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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by ANTIlSLAM(m): 2:55pm On May 12, 2021
Lukuluku69:


1. Abraham came from Ur in Chaldea ( Present day Iraq)

2. He settled in Hebron and was clearly called a " Stranger" in that land by the Bible.

3. He had sons (cool actually but only one of them settled in that land. The others were settled northward and southward (Edom/Esau and Ishmael and his sons)

4. The Land of Palestine was promised the children of Israel (The Issac branch) on the condition that they worship God ALONE And OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS. As such, the Pagans of the Land were massacred enmasee in order not to pollute them and their way of Life.

5. Israel Repeatedly flout God's commandments and went after other God's.

Alfa Luku which other gods are u talking about?

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by SouthEastFacts: 2:57pm On May 12, 2021
helinues:


The land that Abraham claimed God promised him is what is currently causing crisis in Gaza area.

Israelites are known to be migrants, that means they migrated to the current place they called their country now Isreal.

According to Bible, Isrealites were ruled by a pagan worshippers king, they had contrary belief and migrated from their original place of birth to seek for greener pastures..

The land was land grabbed all in the name of crusade and forceful conversion of people to their belief. They perpetrated so many evil during the time before the uprising of the people they are oppressing hence the birth of the caliphate..

Same way they forced their religion on Africa with cruelty.

Israel is the oppressor, land grabbed and trouble makers.
My friend, I hope you are not supporting Hamas aggression against peaceful Israelis

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by enilove(m): 2:57pm On May 12, 2021
helinues:


Before you get emotional, get to know that I am not a fan of any of the religion.

Back to how America possessed their land, those are the past mistakes that the world have never taken time to correct... Same as the current conflict in Gaza .

How did religion get to Africa if not through conquering... Forced beliefs on blacks...

How about the slavery all in the name of religion? Those are the things nobody is interested in discussing about.
Did the missionaries enslaved anyine?
The brought religion and free education to Nigeria.

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 3:00pm On May 12, 2021
enilove:

Did the missionaries enslaved anyine?
The brought religion and free education to Nigeria.

Were missionaries not part of early slave traders?
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Lukuluku69(m): 3:00pm On May 12, 2021
enilove:


On whose authorities did America possessed the land of America , which historically belonged to the Red Indians ?

Also , did your Allah not claimed he was the authority that took Israel out of Egypt and asked them to possess it ?

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6. Israel Repeatedly flout God's commandments, kill the Messengers and finally they rejected Jesus the son of Mary

7. That sealed their fate as a Nation. As such Jesus cursed them and say they will be dispersed, their Temple trampled upon.

8. Most Christians believe that once you speak Arabic and you are in the middle East, then you must be An Arab! No! The hitties, edomites, cannites and other sub ethnic groups adopted Arabic way back when Islam was preached. So, the Palestinians are a distinct group.

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 3:02pm On May 12, 2021
SouthEastFacts:

My friend, I hope you are not supporting Hamas aggression against peaceful Israelis

To start with,both of them are religious country... Can't they settle their differences without more shedding of blood... The fight has been going on for century.

The Hamas are simply illiterates who do not know how to express their aggression in a peaceful way..

And pls don't exonerate Israel, they are not peaceful at all...
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Lukuluku69(m): 3:02pm On May 12, 2021
ANTIlSLAM:


Alfa Luku which other gods are u talking about?

Schimei, open your Bible and read nah! You can start from the allegory of Aholibah and Aholah.
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by enilove(m): 3:07pm On May 12, 2021
Lukuluku69:


1. Abraham came from Ur in Chaldea ( Present day Iraq)

2. He settled in Hebron and was clearly called a " Stranger" in that land by the Bible.

3. He had sons (cool actually but only one of them settled in that land. The others were settled northward and southward (Edom/Esau and Ishmael and his sons)

4. The Land of Palestine was promised the children of Israel (The Issac branch) on the condition that they worship God ALONE And OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS. As such, the Pagans of the Land were massacred enmasee in order not to pollute them and their way of Life.

5. Israel Repeatedly flout God's commandments and went after other God's.

You are correct to an extent but the ultimate goal of God has been accomplished .

The main reason God called them to occupy the land was for them to be consecrated and be cleansed from idolatry and pollution for the coming of the Messiah .
Who is to save the whole world of eternal damnation by his blood.

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by ANTIlSLAM(m): 3:10pm On May 12, 2021
Lukuluku69:


Schimei, open your Bible and read nah! You can start from the allegory of Aholibah and Aholah.

Alfa Luku, is like allah is directing you to the bush grin so aholah or whatever na gods Israelite are worshipping.. But which kind maggots slaves do we have in Nigeria self, borrow sense you won't borrow but you'll be disgracing Islam, allah and paedophile muhammad here you this ludicrous element

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by SouthEastFacts: 3:11pm On May 12, 2021
helinues:


To start with,both of them are religious country... Can't they settle their differences without more shedding of blood... The fight has been going on for century.

The Hamas are simply illiterates who do not know how to express their aggression in a peaceful way..

And pls don't exonerate Israel, they are not peaceful at all...
Your best Nairaland comment in ages.

Kudos

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Lukuluku69(m): 3:17pm On May 12, 2021
enilove:


You are correct to an extent but the ultimate goal of God has been accomplished .

The main reason God called them to occupy the land was for them to be consecrated and be cleansed from idolatry and pollution for the coming of the Messiah .
Who is to save the whole world of eternal damnation by his blood.



No. Israel was not cleansed at all! In fact they got worse. Read Isaiah, Jeremiah and host of other Prophets! They became worse all you need do is read Jesus encounter with their Religious heiriachy. Jesus CURSED THEM!

Kingdom of God shall be taken away from them!

The FIG TREE shall withered and not bear FRUITS AGAIN!

They ceased being occupier and ruler in that Land when they rejected God's message thru Jesus.

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Lukuluku69(m): 3:23pm On May 12, 2021
ANTIlSLAM:


Alfa Luku, is like allah is directing you to the bush grin so aholah or whatever na gods Israelite are worshipping.. But which kind maggots slaves do we have in Nigeria self, borrow sense you won't borrow but you'll be disgracing Islam, allah and paedophile muhammad here you this ludicrous element

Shimei, I know you are not up to scratch when it comes to knowledge that's the reason I stopped engaging you.

The allegory of Aholah and Aholibah is about two sister Israel and Judah that defiled themselves by doing after other gods and ways of Life.

I know you don't know and telling you is an Herculean task.

Please go and read up and find true interpretations to those Oracle.

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by ANTIlSLAM(m): 3:33pm On May 12, 2021
Lukuluku69:


Shimei, I know you are not up to scratch when it comes to knowledge that's the reason I stopped engaging you.

Kikikikikiki see how a lady is disgracing, you that's well knowledgable can't answer a simple question she asked from you. Olodo


Lukuluku69:



The allegory of Aholah and Aholibah is about two sister Israel and Judah that defiled themselves by doing after other gods and ways of Life.

I know you don't know and telling you is an Herculean task.

Please go and read up and find true interpretations to those Oracle.

You claimed Israelites flout God's commandments and went after other God's" and to tell which gods they went after you're displaying the level of your delusion, absurdity here on NL. Nawa oo

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 3:45pm On May 12, 2021
enilove:


You are correct to an extent but the ultimate goal of God has been accomplished .

The main reason God called them to occupy the land was for them to be consecrated and be cleansed from idolatry and pollution for the coming of the Messiah .
Who is to save the whole world of eternal damnation by his blood.



If we are to go with the logic of God goals been accomplished, would you blame Boko haram for what they are doing cos they also have the belief of following God's orders

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Empiree: 4:09pm On May 12, 2021
Lukuluku69:


Shimei, I know you are not up to scratch when it comes to knowledge that's the reason I stopped engaging you.

The allegory of Aholah and Aholibah is about two sister Israel and Judah that defiled themselves by doing after other gods and ways of Life.

I know you don't know and telling you is an Herculean task.

Please go and read up and find true interpretations to those Oracle.
please ignore that guy called "anti-Islam". He doesn't have thinking capacity

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by enilove(m): 6:02pm On May 12, 2021
helinues:


If we are to go with the logic of God goals been accomplished, would you blame Boko haram for what they are doing cos they also have the belief of following God's orders

There is Godly goals which is for good and not for evil .
There is also satanic goals which are aimed at evil and destructions .

Boko Haram has evil goals which need to be aborted to prevent evils and destructions.

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by enilove(m): 6:09pm On May 12, 2021
Lukuluku69:


No. Israel was not cleansed at all! In fact they got worse. Read Isaiah, Jeremiah and host of other Prophets! They became worse all you need do is read Jesus encounter with their Religious heiriachy. Jesus CURSED THEM!

Kingdom of God shall be taken away from them!

The FIG TREE shall withered and not bear FRUITS AGAIN!

They ceased being occupier and ruler in that Land when they rejected God's message thru Jesus.

There were many times they worshiped false gods and God punished them after which they repented and worshiped the true God till the coming of Jesus Christ .

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 6:17pm On May 12, 2021
enilove:


There is Godly goals which is for good and not for evil .
There is also satanic goals which are aimed at evil and destructions .

Boko Haram has evil goals which need to be aborted to prevent evils and destructions.






What justification are you using to judge which of the God goals is right between Crusade and Jihad?
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by enilove(m): 6:25pm On May 12, 2021
Empiree:
please ignore that guy called "anti-Islam". He doesn't have thinking capacity

Do you have ?
Which thinking capacity made you Muslims to accept someone like Muhammad as a prophet ?

Hear your prophet :

Hadith
Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri:
I heard that the people asked the Prophet of Allah (ﷺ): Water is brought for you from the well of Buda'ah. It is a well in which dead dogs, menstrual clothes and excrement of people are thrown. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) replied: Verily water is pure and is not defiled by anything.

Abu Dawud said I heard Qutaibah b. Sa'id say: I asked the person in charge of the well of Bud'ah about the depth of the well. He replied: At most the water reaches pubes. Then I asked: Where does it reach when its level goes down ? He replied: Below the private part of the body.

Abu Dawud said: I measured the breadth of the well of Buda'ah with my sheet which I stretched over it. I them measured it with the hand. It measured six cubits in breadth. I then asked the man who opened the door of garden for me and admitted me to it: Has the condition of this well changed from what it had originally been in the past ? He replied: No. I saw the color of water in this well had changed.

Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 67
In-book : Book 1, Hadith 67
English translation : Book 1, Hadith 67
Abu Dawood

Can you do ablution with this kind of water ?
If you can't , why following this bewitched man?

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by enilove(m): 7:40pm On May 12, 2021
helinues:


What justification are you using to judge which of the God goals is right between Crusade and Jihad?

The crusade was set up to wrest the Holy Land ( Jerusalem ) and other lands from Muslim control.

That is , it was set up for protection and liberation . And the Israelites were not part of the crusaders.

The Jihad was set up to acquire lands for Islam by killing the occupiers of the land and forced them to accept Islam by force .

Hadith
Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: I am commanded to fight with men till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His servant and His Apostle, face our qiblah (direction of prayer), eat what we slaughter, and pray like us. When they do that, their life and property are unlawful for us except what is due to them. They will have the same rights as the Muslims have, and have the same responsibilities as the Muslims have.

Sunan Abi Dawud 2641
In-book : Book 15, Hadith 165
English translation : Book 14, Hadith 2635
Abu Dawood

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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 7:43pm On May 12, 2021
enilove:


The crusade was set up to wrest the Holy Land ( Jerusalem ) and other lands from Muslim control.

That is , it was set up for protection and liberation . And the Israelites were not part of the crusaders.

The Jihad was set up to acquire lands for Islam by killing the occupiers of the land and forced them to accept Islam by force .

Hadith
Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: I am commanded to fight with men till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His servant and His Apostle, face our qiblah (direction of prayer), eat what we slaughter, and pray like us. When they do that, their life and property are unlawful for us except what is due to them. They will have the same rights as the Muslims have, and have the same responsibilities as the Muslims have.

Sunan Abi Dawud 2641
In-book : Book 15, Hadith 165
English translation : Book 14, Hadith 2635
Abu Dawood




That is , it was set up for protection and liberation . And the Israelites were not part of the crusaders.

My friend that's simply land grabbing, same thing the boko haram are doing...

According to both, they are carrying out God commands...
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by enilove(m): 9:01pm On May 12, 2021
helinues:




My friend that's simply land grabbing, same thing the boko haram are doing...

According to both, they are carrying out God commands...


What is land grabbing ?
Killing for religion is land grabbing ?

From the hadith I gave you , did you see anything related to land grabbing ?

What I don't do and which I hate is calling white black or black white.
The war of Islam is doing is about religion , period.
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