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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 12:33am On May 16, 2021
truthshots3:



Among my dad's coursemates, most of the guys who reached the rank of brigadier general are northerners, most of them were among the worse in courses and had lower education than their southern counterparts who were compulsorily retired at the rank of colonel for most of them.
Stop giving us lamba abeg, which course was your father to start with let's cross examine your claims.
Did you even know that at the senior level from Colonel upwards promotion is based on slots across each region, even at that level they still try to balance things maybe your father was retired because age on rank has caught up with him, or even failed his promotional exams and be giving you guys lamba at home.
The Army has its own issues, I agree and I do point it out here but the way you're portraying the institution is as if it is made up solely by a particular group of people which is not true.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 4:42am On May 16, 2021
SamuelAnyawu:


Exaggeration? Come NE abeg.

Many of you don’t know what’s popping down here. Continue reading NE war from Twitter.


Number of soldiers killed has nothing to do with coming to NE. This is purely statistics realeased by institutions that have no relation to the Government or the military. Even soldiers fighting in North East cannot accurately tell you the number of soldiers KIA compared to terrorists killed without statistic report. The difference is really far bro, no just go there. I know being there would definitely affect your emotions but statistics and emotions are different, Emotion would make you think 10 soldiers KIA is more than 100 Terrorists eliminated when you start hearing about their names, history, bravery, personality and so on. That's what emotion does, but statistics puts everything straight.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 4:46am On May 16, 2021
ugo4u:

Stop giving us lamba abeg, which course was your father to start with let's cross examine your claims.
Did you even know that at the senior level from Colonel upwards promotion is based on slots across each region, even at that level they still try to balance things maybe your father was retired because age on rank has caught up with him, or even failed his promotional exams and be giving you guys lamba at home.
The Army has its own issues, I agree and I do point it out here but the way you're portraying the institution is as if it is made up solely by a particular group of people which is not true.

There's something I don't understand about you guys replying the troll. Is it that you're just using him to catch cruise and while away time or you're expecting logic and facts from him?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 5:16am On May 16, 2021
youghs:


Number of soldiers killed has nothing to do with coming to NE. This is purely statistics realeased by institutions that have no relation to the Government or the military. Even soldiers fighting in North East cannot accurately tell you the number of soldiers KIA compared to terrorists killed without statistic report. The difference is really far bro, no just go there. I know being there would definitely affect your emotions but statistics and emotions are different, Emotion would make you think 10 soldiers KIA is more than 100 Terrorists eliminated when you start hearing about their names, history, bravery, personality and so on. That's what emotion does, but statistics puts everything straight.

Bro’s I don’t argue on this at all.

Where are we killing the Terrorists? In our ducking FOBs and Supercamps?

We are conducting ambushes? Wulgo, Kirenowa, Logomani?

We are attacking their locations?

I don’t bring emotions into my thinking I’m a Rugged Dude. I’m saying what the real scores ongoing here.

Baba boys Dey go down unnecessarily

It’s well sha. God Bless Nigeria

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 6:55am On May 16, 2021
truthshots3:


Nice to see I generate such interests, but you need to sharpen your comprehension skills

https://www.nairaland.com/6550922/southern-governors-resolutions-acf-backs/2#101650407

To be truthful, most of you are not sufficiently intelligent to understand the world you live in.
I don't blame people for not being smart, but I don't debate them neither. I can educate you guys though, for a pay but I already have a job and I don't think you can match my salary.

Sounds like an unemployed youth dreaming for a job all his life.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 7:31am On May 16, 2021
ugo4u:

I want to believe you're talking about the 1963 model, for me it was close to the best system of governance we had before the military struck. That been said the Swiss model is quite attractive, Canada also practice something similar.

NB:
The U.K route I was talking about is wrt to the union of Ireland, Britain and Scotland.

How is the 1963 model the best when Western region didn't know peace from the day after the first election till it was bifurcated into mid-west region later collapsed completely?
You guys talk about these things with super ignorance, Nigeria won't smell regional setting again, never!!
Collapse of the regions was good riddance to bad rubbish, regional government was the shortest in Nigeria's history plagued with so many challenges that led to its abandonment yet kids that refused to study want it back.
Go and read the problems of the regional government first.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 8:02am On May 16, 2021
Illumined939:
If you want to verify whether the Nigerian Army is a sectional army,or not, go to any village in Plateau or Taraba state, dominated by Christians, and ask, "what role does the Nigerian Army play in the aftermath of any fulani attack?"
If you want to understand Nigeria, travel, ask questions, don't just stay on your phone, assuming. Go talk to poor Nigerians in remote villages that have at one time, endured the brunt of the Nigerian Army.

Have you heard about Mambila militia in Taraba before?
When next you go to Taraba, ask the right questions, don't sit like a Zombie to be fed tales by moonlight, the likes of Danjuma et al were funding the militia to protect the farms against Fulani terrorists & herdsmen that over run their crops.
The militia refused to be coalesced into the state armed forces structure, unlike almost all the vigilantes & support armed groups in every state including the Civillian JTF in Borno.

Mambilla militia succeeded for a while but over zealously set out on a vendetta mission to oust peaceful fulani settlers in the state, military came in with the mandate to disarm both groups, !diots like Danjuma started crying fowl that military took sides with the Fulanis but forgot to tell you that the militia had no evidence that those settlers were responsible for the attacks in the farm to have butchered them.

Do you expect the military to fold her arms & watch a total break down of law & order?
That's the issue in Taraba, they are unhappy their militia was disarmed but won't tell you their militia lost their mandate from protection of farms to attacking settlers.

The same thing is about to happen in the SE, IPOB launched ESN with the pretext they will protect farmlands, instead of remaining in the farms, they are everywhere attacking police, army, vigilantes & Innocent people.
Why should they not be disarmed?

Every group hides behind a security challenge to arm themselves against their perceived enemies then expect the army to fold arms & watch?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 8:40am On May 16, 2021
SamuelAnyawu:


Bro’s I don’t argue on this at all.

Where are we killing the Terrorists? In our ducking FOBs and Supercamps?

We are conducting ambushes? Wulgo, Kirenowa, Logomani?

We are attacking their locations?

I don’t bring emotions into my thinking I’m a Rugged Dude. I’m saying what the real scores ongoing here.

Baba boys Dey go down unnecessarily

It’s well sha. God Bless Nigeria



Let's factor in air interdiction and CAS. One of the videos released by NAF around February (the battle for Marte I think) featured so many dead and wounded terrorists. About 4 gun trucks were totally destroyed, a few others sustained some degree of damages that would have resulted in casualties on the part of the terrorist. Not to even talk about the terrorists who were trying to hide in a trench that were picked up by the helicopter.
Then at the initial stages of Operation TT bango, we saw large numbers of dead terrorists. We also have casualties from artilleries and mortar strikes. The army might not be performing well against the terrorists but the airforce extends the gap by far. The military doesn't release pictures of dead enemies so we might not know the real extent of the casualties on both sides.
When we consider the poor quality of life the terrorists have and numerous infightings and lack of access to reasonable health care which will definitely lead to losing more of their wounded fighters than NA. Then diseases too, early last year some of the terrorists camps were dealing with cholera outbreaks.
When you consider so many other factors, it will be reasonable to conclude that the terrorists lose far more men than the military.

On average, how many men do we lose when the terrorists attacks garrisons? Even by the terrorist's own accounts, it is usually very low.
NA loses more during raining seasons due to increased success chances of ambushes but apart from this, I don't know any other scenario the army loses soldiers more than 10 per attack.
Check Tomasz thread for the terrorists account of the battles. In many of the attacks on army bases, the terrorists claim they "killed and wounded several soldiers" which Tomasz has interpreted as the terrorists not knowing whether they killed anyone.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 9:01am On May 16, 2021
jpphilips:


Sounds like an unemployed youth dreaming for a job all his life.
if it makes you happy to believe that, have fun with it. One thing is certain: you don't reason rationally.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 9:18am On May 16, 2021
ok. No time to write epistles over a stupid take.
jpphilips:


Have you heard about Mambila militia in Taraba before?
When next you go to Taraba, ask the right questions, don't sit like a Zombie to be fed tales by moonlight, the likes of Danjuma et al were funding the militia to protect the farms against Fulani terrorists & herdsmen that over run their crops.
The militia refused to be coalesced into the state armed forces structure, unlike almost all the vigilantes & support armed groups in every state including the Civillian JTF in Borno.

Mambilla militia succeeded for a while but over zealously set out on a vendetta mission to oust peaceful fulani settlers in the state, military came in with the mandate to disarm both groups, !diots like Danjuma started crying fowl that military took sides with the Fulanis but forgot to tell you that the militia had no evidence that those settlers were responsible for the attacks in the farm to have butchered them.

Do you expect the military to fold her arms & watch a total break down of law & order?
That's the issue in Taraba, they are unhappy their militia was disarmed but won't tell you their militia lost their mandate from protection of farms to attacking settlers.

The same thing is about to happen in the SE, IPOB launched ESN with the pretext they will protect farmlands, instead of remaining in the farms, they are everywhere attacking police, army, vigilantes & Innocent people.
Why should they not be disarmed?

Every group hides behind a security challenge to arm themselves against their perceived enemies then expect the army to fold arms & watch?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blueelf: 10:16am On May 16, 2021
If some of us are going to be talking about the ethnic makeup of the Nigerian Military, we had better back it up with statistics from reliable sources....

Its not wise to allow our sentiments to be guided by emotions
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blueelf: 10:17am On May 16, 2021
For those who love to see combat through the lens of soldiers, visit this reddit page:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blueelf: 10:20am On May 16, 2021
When some monickers begin to tell me not to compare our military with others, I need to remind them that in the last 7 years, our military's budget has been unprecedented. So what are the service chiefs and military high command doing with all the money?

The men on the ground know this and thus they don't feel its fair to give their lives for a country they feel has abandoned them

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 10:21am On May 16, 2021
Stormtrooper11:

Absolutely correct. But they were 2000+. They formed a swimming school at 3rd marine commmando division occupation area. Issac boro's men were even involved in the invasion of mainland portharcourt in 1968!. His men were superb. Infact, they were called special forces. They were our first special forces

3rd marine commandos that performed the first Amphibious landing in Africa, was victorious in operation tiger claw which successfully blockaded the Biafrans from the Sea, was commanded by Benjamin Adekunle the Black Scorpion, he decimated Major Ogbo Orji of the Biafran army & further led an incursion to Bonny & Opobo for a total Water Blockade.

Adekunle was later redeployed to DHQ Lagos when Ojukwu distracted the blockade by making a desperate land incursion to Ore through Benin, his task as he was told was to protect Lagos, Before then he had terribly lost in the first battle of Owerri (the last capital of Biafra), Operation OAU where his men were brutally crushed by Kalu & Joe Achuzie, two formidable Biafran commanders.

two years later, command of the 3rd marine commandos went to Olusegun Obasanjo who returned to Owerri in the final days of the war & dealt a severe blow on Kalu & Achuzie leading to the surrender of the Biafran forces by their 2nd in Command Gen. Affiong, understandably because the Coward Ojukwu had taken to his heels through Uli improvised airport.

Ardent historians of the Nigerian civil war unanimously agree the 3rd marine commando was the Bulwark of the Nigerian federal forces.

There was no time Adaka boro commanded the 3rd marine commando, never!!

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blueelf: 10:21am On May 16, 2021
See movement and coordination

This isn't about hardware, its result of the right training curriculum


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCVzwIa5EOw

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 10:29am On May 16, 2021
Blueelf:
When some monickers begin to tell me not to compare our military with others, I need to remind them that in the last 7 years, our military's budget has been unprecedented. So what are the service chiefs and military high command doing with all the money?

The men on the ground know this and thus they don't feel its fair to give their lives for a country they feel has abandoned them

The NCOs ain’t willing to fight. They all believe this war isn’t coming to an end due to some Bosses at the top.

Like they’ll all say “Baba let me do my time and find my way”

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:38am On May 16, 2021
Blueelf:
If some of us are going to be talking about the ethnic makeup of the Nigerian Military, we had better back it up with statistics from reliable sources....

Its not wise to allow our sentiments to be guided by emotions

No emotions involved, it is a known fact that every honest soldier or family member of soldiers would tell you. It is so well known that northerners even boast of it.

Statistics from a reliableble source ? Get the f out of here...

Borno youth being rushed into the army without competing with the rest of the country, do you need "statistics from a reliable source" to see that ?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blueelf: 10:40am On May 16, 2021
truthshots3:


No emotions involved, it is a known fact that every honest soldier or family member of soldiers would tell you. It is so well known that northerners even boast of it.

Statistics from a reliableble source ? Get the f out of here...

Now who's being emotional....
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:43am On May 16, 2021
Blueelf:


Now who's being emotional....
Weird question, you guys love to use the expression "being emotional". But I don't think most of you even know the meaning.
I am discussing facts, you chose to be ignorant on purpose. How old are you ? I would guess you are a teenager.

The age at which you are not smarter than a 13 year old kid but believe you are smarter than professors.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blueelf: 10:46am On May 16, 2021
truthshots3:

Weird question, you guys love to use the expression "being emotional". But I don't think most of you even know the meaning.
I am discussing facts, you chose to be ignorant on purpose. How old are you ? I would guess you are a teenager.

The age at which you are not smarter than a 13 year old kid but believe you are smarter than professors.

He resorts to insults....

I ask again, now who's being emotional

Say the above without tearing up your retinas next time.... grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:47am On May 16, 2021
Blueelf:


He resorts to insults....

I ask again, now who's being emotional

Say the above without tearing up your retinas next time.... grin grin grin grin grin

There is no insult in my comment, look we are of different generations, I don't do the trolling thing your generation loves so much.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blueelf: 10:50am On May 16, 2021
truthshots3:


There is no insult in my comment, look we are of different generations, I don't do the trolling thing your generation loves so much.

How do you nknow my generation??

Who resorted to insults on a simple statement directed to everyone on this thread cheesy cheesy

No one came at me with insults except you...It speaks a lot about your age or upbringing; can't really tell betwixt the two
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:55am On May 16, 2021
Blueelf:


How do you nknow my generation??

Who resorted to insults on a simple statement directed to everyone on this thread cheesy cheesy

No one came at me with insults except you...It speaks a lot about your age or upbringing; can't really tell betwixt the two

You are entitled to your opinion.

Pointers:
Your emojis show your age.
The way you reason shows your age (maths teachers easily recognise these things)

I have been at that age and reasoned the same way as you before, I have made the same inadequate statements as you before...I was once at your age and level...

You will understand what I am saying in the future, especially if you have kids and watch them do the same stupid stuff you used to do.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 11:32am On May 16, 2021
SamuelAnyawu:


Bro’s I don’t argue on this at all.

Where are we killing the Terrorists? In our ducking FOBs and Supercamps?

We are conducting ambushes? Wulgo, Kirenowa, Logomani?

We are attacking their locations?

I don’t bring emotions into my thinking I’m a Rugged Dude. I’m saying what the real scores ongoing here.

Baba boys Dey go down unnecessarily

It’s well sha. God Bless Nigeria



You're right on the part of not engaging in more offensive, we should have a strike force tasked with the purpose of conducting operations throughout the year.

But to say casualties are competing is an outright exaggeration.

Since 2011 to 2020, we've lost about 3000+ soldiers, yeah that's alot but it's far compared to 21,000+ losses on BH side. That's a far difference and shows nothing like competition.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 12:43pm On May 16, 2021
Stormtrooper11:

1st division was 50% hausa extraction. 2nd and 3rd division were really mixed. [/b]Infact majority of Nigerian army recruits during the war were from benue and the minority tribes[b]
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 2:02pm On May 16, 2021
I saw some Military trucks with NBLC written on it. What’s the meaning
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 2:13pm On May 16, 2021
Blueelf:
When some monickers begin to tell me not to compare our military with others, I need to remind them that in the last 7 years, our military's budget has been unprecedented. So what are the service chiefs and military high command doing with all the money?

The men on the ground know this and thus they don't feel its fair to give their lives for a country they feel has abandoned them
Unprecedentedly high or low?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Federickson02: 2:37pm On May 16, 2021
Odunayaw:
If you're asking this it must mean you have zero idea on what training is like in the Army. So what chest have you been using to chide them?

Anyway, there's a documentary of how life is for fresh recruits and NDA cadets on YouTube. If you truly want to rid yourself of ignorance, you can find it

Heyy, are you a cadet?
Im preparing to enroll for the NDA this year. Will I survive in the academy? I'm nowhere near the strongest teenagers out there. Which means, I'm average smiley
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 2:43pm On May 16, 2021
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Watch out for an interesting documentary, titled “Nigerian Air Force @ 57: Renewed Vigour,” which will be aired on NTA (Available on DSTV Channel 251) and TVC (Channel 418 on DSTV) as follows:

NTA - Monday, 17 May 2021, from 5.30 to 6.00pm.

TVC - Wednesday, 19 May 2021, from 9.00 to 9.30pm.

The documentary highlights the progress the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) has made over the past 57 years, with particular focus on the giant strides recorded under the current NAF leadership.

Thank you for your continued interest in the NAF

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blueelf: 3:08pm On May 16, 2021
Odunayaw:
Unprecedentedly high or low?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blueelf: 3:09pm On May 16, 2021


You are entitled to your opinion.

Pointers:
Your emojis show your age.
The way you reason shows your age (maths teachers easily recognise these things)

I have been at that age and reasoned the same way as you before, I have made the same inadequate statements as you before...I was once at your age and level...

You will understand what I am saying in the future, especially if you have kids and watch them do the same stupid stuff you used to do.


My emoji's show I'm not taking this as serious as you are

Sorry bro, emotional outbursts would take you nowhere

Enough tango....goodbye

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 3:10pm On May 16, 2021
Federickson02:


Heyy, are you a cadet?
Im preparing to enroll for the NDA this year. Will I survive in the academy? I'm nowhere near the strongest teenagers out there. Which means, I'm average smiley
No I'm not a cadet. I was an aspirant not too far in the past.

Yeah, you would survive and thrive. Military training is more about mental toughness than physical toughness. In fact the muscular friends I had all dashed out before they could finish their first year. I wish you luck

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