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Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Myer(m): 10:28am On May 13, 2021 |
helinues: You're very right. God promised the land to Abraham. Yet God's promised legitimate child according to Judaism and Christianity is Isaac. While God's promised legitimate child according to islam is Ishmael. So the land becomes a family feud between Isaac and Ishmael's offsprings. Interestingly there's a confusion in the bible as God blessed Ishmael with 12 princes and promised to make him great Genesis 17:20-27 |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by LordReed(m): 10:35am On May 13, 2021 |
helinues: That was after the Babylonian captivity not before. There is no evidence of large scale migration from any where to mark the formation of the Hebrew culture. The archaeological evidence showing largely indigenous origins of Israel in Canaan, not Egypt, is "overwhelming" and leaves "no room for an Exodus from Egypt or a 40-year pilgrimage through the Sinai wilderness".[6] Many archaeologists have abandoned the archaeological investigation of Moses and the Exodus as "a fruitless pursuit".[6] A century of research by archaeologists and Egyptologists has arguably found no evidence that can be directly related to the Exodus narrative of an Egyptian captivity and the escape and travels through the wilderness, leading to the suggestion that Iron Age Israel—the kingdoms of Judah and Israel—has its origins in Canaan, not in Egypt:[7][8] The culture of the earliest Israelite settlements is Canaanite, their cult-objects are those of the Canaanite god El, the pottery remains in the local Canaanite tradition, and the alphabet used is early Canaanite. 1 Like |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 10:36am On May 13, 2021 |
LordReed: I said after the new Israelites nation prosper... |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by LordReed(m): 10:39am On May 13, 2021 |
helinues: Not even then. The only evidenced large scale migration was after Babylonian captivity ended and the Israelite nation was restored. 1 Like |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 10:42am On May 13, 2021 |
LordReed: But you are repeating the same thing I am saying... Was it not after Babylonian captivity ended the Israel nation begins to prosper? |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by LordReed(m): 10:45am On May 13, 2021 |
helinues: No, the golden age of the Israelite nation was the Kingdoms of the house of David and Solomon, before the Babylonian captivity. 1 Like |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 10:49am On May 13, 2021 |
LordReed: You have shifted from the topic of discussion. How did Israelites acquire their land? That's the bone of contention |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by LordReed(m): 10:56am On May 13, 2021 |
helinues: I didn't shift anywhere. Look at what I wrote before: LordReed: 1 Like |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 11:00am On May 13, 2021 |
LordReed: The idea of a god promising them land is part of their mythological past meant to give justifications for the wars of conquest they embarked on to expand their territory in the ancient past Is that not the same thing Boko haram are doing now |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by LordReed(m): 11:02am On May 13, 2021 |
helinues: Now you are the one shifting to something else. Is Boko Haram claiming god gave them the land? 2 Likes |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Lukuluku69(m): 11:40am On May 13, 2021 |
ANTIlSLAM: Shimei, if I show you where Israel went after other gods and ways of Life from your Bible thru the ages/history would you accept that the mods ban you for life on this Forum? And if the mods feel I did not satisfy that challenge I should be banned for life too? Deal? |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Lukuluku69(m): 11:49am On May 13, 2021 |
enilove: Glad that you agreed that they went after other gods one slowpoke of a guy a.k.a Shimei doesn't know, perhaps you can enlighten him. Even while Moses was with them they worshiped the Golden Calf (Moses was gone for only 40 days) |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Lukuluku69(m): 11:51am On May 13, 2021 |
Empiree: Not thinking at all. Thanks brother. Eid Mubarak to you and the Family. |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Lukuluku69(m): 11:58am On May 13, 2021 |
ANTIlSLAM: Do you agree to a Life ban on this Forum if I show you the other gods the Jews you worshiped went after? And if the mods are not satisfied, make chop life Life ban too? All references from the Bible only. Deal? Seen Lalasticala Mynd |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Empiree: 12:16pm On May 13, 2021 |
Lukuluku69:Taqabbal allahu minna wa minkum |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by helinues: 12:17pm On May 13, 2021 |
Lukuluku69: I really don't understand why some people can't exchange 3 conversations without name calling... Educated people for that matter 1 Like |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by ANTIlSLAM(m): 1:15pm On May 13, 2021 |
Lukuluku69: Wetin consign me if den ban you for life leave story tell me the gods they went after 1 Like |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by ANTIlSLAM(m): 1:18pm On May 13, 2021 |
Lukuluku69: Kooky, leave story answer the question you this slave boy |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by alfarouq(m): 1:38pm On May 13, 2021 |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by alfarouq(m): 1:42pm On May 13, 2021 |
Truth is only one and unique, the moment you try to maniulte it, it becomes a lie. A lie is a lie, no matter the effort and energy you put into whitewashing it, it is still a lie, albeit a beautiful light Summary of the Palestine question you just can't argue with the logic of an Israeli land grabber, He said "If i don't steal your house, another person will, it is not my doing" such is the level of chutzpah https://twitter.com/Abd_HajYahia/status/1388378494518845440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1388730050141380609%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.commondreams.org%2Fnews%2F2021%2F05%2F04%2Fisraeli-man-trying-take-over-palestinian-home-says-if-i-dont-steal-it-someone-else |
Re: Abraham's Promised Land And The Gaza Conflict by Nobody: 1:56pm On May 13, 2021 |
helinues: Sorry pls, according to which part of the Bible. |
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