₦airaland Forum

Norwichsailor:
Give me theoretical explanation as to why you're thinking the niger delta is not possible without the igbos? Realistically the igbos are surrounded by enemies and pissing off the SS which is your only ally is not a sound strategy, I'm beginning to believe you're not even igbo sef.

SweetiliciousD:
You are right. I'm a Niger Deltan Biafra.

Ask UGM

SlayerForever:
A lot of dynamics are at play, it is difficult to tell exactly what will happen then.

blues234:
One of the core reason Ikwerre don't accept the Igbo tag is because of Biafra. Call them Igbo and see them tell you to your face they are not Biafrans. This is as a result of their hellish experience during the war. Ikwerres were refuges in mainland Igbo, and the experience was bitter. They came back to their land and experienced another marginalization from FG Ijaw backed Rivers state. This experience is not what you will want a repeat of.
Funny enough, bulk of Ikwerre people fought on the side of Biafra, during the civil war. In a nutshell, forget Biafra. Go for a restructured Nigeria.

Norwichsailor:
Its impossible for ijaw,ibibio,bini etc to form a country but Nigeria with over 200 ethnic groups is a country.
Some of u igbo chaps feel the world revolves around you meanwhile it doesn't.
In niger delta almost everyone has sea access,oil, good land and infrastructure, ibibio/efik or ijaw which would be the largest groups can't still overwhelmingly dominate without support from several other groups unlike what u have here in Nigeria.
Worry about ur biafra and let us worry about niger delta, know this and know peace.
Besides u claim its only igbo land that connects us and thats crap, from the ogoja territory down to to ibibio land u can navigate without going through the se, now from ikot abasi the ibibios connect to the ijaw in obolo lga of rivers, as usual the ijaws own the coast from there through bayelsa down to ondo where they now border the bini,urhobo and esan by land. I've just gone from the two farthest points in the niger delta without going through even the igboid tribes in the ss so brother don't feel too much about urself

ivandragon:
The one I find most interesting is that of the Edos...

When Biafra map is done, Edo is not included.

When Oduduwa map is done, no Edo.

Middle belt Map, no Edo...

So if Nigeria breaks up, will Edo become its own country?

In the event of a break up, I forsee Edo State becoming a Switzerland or Luxemburg... Neutral & prosperous...

kollinzgee:
Unless the country is restructured in less than 5 years i dont see Nigeria existing.
i dont see igbos grabbing niger delta tribes by force but they will definitely go for the south south igbos from delta down to Rivers wether it is with force or with peace i dont really know how.
igbos know southeast is small,and it makes no sense that that igbo speakers are ceded to the southsouth while southeast is not even as big as some states in the north.if southeast igbos lay claim to south south igbos no tribe in the Niger delta would interfere or wage war against igbos because it would be every man for himself and a family afair, when the time comes

Norwichsailor:
Why must they overtake SS first before they take their land? What business does an efik/ibibio or bini or ijaw man have when igbos and their offshoot groups in the ss are doing their business that they must overtake the entire ss? Between anioma and anambra there are no itshekiri or bini in between, between ikwerre,etche etc and abia/imo there's no ijaw or ogoni territory Inbetween or you didn't do geography at any point in your life ?Don't allow me insult you this morning

helinues:
Except South South and South East merge together to form a country, I don't think any of them can get independent on their own

It get why

When old Western region and Eastern region was dissolved, Gowon the evil genius cunningly cut out majority of where concentration of Igbos are out of the border line.. I am not saying the indigenous Igbos in SS don't share border with SE but if you look at it in extension, you should get what I mean.

If SE people want to claim their land back,before they can get to where the concentration of Igbos are, they must have overtaken South South land...

Masterkernel1:
Eating with the Devil, does it require long spoon?

gidgiddy:
When Nigeria breaks up, you will find out that the so called SS/ SE will no longer exist, they actually dont exist as the constitution does not recognize them. The only thing that will matter are the ethnic nationalities.

Most people will choose to be in the same country with those they speak the same language with, rather than those they dont know what they are saying. All the Igbo speaking people in Nigeria, Anioma, Ikwerre, Delta Igbo, Rivers Igbo and the Igbos of the lower Benue, will all go as one country

As for the Ijaws, Ogonis, Binis, Uhrobos, Ibibios, Efiks etc, they are in a hell of a mess because the only thing that actually brings them together are Igbos, only Igbos and Igbo speaking people have land border with all of them. It is virtually impossible for these tribes to to come together and form any country on their own. It will be interesting to see what happens

Idiko1:
Most Nigerians tend to show their ignorance on a jiffy. The so-called South-South does not own any land. However the ethnic nationalities own lands. Ndigbo know their ancestral land boundaries and the claim to the land is not negotiable. The states Gowon created did not change the composition of the ethnic stripes or coloration of lands. An Igbo person in Akwa Ibom or Cross River or Benue or Edo or Kogi or Bayelsa State has the same ethnic composition of Igbo person from Imo, Abia, Rivers, Delta, Ebonyi, Enugu or Anambra State.

blues234:
One of the core reason Ikwerre don't accept the Igbo tag is because of Biafra. Call them Igbo and see them tell you to your face they are not Biafrans. This is as a result of their hellish experience during the war. Ikwerres were refuges in mainland Igbo, and the experience was bitter. They came back to their land and experienced another marginalization from FG Ijaw backed Rivers state. This experience is not what you will want a repeat of.
Funny enough, bulk of Ikwerre people fought on the side of Biafra, during the civil war. In a nutshell, forget Biafra. Go for a restructured Nigeria.

IGBOSON1:
Blood is thicker than water! When Nigeria disintegrates (once Igbos leave, that’s when you’ll know the rest two-faced hypocrites don’t love Nigeria), Ndigbo in the south-east wouldn’t even need to ‘force’ Igbos in the present south-south to join....they’ll do it of their own volition! Don’t even be surprised if non-Igbos want to join us too, by way of a federation!

OfoIgbo:
Actually, I expect Ibibios to be able to form a great nation. They have the right temperament for that. They gave Biafra some badass administrators like NU Akpan and of course Obong Efiong.
If Ibibios further join up with Efiks, Annangs and othe Akwa-Cross ethnic nationalities with whom they share certain similarities, the nation will be very attractive.
The only downside will be that Bakassi will be lost for good, as it will be easier to get with 10s of millions of Biafrans than just a few million Akwa-Cross people, but Bakassi is a small price to pay for ones self-determination.

No doubt Ibibios have more in common with Igbos than they do with Edo people, and even Ijoid people with whom they have common land borders, but still I don't see any obstacle if Akwa-cross people wish to join up with the Midwest to form a nation. But an SS nation will be too restrictive for enterprising Ibibios. An Akwa-cross nation will suit Ibibios and the other Akwa-cross ethnic groups just fine.

helinues:
Na 3 options dey

1. The Igbo people in South South should relocate to any of the SE states cos they are merely a tenant

2. Carry the land the Igbo are indigenous to in SS and move it to SE region

3. Repeat 1967 history to claim the land.

OfoIgbo:
And town names in the SS like UmuIgbo, Ogwashi-uku, Obigbo, Umuibekwe, Asaba, Igweocha, Ubani e.t.c. so these are non-Igboid towns and the Igbo-speaking people who come from these towns should evacuate it for which people?

When old Western region and Eastern region was dissolved, Gowon the evil genius cunningly cut out majority of where concentration of Igbos are out of the border line.. I am not saying the indigenous Igbos in SS don't share border with SE but if you look at it in extension, you should get what I mean.

If SE people want to claim their land back,before they can get to where the concentration of Igbos are, they must have overtaken some South South land...

gidgiddy:
Yes Akwa-Cross can form a country on their own, but not with the former midwest. The reason is that should all the Igbo speaking people in SE/SS decide to form a seperate country, the Akwa-Cross msn will not be able to travel to Bini without going through Igbo territory

helinues:
Na 3 options dey

1. The Igbo people in South South should relocate to any of the SE states cos they are merely a tenant

2. Carry the land the Igbo are indigenous to in SS and move it to SE region

3. Repeat 1967 history to claim the land.

ivandragon:
The one I find most interesting is that of the Edos...

When Biafra map is done, Edo is not included.

When Oduduwa map is done, no Edo.

Middle belt Map, no Edo...

So if Nigeria breaks up, will Edo become its own country?

In the event of a break up, I forsee Edo State becoming a Switzerland or Luxemburg... Neutral & prosperous...

gidgiddy:
When Nigeria breaks up, you will find out that the so called SS/ SE will no longer exist, they actually dont exist as the constitution does not recognize them. The only thing that will matter are the ethnic nationalities.

Most people will choose to be in the same country with those they speak the same language with, rather than those they dont know what they are saying. All the Igbo speaking people in Nigeria, Anioma, Ikwerre, Delta Igbo, Rivers Igbo and the Igbos of the lower Benue, will all go as one country

As for the Ijaws, Ogonis, Binis, Uhrobos, Ibibios, Efiks etc, they are in a hell of a mess because the only thing that actually brings them together are Igbos, only Igbos and Igbo speaking people have land border with all of them. It is virtually impossible for these tribes to to come together and form any country on their own. It will be interesting to see what happens

Akwamkpuruamu:
As in eeh, I no nọ how dem wan take do. Maybe they would join Oduduwa

gidgiddy:
When Nigeria breaks up, you will find out that the so called SS/ SE will no longer exist, they actually dont exist as the constitution does not recognize them. The only thing that will matter are the ethnic nationalities.

Most people will choose to be in the same country with those they speak the same language with, rather than those they dont know what they are saying. All the Igbo speaking people in Nigeria, Anioma, Ikwerre, Delta Igbo, Rivers Igbo and the Igbos of the lower Benue, will all go as one country

As for the Ijaws, Ogonis, Binis, Uhrobos, Ibibios, Efiks etc, they are in a hell of a mess because the only thing that actually brings them together are Igbos, only Igbos and Igbo speaking people have land border with all of them. It is virtually impossible for these tribes to to come together and form any country on their own. It will be interesting to see what happens

blues234:
One of the core reason Ikwerre don't accept the Igbo tag is because of Biafra. Call them Igbo and see them tell you to your face they are not Biafrans. This is as a result of their hellish experience during the war. Ikwerres were refuges in mainland Igbo, and the experience was bitter. They came back to their land and experienced another marginalization from FG Ijaw backed Rivers state. This experience is not what you will want a repeat of.
Funny enough, bulk of Ikwerre people fought on the side of Biafra, during the civil war. In a nutshell, forget Biafra. Go for a restructured Nigeria.

Masterkernel1:
We've never laid claims to South South, except when their leadership willingly agree, example is the Biafra Nigerian war. Some parts agreed while some didn't.

You can't force a people to a union it will end bad.

Biafraland is bigger than many independent states in Europe.

Norwichsailor:
Its impossible for ijaw,ibibio,bini etc to form a country but Nigeria with over 200 ethnic groups is a country.
Some of u igbo chaps feel the world revolves around you meanwhile it doesn't.
In niger delta almost everyone has sea access,oil, good land and infrastructure, ibibio/efik or ijaw which would be the largest groups can't still overwhelmingly dominate without support from several other groups unlike what u have here in Nigeria.
Worry about ur biafra and let us worry about niger delta, know this and know peace.
Besides u claim its only igbo land that connects us and thats crap, from the ogoja territory down to to ibibio land u can navigate without going through the se, now from ikot abasi the ibibios connect to the ijaw in obolo lga of rivers, as usual the ijaws own the coast from there through bayelsa down to ondo where they now border the bini,urhobo and esan by land. I've just gone from the two farthest points in the niger delta without going through even the igboid tribes in the ss so brother don't feel too much about urself

IGBOSON1:
Blood is thicker than water! When Nigeria disintegrates (once Igbos leave, that’s when you’ll know the rest two-faced hypocrites don’t love Nigeria), Ndigbo in the south-east wouldn’t even need to ‘force’ Igbos in the present south-south to join....they’ll do it of their own volition! Don’t even be surprised if non-Igbos want to join us too, by way of a federation!

Idiko1:
Please submit yourself to the torture of the critical thinking. What southeast and south-south are you still talking about when the shithole called Nigeria has disintegrated? If at all Igbo shall relocate, should other ethic nationalities in the so-called south-south also relocate and to where? In Igbo lands from Benue, Kogi and Edo to Rivers and Bayelsa are contiguous entity.

helinues:
Not necessarily most especially when the person is devil himself

ivandragon:
The one I find most interesting is that of the Edos...

When Biafra map is done, Edo is not included.

When Oduduwa map is done, no Edo.

Middle belt Map, no Edo...

So if Nigeria breaks up, will Edo become its own country?

In the event of a break up, I forsee Edo State becoming a Switzerland or Luxemburg... Neutral & prosperous...

Elliot2:
That is my fear. South south would be the most messed up in the event of breakup because there is nothing uniting minorities except igbos(not even oil). I am from Bayelsa State(Ijaw). The confusion of a south south state can only be imagined. Only a merge with Igbos can give us a sense of purpose. Maybe in future, we can seek to become a separate country after understand how to govern ourselves.

EdoDefence:
Edo is not an entity of/to ibos