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Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by compton11(m): 4:02am On Apr 16, 2021 |
OkCornel:those u mentioned were before Moses and they have their own Law guarding them. OkCornel:and do they know that is wrong and that is right? OkCornel:then who was 10 commandments given to? OkCornel:u keep mentioning 613 laws. Tell me the one u don't do! OkCornel:hmmmmm |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by compton11(m): 4:03am On Apr 16, 2021 |
OkCornel:non of his followers wrote the the four gospel |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by compton11(m): 4:07am On Apr 16, 2021 |
OkCornel:Jesus didn't say This. OkCornel:u mean Matthew 28 that part of it was later addition? OkCornel:alright OkCornel:which Matthew are u talking about? Don't tell me Matthew the disciple of Jesus is the same Matthew that wrote book of Mathew after the evidence I show u that |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by compton11(m): 4:27am On Apr 16, 2021 |
OkCornel:evidence of four gospel where Jesus chose Paul. OkCornel:how do u know he encountered Jesus? OkCornel:now read it forward and see that Paul was fucking liar. King James Bible And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless[b], hearing a voice[/b], but seeing no man-act 9:7 The men with him heard a voice Now let look at Acts 22:9 King James Version And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. Here the men with him heard no voice Which one is true? OkCornel:but was Ananias one of the disciples? OkCornel:did Jesus prophesized about a man named Paul? Compton11, the internet never forgets, please embarrass yourself by arguing further and asking more funny questions. People will see this thread and come to their conclusions. [/quote] so Christians has no law? OkCornel:where did Jesus say his death And resurrection will fulfilled the law? OkCornel:and whose fault is that? |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by mhmsadyq(m): 5:58am On Apr 16, 2021 |
enilove: I am not here to argue or compare religions. I have no need for that cos Islam is sufficient for me, without a doubt. It is you Christians that are INSECURE in your Christianity that go about condemning, ridiculing, misinforming, and outright lies about, Islam and Muslims as if that can secure your erroneous belief in a CRUCIFIED God. You have so far shown that you understand Islam more than the Muslims, so why ask questions you already have answers to? Mischief! I know. I will only answer question 3. Muslims don't worship the objects Christians worship as God. Islam is a Monotheistic religion, while Christianity is polytheistic. But, there is only one supreme God, irrespective of what you claim to worship as God. Allah SWT is that God. [1:2] Al-Fātiḥa-الْفَاتِحَة "اَلۡحَمۡدُ لِلّٰہِ رَبِّ الۡعٰلَمِیۡنَ ۙ﴿۲﴾ All praise be to Allah alone, the Sustainer of all the worlds, [1:5] Al-Fātiḥa-الْفَاتِحَة "اِیَّاکَ نَعۡبُدُ وَ اِیَّاکَ نَسۡتَعِیۡنُ ؕ﴿۵﴾ (O Allah!) You alone do we worship and to You alone do we look for help. |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by OkCornel(m): 1:35pm On Apr 16, 2021 |
compton11: Ever since Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, they had knowledge of what was wrong (evil) and what was right (good). compton11: It was given to Moses on mount Sinai for the Israelites to follow. Mind you some if not all of the things in the 10 commandments were still laws to the Gentiles before the commandments were also written on tablet stones e.g. thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit adultery, compton11: I’ll give you one example. Deuteronomy 22 v 11; Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together. Dear sir Compton11, this is one of the laws of Moses... do you still obey this? Another example; Deuteronomy 22 v 9; Do not plant two kinds of seed in your vineyard; if you do, not only the crops you plant but also the fruit of the vineyard will be defiled Do you also obey this law sir? |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by enilove(m): 8:35pm On Apr 16, 2021 |
compton11: Muhammad's command was for Salim to SUCKLE .Suckling has to do with mouth. Do women who are not pregnant or who are not nursing babies lactate in the time of Muhammad? Stop deceiving yourself. Why asking what was abandoned or abolished? Are Muslims practicing it ? Where is the Surah for it ? Sheep ate it , no be so ? Taqiyyah as usual. Examples of errors and discrepancies in the Qur'an are : Allah SWT said: "But the answer of his people was only that they said, Evict them from your city! Indeed, they are men who keep themselves pure." (QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 82) OR Allah SWT said: "Indeed, you approach men and obstruct the road and commit in your meetings [every] evil. And the answer of his people was not but they said, Bring us the punishment of Allah, if you should be of the truthful." (QS. Al-Ankaboot 29: Verse 29) THE ABOVE IS ABOUT LOT Who was the first Muslim ? Wss it Muhammad , Moses, Egyptians , Abraham or Adam ? Does the Sun set in a particular spot? The Quran says ''yes' . Allah SWT said: "Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people. Allah said, O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness." (QS. Al-Kahf 18: Verse 86) What about Surah 51:49 ? Allah SWT said: "And of all things We created two mates; perhaps you will remember." (QS. Adh-Dhaariyat 51: Verse 49) Are there two moon , two sun, two earth , two pairs of trees . Are there male and female earthworms ? Was Mary the sister of Aaron ? Allah SWT said: "O sister of Aaron, your father was not a man of evil, nor was your mother unchaste." (QS. Maryam 19: Verse 28). Lastly , what is it you don't understand about the hadith below : Hadith A'isha, the mother of the believers, said that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was called to lead the funeral prayer of a child of the Ansar. I said: Allah's Messenger, there is happiness for this child who is a bird from the birds of Paradise for it committed no sin nor has he reached the age when one can commit sin. He said: 'A'isha, per adventure, it may be otherwise, because God created for Paradise those who are fit for it while they were yet in their father's loins and created for Hell those who are to go to Hell. He created them for Hell while they were yet in their father's loins. Sahih Muslim 2662 c In-book : Book 46, Hadith 47 USC-MSA web (English) : Book 33, Hadith 6436 Which part was set for this baby to choose ? As you claimed? Has the baby chosen any part to warrant him or her going to hell . Can you now see that you are the Mumu original. Jesus death on the cross makes 100% physical and spiritual sense., because it is the truth. No creditor would accept a bankrupt man as guarantor for the settling of another person's debt since he could not clear his own debt It is only the death of Jesus that can redeem man from death to life. Adam brought the curse of death upon himself which every man born by a woman , through the sperm of a man, has inherited. That curse went into the blood of Adam and only uncursed blood can redeem man from it. |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by enilove(m): 10:03pm On Apr 16, 2021 |
mhmsadyq: Your Muhammad was the real cause of the problems the Muslims are passing through right now . He commanded them to kill and hate the Christians and Jews. What do you expect us to do ? Fold our hands and let you muslims kill us and convert our children to Muslims ? Is that a religion of peace or violence? We have to condemn evil deeds . 2) To be a monotheist does not mean you are worshiping the true God . There are uncountable monotheistic religions in thus world worshipping Satan. The mere saying ''one God , one God '' , does not mean you are not worshiping the devil . James 2:19 KJV Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. Before Islam and Quran , Christians knew and believed in one God : Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord : Ephesians 4:6 KJV One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. In Nigeria , we have 3 president but it will be wrong to say we are ruled by 3 Presidents . Since they are working together and under one president , it is one President. If the earthly kingdom is in this wise , why can't you Muslims understand that Jesus is God and working for God his Father and under the authority and command of the God the Father ? From your Quran , Jesus Christ did what only God can do. Which is by creating a living bird from the mud. Why did Allah not give Muhammad or other prophets in the Bible such power? 3) If we are not worshiping the same God , why did Muhammad and Allah claimed that it was Allah that did those miracles in the Bible? What was the name of God of the Bible? Was He called Allah ,? Was Allah the name of your god or it means '' god''? Why can't Allah get people to follow and worship him through supernatural power ? Why carrying out idolatry practices of the pre Islamic era ? Why facing the kabah to worship a heavenly God? In the wall of this kabah is the black Stone of the idol worshippers planted .Why ? Hadith Narrated Salim that his father said: I saw Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) arriving at Mecca; he kissed the Black Stone Corner first while doing Tawaf and did ramal in the first three rounds of the seven rounds (of Tawaf). Sahih al-Bukhari 1603 In-book : Book 25, Hadith 89 USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 2, Book 26, Hadith 673 (deprecated) Sahih Bukhari Is the black stone not god in this religion ? Hadith Narrated Abu Raja Al-Utaridi: We used to worship stones, and when we found a better stone than the first one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth (i.e. soil) ......... Sahih al-Bukhari 4376, 4377 In-book : Book 64, Hadith 401 USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 5, Book 59, Hadith 661 (deprecated) Sahih Bukhari IS THIS MONOTHEISM ? |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by mhmsadyq(m): 12:37am On Apr 17, 2021 |
enilove: Like i said before, i am not here to argue or compare religions. You want a debate. I can't debate cos its useless. Your mind is made up to be a Trinitarian, full of doubts. Unfortunate! [2:171] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة "وَ مَثَلُ الَّذِیۡنَ کَفَرُوۡا کَمَثَلِ الَّذِیۡ یَنۡعِقُ بِمَا لَا یَسۡمَعُ اِلَّا دُعَآءً وَّ نِدَآءً ؕ صُمٌّۢ بُکۡمٌ عُمۡیٌ فَہُمۡ لَا یَعۡقِلُوۡنَ ﴿۱۷۱﴾ The example of inviting these disbelievers (to guidance) is like that of a person who calls out to such (an animal) as hears nothing except a shout or cry. Deaf, dumb and blind, they have no sense. Islam is sufficient for me, without a doubt. [3:85] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان "وَ مَنۡ یَّبۡتَغِ غَیۡرَ الۡاِسۡلَامِ دِیۡنًا فَلَنۡ یُّقۡبَلَ مِنۡہُ ۚ وَ ہُوَ فِی الۡاٰخِرَۃِ مِنَ الۡخٰسِرِیۡنَ ﴿۸۵﴾ And whoever seeks a din (religion) other than Islam that shall not at all be accepted from him, and he will be amongst the losers in the Hereafter. I can only teach you Islam, when you are ready. Islam has come to eliminate every other false worship of Allah in disguise and Christianity is a false belief in God. [9:30] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة "وَ قَالَتِ الۡیَہُوۡدُ عُزَیۡرُۨ ابۡنُ اللّٰہِ وَ قَالَتِ النَّصٰرَی الۡمَسِیۡحُ ابۡنُ اللّٰہِ ؕ ذٰلِکَ قَوۡلُہُمۡ بِاَفۡوَاہِہِمۡ ۚ یُضَاہِـُٔوۡنَ قَوۡلَ الَّذِیۡنَ کَفَرُوۡا مِنۡ قَبۡلُ ؕ قٰتَلَہُمُ اللّٰہُ ۚ۫ اَنّٰی یُؤۡفَکُوۡنَ ﴿۳۰﴾ And the Jews said: ‘‘Uzayr (Ezra) is the son of Allah,’ and the Christians said: ‘The Messiah is the son of Allah.’ These are their (absurd) utterances that they voice with their mouths. They (acquire) resemblance with the saying of those who have disbelieved before (them). May Allah ruin them! Where are they wandering distracted? [9:31] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة "اِتَّخَذُوۡۤا اَحۡبَارَہُمۡ وَ رُہۡبَانَہُمۡ اَرۡبَابًا مِّنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰہِ وَ الۡمَسِیۡحَ ابۡنَ مَرۡیَمَ ۚ وَ مَاۤ اُمِرُوۡۤا اِلَّا لِیَعۡبُدُوۡۤا اِلٰـہًا وَّاحِدًا ۚ لَاۤ اِلٰہَ اِلَّا ہُوَ ؕ سُبۡحٰنَہٗ عَمَّا یُشۡرِکُوۡنَ ﴿۳۱﴾ They took their priests and monks for lords besides Allah and (also) the Messiah, the son of Maryam (Mary), whilst in truth they had not been given (any) command except to worship (only) the One God besides Whom there is no God. Holy is He, far above those that they associate with Him as partners. Meanwhile you can continue with your misinformation of the words of Allah and his Prophet behind the keyboard. |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by enilove(m): 2:30am On Apr 17, 2021 |
mhmsadyq: Who is misinformed? You are not misinformed by your Muhammad who wrote those nonsense you quoted up there? You don't know anything about your religion and at the same time you don't want to learn. Show me where the Jews said Ezra is the Son of God ? One of the major things that take majority of people to hell is , to know the truth when it is too late. If you love yourself investigate and ask questions regarding this your religion. I am telling you that Muhammad did not serve the God that created you and I , neither is Allah the God Almighty. Go back and think on the questions I asked you regarding why Allah is not God Almighty. If you don't , you will end your eternity in HELL. Even the Quran promised you this: Allah SWT said: وَإِنْ مِّنْكُمْ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَا ۚ كَانَ عَلٰى رَبِّكَ حَتْمًا مَّقْضِيًّا "And there is none of you except he will come to it. This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed." ثُمَّ نُنَجِّى الَّذِينَ اتَّقَوا وَّنَذَرُ الظّٰلِمِينَ فِيهَا جِثِيًّا "Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees." (QS. Maryam 19: Verse 71-72) If you want to learn , answer those questions I asked in my previous post. They will help you to come to the right conclusion. Islam is pure idolatry : Hadith Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: To run along the valley between two green pillars of Safa and Marwa (mountains) was not Sunna, but the people in the pre-islamic period of ignorance used to run along it, and used to say: "We do not cross this rain stream except running strongly. " Sahih al-Bukhari 3847 In-book : Book 63, Hadith 73 USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 5, Book 58, Hadith 186 (deprecated) Sahih Bukhari Why doing the rituals of the idol worshipers and claiming to be for the religion of Abraham ? The stories of the Bible were copied into the Quran and twisted . But the mode of worship of Islam is that of the pagans . There is no single mode of worship of Islam that corresponds with the Jews and the Christians. Why ? |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by compton11(m): 2:39am On Apr 17, 2021 |
enilove:why u so worry then? I've already told u what was done,so it is your problem to accept or not. Ok the hadith is fabricated,is that what u want to hear? enilove:I don't really know that. enilove:cos u said it and I asked what was it. enilove:practising what? enilove:surah for what? enilove:sheep in your house use to eat paper right? enilove:do u even know the meaning of taqiyyah? enilove:keep it coming enilove:heheheehe two different encounters and that doesn't happen in one day. So u think the answer of lot people is only that two? Keeping deceiving yourself Even the statement he said before they utter the statements are different. Let start from verse 80 Quran 7 v 80-82 And (remember) Lout (Lot), when he said to his people: "Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the 'Alamin (mankind and jinns)? "Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins)." And the answer of his people was only that they said: "Drive them out of your town, these are indeed men who want to be pure (from sins)!" This is the beginning of their encounter with them he even ask them questions there compare to Quran 29 v 28-29 And Lut, as he said to his people, "Surely you indeed come up to (such) obscenity as in no way has any of the worlds (that) preceded you (done so). Do you really come up to (obscenity) to men, and cut the way, and come up in your assembly to maleficence?" Yet, in no way was the answer of his people (anything) except that they said, "Come up with the torment of Allah in case you are of the sincere." Two different encounters and different statement. Try again bro One if the first answer of his people in that first verse says when he was telling the people to repent they said they should ban him and his believing people from their town while the second answer among the incident was that they were waiting for God punishment on them,so where is the contradictions? Are u saying all the years Lot preached to his people it is only one answers they gave him? enilove:another GJO moshay tactic. A Muslim is a person that submit to the will of his Lord and that person was Adam during his time. enilove:All of them were Muslims. enilove:what are u trying to insinuating Here? enilove:wow Mr man this is the correct translation And of every thing We have created in pairs: That ye may receive instruction. Allah was talking about everything that he created in pair not that everything was created in pair. If u understand Yoruba Ati ninu awọn nkan ti ada ni mejimeji Or Ati gbogbo nkan ti a da ni mejimeji enilove:heheheehe Sister by kin,maryam was from the descendant of Moses the brother of Aaron,so there is nothing bad calling him sister of good person,and sister doesn't mean siblings. It can be used in many ways. Now look that Bible Matthew 1:1 King James Bible The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Is Jesus the son of David? Is David the son of Abraham? enilove:I've already answer u on This enilove:has the baby reached the age that knows the part he would chose? Stop asking stupid question. Hasnaa’ bint Mu’aawiyyah from Bani Suraym said: my paternal uncle told me: I said, O Messenger of Allaah, who will be in Paradise? He said: Prophets will be in Paradise, martyrs will be in Paradise, infants will be in Paradise and baby girls who were buried alive will be in Paradise. Narrated by Imaam Ahmad, 5/409; classed as da’eef by al-Albaani in Da’eef al-Jaami’, 5997. enilove:which 100% and which truth be deceiving yourself. Is it in your contradicted book make 100% to u? Even the event was contradicted How did judas DIED? Did judas returned the money he collected? enilove:u sin u get punished for your own sin. enilove:it sweet Na Jeremiah 31v29-30 In those days they will not say again, ‘The fathers have eaten sour grapes, And the children’s teeth are set on edge.’ 30“But everyone will die for his own iniquity; each man who eats the sour grapes, his teeth will be set on edge. Human sacrifice,yall ain't difference from sango people. enilove:wow When God curse Eve for eating fruit,he said "I will make your pains in childbearing very severe" Now Jesus died for Adam and Eve sin,then how how women are still in pain during child bearing? |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by compton11(m): 2:48am On Apr 17, 2021 |
OkCornel:and what are u trying to insinuate here? OkCornel:and jesus came to fulfill it too. OkCornel:now u followed it,why don't u ignore it since it is for isrealite? OkCornel:the question supposed to be Do u followed it? Since u follow some then u must follow the rest. OkCornel:why won't u follow this? OkCornel:I followed Islamic law that was set for me bro. |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by mhmsadyq(m): 6:11am On Apr 17, 2021 |
enilove: Ok. Wouldn't it be Noble for a Muslim to learn Islam from a Trinitarian? [2:109] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة "وَدَّ کَثِیۡرٌ مِّنۡ اَہۡلِ الۡکِتٰبِ لَوۡ یَرُدُّوۡنَکُمۡ مِّنۡۢ بَعۡدِ اِیۡمَانِکُمۡ کُفَّارًا ۚۖ حَسَدًا مِّنۡ عِنۡدِ اَنۡفُسِہِمۡ مِّنۡۢ بَعۡدِ مَا تَبَیَّنَ لَہُمُ الۡحَقُّ ۚ فَاعۡفُوۡا وَ اصۡفَحُوۡا حَتّٰی یَاۡتِیَ اللّٰہُ بِاَمۡرِہٖ ؕ اِنَّ اللّٰہَ عَلٰی کُلِّ شَیۡءٍ قَدِیۡرٌ ﴿۱۰۹﴾ Many of the People of the Book desire to turn you back to disbelief after you have believed because of the jealousy they have in their hearts, despite the fact that the truth has become evident to them. So keep forbearing and overlooking till Allah sends His command. Verily, Allah has (absolute) control over everything. Talking about the Jews and the Christians: [2:113] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة "وَ قَالَتِ الۡیَہُوۡدُ لَیۡسَتِ النَّصٰرٰی عَلٰی شَیۡءٍ ۪ وَّ قَالَتِ النَّصٰرٰی لَیۡسَتِ الۡیَہُوۡدُ عَلٰی شَیۡءٍ ۙ وَّ ہُمۡ یَتۡلُوۡنَ الۡکِتٰبَ ؕ کَذٰلِکَ قَالَ الَّذِیۡنَ لَا یَعۡلَمُوۡنَ مِثۡلَ قَوۡلِہِمۡ ۚ فَاللّٰہُ یَحۡکُمُ بَیۡنَہُمۡ یَوۡمَ الۡقِیٰمَۃِ فِیۡمَا کَانُوۡا فِیۡہِ یَخۡتَلِفُوۡنَ ﴿۱۱۳﴾ And the Jews say: ‘The Christians do not have their base upon anything (i.e., sound faith),’ and the Christians say: ‘The Jews do not have their base upon anything,’ yet they (all) read the Book (revealed by Allah). Likewise, they (the polytheists) who do not have any (heavenly) knowledge (at all) also make statements like theirs. So Allah will (Himself) judge between them on the Day of Resurrection in the matter in which they differ. For ypur lies: [10:69] Yūnus-يُوْنـُس "قُلۡ اِنَّ الَّذِیۡنَ یَفۡتَرُوۡنَ عَلَی اللّٰہِ الۡکَذِبَ لَا یُفۡلِحُوۡنَ ﴿ؕ۶۹﴾ Say: ‘Surely, those who fabricate lies against Allah shall not prosper.’ [10:70] Yūnus-يُوْنـُس "مَتَاعٌ فِی الدُّنۡیَا ثُمَّ اِلَیۡنَا مَرۡجِعُہُمۡ ثُمَّ نُذِیۡقُہُمُ الۡعَذَابَ الشَّدِیۡدَ بِمَا کَانُوۡا یَکۡفُرُوۡنَ ﴿٪۷۰﴾ There is (but a few days’) enjoyment in this world. Then they are to return to Us. We shall then afflict them with a severe torment as recompense for their disbelief. |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by enilove(m): 8:02am On Apr 17, 2021 |
mhmsadyq: Your prophet was commanded to learn from the trinitarians , talk less of you : Allah SWT said: "So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters." (QS. Yunus 10: Verse 94) There are some revelation from your books that you need to know which might help you to have a rethink : Hadith Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri: I heard that the people asked the Prophet of Allah (ﷺ): Water is brought for you from the well of Buda'ah. It is a well in which dead dogs, menstrual clothes and excrement of people are thrown. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) replied: Verily water is pure and is not defiled by anything. Abu Dawud said I heard Qutaibah b. Sa'id say: I asked the person in charge of the well of Bud'ah about the depth of the well. He replied: At most the water reaches pubes. Then I asked: Where does it reach when its level goes down ? He replied: Below the private part of the body. Abu Dawud said: I measured the breadth of the well of Buda'ah with my sheet which I stretched over it. I them measured it with the hand. It measured six cubits in breadth. I then asked the man who opened the door of garden for me and admitted me to it: Has the condition of this well changed from what it had originally been in the past ? He replied: No. I saw the color of water in this well had changed. Sahih (Al-Albani) Sunan Abi Dawud 67 In-book : Book 1, Hadith 67 English translation : Book 1, Hadith 67 Abu Dawood |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by enilove(m): 9:42am On Apr 17, 2021 |
compton11: Why should you have faith in fabricated books ? Qur'an was burnt because of errors and the uthman version is no longer available. The Hafs and other ones are recitations according to what they feel they should write down. The hadiiths are either weak or okay according to you Muslims to hide the truths. The issue of breast feeding shows who Muhammad was . What about the case of temporary marriage ( Mut'a / prostitution )? You Muslims don't practiced adult breast feeding because it is a shameful thing. That is why you keep asking me , '' what was abandoned or abolished '', as if you don't understand the question. Like I said , where is the surah for it ? Ate by the sheep of Allah? Hadith It was narrated that 'Aishah said: "The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed [1], and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it." [1]: <i>These verses were abrogated in recitation but not ruling. Other ahadith establish the number for fosterage to be 5.</i> Hasan (Darussalam) English : Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1944 Arabic : Book 9, Hadith 2020 Sunan Ibn Majah ABOUT THE ERRORS AND CONTRADICTIONS/ERRORS IN THE QURAN. --The story of Lot -- You might be right. --The first Muslim? - You are wrong because , Ishmael was b4 Muhammad and Muhammad claimed no warner was sent to his people b4 him . -- The sun set in a place -- Your failure to answer this is an indication that it is a BIG ERROR. --The surah 51:49 is a clear evidence that the writer of the Quran cannot be God. Even your scholars all agreed that the Quran is saying that , ''everything was created in pairs. -- That of Mary isn't about descendants Mary was called the daughter of Imran who was also the father of Moses and Aaron: Allah SWT said: "And [the example of] Mary, the daughter of 'Imran, who guarded her chastity, so We blew into [her garment] through Our angel, and she believed in the words of her Lord and His scriptures and was of the devoutly obedient." (QS. At-Tahrim 66: Verse 12) Another contradiction is the issue of a baby in the hadith a quoted earlier and the one you gave above on the same issue . I gave you an evidence from your book , you called it ''weak'' and rejected it . I gave you another one which is strong , you rejected it and brought forward a '' weak '' hadith to counter my claim . You can see your hypocrisy now. Your Taqiyyah tactics will land you in hell. All liars are candidates of hell fire. If you say the Bible is corrupt , why did Muhammad swear by the Bible and why did Allah say the Bible is not corrupt ? |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by enilove(m): 12:25pm On Apr 17, 2021 |
mhmsadyq: Do you believe this as a true story or fable : Hadith حَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ نَصْرٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ، عَنْ مَعْمَرٍ، عَنْ هَمَّامِ بْنِ مُنَبِّهٍ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ كَانَتْ بَنُو إِسْرَائِيلَ يَغْتَسِلُونَ عُرَاةً، يَنْظُرُ بَعْضُهُمْ إِلَى بَعْضٍ، وَكَانَ مُوسَى يَغْتَسِلُ وَحْدَهُ، فَقَالُوا وَاللَّهِ مَا يَمْنَعُ مُوسَى أَنْ يَغْتَسِلَ مَعَنَا إِلاَّ أَنَّهُ آدَرُ، فَذَهَبَ مَرَّةً يَغْتَسِلُ، فَوَضَعَ ثَوْبَهُ عَلَى حَجَرٍ، فَفَرَّ الْحَجَرُ بِثَوْبِهِ، فَخَرَجَ مُوسَى فِي إِثْرِهِ يَقُولُ ثَوْبِي يَا حَجَرُ. حَتَّى نَظَرَتْ بَنُو إِسْرَائِيلَ إِلَى مُوسَى، فَقَالُوا وَاللَّهِ مَا بِمُوسَى مِنْ بَأْسٍ. وَأَخَذَ ثَوْبَهُ، فَطَفِقَ بِالْحَجَرِ ضَرْبًا " فَقَالَ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ وَاللَّهِ إِنَّهُ لَنَدَبٌ بِالْحَجَرِ سِتَّةٌ أَوْ سَبْعَةٌ ضَرْبًا بِالْحَجَرِ Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'The (people of) Bani Israel used to take bath naked (all together) looking at each other. The Prophet (ﷺ) Moses used to take a bath alone. They said, 'By Allah! Nothing prevents Moses from taking a bath with us except that he has a scrotal hernia.' So once Moses went out to take a bath and put his clothes over a stone and then that stone ran away with his clothes. Moses followed that stone saying, "My clothes, O stone! My clothes, O stone! till the people of Bani Israel saw him and said, 'By Allah, Moses has got no defect in his body. Moses took his clothes and began to beat the stone." Abu Huraira added, "By Allah! There are still six or seven marks present on the stone from that excessive beating." Sahih al-Bukhari 278 In-book : Book 5, Hadith 30 USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 5, Hadith 277 (deprecated) Sahih Bukhari |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by compton11(m): 6:44am On Apr 18, 2021 |
enilove:who have faith in fabricated book? Hadith is not book but a collection of words after the prophet have gone! Some are real and authentic while some are weak or fabricated. If it is weak or fabricated,we Muslims reject it. Al Quran is 100% belief. enilove:heheheehe your friend segenaija has already tried this your own logic and he failed,i have already told u why uthman ordered all the Quran scripts be burned,so it is your problem whether you believe or not. It is because he wanted it to remain in Quraysh dialect it was during the time of prophet Muhammed(Saw). Quraysh dialect is the Arabic Quran we are using and Quran revealed to prophet Muhammed in Quraysh dialect. The hafs and the others u talked about are same with maybe different writing style in some places except it ain't the same with the fake Quran Christians are printing to deceiving people. enilove:how many time I'm I going to tell I it is fabricated? enilove:shia do mutah not all Muslims. Marriage is about love not contract in Islam. And why did u called mut'ah prostitution? They did marriage but the Only bad thing in that is that they are marry for specific time which is wrong in islam. enilove:why would I practice it when there was no law that says I should practise it? And the hadith that backed it likely fabricated. enilove:no surah for it and how many time u want to hear? enilove:common logic will tell u this hadith is weak. How can sheep eat a paper especially under a pillow? How do sheep enter and check pillow? This is pathetic. enilove:heheheehe even if it is abrogated,it supposed to be in Al Quran and we supposed to see the law that abrogated it but we didn't see any of It. enilove:u still ain't quiting about the error and contradictions of Quran? Keep it coming then enilove:what u mean I might be right? I'm right,not everybody fall for the deception of you Christians. enilove:where did prophet Muhammed said no Warner wasn't sent before him? I need the place. Muslim is who submitted to the will of Allah. enilove:u just post a verse and I don't understand,tell me what u think about the verse. enilove:bro stop being dumb,u understand English clearly aint u? And of all the things we created in pairs In Yoruba if u understand it Ati awọn n ti a da ni meji meji Different from We created everything in pairs. A da gbogbo nkan ni meji meji enilove:in islam her father was imran and her mama was hannat. Islam never mentioned the name of prophet musa sister and father. Plus Bible never mentioned the name of Mary father and mother too,so how do u know mary father aint imran? enilove:even she was called the daughter of imran many time in Al Quran. I don't have problem with my Quran. There is Joseph the father of Jesus and there is Joseph the son of Jacob,same name different people so why having problem with two people bearing " imran" plus QURAN never mentioned the name of Moses father. enilove:where in the hadith the prophet said children are going to hell fire? enilove:heheheehe Hadith is hadith different from Quran and not all of it are true. enilove: I keep asking what is the meaning of taqiyyah? enilove:oh like how Jesus lied that he wasn't going to festival and he eventually go? John 7 Bro u are sweet to debate with enilove:show me the place where prophet Muhammed (saw) made mentioned of Bible and show me where Allah say bible is not corrupted! If not corrupted,sebi u saw it with your two eyes where three versions bible in the same verse were saying different record about David,not even only that,let me give u another shock Plus u failed to tell me how judasi dead and did judas returned the money he collected? Let me give you another shock King James Bible For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village-Luke 9:56 Now in another Luke 9:56 in another Bible version New International Version Then he and his disciples went to another village-luke 9:56. The same verse,different statement. Another one for u bro. King James Bible For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost- Matthew 18:11 In the same verse English revised version omitted it. ------------- Matthew 18:11 |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by enilove(m): 3:24pm On Apr 18, 2021 |
compton11:Why would Muslims be fabricating lies against Muhammad? Anything written that is disgraceful are said to be weak .But you Muslims are just fooling yourselves . Truth is is a guide while neglect of truth is disastrous. Uthman burnt all the different versions of the Quran to rewrite a new one in the dialect of the Quraysh ? a) Why did he burn all ? Was there no one written in the dialect he wanted ? Are there no one in Quraysh dialect that could be maintained? b) If Allah is true God , why did he not tell them to maintain only the recitation of the Quraysh? c) This means Uthman was knowledgeable more than Allah , Gabriel and Muhammad: d) What was the sense in recitation ? If the Quran had been written as they came , would there be need to burn them due to errors? Hadith Ubayy b. Ka'b reported that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was near the tank of Banu Ghifar that Gabriel came to him and said: Allah has commanded you to recite to your people the Qur'an in one dialect. Upon this he said: I ask from Allah pardon and forgiveness. My people are not capable of doing it. He then came for the second time and said: Allah has commanded you that you should recite the Qur'an to your people in two dialects. Upon this he (the Holy prophet) again said: I seek pardon and forgiveness from Allah, my people would not be able to do so. He (Gabriel) came for the third time and said: Allah has commanded you to recite the Qur'an to your people in three dialects. Upon this he said: I ask pardon and forgiveness from Allah. My people would not be able to do it. He then came to him for the fourth time and said: Allah has commanded you to recite the Qur'an to your people in seven dialects, and in whichever dialect they would recite, they would be right. Sahih Muslim 821 a In-book : Book 6, Hadith 334 USC-MSA web (English) : Book 4, Hadith 1789 An excuse that a tamed sheep ate the Quran under a pillow is a lie as you can see. Why did the wife of your prophet lie ? To cover up those nonsense said by your prophet. She knew Muhammad was a liar that was why she felt she could lie about anything to cover up. Muta is wrong for many reasons . Why did Muhammad approve it ? This is Sahih. Is that fabricated also? Hadith Ibn Uraij reported: Ati' reported that jibir b. Abdullah came to perform 'Umra, and we came to his abode, and the people asked him about different things, and then they made a mention of temporary marriage, whereupon he said: Yes, we had been benefiting ourselves by this temporary marriage during the lifetime of the Prophet (ﷺ) and during the time of Abu Bakr and 'Umar. Sahih Muslim 1405 c In-book : Book 16, Hadith 18 USC-MSA web (English) : Book 8, Hadith 3248 ABOUT THE ERRORS IN THE QURAN: ---THE FIRST MUSLIM. You said Adam was the first and other ones are also first in their times, which I disagreed by reminding you that Muhammad Ishmael came b4 Muhammad and Muhammad said no warner was b4 him. You asked me to give you an evidence . Here it is : Allah SWT said: "And We had not given them any scriptures which they could study, and We had not sent to them before you, [O Muhammad], any warner." (QS. Saba 34: Verse 44) THIS SHOWED MUHAMMAD WAS NOT THE FIRST PROPHET AS HE CLAIMED .THIS IS AN ERROR --- Surah 51:49 . Tell me any Tafseer / Tafsir that agrees with you , if there non , then you are a liar and that makes it another error. --- Mary. You want me to show you evidence about the father of Mary : Exodus 6:20 KJV And Amram took him Jochebed his father's sister to wife; and she bare him Aaron and Moses: and the years of the life of Amram were an hundred and thirty and seven years. Allah SWT said: يٰٓأُخْتَ هٰرُونَ مَا كَانَ أَبُوكِ امْرَأَ سَوْءٍ وَمَا كَانَتْ أُمُّكِ بَغِيًّا "O sister of Aaron, your father was not a man of evil, nor was your mother unchaste." (QS. Maryam 19: Verse 28) Mary was called sister of Aaron and was also called the daughter of Imram / Amram .What a Big historical error. How many times do you want me to show to you where Muhammad said baby might go to hell ? Hadith A'isha, the mother of the believers, said that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was called to lead the funeral prayer of a child of the Ansar. I said: Allah's Messenger, there is happiness for this child who is a bird from the birds of Paradise for it committed no sin nor has he reached the age when one can commit sin. He said: 'A'isha, per adventure, it may be otherwise, because God created for Paradise those who are fit for it while they were yet in their father's loins and created for Hell those who are to go to Hell. He created them for Hell while they were yet in their father's loins. Sahih Muslim 2662 c In-book : Book 46, Hadith 47 USC-MSA web (English) : Book 33, Hadith 6436 Any hadith that says otherwise is just confirming to the contradictions in your books. You said Jesus lied? He did not lie. John 7:8 KJV Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up YET unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come. John 7:9 KJV When he had said these words unto them, he abode STILL in Galilee. He clearly told them he was not coming for now and after waiting for sometime , he later went. How was that a lie. He simply did not want them to know the exact time he will be there. As per the Biblical errors . You can't call them errors per se because they are fabricated versions I still have more than 52 errors in the Quran also Again : Allah SWT said: "Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it [as if] setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people. Allah said, O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness." (QS. Al-Kahf 18: Verse 86) Do you believe the sun sets IN A SPRING OF DARK MUD ? Does it move to a resting place? Hadith Narrated Abu Dharr: I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah). Sahih in chain (Al-Albani) Sunan Abi Dawud 4002 In-book : Book 32, Hadith 34 English translation : Book 31, Hadith 3991 Abu Dawood |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by compton11(m): 10:09am On Apr 21, 2021 |
enilove:some of the Hadith were collected from jews and Christians pretending to be Muslims and some Muslims rulers that want to use it to their benefits. While some were collected from deceivers,this happened like 500 years after the prophet death. And why Christians are fabricating lie on Jesus too? enilove:not all people are mumu like y'all. Even if they are hadiths that are good and they said prophet Muhammed(saw) says and evidence showed that it wasn't prophet Muhammed,then we Muslims we still reject it. For example this hadith To love ones own country is a sign of Iman This hadith is weak and fabricated. enilove:there is already Quraysh dialect before,quran was revealed in Arabic of Quraysh. He burnt the ones in wrote in persia dialects and so on. The Noble Quran was revealed in one language and that is Arabic. It has only one original Arabic copy. Arabic 1400 years ago had 7 dialects. There exists today one original copy of the Noble in Saudi Arabia today. A copy of this original copy also exists in Turkey today as well. When the Noble Quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, it was revealed in Arabic, and in the Quraishi dialect. The Quraishi dialect is the most proper Arabic dialect that properly uses the Arabic words without altering their sound. The Quraishi dialect was the most popular dialect in the Middle East at that time, and is today the dialect used among Arabs who speak Proper Arabic. The dialect that books teach at schools is also a Quraishi dialect today. Back in the Middle East 1400 years ago, the Quraishi dialect was not the only one used among Arabs. There existed 6 other dialects along with it, but as I said, it was the most popular. It is very important in the Islamic faith that when we recite the Noble Quran, we recite it in the Quraishi dialect or what we call today in the proper Arabic. We can't pronounce for instance "th" as "sa" or "za". We can't pronounce "la" as "laman". We can't pronounce "ja" and "ga", etc... enilove:nigga dialect he want? Nigga This isn't about dialect he want,it is about how Muslim ummah will be reading in one dialect. The Quraysh one wasn't burnt. enilove:I don't understand that your question. enilove:stupid question So Allah will come down to talk to them as if they are prophet. Or are u saying they should not maintain,so we can be confused like u confused Christians? Why are Christians like stupid questions,why can't u say that same to Yahweh when Bible are being tampered with? enilove:what a dumb nigga? enilove:who told u try burnt it because of errors? enilove:keep searching Google for your confusion. I have already answer u on recitation before,so I won't repeat the answer. enilove:Do sheep in your house used to eat Paper especially the one under pillow? enilove:why would she lie when she wasn't the one that actually said it? enilove:mutah has different meaning it is not only about marriage and mutah dont mean temporal. And what knowledge do u have to say it is wrong? enilove:the prophet banned it after war of Khyber but some hadith said it was practiced during his time and UMAR banned it Muhammad b. 'Ali narrated on the authority of his father 'Ali that Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) on the Day of Khaibar prohibited for ever the contracting of temporary marriage and eating of the flesh of the domestic asses. So this hadith contradicted this. But who are u to say nikah mut'ah is wrong? If she is consent to it,is it your problem? It is better than being a prostitute. The problem is how shia nowadays are using it to commit adultery by marry for 3 days . And this marriage don't have fixed time. enilove:Wow I know where u are going. Allah was talking about The pagans of mecca. They was no scriptures sent to them before, Al Quran and they was no Warner sent to them. Prophet Ismail was only a prophet and a messenger not Warner because during his time ,his people weren't associating anything with Allah and those he lived with were new settlers. Before u became a warner to your people It is either your people are doing what Allah don't want or associating something with Allah. Can u tell what prophet Ismael warned his people for? Warner is different from prophet because u can be a warner without even be a prophet. enilove:where did prophet Muhammed said he the first prophet? Why are Christians remove their brain before they ask questions? Your questions even contradicted FIRST muslim Warner Prophet Nawa for u ooo enilove:no need of tafsirs for this. I have already explained it to u maybe it is u that is blind to understand simple English. And of all the things we created in pair. All the things we created in pairs is different from we created all things in pair. enilove:yes where did Bible mentioned father and mother of Mary names? enilove:what is this all about? enilove:I already explained this to you. enilove:sister Sister of blood relation and daughter of imran his father. Who is Mary father in bible? Oh u want me to believe in this Bible story? NO it is this same Bible that called isaac the only child of Abraham. enilove:where is it say baby are going to hell there? enilove:because Hadith are from human not God So it can be contradicted just like bible. enilove:New International Version You go to the festival. I am not going up to this festival, because my time has not yet fully come." New Living Translation You go on. I’m not going to this festival, because my time has not yet come Contemporary English Version Go on to the festival. My time hasn't yet come, and I am not going." Bible is what causing confusion to all y'all niggas. enilove:heheheehe Fabricated But see I'm not stupid like u cos if I am I would have ask you what was Yahweh looking when Bible was being fabricated. The same book u relied on to take u heaven On error Anywhere where there is omitted verses or contradicted verses is nothing but error Which version of Bible is free from errors? KJV Heheheehe because of KJV countless errors Many versions of Bible were wrote to revised it. , enilove:u are just splitting saliva since enilove:oh that is what u want to say about this ayah? Do Allah says sun set in muddy spring? No The verse says qhul kharnain found the sun as if it is set in muddy spring. What the verse states is that Dhul-Qarnayn found/saw/perceived the sun setting in a body of water, which would obviously be the case when he travelled as far west as possible until there was no more land to travel on. Just as one can easily do if they visit the sea-side and watch the sunset. Is like when u are traveling on road during the sun,u wine seeing something like water on the road. enilove:[b]there was two narration about this hadith form Abu dhaar This is the first One It was narrated by al-A‘mash, Yoonus ibn ‘Ubayd, Moosa ibn al-Musayyab and Haroon ibn Sa‘d. In this report it says that the sun goes and prostrates beneath the Throne or before its Lord; there is no mention of a spring of warm water. It appears in several versions, of which we will mention one here: Narrated Abu Dhar(same man) The Prophet (ﷺ) asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: Then the prophet recite this ayah[/b] "And the sun Runs its fixed course For a term (decreed). that is The Decree of (Allah) The Exalted in Might, The All- Knowing." (36.38) And this is the common Hadith because it was recorded in saheed Bukhari no. 3199, 4802 and 7424 and sahih muslim no159 And scholars of hadith agreed on authentic on this hadith. Now let look at the second hadith It was narrated that Abu Dharr said: I was riding behind the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) when he was on a donkey and the sun was setting. He said: “Do you know where this (sun) sets?” I said: Allah and His Messenger know best. He said: “It sets in a spring of warm water (innaha taghrubu fi ‘aynin haamiyah).” Narrated by Ahmad in al-Musnad (35/363); Abu Dawood in as-Sunan (no. 4002); Hafs ad-Doori in Juz’ Qiraa’aat an-Nabi sall Allahu ‘alayhi wa sallam (p. 123); al-Bazzaar in al-Bahr al-Zakhaar (9/407); as-Siraaj in his Hadeeth (3/258); al-Haakim in al-Mustadrak (2/267) – he said: This is a hadeeth with a saheeh isnaad, although they (al-Bukhaari and Muslim) did not narrate it. All of them narrated it via Yazeed ibn Haaroon, from Sufyaan ibn Husayn, from al-Hakam. Al-Bazzaar said: We do not know that anyone narrated it from al-Hakam ibn ‘Utaybah, from , from his father, from Abu Dharr except Sufyaan ibn Husayn. Yoonus ibn ‘Ubayd narrated it from Ibraaheem at-Taymi, Sulayman al-A‘mash and Haroon ibn Sa‘d. So From the above it is clear that the version of the hadeeth of Abu Dharr which is most likely to be correct is the first one, in which it says: “It goes and prostrates beneath the Throne”, in which it makes no mention of it setting “in a spring of warm water (innaha taghrubu fi ‘aynin haamiyah).” This is based on several factors Cc enilove Nigga if want to ask me questions,just let it be few cos I don't strength to answer this many your questions during fasting and pls stop asking senseless questions. And I ask u small questions but u u are asking many questions,u ask small questions I answer and I will ask my own |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by enilove(m): 12:22pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
compton11: Where are your evidences that the hadiths were collected from the Jews and Christians ? And why the collectors of hadith not able to differentiate between Christians plus Jews on one side and the Muslims on the other side ?Were they blind ? Were there no faithful Muslims who could identity the right people to give out right information about Muhammad? Are the hadiths collected by indolent Muslims ? Are you wiser or knows better than the Muslims who published them for use ? Are the Sahih haditth not sahih again because they contain the deeds of your prophets ? Your excuses are flimsy. Very very untrue. |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by enilove(m): 7:38pm On Apr 21, 2021 |
compton11: You are an habitual liar . I showed you an evidence from your authentic book that Quran was revealed in 7 dialect and you are still saying it was revealed in one dialect. Have you drank camel urine ? What is the matter with you? Here it is again : Hadith Ubayy b. Ka'b reported that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was near the tank of Banu Ghifar that Gabriel came to him and said: Allah has commanded you to recite to your people the Qur'an in one dialect. Upon this he said: I ask from Allah pardon and forgiveness. My people are not capable of doing it. He then came for the second time and said: Allah has commanded you that you should recite the Qur'an to your people in two dialects. Upon this he (the Holy prophet) again said: I seek pardon and forgiveness from Allah, my people would not be able to do so. He (Gabriel) came for the third time and said: Allah has commanded you to recite the Qur'an to your people in three dialects. Upon this he said: I ask pardon and forgiveness from Allah. My people would not be able to do it. He then came to him for the fourth time and said: Allah has commanded you to recite the Qur'an to your people in seven dialects, and in whichever dialect they would recite, they would be right. SAHIH Muslim 821 a In-book : Book 6, Hadith 334 USC-MSA web (English) : Book 4, Hadith 1789 There was no Quraysh version and other versions . The only one that was in circulation was the one Abu Bakr and Umar ask Zaid bin Thabit to compiled . People had been having problems with the recitations b4 the Quran of Abu Bakr was compiled. There were different recitations during the time of Muhammad which caused differences among his followers. Despite this , the Quran is still full of blunders and errors till date. You also lied that there is only one version of the Quran . What about '' Wsrsh version '' used in Algeria , Morocco , Tunisia , Sudan. There is also the Hafs versions , which is more common around the world . There are more than 30 versions with differences in there compositions and various contradictory errors . For example , the Hafs version in Surah 43 : 19 says '' They are slaves of the Most Gracious '' While the Warsh version says '' They are with the most Gracious ''. Which one should we take ? |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by enilove(m): 9:09am On Apr 22, 2021 |
compton11: Allah is not God Almighty. Had it been he was, he would not have listened to Muhammad to reveal the Quran in 7 dialects , because he would have known beforehand that it will create error and mistakes which would lead to burning of the Quran at last. Uthman had to correct the mistakes of your moon god Allah by burning the words of Allah . Hadith Ubayy b. Ka'b reported that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was near the tank of Banu Ghifar that Gabriel came to him and said: Allah has commanded you to recite to your people the Qur'an in one dialect. Upon this he said: I ask from Allah pardon and forgiveness. My people are not capable of doing it. He then came for the second time and said: Allah has commanded you that you should recite the Qur'an to your people in two dialects. Upon this he (the Holy prophet) again said: I seek pardon and forgiveness from Allah, my people would not be able to do so. He (Gabriel) came for the third time and said: Allah has commanded you to recite the Qur'an to your people in three dialects. Upon this he said: I ask pardon and forgiveness from Allah. My people would not be able to do it. He then came to him for the fourth time and said: Allah has commanded you to recite the Qur'an to your people in seven dialects, and in whichever dialect they would recite, they would be right. Sahih Muslim 821 a In-book : Book 6, Hadith 334 USC-MSA web (English) : Book 4, Hadith 1789 Islam is a man made religion for many reasons: --A goat ate the Quran --The Qur'an was burnt --The Qur'an was abrogated ( Changed or abandoned ) to cover-up the lies embedded in the revelation. --Some revelations like adult breastfeeding and temporary marriages were cancelled by followers of Muhammad . Saying , '' this can't be from God '' -- In Islam , innocent babies can go to hell. --Satan was giving Muhammad satanic verses to recite and to bow down to the 3 daughters of Allah. -- Muhammad was the only bewitched prophet in history. -- The hadith's are not reliable although they are called '' authentic'' . -- Allah and Muhammad could not perform any signs and wonders like the God of the Bible. -- Muhammad had to kill and enforce people to accept Islam -- Islam practices are the same with the pre Islamic period of idol worshippers. They converted the Kabah used by idol worshippers to Allah's house. They tawaf Safah and Mawa like the idol worshippers. They kiss or point to the black stone during hadj. --The crescent moon and star sign at the top most mosques is a sign that Allah is a moon god . People had been worshipping the moon and stars even b4 Judaism and Christianity . Deuteronomy 4:19 KJV And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the Lord thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven. Are all these not pointing to the fact that Islam is of the devil ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by Lonelypacifist6: 10:31am On Apr 22, 2021 |
ANTIlSLAM:Women of the middle East always have problems with the desert sand logging in their long hairs, hence the need for hijab, the men also wear head caps to protect against the desert heat. But people don't want to know that. |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by Lonelypacifist6: 10:32am On Apr 22, 2021 |
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Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by Lonelypacifist6: 10:32am On Apr 22, 2021 |
ANTIlSLAM:Women of the middle East always have problems with the desert sand logging in their long hairs, hence the need for hijab, the men also wear head caps to protect against the desert heat. But people don't want to know that. |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by peteregwu(m): 11:52am On Apr 22, 2021 |
enilove: Gbamsolutely correct! |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by compton11(m): 2:13pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
enilove:have u tell that to Arab Christians and Arab Jews? Cos u are here showing your ignorance. enilove:I swear u have problem. I already told u why the other Qur'an were burned but your senseless brain and lost mind won't make u accept. U that your Christian God is real,how come bible versions ain't the same? enilove:mistake? So writing in different dialect is mistake? Is there different between Nigga and nigger You and thou Police and polize? enilove:and how is this make quran an error? enilove:wow u that your own came from Yahweh Give me evidence of this from the Bible Going to Church on Sunday Clapping and dancing in church Where Jesus or Yahweh commanded you to be Christian. Where did Yahweh commanded you to go to Jerusalem every year enilove:I've been asking u,do goat in your father house eat Paper? enilove:correction boy other dialect text different from Quraysh were burned so all the world Muslims would be reading in one text. Wasn't Bible burned too? enilove:mumu u are if a verse was abrogated,it mean a new law would replace it. enilove:Al Quran doesn't back it so I can't follow but u have to follow this though If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. Luke 14:26 enilove:typical Christians apologetic and lie Evidence of that from the quran or form authentic hadith. enilove:he is human But Jesus was slapped too John the Baptist was beheaded Job had terrible disease Jonah was swallow by wale Even Bible lied that noah slept with His two daughters,what an insult. And devil carry Jesus to the mountain too. enilove:the hadith that are reliable are called authentic bro enilove:Haaaa mumu so sign is what make u reason like a dumb nigga like This? Even sorcerers and babalawo are perform signs! What is special In it? enilove:u still ain't giving me evidence for this It is only in Christianity u will hear that we inherited sins from Adam. Explain what Elisha did to little childrens. From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. "Get out of here, baldy!" they said. "Get out of here, baldy!" He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. 2 Kings 2:23:24 Some of the signs and wonders of your god u talked about earlier. enilove:evidence of where he enforced people to Islam and evidence of where he kill people with his hand. There is no compulsion in the religion; right-mindedness has already been evidently (distinct) from misguidance. So whoever disbelieves in the Taghut (i.e. false gods, idols, devils and seducers) and believes in Allah, then he has already upheld fast the most binding Grip, with no disjunction (ever); and Allah is Ever-Hearing, Ever-Knowing.Quran 2:256. enilove:lol that kaabah was built by Abraham and his first son Ishmael in mecca they used to worship In it,after many centuries they passed away,the idolators hijacked it before Islam collected it back enilove:kissing black stone is nothing. We just adore it. U that your Christianity aint the same with pagans. U worship Jesus pagans worship human. U sacrifice an human while pagan do the same. enilove:heheheehe that cresent was introduced by ottoman empire,it is nothing and not all mosque put it in top. Among His signs are the day and the night, the sun and the moon. Do not prostrate to the sun or the moon, but prostrate to Allah, Who created them ˹all˺, if you ˹truly˺ worship Him ˹alone˺. Quran 41:37 But Yahweh said he is sun. For the LORD God is a sun and shield Psalm 84:11. enilove:and Some are still worshipping it today enilove:hmmmm u that that yours ain't from devil. U failed to answer this question How did judas Iscariot died according to Bible? 73 books of Protestant and 66 books of Catholic. Which one is original? |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by compton11(m): 2:29pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
enilove:how is recitation make something an error? U failed to answer this. enilove:so u try to change history right? enilove:heheheehe where is the evidence of this? enilove:and u still haven't show me the error. Even there are different recitation today,the way we Yoruba recite all Quran in Your language is different from those of Nupe,hausa and so on. enilove:show me where their meaning are different! Like I show yours enilove:show me where they have different words. enilove:evidence pls enilove:heheheehe hafs was not a quran translator to English so how come did u see this? enilove:warsh was also not a quran translator to English. Nigga pls show me evidence if this. Plus the verse u quote is doesn't exist like that in quran 43:19 U know I don't suppose to answer this? I've told u that u should answer small questions. |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by enilove(m): 7:51pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
@compton11. You can keep on believing in the god of Islam. What you fail to realise is that , the lies you believe will not change to the truth. When it comes to where to spend eternity , only fools take it for granted. There are many evidence that I have revealed to you but you are taking them for granted. One question I want you to answer is this . What is your proof that Muhammad was a prophet ? This is simple , isn't it ? Show your evidence. |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by mhmsadyq(m): 9:53pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
enilove: This is it: [61:8] Al-Ṣaff-الصَّفّ "یُرِیۡدُوۡنَ لِیُطۡفِـُٔوۡا نُوۡرَ اللّٰہِ بِاَفۡوَاہِہِمۡ وَ اللّٰہُ مُتِمُّ نُوۡرِہٖ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡکٰفِرُوۡنَ ﴿۸﴾ These (deniers of the truth) desire to put out the Light of Allah by (blowing) with their mouths, whereas Allah will take His Light to perfection, even though the disbelievers may dislike it intensely. [61:9] Al-Ṣaff-الصَّفّ "ہُوَ الَّذِیۡۤ اَرۡسَلَ رَسُوۡلَہٗ بِالۡہُدٰی وَ دِیۡنِ الۡحَقِّ لِیُظۡہِرَہٗ عَلَی الدِّیۡنِ کُلِّہٖ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡمُشۡرِکُوۡنَ ٪﴿۹﴾ He is the One Who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the Din (Religion) of truth so that He may make it dominate and prevail over all other religions, even though the idolaters may hate it much. [9:33] Al-Tawbah-التَّوْبَة "ہُوَ الَّذِیۡۤ اَرۡسَلَ رَسُوۡلَہٗ بِالۡہُدٰی وَ دِیۡنِ الۡحَقِّ لِیُظۡہِرَہٗ عَلَی الدِّیۡنِ کُلِّہٖ ۙ وَ لَوۡ کَرِہَ الۡمُشۡرِکُوۡنَ ﴿۳۳﴾ Allah is He Who sent His Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) with guidance and the Din (Religion) of truth to make him (the Messenger) dominant over every (other exponent of) Din (Religion), though much to the dislike of the polytheists. |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by enilove(m): 10:47pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
mhmsadyq: This does not prove that anyone spoke with Muhammad. Anyone can say , '' God said ..... '' , how would you know that God actually spoke to that person ? For example , when God called Moses He gave him signs that made them to believe him : Exodus 4:1-9 KJV And Moses answered and said, But, behold, they will not believe me, nor hearken unto my voice: for they will say, The Lord hath not appeared unto thee. [2] And the Lord said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod. [3] And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it. [4] And the Lord said unto Moses, Put forth thine hand, and take it by the tail. And he put forth his hand, and caught it, and it became a rod in his hand: [5] That they may believe that the Lord God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee. [6] And the Lord said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow. [7] And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosom again. And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his other flesh. [8] And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. [9] And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe also these two signs, neither hearken unto thy voice, that thou shalt take of the water of the river, and pour it upon the dry land : and the water which thou takest out of the river shall become blood upon the dry land. Allah called Muhammad through an angel ? I think that was the beginning of his prophethood . Let's start from their . |
Re: Find out this Bible verse(s) with the Holy Spirit only by enilove(m): 11:43pm On Apr 22, 2021 |
compton11: The kabah was not built by Abraham and Ishmael . It is a pure lie that any wise person could detect. Why would God ask Abraham to build a house for idol worshippers ? Why can't we find such building in Israel ? Or was Abraham not worshipping God b4 he died ? Why would God build a house 2000 years before He will start to make use of it ? Why was it after Umar suggested the use of Kabah that Muhammad and Allah remembered it was built for Allah ? Why will Allah be sharing the same house with the idol worshippers ? EVIDENCE THAT MUHAMMAD KILLED AND MURDERED . Hadith Narrated Humaid: Anas bin Malik said, "Whenever the Prophet (ﷺ) went out with us to fight (in Allah's cause) against any nation, he never allowed us to attack till morning and he would wait and see: if he heard Adhan he would postpone the attack and if he did not hear Adhan he would attack them." Anas added, "We reached Khaibar at night and in the morning when he did not hear the Adhan for the prayer, he (the Prophet ) rode and I rode behind Abi Talha and my foot was touching that of the Prophet. The inhabitants of Khaibar came out with their baskets and spades and when they saw the Prophet (ﷺ) they shouted 'Muhammad! By Allah, Muhammad and his army.' When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saw them, he said, "Allahu-Akbar! Allahu-Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach a nation (to fight), then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned." Sahih al-Bukhari 610 In-book : Book 10, Hadith 8 USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 1, Book 11, Hadith 584 I KNOW YOU WILL LIE AGAIN . THIS IS SAHIH. YOU ALSO WANT AN EVIDENCE THAT MUHAMMAD RECITED SATANIC VERSES IN THE QURAN .SEE BELOW : Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: "And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke [or recited], Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. But Allah abolishes that which Satan throws in; then Allah makes precise His verses. And Allah is Knowing and Wise." (QS. Al-Hajj 22: Verse 52) ASBAB AL -NUZUL The commentators of the Qur'an said: "When the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, saw that his people were shunning him, he was aggrieved by their rejection of the message he brought them and he secretly wished that Allah, exalted is He, reveals something to him which would bring him and his people closer to each other, keen as he was to see them accept faith. One day, he sat in one of the congregations of Quraysh which attracted a huge number of its members, and he wished that Allah, exalted is He, does not reveal to him on that day anything that might repel them from him. Allah, exalted is He, revealed to him then Surah al-Najm (By the star when it stetteth…) [Surah 53]. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, recited it but when he reached (Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-'Uzza, and Manat, the third, the other) [53:19- 20], the devil put on his tongue what he had secretly wished and hoped for and said: 'These are the mighty cranes (gharaniq) and their intercession is hoped for'. When the Quraysh heard this, they were very pleased. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, carried on reciting until the end of the Surah and then prostrated. All the Muslims followed suit and prostrated, and all the idolaters who were present prostrated too. All those who were present, whether Muslim or disbeliever, prostrated except al-Walid ibn al- Mughirah and Abu Uhyahah Sa'id ibn al-'As who were too advanced in age and could not prostrate, but they both grabbed a handful of dust and put their foreheads on it. The Quraysh then dispersed, happy with what they heard. They said: 'Muhammad has mentioned our idols with complimentary terms. We know that Allah gives life and takes it away, He creates and provides sustenance, but these idols of ours will intercede for us with Him. Now that Muhammad has associated them, we are all with him'. That evening, Gabriel, peace be upon him, went to the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, and said: 'What have you done? You recited to people that which I did not bring from Allah, glorified is He, and you said what I did not say to you'. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, felt very saddened and was greatly scared of Allah. And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse, upon which the Quraysh said: 'Muhammad has regretted what he has mentioned regarding the status of our idols vis-à-vis Allah'. And they became even more antagonistic than before". Abu Bakr al-Harithi informed us> Abu Bakr Muhammad ibn Hayyan> Abu Yahya al-Razi> Sahl al-'Askari> Yahya> 'Uthman ibn al-Aswad> Sa'id ibn Jubayr who said: "The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, recited (Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al- 'Uzza, and Manat, the third, the other) upon which the devil projected on his tongue: 'These are the mighty cranes and their intercession is hoped for'. The idolaters were pleased. They said: 'He has mentioned our idols'. Then Gabriel, peace be upon him, came to the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, and said: 'Read back to me the speech of Allah'. When he read it to him, Gabriel said: 'As for this I did not bring; this is from the devil'. And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed (Never sent We a messenger or a prophet before thee but when He recited (the message) Satan proposed (opposition) in respect of that which he recited thereof. But Allah abolisheth that which Satan proposeth. Then Allah establisheth His revelations…)". THE SAME INTERPRETATION IS GIVEN BY JALALAYN. MUHAMMAD WAS AN IDOL WORSHIPPER. 1 Like |
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