₦airaland Forum

MoIbrahim:
You can insult me, I don't have he time to fight over politicians.

This comment is a tag, and we'll return to this your post later-later to see how the governors' meeting brought about restructuring without the involvement of the NASS.

The NASS is a product of the political structure which the southerners say is a foul structure.

How then do you expect the same NASS to engage in political restructuring of Nigeria?

Do you remember that east, west and northern regions formed Nigeria in 1960?How come 20 new states were created in the northern region but an average of 8.5 states in each of the two southern regions? Population and land mass are never used as criteria for creating new political units in a country formed by diverse regions.

Northern military dictators created the 36 states and Abuja political structure. They proliferated too many states and representative constituencies in the northern region that overpopulate the NASS.
So what type of result do you expect from the NASS engaging in political restructuring of Nigeria?

athaboi:
Watch the guy above me and the other helinus...they are both evil! They stay put on nairaland day in day out...they are working for MURIC! I got the hint that they have an agenda. God pass them! He left the major message here which is banning of open grazing and went straight to do their dirty job which is their evil agenda

dey will always fail

onuman:
The NASS is a product of the political structure which the southerners say is a foul structure.

How then do you expect the same NASS to engage in political restructuring of Nigeria?

Do you remember that east, west and northern regions formed Nigeria in 1960?How come 20 new states were created in the northern region but an average of 8.5 states in each of the two southern regions? Population and land mass are never used as criteria for creating new political units in a country formed by diverse regions.

Northern military dictators created the 36 states and Abuja political structure. They proliferated too many states and representative constituencies in the northern region that overpopulate the NASS.
So what type of result do you expect from the NASS engaging in political restructuring of Nigeria?

1. My point which you are sidestepping is that if the southern politicians were serious, they would rely more on the national assembly. Otherwise, who are they calling? Can you pls answer, who is "FG" that is supposed to attend to those demands? Who is "FG"?

How many times have you heard about even a failed motion in the NASS? Do you know of any submissions in the council of establishment, NEC or FEC? Why are the agitations only limited to the media for so many years? This is the point that you are sidestepping.

2. I am just trying to avoid unnecessary circular arguments. But If I engage you in that argument above, you won't win. You cannot convince anyone that population size and landmass should not be used for creating states in a country like Nigeria (which were not the only criteria used, by the way). Can you cite examples of progressive countries that have used your proposal in the creation of states? I want to learn.

3. FYI, many think that we have had enough conferences and blown enough cash on that. People are talking more about implementing all the recommendations.

omoharry:
They don’t have the numbers .The north still outnumbers the southern senators .

It's achievable if they have the political will to push for it. Some North Central States will join them.

They banned it independently yet cattle is still moving day and night


This one too nothing will change and they won't do anything.... But once you take action the political corrects will come yapping rubbish

MoIbrahim:
The shortest cut is NASS!

Who exactly are they calling?
FG? Who is FG? Executive, legislature or judiciary? They know well enough that FG is not specific.

Don't they have legislators (senators and reps) who can move the motion and bring that into enforceable law?

They are just being hypocritical because they know that nothing will come out of this pronouncements.

They know this will be of no consequence and is not enforceable but they just want to deceive their electorates with a decoy

Nonetheless, the gathering alone has its positive side as it should be enough to wake up any well-meaning and living executive from its deep slumber to squarely face all the existential threats.

Are u talking about NASS that is dominated by the north and the rubber stamped speaker?

My governor's suppose to simple say INDEPENDENT SOVEREIGN NATIONAL CONFERENCE with immediate effect.

OlujobaSamuel:
It's achievable if they have the political will to push for it. Some North Central States will join them.

I hope you remember that it’s only Benue state that aligns with the south ? The rest of the middle belt would side with their brothers in the north .

omoharry:
I hope you remember that it’s only Benue state that aligns with the south ? The rest of the middle belt would side with their brothers in the north .

Let them make the move first.

SUPPORTED

AND THE COMPOSITION OF THE NC;-

1 ONE TRADITIONAL RULER PER LOCAL GOVERNMENT = 774 T.R.

2 36 DEPUTY SPEAKERS OF STATE ASSEMBLIES = 36D.S = 810

3, ONE STATE HOUSE OF REP MEMBER PLUS ONE STATE SENATOR MEMBER = 72 + 810 = 882 MEMBERS.

THEY WILL CHOOSE THEIR CHAIRMAN AND SECRETARY BY THEMSELVES FROM AMONG THEMSELVES

AND THEIR MANDATE WILL BE DELIBERATE AND BY THEIR VOTES AUTHORISE

1 FULL AUTONOMY OF POLICING, RESOURCING AND ELECTIONEERING CONTROL FOR EACH OF OUR PRESENTLY EXISTING 36 CONSTITUTIONAL STATES.

2, LIMIT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO FOREIGN AFFAIRS, MILITARIES AND TREATIES SEALING ONLY.

3, FINANCE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY 10% CONTRIBUTIONS OF EACH STATE REVENUE RESOURCES.

4, EACH STATE WILL CONSTITUTE "STATE POLICY SERVICES COUNCILS (SPSC)" FOR HER SOCIAL, ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL GOVERNANCE OF ALL OF THE ABOVE PROCEDURES FOR HER STATE.

From Orisa37:

[quote author=orunto27 post=101612790]SUPPORTED

AND THE COMPOSITION OF THE NC;-

1 ONE TRADITIONAL RULER PER LOCAL GOVERNMENT = 774 T.R.

2 36 DEPUTY SPEAKERS OF STATE ASSEMBLIES = 36D.S = 810

3, ONE STATE HOUSE OF REP MEMBER PLUS ONE STATE SENATOR MEMBER = 72 + 810 = 882 MEMBERS.

THEY WILL CHOOSE THEIR CHAIRMAN AND SECRETARY BY THEMSELVES FROM AMONG THEMSELVES

AND THEIR MANDATE WILL BE DELIBERATE AND BY THEIR VOTES AUTHORISE

1 FULL AUTONOMY OF POLICING, RESOURCING AND ELECTIONEERING CONTROL FOR EACH OF OUR PRESENTLY EXISTING 36 CONSTITUTIONAL STATES.

2, LIMIT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO FOREIGN AFFAIRS, MILITARIES AND TREATIES SEALING ONLY.

3, FINANCE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY 10% CONTRIBUTIONS OF EACH STATE REVENUE RESOURCES.

4, EACH STATE WILL CONSTITUTE "STATE POLICY SERVICES COUNCILS (SPSC)" FOR HER SOCIAL, ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL GOVERNANCE OF ALL OF THE ABOVE PROCEDURES FOR HER STATE.

TO THE SOUTHERN STATES GOVERNMENTS MEETING, SOUTHERN TRADITIONAL RULERS COUNCILS, PROF. AKINTOYE, AFENIFERE OHANAEZE PANDEF MIDDLE BELT GROUP, OBJ, GEJ ETCETERA ETCETERA.

ABOVE F.Y.I. & FOLLOW UP PLEASE. ONCE THE 36 CONSTITUTIONAL STATES ARE FULLY AUTONOMOUS AS BRIEFLY EXPLAINED ABOVE, THEY CAN MERGE WITH THEMSELVES ANYHOW AND IN ANYWAY THEY PLEASE. WE CALL THAT BASIC RIGHTS TO DEVELOPMENT, IMPROVEMENT ENLARGEMENT AND EXPANSION AS THE STATES PLEASE

athaboi:
Watch the guy above me and the other helinus...they are both evil! They stay put on nairaland day in day out...they are working for MURIC! I got the hint that they have an agenda. God pass them! He left the major message here which is banning of open grazing and went straight to do their dirty job which is their evil agenda

The two of them will come to a very terrible unfortunate end in the hands of the fulanis. I am looking for a way to even track them down. I want to pay them a friendly bloody visit. I don mark the 2 of them. One day you will hear the news. Those guys don't deserve to be among the living.

.[quote author=orisa37 post=101615396][/quote]Please recirculate.

The original The original.[quote author=orisa37 post=101615396][/quote]Please recirculate.

Any ban that can not be enforced is a waste of time hoohaa.

MoIbrahim:
1. My point which you are sidestepping is that if the southern politicians were serious, they would rely more on the national assembly. Otherwise, who are they calling? Can you pls answer, who is "FG" that is supposed to attend to those demands? Who is "FG"?

How many times have you heard about even a failed motion in the NASS? Do you know of any submissions in the council of establishment, NEC or FEC? Why are the agitations only limited to the media for so many years? This is the point that you are sidestepping.

2. I am just trying to avoid unnecessary circular arguments. But If I engage you in that argument above, you won't win. You cannot convince anyone that population size and landmass should not be used for creating states in a country like Nigeria (which were not the only criteria used, by the way). Can you cite examples of progressive countries that have used your proposal in the creation of states? I want to learn.

3. FYI, many think that we have had enough conferences and blown enough cash on that. People are talking more about implementing all the recommendations.

Mr you are talking rubbish. When the South decides to push for restructuring, NASS is not needed. Representatives from each State will be the deciding factor and not useless NASS ok. When we decide, we table our demand on round table and expect our demands to be met, if the North refuse, then to your tents Oh Israel, if they want to join us by force, then we fight period

ogwumgbe:
Mr you are talking rubbish. When the South decides to push for restructuring, NASS is not needed. Representatives from each State will be the deciding factor and not useless NASS ok. When we decide, we table our demand on round table and expect our demands to be met, if the North refuse, then to your tents Oh Israel, if they want to join us by force, then we fight period

From your unwarranted intemperance, one could guess the shape and denseness of your head, so no need to try to argue any further.

Enjoy!

danngnews:
Are u talking about NASS that is dominated by the north and the rubber stamped speaker?

Continue to support the call on FG