obailala:
Simply stop judging what you dont know.

You haven't answered my question.

When did prof WS condemn these blood thirsty mongrels?

rhames:




When did prof WS condemn these blood thirsty mongrels?

Dont worry, you win! He supports their activities; that's why he withdrew Pyrates from higher institutions.

SILVERLINES:


Sail on with the forgone terrors

Of course.


Terrors! Wonderful.

That's a direct ticket to hell fire

BSdetector:
Any society formed.....first rule: bar igbos from joining. They infect everything they're part of....same thing happened with ogboni. But most people won't learn or understand.

What happened in ogboni?

pimper24:


There was advert in the dailies for your information. It was not secret in any way. Armed policemen were present at the induction et al. Haba, Would they do such and no one was coming forward to challenge them or tell the public that they were fake?
I doubt it seriously.

https://www.nas-int.org/about-nas/membership
This same membership sight was still there.
My advise remains the same.

I still maintain that you were scammed ...
The forms are made open on the website of the Pyrates when it's time for admissions and are never for sale...
The Real Pyrates confraternity is not in the business of placing adverts for membership on the dailies ...
However you are free to believe what you wish ...
Best of luck brother ...and thank God you didn't fall prey to an imposter organisation ...

Acheron:

NAS left the campuses since 1984. The association has written to the police, Vice-Chancellors and to the general public on numerous occasions that anybody caught parading himself as Pyrate in any Nigerian university should be arrested and prosecuted. Those guys on campuses are mimics (illegals) and have no association whatsoever with the one and only true confraternity - Pyrates Confraternity.

Visit www.nas-int.org for more information.

...... Sir, most of these cult groups are no longer on campus but on the streets..... Many of those cultists in ikorodu, are they students? No....... Most of our artists that are cultists, are they students? No..... Go to upper sokponba in Benin, a good number of the deadly cultists there have never seen the walls of a university....... These guys are on the streets bro....... And many of them on the streets are the ones that carry out the hits on campuses whenever there's a cult war..... I am speaking from experience being an alumni of university of Benin, one of the most notorious schools in Nigeria known for cult related activities..... One that was caught back then in 2008 after he participated in the beheading of a rival cultist was a welder bro..... A welder who dropped out of school in jss3........ Believe me, there are more cultists on the streets than our campuses

johnmartus:
Stop arguing with yourself you are just embaracing yourself as well.What do you mean by pyrate you just define what it mean to us which the membershas their own objective and mission. How do you define BLM they said to defend black people but today they are killing the same black they are defending.

Bros, You are talking Rubbish.


Kindly educate yourself with the link below
https://naijagists.com/strongest-most-deadly-confraternities-nigeria-history/

1MCN:
Shouldn't Soyinka overgrow this cultism at this age and stage?

Lol.

You refer to Soyinka as a cultist in the same sense as we have cultists now?

You dey okay so?

rhames:




When did prof WS condemn these blood thirsty mongrels?

naptu2:


I listened to a BBC interview a long time ago (decades ago), in which Professor Soyinka addressed this issue. The interviewer called these organisations "cults" and Professor Soyinka said that they are not cults, they are youth gangs. He explained that it was because of these youth gangs that he ordered that the Pyrates Fraternity should cease existing on university campuses. He blamed the government for allowing these youth gangs to exist and he even hinted at the fact that a lot of the members are children of people in government and that's why the government had not done anything about them. He condemned the barbaric acts that were committed by these youth gangs.

That was on the BBC World Service Radio a long time ago.

naptu2:
The BBC interview that I wrote about occurred before this, but he repeated some of the things that he said in that interview.


This is the Oputa Panel in 2001 or thereabouts. Professor Soyinka talked about the Pyrates Fraternity and the other groups, which he said are not fraternities but Campus Killer Cults (which he called KKK).

He talked about what led to the creation of the KKK and also, as he did in the BBC interview, he said that he believes that most members of those killer organisations are children of the elite.

He completely dissociates the Pyrates from those killer organisations.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU69Fh-B1SA

naptu2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=getCPIvnBmw

naptu2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZd479iVVR8

naptu2:


10:59

They say they are fraternities, but I say that is not what fraternities are about.


On the contrary, the Pyrates voluntarily withdrew from the universities about 12 years ago because they were getting confused with those organisations.

naptu2:
He also repeated what he said in the BBC interview about vice chancellors using those murderous organisations to intimidate and control people on campus.

naptu2:
It's important for me to state here that there have been around the country many so-called initiations into Pyrates Confraternity that have. . .We unmasked, for example, a syndicate that were charging people for initiation into the Pyrates Confraternity into a non-existent deck, as we would say.

16:14 mark in the video.

I've only highlighted a few of the things that he said, but you should watch the video yourself and see how he condemned them. He called members of the killer organisations criminals. He said that they are mostly children of the elite who have been spoiled and that most of their parents are government officials who have also committed criminal acts with impunity and that's probably where the children learnt it from. He said that the Pyrates had voluntarily withdrawn from university campuses a long time ago because people were confusing them with the killer groups and he also talked about people that were charging for initiation into fake Pyrates Confraternity. He talked about the names they adopted in the confraternity, etc.

One of the lawyers asked him if he would allow his children to join the Pyrates and he said that his son is a member of the Zero Meridian (London) branch of the Pyrates.


He talked about the charitable causes that the Pyrates have taken up, including blood donations, adopting motherless babies, fighting against drug abuse, etc.

cc. Generalwo, Etrange

ebukajay184:
Wole Soyinka and other members of the "Pyrates Confraternity (PC) at a member, Nathaniel Oyelola’s, funeral in Ibadan on 28 May 2021.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rngms7jckDE

This evil genius , at his age is leading youths into darkness when his mates are busy leadership the next generation into light. A case of CURSED BLESSING

generalwo:
... So the picture I just attached, if it's a cult related killing involving pyrates confraternity, then what is it?

I understand where you are coming from now,Lol
And you are getting it all wrong, the cultists and killers calling themselves pyrates are not the same as the Seadogs. Totally different in everything and how they operate or what they believe.
Don't be confused, the Pyrate Confra founded by Soyinka and what these secondary school boys and undergraduates are totally not the same.

Men of like minds
Sayle to treasure island

Continue to sail with the forgone terrors as you sailed on earth.

teepain:


Look at it this way. There are many so called organisations today who call themselves churches and they do everything that run contrary to what the church stands for, would you blame the founder of the original church for the condemnable activities of those ignoble organisations.

One love bro.. anyone still arguing after this simplified explanation is an idiot

BSdetector:
Any society formed.....first rule: bar igbos from joining. They infect everything they're part of....same thing happened with ogboni. But most people won't learn or understand.

Bro stop saying what u dont know, pyrate confraternity is against tribalism.

generalwo:
...... Sir, most of these cult groups are no longer on campus but on the streets..... Many of those cultists in ikorodu, are they students? No....... Most of our artists that are cultists, are they students? No..... Go to upper sokponba in Benin, a good number of the deadly cultists there have never seen the walls of a university....... These guys are on the streets bro....... And many of them on the streets are the ones that carry out the hits on campuses whenever there's a cult war..... I am speaking from experience being an alumni of university of Benin, one of the most notorious schools in Nigeria known for cult related activities..... One that was caught back then in 2008 after he participated in the beheading of a rival cultist was a welder bro..... A welder who dropped out of school in jss3........ Believe me, there are more cultists on the streets than our campuses

I have no business with other groups. NAS is not on campuses. NAS does not recruit students. NAS has no affiliation with those mimics parading themselves as pyrates on campuses. NAS has written severally to school VCs distancing themselves from campus groups claiming to be pyrates. What else do you want NAS to do?

NAS is bigger than you think and instead of arguing like an unintelligible person, take your phone and do some research yourself. Read and enlighten yourself and if you won’t, just stop painting NAS with the same “cultic” brush. Desist from lumping NAS with pseudo-frats. NAS is the one and true confraternity recognized by law. Take it or take it.

eastOFwest:


. No cult has originated in Igbo land. None.
Thank you

pimper24:


There was advert in the dailies for your information. It was not secret in any way. Armed policemen were present at the induction et al. Haba, Would they do such and no one was coming forward to challenge them or tell the public that they were fake?
I doubt it seriously.

https://www.nas-int.org/about-nas/membership
This same membership sight was still there.
My advise remains the same.

It’s either you are nothing but a pathetic liar or you most certainly fell into the hands of the mimics but I’d go with the former.

Blackdisciple:



Bros stop inciting murderers ehh.

How exactly did I incite murderers here? I gave an analogy to explain why we shouldn't blame the founder of an ideology for the crimes that others chose to commit.

Those that go about carrying weapons and commiting violent crimes should be judged by their actions.

Some accountants use their knowledge to cook books and committing fraud, why don't you blame the people who started the accounting profession?

Acheron:

It’s either you are nothing but a pathetic liar or you most certainly fell into the hands of the mimics but I’d go with the former.

Everyone tries to be apologists, both those that know the facts and those that don't. Real big problem in this part of the world.

The website is there before the eyes of the public. What makes it different from an advertorial in the dailies?
Or you have issues with the part where said the admission process was unruly.

This is a registered organization and their aims are laid bare before the world but amenable to abuse like any other organisation in Nigeria including the church. What is pa-tho-lo-gical liar there as if you are the founder. Very funny

Acheron:

I have no business with other groups. NAS is not on campuses. NAS does not recruit students. NAS has no affiliation with those mimics parading themselves as pyrates on campuses. NAS has written severally to school VCs distancing themselves from campus groups claiming to be pyrates. What else do you want NAS to do?

NAS is bigger than you think and instead of arguing like an unintelligible person, take your phone and do some research yourself. Read and enlighten yourself and if you won’t, just stop painting NAS with the same “cultic” brush. Desist from lumping NAS with pseudo-frats. NAS is the one and true confraternity recognized by law. Take it or take it.

....... Bros na English you dey speak..... Wether Nas or bass or even yansh..... All of them are evil associations as proven by the illegal activities of those who operate with their names....... If they are not in support of those who use their names and logo to commit crimes, then they should join hands with the security forces to fish out and prosecute those who work in their name and with their logo and regalia....i can understand if your defense of them is because you're part of them but it doesn't change the fact that..... To an average Nigerian, a confraternity, be it inside or outside campus is a bad and evil oriented occultic society or gathering

superlanny:

I understand where you are coming from now,Lol
And you are getting it all wrong, the cultists and killers calling themselves pyrates are not the same as the Seadogs. Totally different in everything and how they operate or what they believe.
Don't be confused, the Pyrate Confra founded by Soyinka and what these secondary school boys and undergraduates are totally not the same.

...... Bros.... Wole Soyinka call him own pyrates..... The ones wen dey kill call themselves pyrates..... They wear the same uniform, use the same color and most likely speak the same language/slangs..... So tell me, how do u expect a lay man like me to differentiate both of them? Both the police wen dey collect bribes and the one wen dey honest, no be the same black uniform them dey wear?

pimper24:


Everyone tries to be apologists, both those that know the facts and those that don't. Real big problem in this part of the world.

The website is there before the eyes of the public. What makes it different from an advertorial in the dailies?
Or you have issues with the part where said the admission process was unruly.

This is a registered organization and their aims are laid bare before the world but amenable to abuse like any other organisation in Nigeria including the church. What is pa-tho-lo-gical liar there as if you are the founder. Very funny

NAS intake process is not "amenable" to abuse. There is a procedure and that story deviates from the procedure so it's nothing but hogwash. I know because I know, I am talking from a position of authority that that story is nothing but a figment of your imagination or whoever wrote it. It did not happen.

generalwo:
....... Bros na English you dey speak..... Wether Nas or bass or even yansh..... All of them are evil associations as proven by the illegal activities of those who operate with their names....... If they are not in support of those who use their names and logo to commit crimes, then they should join hands with the security forces to fish out and prosecute those who work in their name and with their logo and regalia....i can understand if your defense of them is because you're part of them but it doesn't change the fact that..... To an average Nigerian, a confraternity, be it inside or outside campus is a bad and evil oriented occultic society or gathering

NAS does the best it can by reporting illegal activities of these guys but the fight is for the universities and the security forces to rid the campuses of these guys. And again, you can go with whatever opinion you have about NAS, doesn't change a thing. NAS don't do image laundry and the last thing the organization worry itself about is anyone's opinion.

Acheron:

NAS intake process is not "amenable" to abuse. There is a procedure and that story deviates from the procedure so it's nothing but hogwash. I know because I know, I am talking from a position of authority that that story is nothing but a figment of your imagination or whoever wrote it. It did not happen.

Tell me the link I posted is fake and doesn't belong to NAS. By the way why have you people not changed the name SeaDogs to something more constructive ?

Lol, this tribalist OP and his threads

Closeted bigot

Acheron:

NAS does the best it can by reporting illegal activities of these guys but the fight is for the universities and the security forces to rid the campuses of these guys. And again, you can go with whatever opinion you have about NAS, doesn't change a thing. NAS don't do image laundry and the last thing the organization worry itself about is anyone's opinion.

..... And I can tell you that such opinions have grave consequences...... Can you go to a region where other cultists reign Supreme and openly declare your membership of Nas abi nos.... There is only one way such things end...... To the lay man, any confraternity in Nigeria is evil and blood thirsty...... Na to serve God win am..... Join Jesus confra today

pimper24:

Tell me the link I posted is fake and doesn't belong to NAS. By the way why have you people not changed the name SeaDogs to something more constructive ?

Mr man, you are not making any sense.

generalwo:
..... And I can tell you that such opinions have grave consequences...... Can you go to a region where other cultists reign Supreme and openly declare your membership of Nas abi nos.... There is only one way such things end...... To the lay man, any confraternity in Nigeria is evil and blood thirsty...... Na to serve God win am..... Join Jesus confra today

You are still making a mistake, young man. NAS has no business with any pseudo-frat. NAS is way beyond that. NAS is the only organization with an open club house in Nigeria, even non-members are allowed entry. If you need the address to their club house in any location, just go to the website. The police and army provide security for them during their programs. NAS is bigger than you think and your opinion is irrelevant.

Acheron:

You are still making a mistake, young man. NAS has no business with any pseudo-frat. NAS is way beyond that. NAS is the only organization with an open club house in Nigeria, even non-members are allowed entry. If you need the address to their club house in any location, just go to the website. The police and army provide security for them during their programs. NAS is bigger than you think and your opinion is irrelevant.

.... Bros I know my opinion is irrelevant but it doesn't fail to convey the fears and thoughts of a lay man that all confraternities in 9ja are the same....

generalwo:
.... Bros I know my opinion is irrelevant but it doesn't fail to convey the fears and thoughts of a lay man that all confraternities in 9ja are the same....

Na una problem be that.

ebukajay184:
Wole Soyinka and other members of the "Pyrates Confraternity (PC) at a member, Nathaniel Oyelola’s, funeral in Ibadan on 28 May 2021.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rngms7jckDE

Ahoi WS