brain has any atom of intelligence either, it’s just a way to vent your anger on people who don’t agree with you. I like how frustrated that makes you feel Science deserves more funding, every money should go to science as far as I’m concerned because funding religion is a waste of valuable resources. It ends up brewing monumental idiots like you. Science has flown people to the moon and spacecraft to other planets, what contribute has your religious houses offered. They only gather people with bipolar disorder in one house and tell them laughable stories written by archaic humans. You guys come out reasoning like donkeys and get angry when others don’t want to reason like pieces shit. No religious person possess working brain, even if they do, it totally becomes nonfunctional when religious matters arise. This is why atheism is growing, your lies cannot stand the test of time hence your frustrations. I’m ready to knock your empty microcephalic brain to let you know how ridiculous y’all sound when you try to force your laughable stories on right thinking people |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by Ihedinobi3: 3:53pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus: Sure, churches are hardly the place to go to learn anything of value, which is why I don't go to church anyway, but what valuable thing do you--I mean you specifically--know that those experiments have produced? Certainly, we've learned a thing or two, but they cost billions in unnecessary expense and very valuable man-hours to learn. The ROI is pretty miserable. Religion has never done anyone any good. Biblical faith, on the other hand, has made many wise and secured eternal life for them to boot. You have neither wisdom nor eternal life in spite of not being religious. I wouldn't want to be you. LOL. I call you unintelligent because you are unintelligent. My words easily prove whether I am or I am not. Feel free to prove my own lack of intelligence if you dare. I already showed how dumb you are. . .and not merely by declaring you to be. As for being frustrated, how would you know that I am? What am I frustrated about? What did I try and fail to achieve? Am I frustrated that you are unable to follow a conversation reasonably and logically? Why would that be my problem? As for funding, your money is yours to put anywhere you like. You won't hear me complain if you put all your money in a project to try and find the Flying Spaghetti Monster that you seem particularly enamoured of. But you don't get to decide where my money goes. I don't typically fund religion myself unless I have a good reason to. But I would spend a pretty penny on learning the Bible or helping others do the same. My guess is that you can't stand that. And who then of the two of us is the frustrated one? Science flew people to the moon? LOL. It wasn't people who did that? People who had all sorts of beliefs and who worked hard to understand and use material reality that was created by God? Or did you think that all the people who built and are currently working in, building up, and managing the space industry were atheists? Oh, I think you do. I have debated smart atheists who actually have working brain cells. They all agree that being religious or irreligious has nothing to do with being smart. Smart people make dumb choices sometimes. It doesn't make them dumb, so while I personally think that atheism is idiotic through and through, I don't hold that atheists are necessarily dumb. It's just a really dumb choice for any smart person to make. You, though, appear to be dumb even outside of being an atheist. Your arguments have no redeeming quality at all. And the worst part is you seem to lack the basic ability to even self-criticise and self-correct. You don't possess the basic intelligence (or the desire to use it if you do) to discuss with me. The more you respond, the more you assure me of that. |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:13pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
@FatherOfJesus You can continue arguing with misinformed Churchgoers but know that i'm not with them, my organization stands out separate from them. So if you want to know the truth about God's word (Bible) let's chat. Don't think you're arguing with Christians, you're only amusing yourself in the midst of misinformed Churchgoers! MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by Ihedinobi3: 4:28pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
I think that you think that I am like you or that you have made me like you. It is true that my standard for conversation is respect and dignity. I have a rule to never engage in the manner that I have been engaging you. I only broke discipline for the first time in a long time. The only reason why is sort of to give you a taste of your own medicine. The only reason people like you post the threads that you do is to annoy Christians. You make such a noise about science that one would expect that you could at least post educative threads about this God that you prefer to worship, but no, you would rather antagonize Christians. On this account that I use, I have four topics and over two thousand posts. But I haven't posted even a single thread attacking atheism, and unless my memory is failing me, all my discussions with atheists were started by atheists. And proportionally much fewer of them have been like the one I'm having with you. That is, I don't attack atheists or atheism. I find biblical theology much more interesting than anything you believe or don't believe. Many Christians do misguidedly attack other people's theology or lack thereof, but that is not the Christian way. That is partly what my activities here on Nairaland is meant to address. But is that the atheistic way? Is it the atheistic way to attack other people's beliefs just because it's fun? That is, it is part of the code of atheism to have and show no respect for other people? If it is, do you recognize that anyone can be the same way? If the Christian way does not prohibit such behavior, do you realize just how uninhabitable this world would be? If human beings showed no restraint, do you realize that you couldn't even walk the streets? You accuse me of getting angry and insulting you because I disagree with you, but then what exactly were you when you wrote a thread to mock the Second Coming? You probably consider what you did entertainment, but then why would my mockery of your intelligence not also be entertaining for me? Suffice to say that you have the completely wrong idea of me if you think that I care about your own thoughts. I am only responding to you here for my own reasons. I don't believe that you and I could ever have a meaningful conversation that could add value to either of us. You are too arrogant for that to be possible. So, even if I continue discussing with you here, and I'm not saying that I will, I won't be discussing with you anywhere else until I see a good reason to do so. I am not on Nairaland for my own entertainment or to teach anyone how to reason like a normal human being. I am here to explain the Bible to anyone who may care. If a discussion is necessary to accomplish that, I will engage in it. If it isn't, I do my best to refrain. Just a heads up. |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by Blakjewelry(m): 4:37pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:you are wrong the brain is like a microchip it only perform the task it is program to act unlike a microchip, the brain is more complex. religious ideas are just mental conditioning. the society in which a man lives and grow up kinda sum up the man |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:06pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
It's OK i've delivered the message! Blakjewelry: |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by FatherOfJesus: 5:17pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
[s] Ihedinobi3:[/s] this stress because your imaginary friend doesn’t exist |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by Blakjewelry(m): 5:47pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus:well you might be right as long as you a reference point to prove yourself. it is left for me to bring enough proof to counter you. |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by Blakjewelry(m): 5:52pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Dooms day prophet has been with us right from time immemorial. They are bound in different cultures and religion, but do you know what is common among them? they are all dead and what they envisioned never came to pass rather those expectations only ended up in the page of books |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by Ihedinobi3: 5:54pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus: I don't believe I have seen your proof for His non-existence. Must be another one of your fantasies. |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by mhmsadyq(m): 5:57pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Blakjewelry: Though you don't sound like one, but Trinitarian Christians do same to others faith. |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by Blakjewelry(m): 6:00pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
mhmsadyq:you are right |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by FatherOfJesus: 6:06pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Ihedinobi3:Sky daddy loves you |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by FatherOfJesus: 6:07pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Blakjewelry:You can only counter what already has existing proof, not one that has not been proven like your God. No bother will go through the stress of disproving what doesn’t have a proof in the first place. You don’t counter fictions, that’s a joke. |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by Blakjewelry(m): 6:12pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus:every science theory and discoveries were once in realm of fiction but that didn't stop other scientist from taking the opposite side of the arguments |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by FatherOfJesus: 6:18pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Blakjewelry:Mention one scientific theory that doesn’t have atleast one evidence. I will wait |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by Ihedinobi3: 6:19pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus: If you mean the God that the Bible reveals, then yes He does indeed. You do see how you have nothing more to say, right? You never really had anything to say. You were here to mock and now that is all you can do. You couldn't ever show what is wrong with biblical faith even if a lot of money or your very life was on the line. That is how pitiful you are. It takes a special kind of self-hate to be who you are. |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by FatherOfJesus: 6:22pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Ihedinobi3:I am enjoying making fun of you and your imaginary friend It’s pitiful that he has reduced you to an online peasant because he can’t show himself. Insane people have imaginary friends that no one can see or validate, they get mad when people try to bring them back to sanity |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:30pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
I can understand your condition! 2Peter 3:3-4 Blakjewelry: |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by BetterChurch: 6:36pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by Ihedinobi3: 6:36pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus: Exactly. Of course you are. There is nothing useful to your activities here. You don't educate or challenge. You just mock for your own entertainment. And that shows you for the fraud you are whenever you lay claim to intellectual superiority. You are not even as smart as the atheists I have played with here on Nairaland. You're one of the dumber ones really. Online peasant? For God? Why, thank you, sir. If only it were up to you to give us our roles and places for God. You don't know what it is like to be accepted by God even if only as His doormat. As for insanity, what an irony. |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by FatherOfJesus: 6:40pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Ihedinobi3:Your God kinda putting through this stress because it’s part of his divine plans that I exist Don’t change his divine plan |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by Ihedinobi3: 6:48pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus: Okay. This one's gibberish. |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by FatherOfJesus: 6:53pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
Ihedinobi3:It can’t be as gibberish as the whole bible pages From one what gibberish chapter to another |
Re: Colonization Of Other Planets (A Problem For Jesus’s Second Coming) by Ihedinobi3: 8:38pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
FatherOfJesus: Not sure why it can't be. From where I stand, if the Bible lost all its vowels and punctuation, it would still make infinitely more sense than the word salad you wrote there. |
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