Muyi002:


As per the water, the borehole has been dug and all equipments and materials to install the borehole have been bought. i am just skeptical about installing the pumping machine when i am not ready to move in. also the welder is telling me that it will cost 280k to do iron tank stand (using 3" 5mm thick angle bars) of 15ft height (for two tanks - up and down). na that one fear me o.

Muyi, Muyi, Muyi. How many times I call you?

Do that water stand now!!! make that one commot for ground and buy the pumping machine keep. It will not get cheaper. By June, July and even August prices of building materials no go funny.

I have done 40ft water tower just few years back for 470k. Today it is over one million. So for me, anything that can be completely achieve with available funds, I achieve it straight away and get that off the spreadsheet.

kopell:
ANGLE IRON BEARS KE ? it could be a mistake. May be he mean [ H ] Chanelle, or 3'' 5mm thick wall black round pipe, 3'' 5mm thick wall galvanized pipe is better if you have low budget, because of its corrosion resistant.

my baba, no be mistake o.
all the iron tank stand around na angle bars o. but they are 3" and very thick, usually 5mm. Round pipe for me is a No No.

Civilengineer:
with a due respect sir i think u are taking this professionalism thing a bit too far sir. so what u are basically saying is that a hnd holder shouldn't practice what he studied maybe he should go and do money ritual since he doesn't carry that big name tag to his title? bossman u are an engineer i know that but trust me in structures i don't think u can really go head to head with me even as at 5years ago, i have far gone off to a point i now design for California engineers i ve linked with via upwork and quora, u know what that means right, u have to start studying their design codes, seismic design etc have u even gone into those, or should i send u a design i made for an arab engineer some year back. yet i am not coren certified. all that body does is eat money and eat more money, their conferences are filled with old men sleeping all through the conference lol. in the firm i currently work my ceo will never want to loose me, he dares not i dont even go to office often, i handle big contracts for my self too and they dare not owe me a penny at the month end, thats coz im that good but since i dont carry the coren tag should i stop working and go and start doing yahoo yahoo lol since that one needs no proffesionalism? sir i am not saying professionals shoiuldt be recognized but stop that intimidating talks coz its pointless. i know alot of coren engineers that cant do real design other copy and paste design, we both know the drafting is nothing, the calculation sheet is where the bosses are know. i mean real calculation done manually not those automated ones. my conclusion if u can do those then u are an engineer. EOD!

YOUNG ENGINEER, YOU HAVE RAISED SO MANY MANY ISSUES.. I WILL TRY AND ADDRESS THEM AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE..
I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU COMING FROM.. I AM NOT A TYPE THAT CARRY COREN CERTIFICATION ON THE HEAD. SOME INFORMATION ARE JUST HERE FOR VERIFICATION..

I ALSO APPRECIATE YOUR SELF APPRAISAL AS AN HND GRADUATE...I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THAT.. I HAVE MANY COLLEAGUES WITH HND THAT ARE COREN REGISTERED TODAY.. WE ALL WORK TOGETHER.. THE CLOUD IS BIG ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO FLY.

ON OTHER ISSUES OF BRAGGING OF UPWORK, QUORA, ARABS... YORUBA SAYS... IGBA TO LOMI NINU KIN PARUWO... MEANING A CALABASH THAT HAS ENOUGH WATER IN IT DONT MAKE NOISE... TIMES SHALL TELL

ON COREN THEMSELVES WITH OLD ENGINEERS YOU SEE AT THE ASSEMBLY SLEEPING... JUST ASSUME THEY ARE RESTING... BECAUSE WHAT AN ELDER SEES SITTING DOWN, A YOUNG SHARP CAN STAND ON MOUNTAIN WITHOUT SEEING IT.. GIVE THEM THEIR RESPECT...

LASTLY... I APPRECIATE YOUR CONTRIBUTION..

APPRECIATES...

somehow:


I want yam porridge
You sent me pounded yam

Have you supplied what I want?

The houses you said are vacant were not built for those who need them, they were and are being built for returnees, deep pocket guys and politicians.

These group of people can afford to build their own houses.

So you can't use such houses to solve the housing deficit that has remained.

Smiles. Let me keep kwayet.

A lot of us here do know there are housing schemes that are far cheaper than our current builds yet we won’t explore that option because it’s either not built to our taste or we want more.

I can see we are truly trying to solve housing deficit in Nigeria dramatically.

Even someone with 500k want to build his own house instead of exploring alternative options.

hamtabfawaz:



Morning Sir. Don't Regard Anyone as bad belle even if you think so.

I understand where you're coming from & i agree with your points.

But just make valid points (as you have done) without insult . Avoid any word that would cause a grudge.

NOTED BROTHER.. SOME PEOPLE'S COMMENT CAN MAKE YOU BRING OUT SOME OTHER SIDE OF YOUR PERSON SOMETIMES... BUT WE LEARN EVERYDAY..

APPRECIATE... NOTED... NO CAUSE FOR GRUDGE..

somehow:


They built what is not in demand.

No low cost housing can stay vacant for long.

In business, you produce to fill a gap.
Those who need houses badly can't afford all these expensive buildings littering everywhere!

Ogun and Oyo state (for example) has a lot of vacant housing scheme.

diordaves:


Muyi, Muyi, Muyi. How many times I call you?

Do that water stand now!!! make that one commot for ground and buy the pumping machine keep. It will not get cheaper. By June, July and even August prices of building materials no go funny.

I have done 40ft water tower just few years back for 470k. Today it is over one million. So for me, anything that can be completely achieve with available funds, I achieve it straight away and get that off the spreadsheet.

you can't get 40ft tank for 1ml today. E must add few hundreds of thousands. The effects of the devaluation of naira will start hitting soon and also when petrol is fully deregulated,e no go funny again. That's why I tell people,if you have the funds do that job and forget about it immediately. The hyperinflation we are going to experience soon will shock and confuse economists

diordaves:


Muyi, Muyi, Muyi. How many times I call you?

Do that water stand now!!! make that one commot for ground and buy the pumping machine keep. It will not get cheaper. By June, July and even August prices of building materials no go funny.

I have done 40ft water tower just few years back for 470k. Today it is over one million. So for me, anything that can be completely achieve with available funds, I achieve it straight away and get that off the spreadsheet.

HMMM.... i love this your statement "anything that can be completely achieve with available funds".

I will take that to heart.

Thank you.

diordaves:


Muyi, Muyi, Muyi. How many times I call you?

Do that water stand now!!! make that one commot for ground and buy the pumping machine keep. It will not get cheaper. By June, July and even August prices of building materials no go funny.

I have done 40ft water tower just few years back for 470k. Today it is over one million. So for me, anything that can be completely achieve with available funds, I achieve it straight away and get that off the spreadsheet.

True talk... I hurriedly did mine of 15feet with 400k. 3 by 5 and 1/2.. I do ijebu to cut excess cost

n3xt:


Ogun and Oyo state (for example) has a lot of vacant housing scheme.

Then what they built is not in tandem with the standard of living of their people.

Main reason why majority of Nigerians can't buy brand new cars. Standard of living. So build what your people can afford. A true low cost housing estates.

You can't be selling a 2 bedroom for 5 million (total cost) in Ogun state or even Osun, then claim they are "low cost". How much is an average earning power of your target market?

n3xt:


Smiles. Let me keep kwayet.

A lot of us here do know there are housing schemes that are far cheaper than our current builds yet we won’t explore that option because it’s either not built to our taste or we want more.

I can see we are truly trying to solve housing deficit in Nigeria dramatically.

Even someone with 500k want to build his own house instead of exploring alternative options.

If you have the money they want to sell their available "low cost houses" for in cash, will you buy to live or build yours instead?

Anyways, I rest my case.

somehow:


Then what they built is not in tandem with the standard of living of their people.

Main reason why majority of Nigerians can't buy brand new cars. Standard of living. So build what your people can afford. A true low cost housing estates.

You can't be selling a 2 bedroom for 5 million (total cost) in Ogun state or even Osun, then claim they are "low cost". How much is an average earning power of your target market?

you need to understand that people who invest heavily in real estate in Nigeria are running from something and trying to wash illicit funds. That's why they can afford to build a house without renting it out cause they have absolutely nothing to lose. 80% of Nigerians don't have 5ml cash but someone will be building a house and wanting to collect 5ml as rent annually.



While some of the houses will be occupied probably because of their prime locations and stuff, majority will remain empty

Horlardorjah:


But the wire theft of a thing even after installing your windows and doors are kinda amusing cause you know the people you contracted for other job aspects which I assume should be limited or reduced to painting, cabinets, interior decor n the likes and assumed to be part of your team or known People.
The risk of wire theft at that stage should be almost zero except they are breaking in big time and no one can stop that.
My thought though.

Let me share a story from my experience thread
https://www.nairaland.com/6447302/behind-scenes-building-industry-collection

michlins:
you need to understand that people who invest heavily in real estate in Nigeria are running from something and trying to wash illicit funds. That's why they can afford to build a house without renting it out cause they have absolutely nothing to lose. 80% of Nigerians don't have 5ml cash but someone will be building a house and wanting to collect 5ml as rent annually.



While some of the houses will be occupied probably because of their prime locations and stuff, majority will remain empty

Your comment is collaborating mine.

This is what @nxt is missing.

That there are vacant houses in various estates is not a sign that we don't have housing deficit. Those houses were not truly built to solve the problem.

Hello professionals in the house. I'm here to seek the advice of the professionals here concerning my family's new house project.

It's a four bedroom pent house.

Here are my questions;
1) what are the step by step stages of building the house from scratch to finishing?
2) is it adviceable to keep materials such as tiles, wc etc after fixing window and exit doors.
3) concrete or iron water tank, which is the best for a small family?
4) do we need to plaster the inside of the building before fixing pop and windows?
5) we are thinking of using roofing sheets to do the parapet instead of concrete. I hope that is a good idea.

Thanks in advance

michlins:
you need to understand that people who invest heavily in real estate in Nigeria are running from something and trying to wash illicit funds. That's why they can afford to build a house without renting it out cause they have absolutely nothing to lose. 80% of Nigerians don't have 5ml cash but someone will be building a house and wanting to collect 5ml as rent annually.



While some of the houses will be occupied probably because of their prime locations and stuff, majority will remain empty

Hi Michlins, just to remind you that I am still awaiting your reply on Nnewi-Makurdi route.

My experience ogas in the house, make una help me for this matter pls. How much for workmanship (plastering) that will cover this building with shop in front. I was charged 480k. Pls any idea to help me bagain. Thank you.

Rexology:

Hi Michlins, just to remind you that I am still awaiting your reply on Nnewi-Makurdi route.

of course I know sir. We have been stuck indoors since Saturday. Better safe than sorry


By tomorrow, I will get back to you

michlins:
of course I know sir. We have been stuck indoors since Saturday. Better safe than sorry


By tomorrow, I will get back to you

Okay!

samoranononi:


Thank you Sir. I appreciate this. The architect even sent me another he designed that I should check it out and get back to him.

Three bedrooms, 5 gutters and no cross ventilation for 2 out of 3 rooms.

I wont take this from my architect.

africaflozy:
Hello professionals in the house. I'm here to seek the advice of the professionals here concerning my family's new house project.

It's a four bedroom pent house.

Here are my questions;
1) what are the step by step stages of building the house from scratch to finishing?
2) is it adviceable to keep materials such as tiles, wc etc after fixing window and exit doors.
3) concrete or iron water tank, which is the best for a small family?
4) do we need to plaster the inside of the building before fixing pop and windows?
5) we are thinking of using roofing sheets to do the parapet instead of concrete. I hope that is a good idea.

Thanks in advance

1 After securing your land (Get the Necessary Plans & drawing ready) to beginning of foundation . To lintel level to roofing stage.
Once it gets to roofing stage. Most activities begin. a) Plumbing works b)Wiring c) Windows & Doors d) Plastering c)Then Interior : POP then tiling , etc Painting should come last.

2 yeah. If area is secured

3 Oga @Michilins can do justice to that. Although i might go with concrete (if it was my build)

4 Yes. You must Plaster before fixing POP

5 it's not a bad idea (Am not so Sure) . I'd advise you go for concrete Parapet.


I hope this helps a bit.


I'll leave the rest to my ogas in the house to do a proper Break down & Hopefully Better explanation.

Cheers.

hamtabfawaz:



1 After securing your land (Get the Necessary Plans & drawing ready) to beginning of foundation . To lintel level to roofing stage.
Once it gets to roofing stage. Most activities begin. a) Plumbing works b)Wiring c) Windows & Doors d) Plastering c)Then Interior : POP then tiling , etc Painting should come last.

2 yeah. If area is secured

3 Oga @Michilins can do justice to that. Although i might go with concrete (if it was my build)

4 Yes. You must Plaster before fixing POP

5 it's not a bad idea (Am not so Sure) . I'd advise you go for concrete Parapet.


I hope this helps a bit.


I'll leave the rest to my ogas in the house to do a proper Break down & Hopefully Better explanation.

Cheers.

Thanks sir. All information is noted as I await other people's contribution.

spyder880:


Let me share a story from my experience thread
https://www.nairaland.com/6447302/behind-scenes-building-industry-collection

Nice one Spyder
Got carried away reading all through to the last page but
Non depict what we have here, cables were not stoled by breaking in or by other artisans on the job but by the artisan(electrician) while at work.
Nevertheless, peeps should get familiar with their build environment n know what will possibly work best for them.
Interact with neighbors n the likes to know what happens around n another thing that can be done is to raise your block all through your perimeter wall to make it impossible to break in through the ceiling(eaves)- it comes at a price though

somehow:


Then what they built is not in tandem with the standard of living of their people.

Main reason why majority of Nigerians can't buy brand new cars. Standard of living. So build what your people can afford. A true low cost housing estates.

You can't be selling a 2 bedroom for 5 million (total cost) in Ogun state or even Osun, then claim they are "low cost". How much is an average earning power of your target market?

The builds are far from the low earners they built for and that will make them spend more than where dey presently occupy n another possibility of higher powers had already bought up the units and are giving them out at higher rates self

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michlins:
when he hired the people that did the plastering,he supplied cement and everything used for the job and the workers came with their tools and strength. Moreover the prices of cement bag isn't significant.

You see those buckets, each can go as high as #200 and multiply by the numbers. This is real streets and not Nairaland where #20,000 is a paltry sum for some

1 bucket is 700 to 800 naira here.

Mieasongz:
About 50% of Nigeria's population is using the Internet and around 90% of the total population have mobile phones, as of January 2021, Nigeria had a population of 208.8 million, and about 104.4 million were Internet users, giving a mobile penetration rate of 50%. Of those, 93.3% accessed the Internet via a mobile phone.

Also DataReportal which reported the above statistics also stated that the number of internet users in Nigeria increased by 19 million, or 22%, between 2020 and 2021.

Furthermore, Statistica.com reported that the number of TV cable users in Nigeria is expected to increase from 6.5 million in 2018 to 7.4 million in 2023.

In addition, more than 500,000 candidates write WAEC or NECO every year and also every home in Nigeria pay electricity bills.

Our company witty.com.ng provide all the above services and products that are required almost by every Nigerian.

Airtime, Data Subscriptions, Cable Subscriptions, Electricity Payment, Bills Payment, Bulk SMS, WAEC and NECO pins etc.

So this give us the avenue to give you 20% interest on your investment from the profit we make per month.

It's not ponzi it's sharing of profits with our investors

Your interest is paid monthly.
And you can start as low with ₦1,000

To join register at https://www.witty.com.ng
Navigate to the investment at the menu.
And select plan.

To contact their customer care visit their website.
https://www.witty.com.ng

Is your company selling the services at higher price than is obtainable through other channels? Where will the 20% you're sharing every month come from?

Badgers14:


I am on the fence on this one.

One of the points the client raised was, when he hired the guys that did the plastering, they gave him all the used bags of cement, so he is supposed to keep the empty buckets of paint.

This is one of the reasons I advise both contractors and client to iron things out, make sure they are on the same page and agree on terms before the job starts.

Interestingly, lots of people are for the clients tho. (But again most people on the group live outside Nigeria - not sure if it affected how they looked at the issue).

The good thing about NL is the difference in opinions. For me, I believe that paint buckets are for the client's except the painter stated from the beginning that it is "CONTENT ONLY" he is supplying.

I have bought paints from Dulux this year.

I've bought some American paints too.

None of them requested for buckets.

I've also little bought from Oga GBADEXY.

You can't sell an egg without its shell.

Muyi002:



Amen bro.

The place is developed. I actually have people resident opposite and behind my building and I have secured the roof entrance using the attached.

This is good.

Does your building have a concrete fascia ?? If yes, that should deter them.

somehow:


Then what they built is not in tandem with the standard of living of their people.

Main reason why majority of Nigerians can't buy brand new cars. Standard of living. So build what your people can afford. A true low cost housing estates.

You can't be selling a 2 bedroom for 5 million (total cost) in Ogun state or even Osun, then claim they are "low cost". How much is an average earning power of your target market?

Except its subsidized, you can't even make gains by selling housing units for 5 million.

Ajimobi Estate in Alafara, Ibadan is selling for just 5 - 6million (three years back it was just 3.5million) but people aren't buying.

There's also a mental block somewhere concerning housing schemes. Yoruba will say "why buy a house that they can't bury you inside".

Besides most estates (like Ajorosun in Moniya) only have a 74 year lease on the land. The fear of what happens next, after 74 years, is also a fear factor.

Mieasongz:
About 50% of Nigeria's population is using the Internet and around 90% of the total population have mobile phones, as of January 2021, Nigeria had a population of 208.8 million, and about 104.4 million were Internet users, giving a mobile penetration rate of 50%. Of those, 93.3% accessed the Internet via a mobile phone.

Also DataReportal which reported the above statistics also stated that the number of internet users in Nigeria increased by 19 million, or 22%, between 2020 and 2021.

Furthermore, Statistica.com reported that the number of TV cable users in Nigeria is expected to increase from 6.5 million in 2018 to 7.4 million in 2023.

In addition, more than 500,000 candidates write WAEC or NECO every year and also every home in Nigeria pay electricity bills.

Our company witty.com.ng provide all the above services and products that are required almost by every Nigerian.

Airtime, Data Subscriptions, Cable Subscriptions, Electricity Payment, Bills Payment, Bulk SMS, WAEC and NECO pins etc.

So this give us the avenue to give you 20% interest on your investment from the profit we make per month.

It's not ponzi it's sharing of profits with our investors

Your interest is paid monthly.
And you can start as low with ₦1,000

To join register at https://www.witty.com.ng
Navigate to the investment at the menu.
And select plan.

To contact their customer care visit their website.
https://www.witty.com.ng

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