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Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by finnacle2020: 5:49pm On May 03, 2021
Why did they remove it from front page
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by dederocs(m): 5:49pm On May 03, 2021
He has a point, most of these terrorists and bandits are from Niger republic, chad, Mali, and the others are sudanese and fulanis, we are being invaded, it is an existential threat. East, west, south, north...let us unite and protect the territorial integrity of this geographical space we call home, they want to change our ways of life, but they will be destroyed, cos world war 2, was a war between freedom and extremism/dictatorship, and freedom won.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by obehi231(m): 5:50pm On May 03, 2021
The is one of the best solutions, the earlier the better at least we still have proactive statesman unlike others who just sit, unconcerned watchin the nation almost being consumed by poor leadership By now it would be clear to the president the state of the nation and has lost confidence in the cabal
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by Eriokanmi: 5:50pm On May 03, 2021
baseb:
And the military man or woman in charge would be from what state or zone?
Believe me that would add to the problem. Has anyone ever asked who created this mess we are currently in?
The state of the country has made some of us to start thinking 'extraterrestially'
It won't. We should stop being agitated or worried on something that's neither here nor there. My uncle from yorubaland was one of the military administrators during abacha regime in one of the south-south states. Could you believe most of the infrastructure he had in place during his tenure haven't been surpassed by any governor since the return of democracy in 1999? The circle of governors and politicians we have today are thieves. They can't lead us anywhere.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by Ayomivic(m): 5:50pm On May 03, 2021
Xiaomi1:
He's right.
handing over to military you said, if he hands over to Military Who is supporter of terrorist that means we are finish.

This is Nigeria. if he doesn't know what to do let him handover to another person who is not military but trusted, educated and brave and courageous nigerian who really respect humanity.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by angelfallz(m): 5:51pm On May 03, 2021
executive12:
Nonsense. It's actually the military that got us into this mess.
What needs to be done is to form an interim national government (not to include the military). Then have the interim government organize a sovereign national conference to restructure Nigeria or organize an orderly separation.
What you suggested makes sense. But isn't it the same politicians that have refused to restructure Nigeria that would be in the interim government that is if they even allow for an interim government.

The military fostered on Nigeria this current system of governance, the same military can undo what was done in 1967.
So I support the man.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by ZooOga: 5:51pm On May 03, 2021
After a certain age some elders, former politicians, and laureates should cease from making public statements and go and enjoy their retirement years.

Oga below him try. grin

Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by faste: 5:51pm On May 03, 2021
angelfallz:
I believe a military take over is the best. I've been saying we need to restructure, but it's obvious the politicians aren't interested in it.
The military can takeover, and begin the process of restructuring. Whether we restructure into 6 States or regions or geopolitical zones is irrelevant. The fact is our current system of government can't take us to the promised land.

By restructuring, we remove power from the FG, and place it in the hands of the federating units(6 States, geopolitical zones or regions)

It's the best form of government that would suit our heterogeneous nature. The igbos would rule themselves, the Yorubas would rule themselves the Hausas the same thing, the ibibios the same thing, Ebira the same thing etc.
And you think the military will restructure the country?You forgot that the military destroyed regional goverment because of break up threat of biafra.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by Eriokanmi: 5:53pm On May 03, 2021
faste:
You think the miliary does not like power too?You have forgotten it took so much international presure before they were pushed out.
Sorry to ask you this? How old were you during abacha days? That was the time Nigeria had it best economically. Military could have their excesses but they're far better than all these thieves who call themselves politicians or leaders. It's still civilians who would be in charge of administrative works. Anyone found stealing already knows what's going to be his end point . See how cocain is being discovered on luggage daily in our airports? It has become a daily occurrence. Nigeria will collapse soon, except this option is embraced. The measure would be temporary. Let's see if there won't be decorum provided buhari won't embrace nepotism in putting military officers in place to take charge in the meantime
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by Nobody: 6:00pm On May 03, 2021
BigBashiru:
I'm has 4 main tribes: English, Irish, Welsh and Scottish and other tribes like druids and celt yet they don't call themselves tribes- tribe is a title for primitive people..... stop calling your selves tribes. English ppl never call themself tribe but they gave you the title and you accepted
Tribe is an English word and their is nothing primitive about it.

The irish, welsh and Scottish all have their own nation with their own government, if they didn't have that they will be classified as tribes under the english system.

In England, race have been substituted in the place of tribe because of different nationalities living in the country.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by BigBashiru: 6:06pm On May 03, 2021
SmartProf:
How? Is it the military that is in charge in first world countries? Are those in the Nigerian military not first and foremost humans who could be tribal and religious bigots. It's like you don't know that the top men in our military are those whose brothers are causing the biggest security issues the country is wailing about.
You are not a third world country. You are not a tribe.... there's not much difference between Nigeria and Poland. Stop calling urself wat the British want you to call yourself.... you are a country.... neither first world nor third world....

Stop calling yourself whatever they call you.

Britain is a 3rd world country - they just created Ministry of Loneliness because their ppl can't even say hello to each other or smile at each other - something as basic as that they can't do - so how are they "first world"? By stealing from other countries for 100 years??
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by BigBashiru: 6:07pm On May 03, 2021
thebosstrevor1:
Tribe is an English word and their is nothing primitive about it.

The irish, welsh and Scottish all have their own nation with their own government, if they didn't have that they will be classified as tribes under the english system.

In England, race have been substituted in the place of tribe because of different nationalities living in the country.
No UK is one country. United Kingdom of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Okay then keep calling yourself tribe. Primitive tribesman in your mudhut. Lol
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by executive12: 6:07pm On May 03, 2021
angelfallz:
I believe a military take over is the best. I've been saying we need to restructure, but it's obvious the politicians aren't interested in it.
The military can takeover, and begin the process of restructuring. Whether we restructure into 6 States or regions or geopolitical zones is irrelevant. The fact is our current system of government can't take us to the promised land.

By restructuring, we remove power from the FG, and place it in the hands of the federating units(6 States, geopolitical zones or regions)

It's the best form of government that would suit our heterogeneous nature. The igbos would rule themselves, the Yorubas would rule themselves the Hausas the same thing, the ibibios the same thing, Ebira the same thing etc.
A Northern officer will obviously not allow restructuring.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by codemaniacs: 6:07pm On May 03, 2021
Eriokanmi:
Sorry to ask you this? How old were you during abacha days? That was the time Nigeria had it best economically. Military could have their excesses but they're far better than all these thieves who call themselves politicians or leaders. It's still civilians who would be in charge of administrative works. Anyone found stealing already knows what's going to be his end point . See how cocain is being discovered on luggage daily in our airports? It has become a daily occurrence. Nigeria will collapse soon, except this option is embraced. The measure would be temporary. Let's see if there won't be decorum provided buhari won't embrace nepotism in putting military officers in place to take charge in the meantime
"best economically" you must be joking...

oppression, bad roads and under-development everywhere during abacha's time...
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by Nobody: 6:12pm On May 03, 2021
This old man must be suffering from severe mental problem. He's thinking analogically.

I have a suggestion:

Let Mr. President involve the youths actively in the political administration of the country.

This is because 70% of the Nigerian population is made up by the youths. So whatever problem that this country is faced with affects the youths the more, including terrorism and even economic wise.

The youths are in best position to solve the problems that affect them. Boko Haram terrorists, IPOB terrorists/miscreants, majority of self-determination agitators, Niger Delta militants, yahoo yahoo boys, smugglers, and generally the unemployed are mostly youths.

Thus, applying the principle of utilitarianism, which states that the greatest happiness should be maximized for the greatest number of people, let the youths take over while the elders continue to give valuable advise and watch their excesses.

If we can successfully solve the problems that affect the majority, we can have true victory in the end.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by faste: 6:14pm On May 03, 2021
Eriokanmi:
Sorry to ask you this? How old were you during abacha days? That was the time Nigeria had it best economically. Military could have their excesses but they're far better than all these thieves who call themselves politicians or leaders. It's still civilians who would be in charge of administrative works. Anyone found stealing already knows what's going to be his end point . See how cocain is being discovered on luggage daily in our airports? It has become a daily occurrence. Nigeria will collapse soon, except this option is embraced. The measure would be temporary. Let's see if there won't be decorum provided buhari won't embrace nepotism in putting military officers in place to take charge in the meantime
This generation of the military cannot do the task.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by Eriokanmi: 6:14pm On May 03, 2021
codemaniacs:
"best economically" you must be joking...

oppression, bad roads and under-development everywhere during abacha's time...
enough said. Go back to the past, you'd concur.

Those being chased by abacha were enemies of state, political thieves...tinubu, abiola, etc were thieves who stole from the government to enrich themselves. Military might have their excesses but they're far better than the wolves we have in politics today, most of whom are round pegs in square holes. The short time fix proposed would reduce insecurity and economic woes in Nigeria greatly provided the right people are appointed amongst them. Buratai was a bad choice among the military officers. There were much better and refined officers but politics was involved in the appointment. If they could get this right, it's the panacea to our problems.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by Eriokanmi: 6:15pm On May 03, 2021
faste:
This generation of the military cannot do the task.
That's the problem my brother. But if the buhari administration can look deeply inwards,there are still good ones.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by codemaniacs: 6:17pm On May 03, 2021
Eriokanmi:
enough said. Go back to the past, you'd concur.

Those being chased by abacha were enemies of state, political thieves...tinubu, abiola, etc were thieves who stole from the government to enrich themselves. Military might have their excesses but they're far better than the wolves we have in politics today, most of whom are round pegs in square holes. The short time fix proposed would reduce insecurity and economic woes in Nigeria greatly provided the right people are appointed amongst them. Buratai was a bad choice among the military officers. There were much better and refined officers but politics was involved in the appointment. If they could get this right, it's the panacea to our problems.
so you've forgotten about a:bacha's loot, if you call ti:nubu, a:biola "political thieves, enemies of state" then a:bacha was worse than them..
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by executive12: 6:21pm On May 03, 2021
Skillsnigeria:
The military taking over will not solve anything.i think,they should divide Nigeria into two.northern and southern Nigeria or divide it into arewa,oduduwa and biafra republic.i don't want to add niger Delta republic because almost half of niger Delta is igboland.they will eventually secede them to Biafra and oduduwa republic
How about Middlebelt? I don't think they will accept to be lumped with Area, under Fulani domination.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by Nobody: 6:24pm On May 03, 2021
BigBashiru:
No UK is one country. United Kingdom of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Okay then keep calling yourself tribe. Primitive tribesman in your mudhut. Lol
The Uk is one but England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have their own regional government.

United kingdom consists of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, so their is nothing like United kingdom of England.

As for tribes, there is nothing primitive about tribe
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by Skillsnigeria: 6:28pm On May 03, 2021
executive12:
How about Middlebelt? I don't think they will accept to be lumped with Area, under Fulani domination.
The middlebelt especially the christians can never be in the same country with the Fulani, they are even better with southern Nigeria, having their own country will be the best
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by blaqoracle: 6:31pm On May 03, 2021
Xiaomi1:
He's right.
this moribound brain does not know that Buhari is the commander in chief.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by BigBashiru: 6:32pm On May 03, 2021
thebosstrevor1:
The Uk is one but England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have their own regional government.

United kingdom consists of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, so their is nothing like United kingdom of England.

As for tribes, there is nothing primitive about tribe
within uk, apart from their 4 main tribes, there are other tribes like druids and celts.... its up to you.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by Eriokanmi: 6:34pm On May 03, 2021
codemaniacs:
so you've forgotten about a:bacha's loot, if you call ti:nubu, a:biola "political thieves, enemies of state" then a:bacha was worse than them..
I know. These people are worse i maintain. Do you know how much a brand new private jet costs, tinubu alone has 3, a former senator and state governor oo. How much is the hyped abacha loots put together, compared to the cost of 3 private jets? Think about it. Governor fayemi has one of the best private universities in Ghana. Ekiti state is second to the last on the list of states in Nigeria with the lowest IGR.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by Nobody: 6:37pm On May 03, 2021
BigBashiru:
within uk, apart from their 4 main tribes, there are other tribes like druids and celts.... its up to you.
Druids are priest, magician, or soothsayer in the ancient Celtic religion.

Celts do not exist no more.
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by BigBashiru: 6:47pm On May 03, 2021
thebosstrevor1:
Druids are priest, magician, or soothsayer in the ancient Celtic religion.

Celts do not exist no more.
no druids were known for sorcery but its a tribe.
celts is a tribe.
what will make them not exist anymore.
even in canada innuits and aborigine peoples still exist....
anyways im done. like i said its up to you what you believe.
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Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by slivertongue: 6:50pm On May 03, 2021
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Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by Nobody: 6:50pm On May 03, 2021
BigBashiru:
no druids were known for sorcery but its a tribe.
celts is a tribe.
what will make them not exist anymore.
even in canada innuits and aborigine peoples still exist....
anyways im done. like i said its up to you what you believe.
Druids isn't a tribe, that are the religious groups of celts. They are celts themselves.

Aborigines is not a tribe but a word used to define the orginal people of the land.

Inuits, red Indians, native Americans are all aborigines
Re: Robert Clarke: Allow Military Take Over, Divide Nigeria Into 6 States by angelfallz(m): 7:02pm On May 03, 2021
A military takeover with the intention of restructuring Nigeria.
faste:
And you think the military will restructure the country?You forgot that the military destroyed regional goverment because of break up threat of biafra.
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