budaatum:

Its a rather big continent, don't you think? A bit too big for all of it to be having a golden era all at the same time I'd think, because I doubt any continent ever had a golden era though do correct me if I am wrong.

Parts of it however, and I'd ask you to [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_%26_15th_century_Africa#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DThe_years_between_1100_and%2Ctrade%2C_travel%2C_and_scholarship.?wprov=sfla1]consider a few empires[/url] while I hold the Golden Era of Ancient Egypt in reserve.

Yeah yeah yeah. Empires they say.

1Sharon:


Yeah yeah yeah. Empires they say.

Yeah yeah golden eras anywhere then, I say.

silibaba:
God is good, simple.

You lied.

Bifwoli:
Funny how you put it precisely bcoz i've often wondered about how humanity argues and even fights about serving different gods but they all agree on one devil.That puzzles me a lot.

Only abrahamic religions do that. Pagan religions are peaceful.

1Sharon:

Only abrahamic religions do that. Pagan religions are peaceful.

All religions are peaceful until POLITICIANS are allowed to ignite the soul of adherents into pursuing a different goal: to dominate others! Ecclesiastes 4:1,8:9
That's why there were wars everywhere before and after Abrahamic religions were introduced!

1Sharon:


Right. Are you implying it was Satan all along?

I do not imply, i Clearly Stated and State that When God Loves A person, He Covers that person with His Hand from Satan.

When that person Annoys Him, He Removes His Hand and Satan Moves for the kill.

1Sharon:


Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

So, God created light and darkness, good and evil; who created Nigeria?

Dtruthspeaker:


I do not imply, i Clearly Stated and State that When God Loves A person, He Covers that person with His Hand from Satan.

When that person Annoys Him, He Removes His Hand and Satan Moves for the kill.

Right. You're still saying it Satan was all along. If it was was, why wasn't that explicitly stated?

MightySparrow:

So, God created light and darkness, good and evil; who created Nigeria?

You see that verse and still ask me that question?

MaxInDHouse:


All religions are peaceful until POLITICIANS are allowed to ignite the soul of adherents into pursuing a different goal: to dominate others! Ecclesiastes 4:1,8:9
That's why there were wars everywhere before and after Abrahamic religions were introduced!

All religions are not peaceful.

1Sharon:

Right. You're still saying it Satan was all along. If it was was, why wasn't that explicitly stated?

I am explicit saying God Rules and is Always Good and Always Doing that which is Good whilst Satan is the evil, who is always attacking Everything and dispensing evil everywhere Except in the cases where God Stops him and Warns him not to touch.

That is what the Bible is explicitly saying which I am repeating to you.

The Bible is itself a parable, it is explicit but the blind are not able to immediately see it.

Dtruthspeaker:


I am explicit saying God Rules and is Always Good and Always Doing that which is Good whilst Satan is the evil, who is always attacking Everything and dispensing evil everywhere Except in the cases where God Stops him and Warns him not to touch.

The Bible is itself a parable, it is explicit but the blind never see it.

Right. So it's not literal?

1Sharon:


Right. So it's not literal?

We are spirits, so all things start from the spirit (heaven) and are seen or interpreted in the spirit before it is applied on the physical/literal (earth).

Which is why it is Written "the flesh (physical/literal/earth) profiteth No Thing. The spirit is Life (or death)!"

Dtruthspeaker:


We are spirits, so all things start from the spirit (heaven) and are seen or interpreted in the spirit before it is applied on the physical/literal (earth).

Which is why it is Written "the flesh (physical/literal/earth) profiteth No Thing. The spirit is Life (or death)!"

Right. What a way to cop-out because you can't explain the contradiction.

I'll leave you to your disingenuous dillusion.

HappyPagan:
Have we tried the Gods of the Chinese? or the Indian Gods?

These Abrahamic Gods have only brought us strife and hatred.. MOre knights and imams yet as unholy as hell could be.

Do you think it is justified to condemn a sect because of the failure of some of its members? If you do that, that shows how low your sense of judgement is. There are Christians all over the world who are extremely peaceful. Statistic shows that Christian dominated countries are very peaceful. We can not say the same of Moslem dominated countries.

HappyPagan:
Our native Gods we have killed with our own hands... Gods depend on belief to exist after all... if their believers dwindle, they fade like old memory.

Every god that can not prove itself will fade away. The reason they are obsolete is because they are powerless.

HappyPagan:
Speaking of memory, apart from the Abrahamic Gods, what other Gods do you know? Wetin dey your mind apart from the myths from Mecca and Jerusalem?
All that knowledge of Israel, and you know very little about the land your feet stand on....what a shame...

I've studied extensively in the pursuit for knowledge and truth, and so far, I've not found any god as real as the Almighty God of the Bible. This is why I am a declared Christian. If you have doubts about the realness of the God of the Bible, come let's talk about your doubts. I may be helpful to clear your doubts.

iSpirit1:

Do you think it is justified to condemn a sect because of the failure of some of its members? If you do that, that shows how low your sense of judgement is. There are Christians all over the world who are extremely peaceful. Statistic shows that Christian dominated countries are very peaceful. We can not say the same of Moslem dominated countries.

Would like to see these statistics you posted. And I wonder why you'd be posting Christian vs Muslim statistics. You african children of Abraham are both mad...

iSpirit1:

Every god that can not prove itself will fade away. The reason they are obsolete is because they are powerless.

Maybe the dead Gods are powerless. The ones who exist today will die too. Just like Jesus did on that cross..

iSpirit1:

I've studied extensively in the pursuit for knowledge and truth, and so far, I've not found any god as real as the Almighty God of the Bible.

And this knowledge and truth you sought, how far did it lead you? How far did you go? Did you do rituals? Did you eat human flesh atop a mountain in the early hours of a late December harmattan morning?

How many Gods do you know? How many African Gods do you know? You've probably read the Bible more times than any other religious book.. wouldnt that suggest a bias for Jesus?

You studied extensively... I agree. A lot of time studying fables and myth isn't too healthy. The myths become real, sometimes even realer than life.

If you have doubts about the realness of the God of the Bible, come let's talk about your doubts. I may be helpful to clear your doubts.

Bro, that's my mission here. To bring doubt to the minds of the African children of Abraham.

1Sharon:


Right. What a way to cop-out because you can't explain the contradiction.

I'll leave you to your disingenuous dillusion.

3 Times have i explained what you now call a contradiction and 3 times have you failed to provide any reasonable query on my Answer.

So, you are the one who is fleeing seeing that there is nothing, absolutely nothing reasonable for you to complain about.

1Sharon:


You see that verse and still ask me that question?

Nigeria is not God's problem, ask Lord Luggard. By the way, which black people is making sense?

HappyPagan:

Maybe the dead Gods are powerless. The ones who exist today will die too. Just like Jesus did on that cross..

Like your mother and father, you would still die and Christ Followers would still continue their devotion to God!

1Sharon:


Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

This is one of the verses that have led many (including you) to believe that God is evil.

To start with, being evil is against every attribute of God, because GOD IS LOVE.

But, how do we explain this in the light of Isaiah 45:7? It is very important to understand the concept of Original Sin. God created Lucifer (who became Satan) as a result of MISUSAGE OF FREEWILL. So, in other words Isaiah 45:7 is correct, because God created Lucifer.

It's one thing to read a verse, it's another to understand it and interpret it inline with every other verse. Cause ultimately, there's no contradiction in the inspired Scriptures.

Dtruthspeaker:


Like your mother and father, you would still die and Christ Followers would still continue their devotion to God!

All men will die, my parents and yours too, if you know them. A stubborn obstinate devotion to a cause is something robots should be proud of, not humans with free thinking. But alas, free thinking can be given away for cheap.

iSpirit1:

But, how do we explain this in the light of Isaiah 45:7? It is very important to understand the concept of Original Sin. God created Lucifer (who became Satan) as a result of MISUSAGE OF FREEWILL. So, in other words Isaiah 45:7 is correct, because God created Lucifer.

Without God, no Satan. Satan supplies the poison, God sells a fake cure. If I sell you bike wey get freewill, you go ride am?

Your God is a very evil spirit.. that God of Israel, that one that Abraham worshipped... very evil...

HappyPagan:

All men will die, my parents and yours too, if you now them. A stubborn obstinate devotion to a cause is something robots should be proud of, not humans with free thinking. But alas, free thinking can be given away for cheap.

For failing to create yourself, it means all that you have are Was Given You!

Therefore, We are all robots and toys some have freedoms/permissions (Rights) and many do not.

No Creator bothers to judge or set an exam for a robot that does not think nor has the freedom to think.

But a robot that can think and has been taught by the Creator Himself on so many subjects, will surely Write Exams and be Elevated or Condemned by the Judgement on the exams he has written.

For After Every Education is Examination.

And After every Examination comes Promotion or Condemnation!

1Sharon:


There has never been a golden era of Africa.

Then wait for it

Dtruthspeaker:


We are all robots and toys some have permissions (Rights) and many do not.

It seems you are new to computer science, and now have the spiritual ability to see divine principles in every transistor. May the Lord help you.

HappyPagan:


Bro, that's my mission here. To bring doubt to the minds of the African children of Abraham.

Nah! You Know it is All Over for you but you seek to Take out as many souls as you can with you!

HappyPagan:

It seems you are new to computer science, and now have the spiritual ability to see divine principles in every transistor. May the Lord help you.

once it's a Computer, it's a Robot and in being a robot, it's a creation and once it's a creation, it's got Set Principles/Laws IT MUST OBEY AND FOLLOW.

Once it's science, it's a Subject or Topic About What has been Created and since it is about creations, it's got Set Principles/Laws IT MUST OBEY AND FOLLOW, Exactly As It Is The Law in Computer Science, Coding and Programming can not be done with sand and stone.

Dtruthspeaker:


3 Times have i explained what you now call a contradiction and 3 times have you failed to provide any reasonable query on my Answer.

So, you are the one who is fleeing seeing that there is nothing, absolutely nothing reasonable for you to complain about.

On one hand it was it God against Israel, on the other it was Satan.

You are indirectly implying it was Satan all along and not God that went against Israel, am I right or wrong?

Who went against Israel, God or Satan?

budaatum:


It is written in the Torah:

And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Will you obey such a command?

And why?

And what are the consequences if you obeyed or disobeyed?

Ok ,
I will answer you with a simple analogy.
You created a robot to help you wash your car in the morning. And everyday by 5 am he gets up and washes the car that's what he does day in day out for millions of years without complaining. Sound good doesn't it. What if you take out the OS and upgraded it such that it can perform so many functions..
The first thing you probably will do will be to test run it..if you say " don't smash the windshield "? And it does anyway....does it not mean your upgrade worked? Because it can perform another function and maybe a thousand more...

Like I said before we are spiritual being having a human experience. Spirits can't make choices they do whatever God has created them yo do. God created man and endowed it with the ability and capacity to make choices. Sometimes our choices are not favorable to us and our neighbor.. so because also we have the tendency to commit evil. God decreec that our stay on earth should not exceed 120 years. When we "die" our spirits return to him our body return to earth..to default settings..

The story is a retelling of how death came to be.

So all thatis required is to follow certain rules to make the experience more fruitful and purposeful..hence ifa, torah and omenani...

MightySparrow:

Nigeria is not God's problem, ask Lord Luggard. By the way, which black people is making sense?

Nothing stops Nigeria from going back to their original borders and boundaries.

Germany was divided into east and west, and they didn't accept that.

What is stopping Nigeria from reversing everything the colonizers did?

How long will they keep blaming white people?

1Sharon:


Nothing stops Nigeria from going back to their original borders and boundaries.

Germany was divided into east and west, and they didn't accept that.

What is stopping Nigeria from reversing everything the colonizers did?

How long will they keep blaming white people?

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The fact they still keep calling the foolish Luggard Lord should tell you they have no concept of what a 'citizen' is, talk less a country. They have never really thought about the label Shaw designed for them, and how they came to pick that label on earth. They have no imagination to see passports designed by them for them, governments designed by them for them, religions designed by them for them.

It's a good idea to think that Africa will find its feet.. but I struggle to see any limbs, talk less of feet.