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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by Ugandatales: 2:26pm On Apr 29, 2021
Elock1:
grin Nairaland done spoil me finish oh, immediately I saw DEVELOPERS I honestly thought it was a certain tribe.


PS: I'm from that tribe too grin grin

Hahahaha! Same thing came to my mind. I'm sure the mods know what they're doing. Lol
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by chidiebube107: 2:27pm On Apr 29, 2021
Elock1:
grin Nairaland done spoil me finish oh, immediately I saw DEVELOPERS I honestly thought it was a certain tribe.


PS: I'm from that tribe too grin grin
Likewise grin
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by BigBashiru: 2:28pm On Apr 29, 2021
Elock1:
grin Nairaland done spoil me finish oh, immediately I saw DEVELOPERS I honestly thought it was a certain tribe.


PS: I'm from that tribe too grin grin

You are not a tribe...its what the British devised to enslave your mind. Tribesmen are primitive people.

Uk has four major tribes: Scottish, English, Welsh and Irish - there are at least 15 other tribes like celtic and druid but you will never hear them call themselves tribes.

As for this thread let's focus on the subject of the thread which is software development.

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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by Nobody: 2:28pm On Apr 29, 2021
May be experience, moreover you can twik things without getting shot at,most established firms do only routine and maintenance you twik anything they could loss billions ..

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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by JerySmalls(m): 2:29pm On Apr 29, 2021
I want to be a Developer...

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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by Elock1: 2:30pm On Apr 29, 2021
BigBashiru:


You are not a tribe...its what the British devised to enslave your mind. Tribesmen are primitive people.

Uk has four major tribes: Scottish, English, Welsh and Irish - there are at least 15 other tribes like celtic and druid but you will never hear them call themselves tribes.

As for this thread let's focus on the subject of the thread which is software development.
okay, I have heard
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by Kubernetes: 2:31pm On Apr 29, 2021
In startups, its easier to get more experience and job role. In big coys, u can be a junior Dev for 4-5 years because the manpower is sufficient over there. But in startups where they are saving cost, one person can handle multiple roles. For example, when I joined a big Nigerian bank years back, I was battling with customers in the banking hall while my mates in smaller banks were trading currencies and booking off shore transactions.
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by BalogunIdowu(m): 2:32pm On Apr 29, 2021
stanliwise:
Those big companies you mentioned don’t have a lot of product in the market(I mean software market).

Many times they employ expert majorly for maintenance purpose and maybe a one off development team to build a product.

Many software dev in those company works are majorly expert level work and they don’t really have space to hire people to train or give space to grow, so many young devs don’t look forward to them except you have gained ground and your ready to chop money.

As a young dev startups can stress your life for peanuts but would give you a big room to improve your skill set and confidence. So starting out many devs look forward into them.

On a lite note another angle, start up give young devs insight about how company you see everyday are made and raised



Same for ux design
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by melodyogonna(m): 2:33pm On Apr 29, 2021
Apart from popularity, those companies are easier to get into, more likely to aid your development and where you'd likely work. Like actual working. The big multinationals pay more sha
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by GeoAfrikana(m): 2:37pm On Apr 29, 2021
Karleb:
It's actually normal.

These old companies hardly recruit. They were in Nigeria before Andela came and made Software Engineering/Development exciting.

They also use old stack and can hardly change their stacks which is understandable.

New companies recruit like mad! About getting sacked. You need a job to get sacked in the first place.

Startups are fast paced and uses new tools which is exciting to most young people and also the exact reason why many employees in startups are youths.

Pay stack and co are just like our own Facebook, Google, Netflix et al. here. Everyone wants to in these companies in America but people don't really fancy Microsoft et al.

Exactly, imagine some companies still using .net framework in 2021.

When there are cool and hot frameworks like Django, Node, Laravel etc.

Open-source is making giant waves yet those old companies are still spending hundreds of millions for Adobe, Microsoft and others.
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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by Grandlord: 2:53pm On Apr 29, 2021
GeoAfrikana:


Exactly, imagine some companies still using .net framework in 2021.

When there are cool and hot frameworks like Django, Node, Laravel etc.

Open-source is making giant waves yet those old companies are still spending hundreds of millions for Adobe, Microsoft and others.

It's no easy, not even thinkable to change your codebase.
Imagine rewriting the whole software.

They may on the other hand, build new products and service platforms using newer technologies.
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by jaxxy(m): 2:54pm On Apr 29, 2021
That’s were they can gain valuable experience and exposure. Multinationals already have a small internal software department with experienced hands majorly for routine maintenance work and avarage internal projects or upgrades. Special projects they get external contract developers to team up.
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by philcz(m): 2:55pm On Apr 29, 2021
GeoAfrikana:


Exactly, imagine some companies still using .net framework in 2021.

When there are cool and hot frameworks like Django, Node, Laravel etc.

Open-source is making giant waves yet those old companies are still spending hundreds of millions for Adobe, Microsoft and others.
Are you kidding? .NET has lots of acceptance and usage.
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by Yankee101: 3:00pm On Apr 29, 2021
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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by batstan(m): 3:06pm On Apr 29, 2021
grin
Rahkman:
Developers?? If you re thinking any other thing .... you are a tribalist grin
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by stanliwise(m): 3:06pm On Apr 29, 2021
Karleb:


In all sincerity, there shouldn't be anything like old or new stack. But what I mean is, programming languages/tools that are no longer getting attention like before, e.g. C, C++, Jquery and the likes.

Even Java is not as popular as when we didn't have nodejs.
You don’t understand the context do you?
C, C++ and Java are static language and are reserved now to serious applications. The scope changed doesn’t mean this serious language went into silence.
Before now even simple project were built with hefty languages such as C, C# and it’s likes and at then people were just so bugged down and disturbed with how fierce it works and looks.
Then there came increase and high rise of prototyping and weakly typed language which gave leverage to people without proper understanding of coding to make their apps and boom that is where it all started.
Meanwhile the spot reserved for static languages can’t be taken.

So in conclusion, there is a rise in less hardware demanding applications. And new language shined. Never has Java, c, c++ and it’s static brother failed in the advancement race.

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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by 4gunners(m): 3:12pm On Apr 29, 2021
Devs .. Realy wished to be programmer
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by Ezekielmary: 3:15pm On Apr 29, 2021
What's the best language to learn.. now .. I'm learning PHP and it's seems is outdated and no longer in use.. and which company to work for..
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by CSTRR: 3:20pm On Apr 29, 2021
Thermodynamics:
I hardly see any thing about python in any programming thread these days, does it mean that python is obsolete? I'm currently learning python.
Oga, you are in Nigeria.

Go and learn PHP.

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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by Karleb(m): 3:20pm On Apr 29, 2021
Ezekielmary:
What's the best language to learn.. now .. I'm learning PHP and it's seems is outdated and no longer in use.. and which company to work for..

Who told you PHP is not in use?

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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by CSTRR: 3:21pm On Apr 29, 2021
4gunners:
Devs .. Realy wished to be programmer
What is stopping you?

People are starting everyday.
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by Ajibade123(m): 3:25pm On Apr 29, 2021
Rahkman:
Developers?? If you re thinking any other thing .... you are a tribalist grin
I had to read this twice before I grab
you are mad bruh

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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by CSTRR: 3:25pm On Apr 29, 2021
GeoAfrikana:


Exactly, imagine some companies still using .net framework in 2021.

When there are cool and hot frameworks like Django, Node, Laravel etc.

Open-source is making giant waves yet those old companies are still spending hundreds of millions for Adobe, Microsoft and others.
Why change what is not broken?

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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by SavageResponse(m): 3:29pm On Apr 29, 2021
Elock1:
grin Nairaland done spoil me finish oh, immediately I saw DEVELOPERS I honestly thought it was a certain tribe.


PS: I'm from that tribe too grin grin

grin
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by Mftivi: 3:30pm On Apr 29, 2021
tensazangetsu20:
I don't know if it's just me or maybe my network but most Devs I know seem to be more crazy about working for startups than big multinationals. I mean people would prefer companies like paystack, flutterwaves and andela than working at places like British tobacco, ExxonMobil, shell, pwc, Cognizant et Al as Devs.

I see Dev roles regularly on this companies career pages but I hardly meet Devs who work in such companies.

Why are Devs so crazy about startups? The work is ten times harder, hardly any job security. You can be sacked at anytime. Extreme pressure and very horrible pay with no pension benefits or severance package.
I am not a Dev but seeing the companies you listed it could be for lack of innovation and opportunities to develop talent further. Notice that the start ups you mentioned are mostly tech.

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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by GeoAfrikana(m): 3:35pm On Apr 29, 2021
philcz:
Are you kidding? .NET has lots of acceptance and usage.

CSTRR:

Why change what is not broken?

No one is asking anyone to change. In fact, many companies are still using Python 2.
The OP was asking why many developers are crazy about startups and I provided an answer to that.
A typical young (web) Developer starts their career with PHP, python and/or JavaScript. So, it's only normal for them to search for companies that use those technologies which are usually startups.

Many developers learn .NET and other old frameworks after joining a company. I have examples.

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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by Karleb(m): 3:36pm On Apr 29, 2021
stanliwise:

You don’t understand the context do you?
C, C++ and Java are static language and are reserved now to serious applications. The scope changed doesn’t mean this serious language went into silence.
Before now even simple project were built with hefty languages such as C, C# and it’s likes and at then people were just so bugged down and disturbed with how fierce it works and looks.
Then there came increase and high rise of prototyping and weakly typed language which gave leverage to people without proper understanding of coding to make their apps and boom that is where it all started.
Meanwhile the spot reserved for static languages can’t be taken.

So in conclusion, there is a rise in less hardware demanding applications. And new language shined. Never has Java, c, c++ and it’s static brother failed in the advancement race.


Maybe I didn't properly pass out my message, but I never implied that C and its brothers were obsolete.

Besides, many of this popular languages were built on C.

Take for example, we now have Kotlin which is now the official Android application programming language. Do you know how many Java programmers ditched Java for kotlin?

If you are saying people who write Javascript, PHP et al don't have proper knowledge of coding, that is not a right thing to say.

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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by seunny4lif(m): 3:40pm On Apr 29, 2021
Well maybe in Nigeria because big companies in Ireland recruitment are like maddest
They recruit fresh graduates like mad
The top 20 best IT graduating students from my DCU and UCD always get job offers immediately from FB, Master Visa, EBay, Google and Microsoft.
Starting salary from €45K per year
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by cbrass(m): 3:51pm On Apr 29, 2021
stanliwise:

You don’t understand the context do you?
C, C++ and Java are static language and are reserved now to serious applications. The scope changed doesn’t mean this serious language went into silence.
Before now even simple project were built with hefty languages such as C, C# and it’s likes and at then people were just so bugged down and disturbed with how fierce it works and looks.
Then there came increase and high rise of prototyping and weakly typed language which gave leverage to people without proper understanding of coding to make their apps and boom that is where it all started.
Meanwhile the spot reserved for static languages can’t be taken.

So in conclusion, there is a rise in less hardware demanding applications. And new language shined. Never has Java, c, c++ and it’s static brother failed in the advancement race.


You are very right, and I think those languages are reserved for Enterprise solutions but if we are going, to be honest there is few Job positions available for these languages

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Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by stanliwise(m): 4:20pm On Apr 29, 2021
Karleb:


Maybe I didn't properly pass out my message, but I never implied that C and its brothers were obsolete.

Besides, many of this popular languages were built on C.

Take for example, we now have Kotlin which is now the official Android application programming language. Do you know how many Java programmers ditched Java for kotlin?

If you are saying people who write Javascript, PHP et al don't have proper knowledge of coding, that is not a right thing to say.
I am a LAMP stack developer so why would I say such. All I am saying is most of this new languages are made specifically for a kind of programming e.g PHP is specially made for web and JS for mobile and web. Which older languages where just too big and cumbersome that it cut across too many aspect of coding that many part where just fundamental object and no big framework nor library to abstract many things we see today
Re: Why Are Developers Crazy About Startup Jobs? by kpolli(m): 4:24pm On Apr 29, 2021
Simple answer: Cash out.

A startup normally gives out lots of shares to employees with the hope that when they go public or sell, employees can make lots of money $$$$.

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