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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:36am On Apr 24, 2021
People just underestimate Simplicity. With Ole they just want a complicated playstyle but OGS prefers it simple that's why some think we have no tactics at all.

As Cruyff once said Playing football is simple but playing simple football is very difficult.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 8:38am On Apr 24, 2021
handelex you would make a great propagandist. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:40am On Apr 24, 2021
afrodoc:
handelex you would make a great propagandist. cheesy
Leave am, I dey use one eye look am.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 9:45am On Apr 24, 2021
patrickmuf:
Leave am, I dey use one eye look am.

You dey look am like Jega, abi? grin

Well it is good to have a balance of opinions here, we should just not let it degenerate into personal attacks as it often does.

Me personally, I see a hard limit to what Amaka can achieve with the players we have and are likely to acquire.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:50am On Apr 24, 2021
afrodoc:
handelex you would make a great propagandist. cheesy
Doc is Bielsa also a propagandist? Cos he's highly regarded here as one of those whose team have Taktiks and pattern.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:53am On Apr 24, 2021
patrickmuf:
Leave am, I dey use one eye look am.
Better use em both eyes oo.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:21am On Apr 24, 2021
afrodoc:


You dey look am like Jega, abi? grin

Well it is good to have a balance of opinions here, we should just not let it degenerate into personal attacks as it often does.

Me personally, I see a hard limit to what Amaka can achieve with the players we have and are likely to acquire.
Same here...The Europa League presents a perfect opportunity for him to buy time but if he fails then I expect the board to do the needful...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 10:32am On Apr 24, 2021
Handelex, bielsa no know ball. angry
grin grin

Ole has said this atimes though, keep it simple, express yourself. smiley

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 10:34am On Apr 24, 2021
Crazy opinion!!!

I have a feeling that VDB should be tried as a false 9, he is good at running in-between lines and also a good finisher, you will never know.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:38am On Apr 24, 2021
handelex:
Doc is Bielsa also a propagandist? Cos he's highly regarded here as one of those whose team have Taktiks and pattern.

That is how managers and players talk especially before a big game. Did you expect him to declare that Amaka was a mediocre manager with no tactical acumen?
You have to speak softly, but carry a big stick. In this case soften your opponent up with praise while planning to eliminate him.

How does it help his team to insult their more talented opponents thereby motivating those opponents? I remember 1994 Champions League Final, the eve of which the overconfident Barca Dream Team players and manager were talking carelessly about AC Milan, only for Milan to hand them a 4-0 spanking.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:43am On Apr 24, 2021
KingAlabi:
Handelex, bielsa no know ball. angry
grin grin

Ole has said this atimes though, keep it simple, express yourself. smiley

So you expect Bielsa to criticize Amaka and his boys the day before Ilan Meslier, Pascal Struijk, and Diego Llorente face Edinson Cavani, Marcus Rashford, and Mason Greenwood? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:51am On Apr 24, 2021
afrodoc:


So you expect Bielsa to criticize Amaka and his boys the day before Ilan Meslier, Pascal Struijk, and Diego Llorente face Edinson Cavani, Marcus Rashford, and Mason Greenwood? grin
Clutching at straws, he will anything...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:01am On Apr 24, 2021
afrodoc:


How far bros, you fit help us check their CV? cheesy

2 men both born in the relatively small city of Chelmsford in the same year, entered the same Uni the same year, graduated from the same faculty the same year, and joined the same accounting company (the same year of course)..............years later they are running (or ruining) the same the football club at the same time.

Village people did a number on Man Utd. O ma se o!



Haha, e don be for Man U. Noticed that ex-PwC guys are running the business side of things at man utd. Even the man that Woody took over from is a PwC alumnus.

Wait, Gill never had football experience but his time was deemed really successful (relative to Woody’s), why?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:04am On Apr 24, 2021
KingAlabi:
Handelex, bielsa no know ball. angry
grin grin

Ole has said this atimes though, keep it simple, express yourself. smiley

Insha Allah, rely on individual brilliance.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:13am On Apr 24, 2021
afrodoc:


That is how managers and players talk especially before a big game. Did you expect him to declare that Amaka was a mediocre manager with no tactical acumen?
You have to speak softly, but carry a big stick. In this case soften your opponent up with praise while planning to eliminate him.

How does it help his team to insult their more talented opponents thereby motivating those opponents? I remember 1994 Champions League Final, the eve of which the overconfident Barca Dream Team players and manager were talking carelessly about AC Milan, only for Milan to hand them a 4-0 spanking.

It isn't every time this strategy is used though, some times the manager is just saying it as it is.

If it was Jose, I would have said he is just mostly praising the team.( Deploying the strategy).

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:14am On Apr 24, 2021
afrodoc:


So you expect Bielsa to criticize Amaka and his boys the day before Ilan Meslier, Pascal Struijk, and Diego Llorente face Edinson Cavani, Marcus Rashford, and Mason Greenwood? grin
There are some coaches that just say the truth as it is most of the times, biesla is lately amongst them.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:17am On Apr 24, 2021
nitrogen:


Insha Allah, rely on individual brilliance.
It has taken him to second in the log and to the semi-finals of the Europa, I can't say the same of master class Jose Mourinho.

Oh I just remembered, he has been sacked, so much for masterclass.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:27am On Apr 24, 2021
KingAlabi:

It isn't every time this strategy is used though, some times the manager is just saying it as it is.

If it was Jose, I would have said he is just mostly praising the team.( Deploying the strategy).

It isn't every time, but it is most times. You rarely hear a manager criticizing an opponent before a game unless there is some prior beef. This Bielsa statement which is so obviously a softening up tactic is no different from what most managers would say before a match.

The same way when clubs sack useless managers they thank them for their hard work and positive impact on the team. cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:27am On Apr 24, 2021
KingAlabi:

There are some coaches that just say the truth as it is most of the times, biesla is lately amongst them.

Lately. Since yesterday abi? cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:35am On Apr 24, 2021
afrodoc:


It isn't every time, but it is most times. You rarely hear a manager criticizing an opponent before a game unless there is some prior beef. This Bielsa statement which is so obviously a softening up tactic is no different from what most managers would say before a match.

The same way when clubs sack useless managers they thank them for their hard work and positive impact on the team. cheesy


If you read the biesla statement well sef, he wasn't really praising the team, like saying they are one of the best in the league or have amazing talents, he just said they play simple football, it is a kind of jibe-praise hybrid.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:37am On Apr 24, 2021
afrodoc:


Lately. Since yesterday abi? cheesy
Why I said lately is because bielsa has been quite nasty in the past cheesy, not that he is a changed man, but he has come off age. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 11:37am On Apr 24, 2021
nitrogen:


Haha, e don be for Man U. Noticed that ex-PwC guys are running the business side of things at man utd. Even the man that Woody took over from is a PwC alumnus.

Wait, Gill never had football experience but his time was deemed really successful (relative to Woody’s), why?

SAF
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:39am On Apr 24, 2021
nitrogen:


Haha, e don be for Man U. Noticed that ex-PwC guys are running the business side of things at man utd. Even the man that Woody took over from is a PwC alumnus.

Wait, Gill never had football experience but his time was deemed really successful (relative to Woody’s), why?


If Woody had a vibrant SAF as manager he too would have been deemed a success. All Woody had to do was appoint the right manager and build the right squad, and he has failed 4 different times now. Just for failing on those appointments so many times he deserves the axe.

The only Man Utd Chief Executive whose success is unquestionable is Martin Edwards because he appointed the right manager and built the right squad, and crucially he kept faith with the manager when fans and media alike wanted him to to be sacked.

So it is not just about having football experience but about understanding football and doing a good job both off and on the field.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:40am On Apr 24, 2021
eph12:

SAF

Exactly.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:46am On Apr 24, 2021
KingAlabi:
Crazy opinion!!!

I have a feeling that VDB should be tried as a false 9, he is good at running in-between lines and also a good finisher, you will never know.


grin

Share your crazy Opinion though.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:48am On Apr 24, 2021
Oasis007:



grin

Share your crazy Opinion though.

Wetin you think about am, VDB go good for false 9? cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:50am On Apr 24, 2021
KingAlabi:


Wetin you think about am, VDB go good for false 9? cheesy

He has the movement, eye for Assists and Goals.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:51am On Apr 24, 2021
grin


Handelex finally unravel Ole's Taktiks....... Simple Style.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:52am On Apr 24, 2021
Oasis007:
grin


Handelex finally unravel Ole's Taktiks....... Simple Style.

You want start agenda. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:52am On Apr 24, 2021
Oasis007:


He has the movement, eye for Assists and Goals.
Yeah, and the interplay between him and Bruno will be mad!! cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:53am On Apr 24, 2021
KingAlabi:


You want start agenda. cheesy

grin

No be Agenda nau....... Na wetin Baba carry knack us this Morning.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:54am On Apr 24, 2021
afrodoc:


That is how managers and players talk especially before a big game. Did you expect him to declare that Amaka was a mediocre manager with no tactical acumen?
You have to speak softly, but carry a big stick. In this case soften your opponent up with praise while planning to eliminate him.

How does it help his team to insult their more talented opponents thereby motivating those opponents? I remember 1994 Champions League Final, the eve of which the overconfident Barca Dream Team players and manager were talking carelessly about AC Milan, only for Milan to hand them a 4-0 spanking.

You can tell when a manager is playing mind games and when he's not. Bielsa has a reputation of not sending anybody so why will he be praising up OGS?
Man just said the truth as it and you want to interpret it to mean another thing.

Una really no like simplicity for here.

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