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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 12:04am On Apr 30, 2021
grin omo Android17 and Illimitable fight no dey end sha..

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 12:19am On Apr 30, 2021
Android17:

I told you your strawman arguments are laughable. You are a novice. You are trying to bring Pep in as a diversionary tool. You wanted to claim Mourinho winning those Carling Cup finals was a big deal and I pointed out to you that he did not win any of those finals as an underdog.

You are an idiöt! I have been on this forum for about 3 months and you could be the biggest idiot I have ever encountered.

Anyone that opines beating Man Utd over 2 legs in a semifinal and beating Liverpool in the final is no big deal is an idiot. Liverpool went on to win the CL by the way - by beating the same Mourinho over two legs in CL semis.


Android17:

Name-calling to deflect again. Huge fail. You are welcome. By the way, you are the one who is lying. Nobody discussed Mourinho being special or not. I said he did not win any carling cup finals he was not expected to win. You have tried to bring up Porto, Inter to deflect and I have nabbed you severally.

You are still repeating this idiocy that Mourinho wasn’t an underdog when he clearly stated in the video that I posted it was difficult mentally for his players because they hadn’t won a spoon in 5 years. He was clearly the underdog in 2005. No one gave him a chance.

Let it be known that I am not calling you a morön to deflect, I am calling you a morön because that is what you are. I could come to your house right now and still call you a morön to your face because that is my true feelings towards your pathetic argument.


Android17:


Another sneaky deflection and outright lie (Arsenal favorites by a distance yet I keep providing more proof that many others saw Chelsea as the favorites as well). First you claimed he was not loved by the media, then you concede that he indeed was loved but that things later went sour. Now you have accepted that he was loved but you are trying to contextualize that love. You are pathetic. See you talking about Mourinho like he was Rafael Benitez in 2004. lol. Don't forget how you lied that United were 2nd favorites and I nabbed you? grin

He was loved by the media because of his first press conference. They hadn’t seen such an arrogant prïck in their lives but that was in June. Football didn’t start until August, you are pathetic.

The love quickly turned sour when he started shitting on the media from day one and there were loads of scandals that followed him throughout that season that made him public enemy number one. By the time carling cup semis came in January, no one wanted Mourinho in the media.

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Android17:

Pathetic liar. Your link and the image attached were with respect to coming from behind to beat Liverpool. He claimed to be gesturing to the press that they should "shush it" because he felt they were getting ready to write another article about Chelsea. For context, Chelsea had lost to Barca 2-1 and Newcastle in the FA Cup back to back prior to that game. Of course, everyone knows it was the Liverpool fans he was actually telling to shush it as video evidence will show.

You are a pathological liar! He was actually shushing the media. If he shushed the fans, he would say he did and apologized. Mourinho did far more serious offence than lying about what he did.

He said he shushed the media for writing negative articles about him - which you also alluded to that his team was being referred to as boring boring Chelsea. Are you going to walk back your own comments less than 24 hours?

Who raised you? angry angry angry


Android17:

This is literally the stupidest argument ever. You lied that the media disliked him, I debunked it. The media loved his charisma, his mind games, his siege mentality and the fact that he was winning but everyone knew his style was usually ultra defensive and boring.

This fool keeps conspiring with his village spirits to walk himself into a pit filled with vipers. For him to use a siege mentality, there must be evidence of media hatred, he must have been a victim of something. Someone universally loved by the media like you claimed cannot use siege mentality unless you don’t know the meaning of what you typed.

The siege mentality came to fore because the media hated him. A manager cannot just whip out a siege mentality without hatred. How are you a football fan and you don’t know the meaning of siege mentality?


Android17:

lol asinine deflection. Winning games does not constitute to being entertaining. You can see the attached. Read Mourinho himself describe his team and look for another lie to tell. You are in trouble. The more you lie, the more evidence I will provide. lol

Look at this idiot! A manager got 95 points winning 29 games and conceding only 15 over a season and you say he’s boring? Boring to whom? Jose was clearly repeating what was said about him - he never agreed he was boring.

The ultra attacking Spanish team that won in 2008,2010,2012 were called boring. Who gives a shit about what the media say? Only idiöts like yourself with 2 lean brain cells would use this as a crutch in your argument.

Get the fück out of my sight - with your idiotic stance!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 12:30am On Apr 30, 2021
grin

Iphone17 vs Gló Unlimited........ e choke.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 12:50am On Apr 30, 2021
Illimitable:


You are an idiöt! I have been on this forum for about 3 months and you could be the biggest idiot I have ever encountered.

Anyone that opines beating Man Utd over 2 legs in a semifinal and beating Liverpool in the final is no big deal is an idiot. Liverpool went on to win the CL by the way - by beating the same Mourinho over two legs in CL semis.

Same deflections. I mentioned the finals as I don't have time for your diversions. Everyone can see how you are trying to mention irrelevant details to muddy the waters. lol. Chelsea of 2004-05 beating Liverpool of 2004-05 was not a big deal. Chelsea were by far superior. Funny how you throw around Chelsea's 95 points when it is convenient and pretend that Liverpool did not have 58 points that same season.

You are still repeating this idiocy that Mourinho wasn’t an underdog when he clearly stated in the video that I posted it was difficult mentally for his players because they hadn’t won a spoon in 5 years. He was clearly the underdog in 2005. No one gave him a chance.

You are calling me a slowpoke but your posts are showing who the slowpoke is. "No one gave him a chance" yet I have provided 4 different experts/media opinions showing that there were huge expectations concerning that team and their manager. A team that finished 2nd in the league and SF of the UCL are underdogs to Liverpool? grin

He was loved by the media because of his first press conference. They hadn’t seen such an arrogant prïck in their lives but that was in June. Football didn’t start until August, you are pathetic.

The love quickly turned sour when he started shitting on the media from day one and there were loads of scandals that followed him throughout that season that made him public enemy number one. By the time carling cup semis came in January, no one wanted Mourinho in the media.

Provide evidence for this. grin grin Let others laugh at you.

You are a pathological liar! He was actually shushing the media. If he shushed the fans, he would say he did and apologized. Mourinho did far more serious offence than lying about what he did.

He said he shushed the media for writing negative articles about him - which you also alluded to that his team was being referred to as boring boring Chelsea. Are you going to walk back your own comments less than 24 hours?

The difference between me and you is I am providing evidence. I even told you what he said and what the video CLEARLY shows. When I ask you for your proof you will tell me you were part of the inner caucus meetings. lol. Look at you, trying to mix-up the criticism that faced his team from August 2004 till he left in 2007 to the incident that happened just after beating Liverpool 3-2 in the Carling cup final Feb 2005. You are not clever.

Look at this idiot! A manager got 95 points winning 29 games and conceding only 15 over a season and you say he’s boring? Boring to whom? Jose was clearly repeating what was said about him - he never agreed he was boring.

The ultra attacking Spanish team that won in 2008,2010,2012 were called boring. Who gives a shit about what the media say? Only idiöts like yourself with 2 lean brain cells would use this as a crutch in your argument.

Another weak deflection. You now want to bring Spanish team. You and who are discussing the spanish team? grin you even wanted to claim that Jose did not agree he was boring. Okay, see Mourinho in 2014/15 being accused of same. Is he agreeing or disagreeing? lol. Lie again. I am on standby.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 1:07am On Apr 30, 2021
Illimitable:


This fool keeps conspiring with his village spirits to walk himself into a pit filled with vipers. For him to use a siege mentality, there must be evidence of media hatred, he must have been a victim of something. Someone universally loved by the media like you claimed cannot use siege mentality unless you don’t know the meaning of what you typed.

The siege mentality came to fore because the media hated him. A manager cannot just whip out a siege mentality without hatred. How are you a football fan and you don’t know the meaning of siege mentality?


You can only call names because your arguments are conjectural and lacking in substance. You don't need to be a victim to have a siege mentality. You can be paranoid enough to have one or you can make it up to use as a motivational tool. You picked the wrong person to lie to. The more names you call me, the more I will use hardcore evidence to disgrace you on this thread.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nani667: 1:07am On Apr 30, 2021
#OleOUT

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:12am On Apr 30, 2021
Android17:


You can only call names because your arguments are conjectural and lacking in substance. You don't need to be a victim to have a siege mentality. You can be paranoid enough to have one or you can make it up to use as a motivational tool. You picked the wrong person to lie to. The more names you call me, the more I will use hardcore evidence to disgrace you on this thread.

One has to be a victim to have siege mentality.

A man universally loved like you claim don’t need a siege mentality. This is why it will not work for media darlings like Ole or Lampard at his last job.

This was the Mourinho you claimed was expected to run through the PL and deliver the title in January.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 1:14am On Apr 30, 2021
handelex:
Solskjær:
"We know we have got creative players who can create big moments. Paul Pogba's position today was very good in that position, he's allowed some freedom. He's got the foundation behind him. The difference today is we took most of our chances." #mulive [bt]

"He's got the foundation behind him"

Wonder whom/what Ole was referring there cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:23am On Apr 30, 2021
Android17:

Same deflections. I mentioned the finals as I don't have time for your diversions. Everyone can see how you are trying to mention irrelevant details to muddy the waters. lol. Chelsea of 2004-05 beating Liverpool of 2004-05 was not a big deal. Chelsea were by far superior. Funny how you throw around Chelsea's 95 points when it is convenient and pretend that Liverpool did not have 58 points that same season.


Look at this fool!

You didn’t mention the finals. You said Mourinho was expected to win every competition Chelsea entered that season. When I mentioned Mourinho dogwalked Ferguson before the final, your reply was that he was better than Ferguson that year.

You are a disgrace.


Android17:

You are calling me a slowpoke but your posts are showing who the slowpoke is. "No one gave him a chance" yet I have provided 4 different experts/media opinions showing that there were huge expectations concerning that team and their manager. A team that finished 2nd in the league and SF of the UCL are underdogs to Liverpool? grin

Mourinho was expected to have difficulty in adapting to the PL and Chelsea were underdogs. No one considered Chelsea an elite in Europe and that was why Mourinho chose them over Liverpool. Chelsea were his type of an underdog team. Chelsea hadn’t won the league and they hadn’t won the champions league.


Android17:


Provide evidence for this. grin grin Let others laugh at you.

I cannot continue to provide evidence that you are a möron. You are making a good case and the others are laughing at you already.


Android17:


The difference between me and you is I am providing evidence. I even told you what he said and what the video CLEARLY shows. When I ask you for your proof you will tell me you were part of the inner caucus meetings. lol. Look at you, trying to mix-up the criticism that faced his team from August 2004 till he left in 2007 to the incident that happened just after beating Liverpool 3-2 in the Carling cup final Feb 2005. You are not clever.

This fool is actually thinking he’s providing evidence. How? Stop lying to yourself? If there were huge expectations for Mourinho to succeed, why was Arsenal the favorite to win the PL? How come Barcelona were the favorites to win CL?

Huge expectations and evidence?

Android17:


Another weak deflection. You now want to bring Spanish team. You and who are discussing the spanish team? grin you even wanted to claim that Jose did not agree he was boring. Okay, see Mourinho in 2014/15 being accused of same. Is he agreeing or disagreeing? lol. Lie again. I am on standby.

You are a fool!

Spanish team was called boring for passing the ball too much. So the boring tag were solely for winners. Mourinho didn’t care about the boring tag cos he knows it’s not true - it was coming from a place of hate.

You need more people to convince anyone Mourinho was expected to walk the league in the manner by which he did it. He was given no chance at all. No one really believed he was capable of breaking the Wenger-Fergie duopoly.

Your revisionism is disgusting.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 1:24am On Apr 30, 2021
Lana1:

Then why do these errors keep happening angry angry

You have a tipper as CB grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 1:25am On Apr 30, 2021
Omo....who be all these guys? lipsrsealed

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 1:27am On Apr 30, 2021
KingAlabi:
prophet!!

Where you hide since?


Oloye, shalom cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:32am On Apr 30, 2021
elrony:
Omo....who be all these guys? lipsrsealed

I warned these lizards but they won’t listen.

I told them evil has arrived on this thread. All the known agenda, useless narratives and idiotic beliefs shall be extinguished by the time I am done with them.

The first task is to destroy all the anti-Mourinho narrative and I am almost there.

Today na today, we die here.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:42am On Apr 30, 2021
Android17:


You can only call names because your arguments are conjectural and lacking in substance. You don't need to be a victim to have a siege mentality. You can be paranoid enough to have one or you can make it up to use as a motivational tool. You picked the wrong person to lie to. The more names you call me, the more I will use hardcore evidence to disgrace you on this thread.

Mourinho saying the game starting from the press conference isn’t tantamount to a siege mentality. You are a stark illiterate. cheesy

Siege mentality is a shared feeling of victimization and defensiveness—a term derived from the actual experience of military defences of real sieges. It is a collective state of mind in which a group of people believe themselves constantly attacked, oppressed, or isolated in the face of the negative intentions of the rest of the world.

This fool continues to disgrace his lineage because he wants to win an argument. Playing mind games has turned to siege mentality? The maggot even said victimization has no bearing to siege mentality. cheesy

How did you manage to ace your exams in primary school? cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 1:57am On Apr 30, 2021
Illimitable:


Look at this fool!

You didn’t mention the finals. You said Mourinho was expected to win every competition Chelsea entered that season. When I mentioned Mourinho dogwalked Ferguson before the final, your reply was that he was better than Ferguson that year.

You are a disgrace.

This was your post:
Illimitable:


Who would sack their manager 6 days before a cup final because of results?? A competition he’s never lost in the final.

Jose has won Carling Cup 4 times with 100% record in the final.

2005
2007
2015
2017

If there’s any manager that can beat Pep in a final, it’s Jose. Copa del Rey in Spain is a stark reminder of that.

He was sacked because of the ESL issue. Where did Levy suddenly find the £35m severance package to pay Jose? cheesy

To which I replied:
Android17:


What team would have beaten him in the years described? You know the severance package is amortized right? He does not get the money in one tranche. He will be paid for the next few years. Sacking him before the Carabao cup was the acceptance by Levy that it would have not mattered if he won it and that they did not believe he could win it.

Now the one with great memory tried to lie that I said Chelsea should have won every competition they played in. You will regret ever replying me. Just wait.

Mourinho was expected to have difficulty in adapting to the PL and Chelsea were underdogs. No one considered Chelsea an elite in Europe and that was why Mourinho chose them over Liverpool. Chelsea were his type of an underdog team. Chelsea hadn’t won the league and they hadn’t won the champions league.

From the inner caucus meetings right? lol

I cannot continue to provide evidence that you are a möron. You are making a good case and the others are laughing at you already.

Like Chelsea face a daunting task in their first game of the 2004-05 season against Man U is tantamount to them being underdogs? grin grin

This fool is actually thinking he’s providing evidence. How? Stop lying to yourself? If there were huge expectations for Mourinho to succeed, why was Arsenal the favorite to win the PL? How come Barcelona were the favorites to win CL?

Which of the 4 media houses I provided considered Arsenal the favorites and why are you mentioning the UCL to me? Stop this narrative-changing exercise. It is futile. lol

Spanish team was called boring for passing the ball too much. So the boring tag were solely for winners. Mourinho didn’t care about the boring tag cos he knows it’s not true - it was coming from a place of hate.

What does this have to do with me? grin Who is discussing the spanish national team?

you need more people to convince anyone Mourinho was expected to walk the league in the manner by which he did it

You are trying to be clever by half. Nobody talked about walking any league. Stop looking for a hiding place. You will find none.

He was given no chance at all. No one really believed he was capable of breaking the Wenger-Fergie duopoly
.
Yet I have mentioned not 1, not 2, not 3..yet someone is insisting that Mourinho was given no chance at all. lol I am sure you are wondering how you got yourself in this mess.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 2:03am On Apr 30, 2021
grin grin cheesy grin grin

E don be for this thread. Una don enter one chance!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 2:10am On Apr 30, 2021
Illimitable:


Mourinho saying the game starting from the press conference isn’t tantamount to a siege mentality. You are a stark illiterate. cheesy

This fool continues to disgrace his lineage because he wants to win an argument. Playing mind games has turned to siege mentality?

So if I do not underline the key phrases, you will not know what I am referring to as siege mentality? lol I have made some attachments. I told you he don't need to be a victim, the manager can manipulate you into thinking you are one. lol You don't know the difference and you are always talking about IQ. lol

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 2:19am On Apr 30, 2021
Illimitable:


This was the Mourinho you claimed was expected to run through the PL and deliver the title in January.

Provide where I said this? grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:24am On Apr 30, 2021
Android17:

This was your post:

To which I replied:

Now the one with great memory tried to lie that I said Chelsea should have won every competition they played in. You will regret ever replying me. just wait.

Is this a sign you are going weary? A man without limits will regret ever replying you? You are a fool!

You asked who would have beaten him in carling cup competitions in 2005, 2007, 2015 and 2017? If you have any brain cells, nowhere did you specifically mention the final and teams play in the other rounds before the final. Chelsea didn’t just qualify for the final - they had to play several teams to be there.

Your stupid question might have intended to mean the final but because of your lack of vocabulary skills, it actually meant no team could have beaten Chelsea in all the games they played in that competition in 4 different seasons. That was why I brought up the semis against United.

Will you now accept you are a fool once and for all and a language British missionary took to your country and taught you from cradle to adulthood has been a waste of their time? You lack the intelligence power to engage anyone with an IQ higher than 20 in any debate.


Android17:


Like Chelsea face a daunting task in their first game of the 2004-05 season against Man U is tantamount to them being underdogs? grin grin

Chelsea with huge expectations faced a daunting task at home? The same Chelsea you said were partial favorites faced a daunting task to beat Man Utd at Stamford Bridge? It should be United facing a daunting task to play Chelsea seeing that they were away and they lost the corresponding fixture the previous season.



Low IQ alert - this tells me you don’t know the meaning of daunting. grin

Please google it.


Android17:


Which of the 4 media houses I provided considered Arsenal the favorites and why are you mentioning the UCL to me? Stop this narrative-changing exercise. It is futile. lol

Look at this idiot - you went from huge expectations from Mourinho to deliver on all fronts to running away from CL narrative? So what was this huge expectation if I may ask? What was the minimum requirement?

Stupid boy!


Android17:


What does this have to do with me? grin Who is discussing the spanish national team?

It has everything to do with you. Boring boring Chelsea, remember? I cited another example where a winning team was called boring.

I just love making you look stupid.


Android17:


You are trying to be clever by half. Nobody talked about walking any league. Stop looking for a hiding place. You will find none.

It is too late to walk back your comments. You said there were huge expectations. You even lied Chelsea were the favorites. If the expectation is huge to deliver as the top favorites, why is walking the league an impossibility?

Are you a morön? cheesy

Android17:


lol I am sure you are wondering how you got yourself in this mess.

Stop giving yourself these stupid assurances. You don’t need to be second guessing what I am wondering about. It’s a weakness.

You call this a mess? cheesy This fool will literally remove all his ribs to suck his own dïck. You could add the energy and the intelligence of every congregation in your church or mosque, it still won’t be enough.

This isn’t a mess. This is my natural habitat and this is why I am dog-walking you.


Android17:


Yet I have mentioned not 1, not 2, not 3..yet someone is insisting that Mourinho was given no chance at all.

Android17:

Nobody talked about walking any league.

I keep insisting you are a morön. These were your utterances in the last 24 hours.

Chelsea had huge expectations to win in 04/05.
Nobody talked about walking the league
Chelsea were the title favorites in 04/05
Chelsea had no problems winning CC in 2005.

If I didn’t know better, I would think you are normal but these are the signs of you being a bipolar. Nearly everything you write in one comment contradicts the previous one. grin

If Chelsea were the title favorites in 04/05 like you claim, why wouldn’t they walk the league? If you also claim the hopes weren’t as high as walking the league, why would you insinuate they were supposed to win CC in 2005 against Liverpool(final) and United(semis)?

You are stupid and I have a zero tolerance policy for stupidity. cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Sniper4real(m): 2:27am On Apr 30, 2021
This page long like this and na 2 pple dominated it. Our thread fit catch up with Chelsea thread with guys sha

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:28am On Apr 30, 2021
Android17:


So if I do not underline the key phrases, you will not know what I am referring to as siege mentality? lol I have made some attachments. I told you he don't need to be a victim, the manager can manipulate you into thinking you are one. lol You don't know the difference and you are always talking about IQ. lol

How can the manager manipulate media darlings to whip up a siege mentality.

You are not intelligent.

If Mourinho was universally loved by the media, siege mentality would never have worked. Jose was hated by the media like you opposed and this was why it was easy for him to whip the us vs them mentality.

Another evidence of your bi-polarism. grin cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 2:29am On Apr 30, 2021
elampiro:


But we beat Manchester City

Leeds United and Leicester city also beat Manchester City. Manchester city beat us enroute to a trophy too.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:30am On Apr 30, 2021
Sniper4real:
This page long like this and na 2 pple dominated it. Our thread fit catch up with Chelsea thread with guys sha

Instead of you to be happy reading free content. wink

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:41am On Apr 30, 2021
Android17:

Provide where I said this? grin

This is tragic!

Android17:

Chelsea were 2nd before Mourinho. He came in, got better players to add to that team and there was only one direction they were to go. Chelsea beat that same Liverpool team in the league home and away. Mourinho still believes he lost that UCL tie based on a ghost goal but you want to paint them to be this indomitable team. O wrong nau! Chelsea were better than United by far in both 2004/05-2005/06. They were supposed to beat United in those years. And Mourinho was SUPPOSED to succeed in England. Where did "I am the special one" come from? You keep talking about revisionism but that is all you have been doing - revising history. Please nobody talked Porto or Inter so stop changing the narrative.

Without any iota of doubt, you are certainly a special child. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 2:53am On Apr 30, 2021
Oasis007:


grin

Especially with Ole on the wheel. Even e no learn anything from SAF, counterattack..... he sabi am.die.

Keeping a high line against Cavani, Bruno, Pogba, Rashford and Greenwood is suicide
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 3:33am On Apr 30, 2021
Illimitable:

You asked who would have beaten him in carling cup finals in 2005, 2007, 2015 and 2017? If you have any brain cells, nowhere did you specifically mention the final and teams play in the other rounds before the final? Chelsea didn’t just qualify for the final - they had to play several teams to be there.

Your stupid question might have intended to mean the final but because of your lack of vocabulary skills, it actually meant no team could have beaten Chelsea in all the games they played in that competition in 4 different seasons. That was why I brought up the semis against United?

You are deceiving yourself. You queried why he was fired a week before the finals and pointed to his finals records in the Carling Cup as proof that he could have won against City in 2021. I asked you which of the teams in those years you mentioned should have beat him. You knew what it meant and started with Liverpool. After I debunked all the lies you wanted to tell about Liverpool you switched to United. lol. This particular lie is played out so try another. grin

Chelsea with huge expectations faced a daunting task at home? The same Chelsea you said were partial favorites faced a daunting task to beat Man Utd at Stamford Bridge? It should be United facing a daunting task to play Chelsea seeing that they were away and they lost the corresponding fixture the previous season.

See who is calling me names? grin I attached where the same article called the Chelsea Newcastle fixture at the end of the season difficult. lol. Mourinho had a history with both SAF and Sir Bobby Robson. That is why that adjective was used. lol
https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/chelsea-face-man-united-in-season-opener

you went from huge expectations from Mourinho to deliver on all fronts to running away from CL narrative? So what was this huge expectation if I may ask? What was the minimum requirement?

Where did anyone mention "deliver on all fronts"? lol. See this liar. You are in for it.

It has everything to do with you. Boring boring Chelsea, remember? I cited another example where a winning team was called boring
You are not clever. You are making my argument for me. I said his chelsea was called boring and you tried to counter it by telling me he won 29 games. I responded by telling you that winning is not tantamount to being entertaining. lol. So thank you.

It is too late to walk back your comments. You said there were huge expectations. You even lied Chelsea were the favorites. If the expectation is huge to deliver as the top favorites, why is walking the league an impossibility?

That you are one of the top 2 favorites is not tantamount to walking the league. Chelsea were one of the top 2 favourites in 2009/10 but they did not walk the league. Nobody mentioned walking the league. Your deflections are useless. grin

If Chelsea were the title favorites in 04/05 like you claim, why wouldn’t they walk the league? If you also claim the hopes weren’t as high as walking the league, why would you insinuate they were supposed to win CC in 2005 against Liverpool(final) and United(semis)?

Every favourite must walk the league to prove that they were favourites? And you are calling me names? grin grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 3:38am On Apr 30, 2021
Illimitable:


How can the manager manipulate media darlings to whip up a siege mentality.

If Mourinho was universally loved by the media, siege mentality would never have worked. Jose was hated by the media like you opposed and this was why it was easy for him to whip the us vs them mentality.

Another evidence of your bi-polarism. grin cheesy

A manager can manipulate his TEAM into a siege mentality by accusing the referees of not treating his players favorably. For e.g he accused the referees of being too light on SAF. That way, his players play with that mentality and try to win to prove they won regardless of opposition by the referees. You are calling me names? lol

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 3:42am On Apr 30, 2021
I asked an intelligent person to prove where I said this.
Illimitable:


This was the Mourinho you claimed was expected to run through the PL and deliver the title in January.

He posted this:

Android17:


Chelsea were 2nd before Mourinho. He came in, got better players to add to that team and there was only one direction they were to go. Chelsea beat that same Liverpool team in the league home and away. Mourinho still believes he lost that UCL tie based on a ghost goal but you want to paint them to be this indomitable team. O wrong nau! Chelsea were better than United by far in both 2004/05-2005/06. They were supposed to beat United in those years. And Mourinho was SUPPOSED to succeed in England. Where did "I am the special one" come from? You keep talking about revisionism but that is all you have been doing - revising history. Please nobody talked Porto or Inter so stop changing the narrative.

Mourinho was supposed to succeed in England according to high IQ people means that he should run through the PL and deliver the title by January?. grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by obainojazz(m): 4:03am On Apr 30, 2021
That’s surely coogar

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:05am On Apr 30, 2021
Android17:

You are deceiving yourself. You queried why he was fired a week before the finals and pointed to his finals records in the Carling Cup as proof that he could have won against City in 2021. I asked you which of the teams in those years you mentioned should have beat him. You knew what it meant and started with Liverpool. After I debunked all the lies you wanted to tell about Liverpool you switched to United. lol. This particular lie is played out so try another. grin

I knew what it meant? grin

Next time, write intelligibly instead of forcing people to guess what you meant. Finals are the icing on the cake. There are many hoops to jump to get into a final. Saying Mourinho was expected to win that final is false.

Stop lying.


Android17:

See who is calling me names? grin I attached where the same article called the Chelsea Newcastle fixture at the end of the season difficult. lol. Mourinho had a history with both SAF and Sir Bobby Robson. That is why that adjective was used. lol
https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/chelsea-face-man-united-in-season-opener


Look at this fool creating his own narrative. The end of the season fixture was tough simply because it’s an away game. It’s totally different from playing a home game, the first game of the season. Like you said, this was a side expected to succeed in 04/05. They won the same fixture the previous season, why should that be daunting?


Android17:

Where did anyone mention "deliver on all fronts"? lol. See this liar. You are in for it.

“Mourinho is supposed to succeed in England” grin

Android17:

You are not clever. You are making my argument for me. I said his chelsea was called boring and you tried to counter it by telling me he won 29 games. I responded by telling you that winning is not tantamount to being entertaining. lol. So thank you.

This special child just can’t get the syllogism.

I didn’t make the point for you, I was destroying your point that said he was boring. I cited Spain, a side everyone agreed played the best attacking football in Europe, as being boring.

Same as Mourinho - played the best attacking football that season and his haters said he was boring because they couldn’t beat him. I am exposing your hypocrisy that it’s impossible for a boring side to notch 95 points.

Android17:


That you are one of the top 2 favorites is not tantamount to walking the league. Chelsea were one of the top 2 favourites in 2009/10 but they did not walk the league. Nobody mentioned walking the league. Your deflections are useless. grin

You are a disgrace to formal education. What is the meaning of top 2 favorites? How is a side with huge expectations become top 2? What happened to the adjective ‘hottest’ favorite? A side that is supposed to succeed in England shouldn’t be 2nd favorites.

You have shot yourself in the foot! cheesy



Every favourite must walk the league to prove that they were favourites? And you are calling me names? grin grin grin

100%

You must walk the league to prove why you are hot favorites. Bayern are favorites every year, same as PSG, etc.

If you aren’t aware, that is the position you have placed Mourinho in 2004/5 in this discourse. A procession to the title with no obstacles at all. Remember you said he was supposed to succeed.

And I was calling you names? Is it possible that you are getting irritated about the name calling? If you aren’t a morön, why are you letting it get to you? cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:08am On Apr 30, 2021
Android17:


A manager can manipulate his TEAM into a siege mentality by accusing the referees of not treating his players favorably. For e.g he accused the referees of being too light on SAF. That way, his players play with that mentality and try to win to prove they won regardless of opposition by the referees. You are calling me names? lol

Manager has become a conjurer to hypnotize his players and create a siege mentality. Media darlings would leave their status and join moaners about referees or the FA?

You have the intelligence of a dead battery. How does this make sense to you if you have any brain cells in your head?

You are certainly a special child.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:15am On Apr 30, 2021
Android17:

Mourinho was supposed to succeed in England according to high IQ people means that he should run through the PL and deliver the title by January?. grin grin

Idiocy isn’t tolerated by me.

You said he was supposed to succeed in England as there were huge expectations for him to win.

He’s a brilliant manager
He inherited a brilliant team
He bought brilliant players.

What could be wrong? Except for the small matter that he wasn’t even the favorite that year. cheesy grin

If you don’t get the fück out of my sight with your room temperature IQ.

This weapon is actually equating an away game at Newcastle(300 miles away from home) at the end of the season to the first game of the season at home against United.

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