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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by Akwamkpuruamu: 5:04pm On May 15, 2021
helinues:


Christians started terrorism all in the name of crusade... That was one of the reason why Bible was modified.. Quran is yet to be modified hence the terrorist still referring to some verse to carry out their evil mission

Was the crusaders before Mohammed the war monger

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by SLAP44: 5:05pm On May 15, 2021
helinues:


Is God an estate real agent?

No, he is your maker, your beginning and your ending and in only in him can you find any meaning of anything.

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by Akwamkpuruamu: 5:06pm On May 15, 2021
omonnakoda:


Who wrote this Genesis .

This same fanaticism that we see in Islam is what we are seeing here

The objective truth to me as a black African

Is that Genesis is The HISTORY of the Hebrews ACCORDING TO THEM.

There is no proof that there is a God or that if there is a God that God shares land or that God Chose any one people above another.

That is What they say and believe.
Also by the way according to the Bible Abraham had 8 sons . Which of those 8 did he say would inherit the land.


My take is that to analyse this issue we have to leave God completely out of it because those claims cannot be verified

Genesis 17:19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. Genesis 17:21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.

Isaac Sir
Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by Akwamkpuruamu: 5:07pm On May 15, 2021
omonnakoda:
Anyone can start a new religion anyday
Anyone can wake up and say god promised me this or that , write it down and say this is the word of God. That is how both the bible and Quran came about

What's preventing you not to start? Why has there been no other book with great impact besides the bible? Full of prophecies that came to pass, impacted humanity in great positive ways, a book that has universal authority

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by omonnakoda: 5:07pm On May 15, 2021
SLAP44:


The only problem you have, is that you are a non believer and a sinner.
That may be true .Though Your bible tells you not to judge so you have already JUDGED YOURSELF


The reality is that is a fanatical mindset no different from that of Islamists

In the secular world that we inhabit Most of us are unbelievers and sinners and we must have a way of resolving conflict that does not reference so called Holy Books
That way is reason and logic.

Otherwise how are you different from Al Qaeda or The Taliban

Once you take this position of

My Holy Book says this and everything else is wrong. Anyone who does not agree is unbeliever , Kafir etc what next? Behead me?

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by omonnakoda: 5:10pm On May 15, 2021
Akwamkpuruamu:


What's preventing you not to start? Why has there been no other book with great impact besides the bible? Full of prophecies that came to pass, impacted humanity in great positive ways, a book that has universal authority
That is what you say
I do not see that impact
Muslims make the same kinds or ridiculous claims about their Quran

How are you with this mindset different from Boko Haram?

Are you capable of living rationally and peacefully with those who do not subscribe to your doctrine?

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by helinues: 5:11pm On May 15, 2021
SLAP44:


No, he is your maker, your beginning and your ending and in only in him can you find any meaning of anything.

So where is the certificate of ownership he presented to the Israelites for conquering the land?
Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by Akwamkpuruamu: 5:12pm On May 15, 2021
omonnakoda:
That is what you say
I do not see that impact
Muslims make the same kinds or ridiculous claims about their Quran

How are you with this mindset different from Boko Haram?

Are you capable of living rationally and peacefully with those who do not subscribe to your doctrine?

Maybe you have seen me with Allahu ku booom
Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by helinues: 5:12pm On May 15, 2021
Akwamkpuruamu:


Was the crusaders before Mohammed the war monger

Far far before Mohammed

All those war stories in the bible are act of terrorism
Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by Akwamkpuruamu: 5:13pm On May 15, 2021
helinues:


So where is the certificate of ownership he presented to the Israelites for conquering the land?

Why don't you go and help the Palestinians to take back their land While hide beyond your keypad, are you a keyboard warrior

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by helinues: 5:14pm On May 15, 2021
Akwamkpuruamu:


Why don't you go and help the Palestinians to take back their land While hide beyond your keypad, are you a keyboard warrior

Oya drop the goal post, answer my question
Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by Akwamkpuruamu: 5:15pm On May 15, 2021
helinues:


Far far before Mohammed

All those war stories in the bible are act of terrorism

Maybe you read the bible from behind. Now in this modern age and 21st century, while are your muslim terrorists still fighting and killing the world, denying humanity peace? Why have they raised bokoharam, isis, Al shabab, tali an, Al Quaeda etc
Have we not grown past the age of fighting for Allah

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by SlayerForever: 5:16pm On May 15, 2021
helinues:


Probably , you only relied on bible as your source, even at that, you stylishly avoid all the questions I asked.

Is God an estate real agent that gives land to whoever he pleases? Which land did God promise Abraham?

How did they eventually acquire that land.. This time, don't shift the goal post



Wow. Igbo people say "iberibe ne nye onye ara morale". It means stupidity makes one very daring.

You're a Muslim it's quite incredible how you comfortably commit blasphemy.

They displaced the original inhabitants known as the Canaanites and thus it became theirs.

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by omonnakoda: 5:16pm On May 15, 2021
Akwamkpuruamu:


Genesis 17:19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. Genesis 17:21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.

Isaac Sir
Where did that mention Land? The same Earth that your Bible says will "PASS AWAY"

Any covenant that is everlasting cannot be linked to land that is NOT everlasting

Did the Bible specifically mention THAT land in the verse you are quoting as an element of a covenant

Why can this covenant not be linked to Jesus and his Gospel promise of eternal life?
Why link it to Jews?

You claim to be Christian and have no understanding of your religion

Did Jesus not rebuke those claiming to be descendants of Abraham saying God could raise descendant to Abraham from stones?

The Covenant of God in your religious system that is for eternity CANNOT be about the Land of Palestine.
Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by helinues: 5:18pm On May 15, 2021
SlayerForever:




Wow. Igbo people say "iberibe ne nye onye ara morale". It means stupidity makes one very daring.

You're a Muslim it's quite incredible how you comfortably commit blasphemy.

They displaced the original inhabitants known as the Canaanites and thus it became theirs.



Igbo people say "iberibe ne nye onye ara morale". It means stupidity makes one very daring

Indeed they are right @ bolded

So I have to be a muslim before opposing your views?

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by SLAP44: 5:21pm On May 15, 2021
omonnakoda:
That may be true .Though Your bible tells you not to judge so you have already JUDGED YOURSELF


The reality is that is a fanatical mindset no different from that of Islamists

In the secular world that we inhabit Most of us are unbelievers and sinners and we must have a way of resolving conflict that does not reference so called Holy Books
That way is reason and logic.

Otherwise how are you different from Al Qaeda or The Taliban

Once you take this position of

My Holy Book says this and everything else is wrong. Anyone who does not agree is unbeliever , Kafir etc what next? Behead me?

No, just hand you over to the loving hand of our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ who only can save you and show you the light. Only him can clear your argument.

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by omonnakoda: 5:23pm On May 15, 2021
SLAP44:


No, just hand you over to the loving hand of our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ who only can save you and show you the light. Only him can clear your argument.
I hand you over to the loving hand of Ogun Lakaaye Oshinmole. He will make you alright
Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by budaatum: 5:25pm On May 15, 2021
temitope27:
I don't have ur answer, the only answer I have is go and read the Bible

You mean the Bible where we read Abraham bought a piece of the land, or the bit where some went on to grab a lot more by force as they have done ever since?

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by helinues: 5:27pm On May 15, 2021
temitope27:
I don't have ur answer, the only answer I have is go and read the Bible

What would you have expected from a book written by the same Jews? Would they have written something that won't suit their readers or perhaps write against the atrocities they have been commiting for century?

Hitler might be cruel but he wasn't mad

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by budaatum: 5:34pm On May 15, 2021
helinues:


What would you have expected from a book written by the same Jews? Would they have written something that won't suit their readers or perhaps write against the atrocities they have been commiting for century?

Hitler might be cruel but he wasn't mad

He was mad actually. But the other part is so true.

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by helinues: 5:35pm On May 15, 2021
budaatum:


He was mad actually. But the other part is so true.

The full line might attract banning..Decode it
Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by Turantula(m): 5:37pm On May 15, 2021
It is the will of God, never question him, he knows what is best for the world
Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by budaatum: 5:45pm On May 15, 2021
Turantula:
It is the will of God, never question him, he knows what is best for the world

It is the will of God that some people are committing evil?

Not only will I question that God you speak of, but you show me where that God is please so I can bash its useless head against a rock at the bottom of a river so you can stop doing its evil will!

Thankfully, the Almighty Lord God wills no evil!

Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by limeta(f): 6:15pm On May 15, 2021
only since 1946 tell us a little before 1946

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by codedguy1(m): 6:18pm On May 15, 2021
helinues:


Is God an estate real agent?

Your stupidity is pristine.

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by somehow: 6:54pm On May 15, 2021
You're talking to Nigerians? A country filled with plenty brain dead humans that can't think outside the box?

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by omonnakoda: 6:55pm On May 15, 2021
If we are to accept God as an arbiter of land disputes between the Palestinians and the Israelites then logically we must do the same in the dispute between Fulanis and Nigerians.
If the Fulani say they are chosen by God above all other neighbours and that Nigeria belongs to them and we should all "dress" how do we fault that claim?

Here The Israelis are the ones telling us what their God said. Should we ask what the Palestinians say their own God says or does that not matter?


Should a similar logic not play out with the Fulani.

For me this highlights the absurdity of bringing Gods into human matters among people who have different Gods and or equally important NO GOD AT ALL

Christians and Muslims are two sides of the same bad coin
Jus as fanatic , just as intolerant

What I find funny is how Nigerian Christians think that they identify with Jews
Jew do not really identify with Christians. In fact their doctrine is closer to Islam.
The European Christians who brought it to Nigeria never identified with Jews. Do some research into the origin of the word "GHETTO"

Europeans are now just trying to compensate for centuries of maltreatment of Jews .

Remember the racist stereotype of Shylock

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by Idiko1: 7:10pm On May 15, 2021
vengertime:
Rubbish from a dillusional OP, Israel is the rightful owner of their land.

Palestinians should return back to Jordan where they come from.


Israel should just throw one nuclear bomb and end these Islamic terrorist. Israel have tolerated this nonsense for too Long.

France, America, Britain and China should just throw multiple bombs starting from Saudi Arabia to Jordan and end these terrorists life so that the world can be a better place

https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/13541793_screenshot20210514223702_jpeg9237ce1c686409f8c95bd643b1bab58c


Bro many dumb fools in Nigeria tend live off the propaganda published by the Arabs. You posted the correct picture of Palestine which came into existence through Lord Belfour in 1922. Israel and Jordan made up what was referred as Palestine in 1922 which came under British administration as result of the defeat of Germany and its allies including Turkey under Othman.

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by Idiko1: 7:15pm On May 15, 2021
helinues:


Are the Israelites migrants? Yes or No

Which land did Abraham claim God promised him?

How did Israelites acquire those lands kf they are migrants?

In the bible, it was claimed that Israelites conquered the land, what does the word conquered mean?

No, is the answer to your question. The real migrants to Palestine were Arabs. There was no leader of the so-called Palestine People that was born in British mandate for Palestine. The restate British referred as Palestine was Assyrian land under the Othman. Othman and Turkey lost land after Germany and its allies were defeated in WW1. Syria and Lebanon fell under the French Mandate.

The British mandate for Palestine was divided into 33% to Israel (Jews) and 77% to Jordan (Arabs). However, the Arabs wanted the entire Palestine to themselves. At the birth of Israel as independent state in 1948, the Arabs attacked the new state. Israel lost Judea and Samaria (West Bank) of River Jordan to a British commander who lead the Arab legionnaires. Till day, the deceitful Arabs do not refer to area on the west bank of River Jordan as Judea and Samaria or any Arabic name because of its implication.

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by Idiko1: 7:34pm On May 15, 2021
helinues:


So where is the certificate of ownership he presented to the Israelites for conquering the land?

Palestine was the invention of Lord Belfour in 1922. Palestine never existed anywhere before 1922.

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Re: Palestinian Loss Of Land From 1946 To Present by DMerciful(m): 7:50pm On May 15, 2021
So you believe all Jews came from Abraham?
helinues:


Probably , you only relied on bible as your source, even at that, you stylishly avoid all the questions I asked.

Is God an estate real agent that gives land to whoever he pleases? Which land did God promise Abraham?

How did they eventually acquire that land.. This time, don't shift the goal post

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