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Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by olayiwola4u(m): 12:16pm On Jun 05, 2021
Jesus, the son of God, was sent to the earth to save the world from sin. His assignment had nothing to do with the righteous folks. However, righteousness is not enough to save a man or woman from committing sin. Everyone, including all righteous people, need Jesus as he is the only way to God.



The Pharisees, in the Bible, did not understand this simple truth. That was why they questioned the closeness of Jesus with sinners in Matthew 9:11.

They were surprised that he didn’t just talk with them, but he also ate with them.

Immediately he heard what they said about his relationship with sinners, he replied and stated a good reason for it: He came to call sinners so that they could repent and not righteous people.



Any righteous person, overtime, will realize the need for Jesus on earth, apart from gaining access to Heaven through him.

Noah was the only righteous person in his generation. Yet he later turned out to be a drunkard. Before the flood, God planned to destroy the world due to the sins of mankind. After his search, according to the book of Genesis 7:1, he found Noah to be the only righteous person on earth.

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One would have thought his righteousness would save him after the flood. His righteousness was only able to save him before the flood. Immediately after the flood, he showed how helpless a righteous man could be without Christ.

In addition, in the book of Job, God vouched for the righteousness of Job before Satan. He was even given the permission to test him out. Eventually, Job was found to be perfect.


However, in Job 42:6, he repented of his sin in dust and ashes. He was perfect, yet he repented. Considering the way God vouched for him, no man would think Job need to repent. After all, he was perfect.

He confirmed, too, that righteousness — perfect life — without Jesus Christ is nothing but a fallacy.


God knew the weakness of the righteousness of man before any man was called righteous. So, he prepared his only son to come and die so as to save the world.



If you are still thinking may be you need him or not in your life, you need to decide on time (now is the right time) because tomorrow may be too late.

If you are ready to give your life to him, you need to pray this simple prayer below. Then find any Bible believing church to attend on Sunday so as to build your faith in Christ till he comes back for you on the day of rapture.

PRAYER:

I admit I’m a sinner, and I accept you Jesus Christ as my Lord and personal savior. Save me from sin and write my name in the book of life.

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Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by olayiwola4u(m): 12:23pm On Jun 05, 2021
God knew the weakness of the righteousness of man before any man was called righteous. So, he prepared his only son to come and die so as to save the world.
Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by Dtruthspeaker: 12:30pm On Jun 05, 2021
olayiwola4u:
Do I Need Jesus if I'm Righteous

It is not valid for anyone to mark his own Examination script, thus no one can validly declare himself "Righteous" without being Judged by The Judge, Jesus Christ!
Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by olayiwola4u(m): 12:33pm On Jun 05, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


It is not valid for anyone to mark his own Examination script, thus no one can validly declare himself "Righteous" without being Judged by The Judge, Jesus Christ!

You are right. In the Bible, the righteous people were declared righteous by God or prophets. However, today, people declared themselves righteous.
Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by Dtruthspeaker: 12:34pm On Jun 05, 2021
olayiwola4u:

You are right. In the Bible, the righteous people were declared righteous by God or prophets. However, today, people declared themselves righteous.

Very Terrible thing that they do!

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Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:16pm On Jun 05, 2021
According to the Bible, there is no single person that is righteous {Psalms 14:3 compare to Luke 18:18-19} so God only declared some righteous because they heard about His righteous way and were prepared to subject themselves to his way! Isaiah 30:21

Therefore being righteous largely depends on a continuous exercise of ever willing to yield to the next level not some static rules {John 5:19} Jesus is ever willing to make needed adjustments not what God told him in the past but whenever God orders him to do something Jesus is ever willing to yield. That's why he is God's most favourite. John 8:28-29

So to become truly righteous for the gift of everlasting life we must all adopt Jesus' line of thought {John 1:12, 3:16} righteousness is not that easy to calculate without following God's own measuring tape for righteousness (Jesus Christ) 1Peter 2:21

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by Kobojunkie: 2:51pm On Jun 05, 2021
olayiwola4u:
Jesus, the son of God, was sent to the earth to save the world from sin. His assignment had nothing to do with the righteous folks. However, righteousness is not enough to save a man or woman from committing sin. Everyone, including all righteous people, need Jesus as he is the only way to God.
The Pharisees, in the Bible, did not understand this simple truth. That was why they questioned the closeness of Jesus with sinners in Matthew 9:11.
They were surprised that he didn’t just talk with them, but he also ate with them.
Immediately he heard what they said about his relationship with sinners, he replied and stated a good reason for it: He came to call sinners so that they could repent and not righteous people.
Any righteous person, overtime, will realize the need for Jesus on earth, apart from gaining access to Heaven through him.

Noah was the only righteous person in his generation. Yet he later turned out to be a drunkard. Before the flood, God planned to destroy the world due to the sins of mankind. After his search, according to the book of Genesis 7:1, he found Noah to be the only righteous person on earth.
You are very wrong and there is no easier way to put it! Please ask the Father for understanding so that you do not continue to doom yourself in this way. undecided

1. God's Righteousness, as spoken of in the Bible, is a mark of approval/certification of worthiness from God Himself and so those whom He declared righteous needed no more saving because these were already holy/perfect and doing His Will. undecided

2. God's Righteousness existed even before the birth of Jesus Christ, and in the very gospels, you are told of at least 5 people who were righteous in the sight of God - Joseph, father of Jesus, Zechariah and Elizabeth, Simeon, Joseph of Arimathea, and even John the Baptist. They did not need Jesus Christ because they already belonged to God who already approved of them. undecided

3. Jesus Christ rightly said that He did not come for those already righteous but for the sinners since those righteous were already approved by God and so already belonged to God. It was instead the sinners that didn't already belong to God that God had sent Him to - the Lost sheep of Israel. undecided

4. The Pharisees were not righteous - they were called hypocrites by Jesus Christ and rightly so. Not once did Jesus Christ refer to them as being righteous. undecided

5. Noah's drinking was not recorded as a sin against Him, Noah, so why do you treat it as such? undecided
Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by enilove(m): 3:07pm On Jun 05, 2021
As long as you are living in this world that is
full of physical and spiritual pollution and in this earthly body , to be perfect or righteous is impossible.

PAUL DECLARED :

Romans 7:15-19 KJV
For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. [16] If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
[17] Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
[18] For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
[19] For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

THE ONLY WAY OUT IS :

1) To accept Jesus Christ as a saviour that can help you .
2) To be filled with the Holy Spirit .
It is when the Holy is in control of your spirit that you can live a holy life .

Romans 8:1,5-7 KJV
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[5] For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
[6] For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
[7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Holy Spirit will help you to crucify your flesh.

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Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by gideonjeta(m): 6:14pm On Jun 05, 2021
olayiwola4u:
Jesus, the son of God, was sent to the earth to save the world from sin. His assignment had nothing to do with the righteous folks. However, righteousness is not enough to save a man or woman from committing sin. Everyone, including all righteous people, need Jesus as he is the only way to God.



The Pharisees, in the Bible, did not understand this simple truth. That was why they questioned the closeness of Jesus with sinners in Matthew 9:11.

They were surprised that he didn’t just talk with them, but he also ate with them.

Immediately he heard what they said about his relationship with sinners, he replied and stated a good reason for it: He came to call sinners so that they could repent and not righteous people.



Any righteous person, overtime, will realize the need for Jesus on earth, apart from gaining access to Heaven through him.

Noah was the only righteous person in his generation. Yet he later turned out to be a drunkard. Before the flood, God planned to destroy the world due to the sins of mankind. After his search, according to the book of Genesis 7:1, he found Noah to be the only righteous person on earth.

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One would have thought his righteousness would save him after the flood. His righteousness was only able to save him before the flood. Immediately after the flood, he showed how helpless a righteous man could be without Christ.

In addition, in the book of Job, God vouched for the righteousness of Job before Satan. He was even given the permission to test him out. Eventually, Job was found to be perfect.


However, in Job 42:6, he repented of his sin in dust and ashes. He was perfect, yet he repented. Considering the way God vouched for him, no man would think Job need to repent. After all, he was perfect.

He confirmed, too, that righteousness — perfect life — without Jesus Christ is nothing but a fallacy.


God knew the weakness of the righteousness of man before any man was called righteous. So, he prepared his only son to come and die so as to save the world.



If you are still thinking may be you need him or not in your life, you need to decide on time (now is the right time) because tomorrow may be too late.

If you are ready to give your life to him, you need to pray this simple prayer below. Then find any Bible believing church to attend on Sunday so as to build your faith in Christ till he comes back for you on the day of rapture.

PRAYER:

I admit I’m a sinner, and I accept you Jesus Christ as my Lord and personal savior. Save me from sin and write my name in the book of life.

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In this wicked world that we live in,..No man can say he is righteous. Since God alone can declare a man righteous, attempts to prove oneself righteous on the basis of one’s own merit or by acceptance of the judgment of others as to one’s righteousness are of no value. Job was reproved because, though not charging God with any wrong, he was “declaring his own soul righteous rather than God.” (Job 32:1, 2) The man versed in the Law who questioned Jesus about the way to everlasting life was indirectly reproved by Jesus for his attempt to prove himself righteous. (Lu 10:25-37) Jesus condemned the Pharisees for seeking to declare themselves righteous before men. (Lu 16:15) The apostle Paul, in particular, showed that, because of the imperfect, sinful state of all mankind, none could be declared righteous through trying to establish their own righteousness. (Ro 3:19-24; Ga 3:10-12) Instead, he stressed faith in Christ Jesus as the true basis for such declaration of righteousness. (Ro 10:3, 4) The inspired letter of James complements Paul’s statement by showing that such faith must be made to live by works of faith.
Thus, to be righteous or to remain righteous, we need faith in Jehovah/Jesus and act according to his standards.

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Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by livingchrist: 6:24pm On Jun 05, 2021
There are two types of righteousness, the righteousness by faith and the righteousness of works.

The righteousness by faith in Christ is the true righteousness.
Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by Kobojunkie: 7:30pm On Jun 05, 2021
gideonjeta:

In this wicked world that we live in,..No man can say he is righteous. Since God alone can declare a man righteous, attempts to prove oneself righteous on the basis of one’s own merit or by acceptance of the judgment of others as to one’s righteousness are of no value. Job was reproved because, though not charging God with any wrong, he was “declaring his own soul righteous rather than God.” (Job 32:1, 2) The man versed in the Law who questioned Jesus about the way to everlasting life was indirectly reproved by Jesus for his attempt to prove himself righteous. (Lu 10:25-37) Jesus condemned the Pharisees for seeking to declare themselves righteous before men. (Lu 16:15) The apostle Paul, in particular, showed that, because of the imperfect, sinful state of all mankind, none could be declared righteous through trying to establish their own righteousness. (Ro 3:19-24; Ga 3:10-12) Instead, he stressed faith in Christ Jesus as the true basis for such declaration of righteousness. (Ro 10:3, 4) The inspired letter of James complements Paul’s statement by showing that such faith must be made to live by works of faith.
Thus, to be righteous or to remain righteous, we need faith in Jehovah/Jesus and act according to his standards.
Interesting claims you make here. undecided

1. Why do you place Elihu's rebuke of Job above God's own response to Job? Did God Himself reprove Job for asserting His innocence? undecided

2. You mentioned the man versed in the Law who questioned Jesus Christ about the way to eternal life, this according to the Old Law, but without true understanding of who His neighbor is, and I wonder if you know that what Jesus Christ told Him was how to obtain righteousness/eternal life by following of the Old Law, and not Jesus Christ, the New Law - Luke 10 vs 25 - 37 . undecided

3. According to the Old Covenant, the Righteous live in submission to and obedience of God's Law, YHWH undecided

In Jesus Christ, the New Covenant, the Righteous live in submission to and obedience of God's Law, Jesus Christ.

Same God, same standard for attaining righteousness though different Laws. undecided
Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by gideonjeta(m): 8:04pm On Jun 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Interesting claims you make here. undecided

1. Why do you place Elihu's rebuke of Job above God's own response to Job? Did God Himself reprove Job for asserting His innocence? undecided

2. You mentioned the man versed in the Law who questioned Jesus Christ about the way to eternal life, this according to the Old Law, but without true understanding of who His neighbor is, and I wonder if you know that what Jesus Christ told Him was how to obtain righteousness/eternal life by following of the Old Law, and not Jesus Christ, the New Law - Luke 10 vs 25 - 37 . undecided

3. According to the Old Covenant, the Righteous live in submission to and obedience of God's Law, YHWH undecided

In Jesus Christ, the New Covenant, the Righteous live in submission to and obedience of God's Law, Jesus Christ.

Same God, same standard for attaining righteousness though different Laws. undecided

If you look at my last sentences and yours, our points are closely related. I am not in disagreement with what you say. The 1,2,3 questions you pointed out, I was pointing out instances in the context where some individuals in the Bible were saying or acting as if they are already righteous without standards from God.

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Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by Kobojunkie: 8:11pm On Jun 05, 2021
gideonjeta:

If you look at my last sentences and yours, our points are closely related. I am not in disagreement with what you say. The 1,2,3 questions you pointed out, I was pointing out instances in the context where some individuals in the Bible were saying or acting as if they are already righteous without standards from God.
But Job was not acting righteous... he didn't even know Himself righteous. All he cared for was learning exactly why he was being punished by God. What was or is wrong with that? undecided

I am interested in learning why you decided that Elihu's talk was right even though God Himself never declared that so nor did God rebuke Job for trying to claim His innocence. undecided
Is it that you believe that we are all always guilty regardless of whether or not we live in obedience of God's commandments? undecided
Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by olayiwola4u(m): 6:54am On Jun 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:


5. Noah's drinking was not recorded as a sin against Him, Noah, so why do you treat it as such? undecided

Let me start with this your number 5...

Read Galatians 5:19-21


"Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,[c] fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,

idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,

envy, murders,[d] drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."

Drubkeness is the work of the flesh. In other words, drunkeness is a sin.

In case you say, works of the flesh are not sins. Apostle Paul wrote to the Romans that the flesh arouse SINFUL passions due to the law in Romans 7:5.

Lets call a spade a spade... All unrighteousness is a sin... Says the Bible in 1 John 5:17.

For the other points you raised, I will reply them in time.
Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by xproducer: 4:05pm On Jun 06, 2021
"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away." - Isaiah 64:6

"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one" - Romans 3:10

Any righteousness, and thus any access to GOD and Heaven is from the Lord JESUS, the CHRIST!

"He shall receive the blessing from the Lord, and righteousness from the God of his salvation." - Psalm 24:5

"And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith" - Philippians 3:9

"No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord." - Isaiah 54:17
Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by gideonjeta(m): 4:16pm On Jun 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:
But Job was not acting righteous... he didn't even know Himself righteous. All he cared for was learning exactly why he was being punished by God. What was or is wrong with that? undecided

I am interested in learning why you decided that Elihu's talk was right even though God Himself never declared that so nor did God rebuke Job for trying to claim His innocence. undecided
Is it that you believe that we are all always guilty regardless of whether or not we live in obedience of God's commandments? undecided

Did you go through the Bible verse I quoted earlier in my post about Elihu reproving Job?... Job 32:1,2. It was stated that Job was declaring himself righteous and Elihu corrected him for saying that. God himself step in later and admonish Job. Job realised his error and repented ( Job 42:6).

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Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by Kobojunkie: 4:27pm On Jun 06, 2021
olayiwola4u:

Let me start with this your number 5...
Read Galatians 5:19-21
"Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,[c] fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,

idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
envy, murders,[d] drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."

Drubkeness is the work of the flesh. In other words, drunkeness is a sin.

In case you say, works of the flesh are not sins. Apostle Paul wrote to the Romans that the flesh arouse SINFUL passions due to the law in Romans 7:5.

Lets call a spade a spade... All unrighteousness is a sin... Says the Bible in 1 John 5:17.

For the other points you raised, I will reply them in time.
Again, the Lord God Almighty, has never in any of His Laws, listed drunkenness nor the drinking of alcohol as a sin. And since no man has authority to add or remove from God's Law, no man can include it as sin. undecided
Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by Kobojunkie: 4:32pm On Jun 06, 2021
gideonjeta:

Did you go through the Bible verse I quoted earlier in my post about Elihu reproving Job?... Job 32:1,2. It was stated that Job was declaring himself righteous and Elihu corrected him for saying that. God himself step in later and admonish Job. Job realised his error and repented ( Job 42:6).
Elihu's opinion is noted but did God rebuke is more important here is it not? What did God admonish Job for? Was it for the same reason that Elihu stated? undecided
Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by gideonjeta(m): 5:01pm On Jun 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Elihu's opinion is noted but did God rebuke is more important here is it not? What did God admonish Job for? Was it for the same reason that Elihu stated? undecided
Jehovah God did not rebuke Job but merely corrected or admonish him. Job had earlier said he was righteous than God ( Job 35:2). God went on to talk about some of his creation and that man's sense of righteousness or wisdom cannot be compared to that of God.( Job chapters 38,39) Job later accepted correction as I posted earlier.

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Re: Do I Need Jesus If I’m Righteous? by Kobojunkie: 7:07pm On Jun 06, 2021
gideonjeta:

Jehovah God did not rebuke Job but merely corrected or admonish him. Job had earlier said he was righteous than God ( Job 35:2). God went on to talk about some of his creation and that man's sense of righteousness or wisdom cannot be compared to that of God.( Job chapters 38,39) Job later accepted correction as I posted earlier.
Where exactly can I find the claim you make in bold then? undecided

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