BigBashiru:


Where is the link to your source?? Machinery of $46.8m is questionable. As is aircraft - $169.1m

Kekenapep ... actually Nigeria is shipping unknown machineries to God knows who

Rosskiiku:

Until people like you get it into your thick skulls that AFRICA was designated over 200 years ago as the source of raw materials for the west's industries, and that manufacturing for export (which is what makes countries rich) has been discouraged by sky high tariffs charged all over the world for African manufactured goods, you will keep typing IGNORANT RUBBISH.

Go and manufacture in Nigeria stuff they manufacture in Canada, and try shipping it to Germany or the UK to sell, the way Canada does with ease, and see how well you will do.

It is easy to sit on your computer typing rubbish and pointing fingers. Why don't YOU go into manufacturing and exportation of finished goods from Africa, and let us see how well you do? See all the multiple barriers you will come up against.

You don't know that firms have tried that since before your great grandfather was born, to no success, which is why it makes more economic sense to export raw materials, a less lucrative activity?

But no, according your thick skull, we just do that because we are too ''lazy'' and I guess ''stupid'', to not know as much as ALL-KNOWING you.

Excuse, excuse, excuse! How did China break the barrier? How did South Korea break the barriers, how is Taiwan doing it? India has joined now, yet Africans talk of barrier and slave trade that ended a century ago.
Okay you have barriers to the western market, what about serving Africa first. How about serving middle east, asia?
Answer is LAZINESS. A typical Nigerian worker will spend 5 out 8 hours on scial media and the internet while at work. The factory is another story ... labour with entitlement mentality and urge to steal.
The north with its vast population is peopled by lazy population, who lay about selling currency instead of being in the farm. Those who own livestock hire children as herders and lay about doing nothing. The South East is peopled with resellers of imports, while the West is home to motor touts. So, where is the productive population?
Go out, the same Nigerians lazing about when the leave Nigeria work 2 jobs. Nurses and Doctors put in approimately 55 hrs a week. But back home it is 35 hrs. Teachers are a different specie, I can'r go there..

Validated:

Excuse, excuse, excuse! How did China break the barrier? How did South Korea break the barriers, how is Taiwan doing it? India has joined now, yet Africans talk of barrier and slave trade that ended a century ago.
Okay you have barriers to the western market, what about serving Africa first. How about serving middle east, asia?
Answer is LAZINESS. A typical Nigerian worker will spend 5 out 8 hours on scial media and the internet while at work. The factory is another story ... labour with entitlement mentality and urge to steal.
The north with its vast population is peopled by lazy population, who lay about selling currency instead of being in the farm. Those who own livestock hire children as herders and lay about doing nothing. The South East is peopled with resellers of imports, while the West is home to motor touts. So, where is the productive population?
Go out, the same Nigerians lazing about when the leave Nigeria work 2 jobs. Nurses and Doctors put in approimately 55 hrs a week. But back home it is 35 hrs. Teachers are a different specie, I can'r go there..

Say it again!! I recently read up on the history of Quebec and Ontario and Canada. Quebec was colonized by Britain then later by France. At a point Quebec was war torn. The English and French and the US fought over control of Quebec. Nigeria was only colonized by one country Britain and they are complaining. Today, Quebec GDP is the 33rd highest in the world and a major aircraft manufacturer. China has also started competing with Canada and US in aircraft manufacturer.

Let's assume population of Nigeria is 200m and able bodied working population is 50% of that which is 100m... using the example you cited of employees whiling away 5hrs of 8hrs per day. Now:

5hrs * 5days a week * 100m people = the amount of lost productivity on a weekly basis in hours

This readily explains why Nigeria ain't industrialized. It's not colonization or slave trade...slavery had long existed before Africans were enslaved.

Validated:

Excuse, excuse, excuse! How did China break the barrier? How did South Korea break the barriers, how is Taiwan doing it? India has joined now, yet Africans talk of barrier and slave trade that ended a century ago.
Okay you have barriers to the western market, what about serving Africa first. How about serving middle east, asia?
Answer is LAZINESS. A typical Nigerian worker will spend 5 out 8 hours on scial media and the internet while at work. The factory is another story ... labour with entitlement mentality and urge to steal.
The north with its vast population is peopled by lazy population, who lay about selling currency instead of being in the farm. Those who own livestock hire children as herders and lay about doing nothing. The South East is peopled with resellers of imports, while the West is home to motor touts. So, where is the productive population?
Go out, the same Nigerians lazing about when the leave Nigeria work 2 jobs. Nurses and Doctors put in approimately 55 hrs a week. But back home it is 35 hrs. Teachers are a different specie, I can'r go there..

Your argument is not valid. China as not actually broken any barriers, the same people controlling the west are moving east. So basically Europe, America and Asias economy are controlled by the same people.

What is Alaigbo GDP compared to the same Ontario ?

BigBashiru:
Ontario - CA$848 billion (2020)
Nigeria GDP - 443 billion USD (2020)

This is just Ontario not the whole Canada. And Ontario no even get oil.....

DFOmobolla:


Your argument is not valid. China as not actually broken any barriers, the same people controlling the west are moving east. So basically Europe, America and Asias economy are controlled by the same people.

China has broken barriers by overtaking Europe and the US itself in manufacturing.

Stop giving excuses

BigBashiru:


Say it again!! I recently read up on the history of Quebec and Ontario and Canada. Quebec was colonized by Britain then later by France. At a point Quebec was war torn. The English and French and the US fought over control of Quebec. Nigeria was only colonized by one country Britain and they are complaining. Today, Quebec GDP is the 33rd highest in the world and a major aircraft manufacturer. China has also started competing with Canada and US in aircraft manufacturer.

Let's assume population of Nigeria is 200m and able bodied working population is 50% of that which is 100m... using the example you cited of employees whiling away 5hrs of 8hrs per day. Now:

5hrs * 5days a week * 100m people = the amount of lost productivity on a weekly basis in hours

This readily explains why Nigeria ain't industrialized. It's not colonization or slave trade...slavery had long existed before Africans were enslaved.

I dont want to defend our failure as a Nation, but come on, colonialism in Africa is not the same as colonialism in America. Canada is populated by the colonisers while Nigeria is populated by the colonised.
During colonialism money and resources were been shipped to the west from Africa, it should be a common sense that the west would be more developed than Africa by the fact, they had relative advantage.

BigBashiru:


China has broken barriers by overtaking Europe and the US itself in manufacturing.

Stop giving excuses

Who are the ones sponsoring those manufacturing.

Stop using illogical explanations to back up your claims.

DFOmobolla:


I dont want to defend our failure as a Nation, but come on, colonialism in Africa is not the same as colonialism in America. Canada is populated by the colonisers while Nigeria is populated by the colonised.
During colonialism money and resources were been shipped to the west from Africa, it should be a common sense that the west would be more developed than Africa by the fact, they had relative advantage.

Colonization is about money. Once the British take over they set up trading posts.... during colonization of Ontario and Quebec resources were also being shipped to Britain from Canada.....Canada isn't populated by the colonizers.... and by the way it was Nigeria that drove the colonizers away

DFOmobolla:


Who are the ones sponsoring those manufacturing.

Stop using illogical explanations to back up your claims.

China is a manufacturing country. Don't try to use back door terms like "sponsoring" to dilute this great achievement and downplay or excuse your country's failure. Aren't 95% of imports into Nigeria made in China?

BigBashiru:


Colonization is about money. Once the British take over they set up trading posts.... during colonization of Ontario and Quebec resources were also being shipped to Britain from Canada.....Canada isn't populated by the colonizers.... and by the way it was Nigeria that drove the colonizers away

You are funny, so Canada is populated by the Eskimos?

BigBashiru:


China is a manufacturing country. Don't try to use back door terms like "sponsoring" to dilute this great achievement and downplay or excuse your country's failure. Aren't 95% of imports into Nigeria made in China?

We don't need to argue back and forth, Nigerias failure is not your failure neither is it mine, the responsibility for that goes to our forefathers.

They failed to plan
They had no vision
And definitely they had no foresight.

Its the truth and we should accept it, but then we should forget it (it happens, failure is not a trademark anybody could fail.).

The simplest easiest and most peaceful way out should be what our forums should be for, not emotional tantrums.

DFOmobolla:


We don't need to argue back and forth, Nigerias failure is not your failure neither is it mine, the responsibility for that goes to our forefathers.

They failed to plan
They had no vision
And definitely they had no foresight.

Its the truth and we should accept it, but then we should forget it (it happens, failure is not a trademark anybody could fail.).

The simplest easiest and most peaceful way out should be what our forums should be for, not emotional tantrums.

It's not sufficient to blame "forefathers" 1960 - 2021 is not time of forefathers.... still nothing tangible in terms of manufacturing has been achieved.

DFOmobolla:


I dont want to defend our failure as a Nation, but come on, colonialism in Africa is not the same as colonialism in America. Canada is populated by the colonisers while Nigeria is populated by the colonised.
During colonialism money and resources were been shipped to the west from Africa, it should be a common sense that the west would be more developed than Africa by the fact, they had relative advantage.

Please what prevents Nigeria from colonizing UK or India or Tanzania or Egypt or Ukraine today?? Aren't all humans equal? What Britain can do, Nigeria can also do?

BigBashiru:


It's not sufficient to blame "forefathers" 1960 - 2021 is not time of forefathers.... still nothing tangible in terms of manufacturing has been achieved.

You know sometimes, thoughts about Nigeria and indeed Black Africa at large overwhelms me. The case of Nigeria is not that all we need do is reset the system because the system was never set, so we need to start nation building all from scratch.

I think that's partly what scares the successionists, the enormity of uniting three large tribes together coupled with other challenges.
To them and sometimes I think brainwashing a people composed of largely same culture into unity will be easier to achieve.

But even at that mode of governance in the splintered nations would have to be properly defined.

Whats you theory on Africas future, with no sentiments.

BigBashiru:


Please what prevents Nigeria from colonizing UK or India or Tanzania or Egypt or Ukraine today?? Aren't all humans equal? What Britain can do, Nigeria can also do?

Thats a dictionary definition of life, even while you were growing up there are some things you could do you would sense you father could not. Life is a jigsaw, an haphazard constant.

We are all equal as per homo sapien quality, but what we make do of the intellect differentiate us all.

Amotolongbo:
Is land not part of the factors of production?

The larger the land, the larger the production space and resources for production

But Niger and Borno have more landmass than Lagos so how come they don't have better GDP than Lagos? If only many of you one Nijerianists sounds in bid to defend the failed trash cum country ehn.

kevapet:
But Niger and Borno have more landmass than Lagos so how come they don't have better GDP than Lagos? If only many of you one Nijerianists sounds in bid to defend the failed trash cum country ehn.

Because the major commmercial activities in Nigeria takes place in Lagos and not in Niger and Borno.

Same thing with Ontario where Canadian major commercial activities do take place

Amotolongbo:
Because the major commmercial activities in Nigeria takes place in Lagos and not in Niger and Borno.

Same thing with Ontario where Canadian major commercial activities do take place

Ok. Why then is Lagos GDP better than Kinshasha? Kinshasha is also the major commercial center of DR Congo and 9 times bigger than Lagos. The way lots reason just to defend nijeriya ehn. SMH

Baseless comparisons

kevapet:
Ok. Why then is Lagos GDP better than Kinshasha? Kinshasha is also the major commercial center of DR Congo and 9 times bigger than Lagos. The way lots reason just to defend nijeriya ehn. SMH

when was the last time Congo DR had peace?

Your brain is not functioning

Neutralobserver:


They have industries...which is something we don't have.

They probably don't practice price controls, which means more investment gets attracted

Canada offers free primary and secondary education for all its citizen. University education is heavily subsided
Canadian govt subsidise farm produce.
Healthcare is also subsidised in Canada.

I brought this up because I've noticed ur writeup on this site..both this recent username and old ones.
U seem to believe Nigeria's underdevelopment is because of govt subsidy on social services.
U sound like an elitist capitalist.
Nigeria is a developing country and there's no way prosperity can be achieved by taxing people to death, neither can govt have more revenue by stopping all forms of social intervention. It will only make people poorer.
However, I agree we need to industrialise and promote export, which is a strong point u always advocate.

DFOmobolla:


You know sometimes, thoughts about Nigeria and indeed Black Africa at large overwhelms me. The case of Nigeria is not that all we need do is reset the system because the system was never set, so we need to start nation building all from scratch.

I think that's partly what scares the successionists, the enormity of uniting three large tribes together coupled with other challenges.
To them and sometimes I think brainwashing a people composed of largely same culture into unity will be easier to achieve.

But even at that mode of governance in the splintered nations would have to be properly defined.

Whats you theory on Africas future, with no sentiments.

Africans are a great people who have had their own share of oppression in all fields of life. Africans are also a great people - we bring light to darkness.... we are also a very social people which explains why people are still "happy" despite all the issues bedevilling Nigeria. The downsides of Nigerian culture are lack of discipline, unseriousness and a bad attitude to work.

All Africa needs is a spark of diligence - and I think China can provide that spark...soon Nigerians will start aspiring to be workaholics like their Chinese counterparts.... and that new culture will grow....

Shagaris regime also tried but failed to provide that spark.....

Something else that can provide that spark is public shaming of public officials.... such as the #harassbuhari out of London campaign.

Africa is great and will rise. The future is bright.

SIRTee15:


Canada offers free primary and secondary education for all its citizen. University education is heavily subsided
Canadian govt subsidise farm produce.
Healthcare is also subsidised in Canada.

I brought this up because I've noticed ur writeup on this site..both this recent username and old ones.
U seem to believe Nigeria's underdevelopment is because of govt subsidy on social services.
U sound like an elitist capitalist.
Nigeria is a developing country and there's no way prosperity can be achieved by taxing people to death, neither can govt have more revenue by stopping all forms of social intervention. It will only make people poorer.
However, I agree we need to industrialise and promote export, which is a strong point u always advocate.

Canada can affrod subsides because

1.Tax to gdp ratio is 33.4% compared to Nigeria's 6%

2.It is a developed country with a diversifed economy

Nigeria cannot afford subsides because

1.Low tax to gdp ratio

2.About 30% of the taxable populaiton actually pays taxes

3.Most of the country works in the informal sector, and thus cannot pay mt axes

4.Subdsies on petrol prevent investment and growth in the sector, which means less jobs and less revenue.

I am not an elitist capitalist.(lord knows I want a sutuation where we pay N20 per liter for fuel, and have education free to postgrad) I am a realist. If you want to pay for subsides, fine...but you have to find the money first. And it is by diverdifying the economy, taxation and crucially by running an actively exporting industrial economy


Modified

A lot of people think that Nigeria has enough money. We don't. Canada spent 69 billion dollars on primary educaiton alone in 2019. Nigeria, in that same year, spent 2 billion dollars on primary, secondary and tertiary educaiton alone.

Aunty, how big is Germany and UK? How big is South Korea and Switzerland? Landmass is a small factor actually else Russia's GDP would be bigger than US and China

Amotolongbo:
Why are you dribbling backward to your own goal post?

You said Ontario’s GDP is greater than the whole Nigeria and still having to compare the same Ontario GDP to that of Lagos which is a subset of Nigeria

DMerciful:
Aunty, how big is Germany and UK? How big is South Korea and Switzerland? Landmass is a small factors actually if not Russia GDP would be bigger than US and China

Landmass is a factor.
If those countries mentioned are bigger than that, they will surely be very richer than that.

Why not mentioning small countries in Africa and Latin America to support your claim?

We give excuse too much. How can you say the West control China productivity? The West actually see China as a major threat. Even in US, the black Americans give excuses upandan

DFOmobolla:


Your argument is not valid. China as not actually broken any barriers, the same people controlling the west are moving east. So basically Europe, America and Asias economy are controlled by the same people.

Stop giving excuses, it's exhausting and painful to hear. We are our own barriers. I think it's actually a black defect!

DFOmobolla:


I dont want to defend our failure as a Nation, but come on, colonialism in Africa is not the same as colonialism in America. Canada is populated by the colonisers while Nigeria is populated by the colonised.
During colonialism money and resources were been shipped to the west from Africa, it should be a common sense that the west would be more developed than Africa by the fact, they had relative advantage.

Canada is populated by various people. A lot of Indians and Chinese....but the work ethic is unbelievable. I stay in Canada

DFOmobolla:


You are funny, so Canada is populated by the Eskimos?

Amotolongbo:
GDP is based on the ability of the Citizens to convert the human, land and natural resources of a place to goods and services.

The major makets in Canada is centered in Ontario. So you expect a province which controls the vast land (over 9million square kilometers) and 2nd largest landmass on earth not to exceed that of Nigeria.

Ontario Province in Canada is just like Lagos State in Nigeria. More like the commercial capitals of the two countries

Solid point.

who is bossing my guy rosskiiku that made him to run away from his usually favorite dish?

FarahAideed:


Nigerians are super lazy sha...they hardly get any work done

Is it not the system that is causing this laziness? when you can't restructure so every region will think outtta the box and develop at their pace ..
In Nigeria every state sit and wait for oil money because Nigeria supports that.