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Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 5:31pm On May 10, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker:This is mere common sense. How does it apply to this thread? |
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Dtruthspeaker: 5:37pm On May 10, 2021 |
OtemAtum: Shoo! See why I say you are must be of unsound mind? How can you have asked a question and then I answered and then it is now you remembered that it did not apply to your filthy thread? I bounce! |
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 5:40pm On May 10, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: You made a quote earlier, it doesn't come from your holy book. I asked you to make a quote that comes from your holy book before we can talk at all. Then you make a quote from your holy book and I commented that it is a mere common sense and then I asked how t applies to the thread, then you are suddenly surprised? What's the surprise for |
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by AvalonSpace(m): 9:16pm On May 10, 2021 |
There's nothing that will make me not to worship Jesus Christ, The Son of The Living God. None of these occultic preachings will move a hair on my body. I'm created to worship Him. I'm here on appreciate His death on the cross. He died in my stead. So, rant your fallacy the way you like. You won't change me! |
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by KnownUnknown: 9:32pm On May 10, 2021 |
OtemAtum: The earliest written form of the Germanic word God comes from the 6th-century Christian Codex Argenteus. The English word itself is derived from the Proto-Germanic * ǥuđan. [12] The Germanic words for God were originally neuter—applying to both genders—but during the process of the Christianization of the Germanic peoples from their indigenous Germanic paganism, the words became a masculine syntactic form.[13] In the English language, capitalization is used for names by which a god is known, including 'God'.[14] Consequently, the capitalized form of god is not used for multiple gods (polytheism) or when used to refer to the generic idea of a deity.[15][16] The English word God and its counterparts in other languages are normally used for any and all conceptions and, in spite of significant differences between religions, the term remains an English translation common to all. The same holds for Hebrew El, but in Judaism, God is also given a proper name, the tetragrammaton YHWH, in origin possibly the name of an Edomite or Midianite deity, Yahweh. In many English translations of the Bible, when the word LORD is in all capitals, it signifies that the word represents the tetragrammaton.[17] |
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 5:07pm On May 11, 2021 |
AvalonSpace:The thread didn't say you mustn't worship your fictitious character, rather it gives reasons why it is senseless to worship fictions like Jesus and created beings like Jehovah. God Almighty, the Totality of Existence did not at any time make the universe for the purpose of worship, only the ignorance will enjoy worshipping co-creatures like themselves. |
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by oaroloye(m): 6:16am On May 16, 2021 |
MISHIGAS! oaroloye: OtemAtum: YOU ARE A NOT-VERY INTELLIGENT DECEIVER, MERELY OUT TO MISLEAD THOSE WHO ARE EVEN MORE IGNORANT THAN YOURSELF. It is stupid to say "look around," when the only sentient beings most Humans can perceive are other Human Beings! The Beings that demand Worship are imperceptible to most people. By the turn of the 20th Century, Oyinbo Science finally caught up to The Biblical assertion that Average (i.e. Sinful) Man uses no more than 10% of their God-given abilities. It was Scientifically proven that appropriate training during one's formative years could give give one up to 100% Conscious Use of one's Mind, by Harvard Psychologist BORIS SIDIS and Educator WILLIAM JAMES. ILLUMINATI PROPAGANDA gave out that this option would have an ultimately negative outcome for such an "optimized" person. [See: THE PRODIGY: The Biography of William James Sidis- America's Greatest Child Prodigy, by Amy Wallace. NO TEARS FOR ALGERON, by Daniel Keyes. PHENOMENON, starring John Travolta. LIMITLESS, starring Bradley Cooper and Robert deNiro (2011). LIMITLESS, starring Jake Dorman, and Colin Salmon (2015).] The Bible warned that seeking such optimization without God would indeed lead to a negative outcome since nearly 2,000 years ago. But the Oyinbos are loath to publicize anything that proves that The Bible knew anything before their Scientists. Zino990: MAN WAS CREATED BY GOD IN HIS IMAGE FOR ONE SPECIFIC PURPOSE. . GENESIS 1:26-28. 26. And God Said, "Let us make Man in Our Image, after Our Likeness: and let them have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea, and over the Fowl of the Air, and over the Cattle, and over all the Earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the Earth." 27. So God created Man in His Own Image, in The Image of God created He him; male and female created He them. 28. And God Blessed them, and God Said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the Earth, and subdue It: and have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea, and over the Fowl of the Air, and over every Living Thing that moveth upon the Earth." IT IS IGNORANCE TO CALL MAN "A SPIRITUAL BEING," AS IF OTHER CREATURES WERE SOMETHING ELSE. Physicality is like the tip of an iceberg that one can see, which is supported by a bulk about ten times bigger. Everything that exists has a Spiritual Component, or else It wouldn't exist at all. There is no such thing as a Physical Object or Entity that does not have an underlying Spiritual Source that makes It manifest Spiritually. There are therefore four means of handling the Physical Universe: (1) AS-IS-NESS: Spontaneous Creation/Annihilation. (2) ALTER-IS-NESS:Transformation of an existing Creation that makes It persist. (3) IS-NESS: Harmonious management of Existence, called, when Agreed-Upon, "Reality." (4) NOT-IS-NESS: The management of IS-NESS by reducing Its condition through Brute Force. It always causes more problems than It solves, and is Spiritually counterproductive. [See: SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: The Book of Basics, by L. Ron Hubbard.] This Knowledge was ripped-off from The Bible, and other mirroring Spiritual Systems. OtemAtum: IN ORDER TO DECEIVE READERS, YOU CAREFULLY REFRAIN FROM DEFINING THE KEY TERM "WORSHIP." Without doing that, you are communicating nothing but bullshit. No one can possibly know what you mean by "worship," and it is impossible for you to know that your readers know what you mean by "worship." Your purpose is therefore to sow confusion and doubt. . MATTHEW 15:1-20. THEN came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, 2. "Why do thy Disciples transgress the Tradition of the Elders? For they wash not their hands when they eat bread." 3. But he answered and Said unto them, "Why do ye also transgress The Commandment of God by your Tradition? 4. "For God Commanded, Saying, 'HONOUR THY FATHER AND MOTHER: AND, HE THAT CURSETH FATHER OR MOTHER LET HIM DIE THE DEATH.' 5. "But ye say, 'WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY TO HIS FATHER OR MOTHER, "IT IS A GIFT, BY WHATSOEVER THOU MIGHTEST BE PROFITED BY ME;" 6. 'AND HONOUR NOT HIS FATHER OR HIS MOTHER, HE SHALL BE FREE.' Thus have ye made The Commandment of God of none effect by your Tradition. 7. "Ye Hypocrites, well did Esaias Prophesy of you, saying, 8. 'THIS PEOPLE DRAWETH NIGH UNTO ME WITH THEIR MOUTH, AND HONOURETH ME WITH THEIR LIPS; BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME. 9. 'BUT IN VAIN THEY DO WORSHIP ME, TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.' " 10. And he Called the multitude, and Said unto them, "Hear, and understand: 11. "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man." 12. Then came his Disciples, and said unto him, "Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this Saying?" 13. But he Answered and Said, "Every plant, which my Heavenly Father hath not Planted, shall be rooted up. 14. "Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." 15. Then answered Peter and said unto him, "Declare unto us this Parable." 16. And Jesus Said, "Are ye also yet without understanding? 17. "Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? 18. "But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. 19. "For out of the heart proceed Evil Thoughts, Murders, Adulteries, Fornications, Thefts, False Witness, Blasphemies: 20. These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man." THERE IS GOOD, RIGHTEOUS, AND USEFUL WORSHIP, AND EVIL, UNRIGHTEOUS, AND USELESS WORSHIP. Anyone failing to define worship is misleading people. . EXODUS 21:1-11. "Now these are the Judgments Which thou shalt set before them. 2. "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years He shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. 3. "If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if He were married, then his wife shall go out with him. 4. "If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and He shall go out by himself. 5. "And if the servant shall plainly say, "I LOVE MY MASTER, MY WIFE, AND MY CHILDREN; I WILL NOT GO OUT FREE:" 6. "Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and He shall serve him for ever. 7. "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do. 8. "If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing He hath dealt deceitfully with her. 9. "And if He have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters. 10. "If he take him another wife her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish. 11. "And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money." GOD CREATED THE SEVEN HEAVENS AND THE EARTH UNIVERSE TO OPERATE ACCORDING TO CONSISTENT, UNBREAKABLE PRINCIPLES- THE CHIEF OF WHICH IS THE MASTER/SLAVE RELATIONSHIP. Ignorant and stupid people condemn Yahweh God for institutionalizing Slavery in His Law. Asking Atheists and Unbelievers what God should have Commanded instead, has never drawn a positive response. They always flee, in my experience, without even suggesting anything better than the Master/Slave Law, nor admitting that they were wrong. THERE ARE FOUR SPIRITUAL STATES WITHIN A REALM: (4) HOLINESS. (3) RIGHTEOUSNESS. (2) FILTHINESS. (1) UNJUSTNESS. There is no such thing as an object or entity that does not fall into one of these categories of Spiritual Energy. Spiritual Energy is the ability to perform Spiritual Work. It is supplied freely from the Heavenly Realms, simply by being born, and It is accumulated by using It to fulfill the Commandments to the Species a manifestation of The Creator imprints on every creature born, when it is connected with a Heavenly "LifeLine" consisting of inflowing packets of Spiritual Energy, that make every living creature alive. [See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.] ALL OBJECTS AND ENTITIES HAVE UNIQUE SPIRITUAL VIBRATIONS. Any one that imposes Its vibrations on another is MASTER, while the one being made to vibrate is SLAVE. SLAVES OBEY MASTERS- AND NOT VICE-VERSA. The entirety of a Master's vibrations are imprinted on their Slaves, besides the particular vibration being emphasized. For instance, if a Master orders a Slave to, say, cook his dinner- the Carnal Slave he is not telling him to read the list of every person he has ever had dinner with in his entire life- but to the Spiritual Slave, IT IS JUST AS IF THEIR MASTER HANDED THEM THEIR DIARY! TOTAL RECALL enables the RETRIEVAL of directly expressed vibrational patterns of a Master. (In SCIENTOLOGY, this is called a COUNTER-EFFORT.) EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION enables the retrieval of the entirety of the indirectly-expressed vibrations of a Master. (The acceptance of COUNTER-EFFORTS for one's personal use is called SELF-DETERMINISM.) At some point, the SELF-DETERMINED SLAVE'S vibrations exactly match those of their MASTER- denoting EQUALITY with said Master. At which point SUBORDINATION is no longer applicable. THE SLAVE HAS ACHIEVED EQUALITY WITH THEIR MASTER: WHICH IS FREEDOM. Correct Worship is therefore a SELF-DETERMINED SUBMISSION to a POSTULATED DEITY, with a view to INTEGRATING their ACTIVE VIBRATIONS, in order to perceive ALL of their vibrations. If a Deity does not actually exist, there are no COUNTER-EFFORTS to process. An IMAGINARY Deity still exists- at the very least in the thoughts of the person who imagined It. Any Counter-Effort processed can only lead back to the person who imagined the Fake Deity. ESP will ultimately reveal who that was. When a charlatan Spiritual Master hijacks the Counter-Efforts of another Source. and passes them off as his own production, ESP will reveal the TRUE Source. Attempts have been made to claim that the Commandments and Precepts of Yahweh God came from KEMETIAN Polytheistic Spirituality. . LUKE 16:1-15. AND he Said also unto his Disciples, "There was a certain rich man, which had a steward; and the same was accused unto him that he had wasted his goods. 2. "And he called him, and said unto him, 'HOW IS IT THAT I HEAR THIS OF THEE? GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF THY STEWARDSHIP; FOR THOU MAYEST BE NO LONGER STEWARD.' 3. "Then the steward said within himself, 'WHAT SHALL I DO? FOR MY LORD TAKETH AWAY FROM ME THE STEWARDSHIP: I CANNOT DIG, TO BEG I AM ASHAMED. 4. 'I AM RESOLVED WHAT TO DO, THAT, WHEN I AM PUT OUT OF THE STEWARDSHIP, THEY MAY RECEIVE ME INTO THEIR HOUSES.' 5. "So he called every one of his lord's debtors unto him, and said unto the first, 'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU UNTO MY LORD?' 6. "And he said, 'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF OIL.' And he said unto him, 'TAKE THY BILL, AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY, AND WRITE FIFTY.' 7. "Then said he to another, 'AND HOW MUCH OWEST THOU?' And he said, 'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF WHEAT.' And he said unto him, 'TAKE THY BILL, AND WRITE FOURSCORE.' 8. "And the lord commended the Unjust Steward, because he had done wisely: for the Children of this World are in their Generation wiser than the Children of Light. 9. "And I Say unto you, 'MAKE TO YOURSELVES FRIENDS OF THE MAMMON OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS; THAT, WHEN YE FAIL, THEY MAY RECIEVE YOU INTO EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.' 10. "He that is Faithful in that which is Least is Faithful also in Much: and he that is Unjust in the Least is Unjust also in Much. 11. "If therefore ye have not been Faithful in the Unrighteous Mammon, who will commit to your trust The True Riches? 12. "And if ye have not been Faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own? 13. "No Servant can serve two Masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and Mammon." 14. And the Pharisees also, who were Covetous, heard all these things, and they derided him. 15. And he Said unto them, "Ye are they which justify yourselves before Men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is Highly Esteemed amongst Men is Abomination in The Sight of God." THE FALSE GODS- OR THOSE WHO IMAGINED THEM- WERE CORRUPTED SERVANTS OF GOD WHO WERE EXPEL LED FROM HIS SERVICE- WHO THEN MADE THEIR LIVING BY PRETENDING TO HAVE AUTHORITY TO REDUCE THE COMMANDMENT-OBLIGATION OF WORSHIPPERS. oaroloye: THE FIRST STEP IN ATTAINING EVERLASTING LIFE- THE UNLIMITED FLOW OF SPIRITUAL ENERGY AFTER THE 5th TALENT OF POWER- IS THE 1st TALENT OF POWER: TOTAL RECALL. Any TRUE WORSHIP must begin with THAT Attainment- or it is a waste of time. Nobody: Heartlessbanker: SHILLS WILL LIE ABOUT THEIR EMPLOYER: THE ILLUMINATI. To prevent those who know nothing about it from learning anything, and to discredit and gaslight those who do know something. |
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 10:30am On May 16, 2021 |
Oaroloye, what's your point? |
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Ahasco(m): 3:18pm On May 16, 2021 |
Oaroloye you are not making any point here, you are only confusing yourself by using a book that is filled with lies and in your mind you think the otherwise. If supposing you were trying to make some sense without referring to the book of lies I would have tried to understand your point but you messed it all up by culling your excerpts from that evil book of lie used to hypnotize many ignorant ones |
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by oaroloye(m): 12:41am On May 17, 2021 |
OtemAtum: IT MAKES SENSE TO WORSHIP YAHWEH GOD, BECAUSE HE WILL GUIDE US AND PROTECT US IN ATTAINING EVERLASTING LIFE. Ahasco: Ahasco: THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT YOU READ A SINGLE THING IN ANY OF MY POSTS. In my last Post I gave as references: 7 Scriptural Passages. 6 Books- non-Bible-related. 1 Booklet- also non-Bible related. 3 Movies. 1 Seasonal Video. 1 Taped Lecture Series. I fully explained what proper worship is, and what It does. Which no one else has ever explained publicly. That you didn't read my Post explains why you could say nothing about any of them. Newspapers are riddled with lies, and if someone quotes parts of one, that does not mean that they subscribe to the entire tabloid. The Bible was Man's idea, not God's Idea: He was not consulted when The Bible was compiled. It is, however, excellent as a guide to develop THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER- which are the ONLY thing worth talking about. . THE WAY OF THE WARRIOR. 1. CONTROL; 2. DISCIPLINE; 3. FORBEARANCE; 4. TIMING; 5. WILL; 6. COMPLIANCE. [See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.] If you do not have these attributes, you cannot learn from The Bible- nor any other Spiritual System. None of what you call "lies" in The Bible is of any importance. Only THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER are important. These are not for people who cannot separate the important from the unimportant. They are not for people who are easily distracted by things that are none of their damn business. Ahasco: ATHEISM IS CAUSED BY A MENTAL DISEASE CALLED ATTENTION-DEFICIT DISORDER. This is characterized by the inability to focus on sequential logical steps. I doubt that someone like yourself has the Attention-Span sufficient to assimilate more than one "TWEET" at a time. I am talking about the Fundamentals of Existence Itself- somewhat beyond "PETER AND JANE," or "SESAME STREET." If you do not have PATIENCE, you cannot learn anything from me. OtemAtum: Dtruthspeaker: THE OP LACKS THE INTELLIGENCE AND INTELLECT TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN GOOD WORSHIP AND BAD WORSHIP. He has not proven that he even knows what worship is. OtemAtum: YOU LACK THE INTELLIGENCE AND INTELLECT TO KNOW WHAT WORSHIP IS. . AMOS 3:3. 3. "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" MOST RELIGION IS BROKEN TECHNOLOGY: ONLY THE Y'SRAELITES HAD CORRECT RELIGION- OTHERS HAD FRAGMENTATED FRANKENSTEIN-MONSTER PATCHED-UP SYSTEMS- MADE OF WORKING AND UNWORKING PARTS. There was a Kung Fu film about a Fighter who murdered his brother, in front of his son, and had to raise his nephew as his own son, even though he swore that he would kill him one day, to avenge his father. Since his uncle couldn't very well train him to kill him one day, the vengeful nephew spied on him when he trained, and copied everything he saw him do in exercises. The funniest part of the film was where he was doing his breathing and meditation exercises, and was bitten by a fly on his right cheek, so he I interrupted his exercise to swat the fly. The nephew seated in his own pose far behind him, immediatelys own right cheek- thinking that it was part of the exercise! The uncle was ruefully satisfied that at least, he was following his techniques. MANY RELIGIONS CONTAIN BLINDLY-COPIED FACE-SLAPS- BECAUSE THE COPIERS DID NOT KNOW THEY WERE NOT PART OF THE SYSTEM. Copycats saw Masters bowing down to an object, and JUST ASSUMED that the Masters we're WORSHIPPING the objects. They could not ask the Master what he was really doing- or maybe he wouldn't tell them- so IDOLATRY became a THING. People came to think that bowing to an "idol" was a Religion. It is, NOW- but I'd like to think that there was a time when people knew better. When a race of Savages overthrew a Civilized Religious Empire, they sometimes hijacked their gods, and tried to hijack their Religion, too. The AZTECS and the ROMANS are examples of that. Sometimes it helped when the Religion was written down. Sometimes it didn't. Following the Scriptures literally- without interpretation by Priests or Prophets with FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE of the Religion leads to stupidities like bowing to an IDOL, as if the IDOL had POWER. Maybe Idols DO- but Believing that, and actually tapping that Power is like the difference between Lightening Bugs and Lightning. At the start of a Battle the High Priest of the Highjacked Idol comes out: 100,000 of them have bowed 1,000 times to the Highjacked Idol. That's a lot of bows. "Mighty Idol- SMITE OUR ENEMIES!!!" The 500,000 foes know that they are bleeped: this is the Idol of the god of LIGHTNING! Something must happen! A little Lightening Bug comes out of somewhere, and flies between the two armies, and exits stage left. This does not end well for the 100,000... THAT IS WHAT YOU GET, WHEN YOU DON'T GET THE WHOLE MANUAL! OtemAtum: "JEHOVAH" IS NOT A CREATURE: THAT IS THE NAME THE OYINBOS GAVE HIM- BUT HIS TEACHINGS PROVE THAT HE IS THE CREATOR, AND NOT A CREATED BEING. It takes at least SEVEN YEARS to understand The Bible. Don't tell ME that YOU ever put in that work. . THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25) (1) TOTAL RECALL. (2) EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION. (3) TELEKINESIS. (4) TELEPORTATION. (5) TRANSLATION. (6-10) EVERLASTING LIFE. This is what YAHWEH GOD has consistently taught through The Bible. Nothing else in life is important. Other gods do not teach the attainment of EVERLASTING LIFE- so they are not important. THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD ARE KEYS TO UNLOCKING EVERLASTING LIFE. False Religions and False Spiritual Systems say otherwise. Why waste your time with them? |
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Ahasco(m): 8:52pm On May 17, 2021 |
oaroloye: As far as I'm concerned, you are still confused. You know why? The moment you are able to decipher truth from lie only then can you justifiably explain what you believe distinctly without any contradictions. Kapish! |
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 2:06pm On Aug 29, 2021 |
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