Well said bro

Ever8090:
Oh my God!!..this is very very insightful and helpful, I have been confronted with this issue on several occasions by the children of unnecessary hate who love shifting blames and always looking for others to take responsibility for their own actions that failed to backup their current material for hate against others.
First it was the issue of construction of a railway from Nigeria to Niger Republic, the music coming out from the east was that, Buhari conceived and gave birth to the idea, but it was letter reveled that it was Good luck Jonathan's concept after all!'
Another issue that is still lingering is that of accusations against the people of Benue state on massacre of Igbos on river Benue bridge during the civil war when it was actually the Nigerian army who was at war with them that commited the act..this same people will never mention their own deadly activities against the minority tribes in the south during the war e.g "go-Niger" "gaa Naja" a festival in Kalahari Kingdom to remember one of the atrocities by the Igbo soldiers against them during the war.

Note:I am not an Hausa/fulani or a Yoruba..

Very well, historically and culturally we re more close to yorubas than igbos!!!!

Sincinnati:
Historically, culturally, economically, sociopolitically, or how?

Are you well at all?

naptu2:
It is always the case that people who cannot discuss issues (wo don't have the brain power and emotional fortitude to discuss issues) always resort to discussing personalities. They cannot engage with ideas so they resort to ad hominem attacks against people that discuss these issues.

Hate, bigotry, anger, fights, insults, those are the only things that they understand and it's the only thing that they can engage with. It's all they do and all they see in others. They cannot discuss issues.

If people are left to decide the intent of creating a South South region, from your post, do you think they would call Igbos bigots, domineering, hate filled and other ad hominem you use to describe them?

Creation of the South South was never a mistake, it was purposely done by an Igbo man to give collective and weighty voice to the minority groups of the South, and till today, that idea has remained effective.

Why then do covert BIGOTs like you still term Igbos as domineering and hateful? If we are such, would an Igbo man have cared about giving a strong voice to the so called minorities?

Why are you people like this?

You created this thread to bash Igbos base on say some uninformed people have be ranting about the creation of the South South and how it alienated them from their historical/cultural neighbors in the South. But on a more reasonable thought, it should’ve been a thread to commend Igbos political liberalism then. Nevertheless, Bigots are Bigots, no mask can conceal you all.

Sincinnati:
If people are left to decide the intent of creating a South South region, from your post, do you think they would call Igbos bigots, domineering, hate filled and other ad hominem you use to describe them?

Creation of the South South was never a mistake, it was purposely done by an Igbo man to give collective and weighty voice to the minority groups of the South, and till today, that idea has remained effective.

Why then do covert BIGOTs like you still term Igbos as domineering and hateful? If we are such, would an Igbo man have cared about giving a strong voice to the so called minorities?

Why are you people like this?

You created this thread to bash Igbos base on say some uninformed people have be ranting about the creation of the South South and how it alienated them from their historical/cultural neighbors in the South. But on a more reasonable thought, it should’ve been a thread to commend Igbos political liberalism then. Nevertheless, Bigots are Bigots, no mask can conceal you all.

You see what I mean by bigots projecting their bigotry??

Please show me where I said that Igbos are domineering and hateful. I wrote about the noble reasons that made Alex Ekwueme to create the idea of the 6 politicial zones and you have been going all over the thread as if it was a bad thing.

What the hell is hateful about creating 6 geopolitical zones?

If it was hateful, would we not say that Bisi Onabanjo was hateful in contributing to the idea??

Would we not say that Abacha was hateful in approving the idea??

Would we not say that the whole of Nigeria, represented by the National Assembly, was hateful in including the idea in their laws?/

Did you actually read what I wrote or are you just assuming based on your bigoted world view?/

The basic idea was to provide equality between the regions of Nigeria. During the 1st Republic, Northern Nigeria was bigger than the other 2 regions (East and West) combined and there were always fears that it would dominate the country. Dr Ekwueme decided to address this issue by creating a balance.

Furthermore, minority ethnic groups were always complaining that they were being dominated by the 3 big ethnic groups and so his idea was developed in such a way that the minorities would have a voice.

In his idea, there would be an Eastern Region which would be mainly made up of the Igbo ethnic group and a Western Region that would be mainly made up of the Yoruba ethnic group. There would then be a South-South Region that would be mainly made up of the southern minorities.

There would also be a North-Western Region which would be mainly made up of the Hausa and Fulani ethnic groups and a North-East Region which would be mainly made up of the Kanuri ethnic group. There would then be a North-Central Region that would be mainly made up of the minorities in the North.

Multiplier7:
I looked at that map carefully and I noticed something important...

Why can't the so called South do the same? Especially the South East and South South, seeing that you guys have almost the same name and culture, mode of eating, mode of dressing and lifestyle. Why?
.

Hell no..We don't have any similar culture.. Everything is different...

As for calabar and akwa ibom...their own matter tie gele

naptu2:


Mtcheew



https://www.nairaland.com/5828164/covid-19-abia-state-delivers-1

https://www.nairaland.com/6133818/pictures-made-aba-furniture

https://www.nairaland.com/5993712/opinion-igbo-women-very-lazy#91754653

https://www.nairaland.com/5989000/igbo-women-lazy-noble-igwe/1#91681056

https://www.nairaland.com/879921/name-barracks-after-ojukwu-former

https://www.nairaland.com/5312033/launching-desire-oparanozie-foundation-chioma

I have absolutely nothing to prove to bigots who see bigotry in everything because they cannot address issues.

Lol!
Those threads were just you projecting your dead "ONE NIGERIA" agenda than anything else.

WrittyWritter:


Hell no..We don't have any similar culture.. Everything is different...

As for calabar and akwa ibom...their own matter tie gele

Who are the "We" you speak of?

tempusfugit:
Very well, historically and culturally we re more close to yorubas than igbos!!!!

What would I call you? Lemme keep that first.

Now take a very good look at the ethnic groups and tribes mentioned below, now tell us, from the Ijaws down to the Ogojas what ties does the yorubas have with these groups that supersedes the ties Igbos have with them? Even Ijaw that their land extends into Ondo State, a yoruba dominated state, are closer to Igbos than yorubas. This is no dick measuring contest, but don’t come here to distort facts and realities to suit whatever agenda you have.

You may be Itshekiri or Bini, yes you’re more closer to yorubas that way, but you first claimed that the “South South” is closer to yorubas than Igbos, now I asked you to explain and you’ve come to talk with sense. It’s good though.

Ayosman1:
Am proudly South South man, URHOBO nation from DELTA state, Nigeria. God bless URHOBOS/OKPE, Binis, Esans, Etsako, Ora, Afemais, Itsekiris, Ijaws, Isokos, Ikas, Igbankes, Ekwalles, Aniomas, Enebes, Ekwerres, Ogonis, Ahodas, Okrikas, Kalabaris, Egbemas, Eches, Ibibios, Orons, Anangs, Ekets, Efiks, Ogonjas and etc. 1 love my people

Igboid:


Lol!
Those threads were just you projecting your dead "ONE NIGERIA" agenda than anything else.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

I knew that he wouldn't have a sensible response.

Did those threads not show Igbos in a positive light? Is that not what you asked for.

I know the trick you are trying to play.

You can't argue based on facts, so you insult people in order to derail the thread. When that fails you try and derail the thread by talking about other things (as you did in your previous post). When that fails you try and shift the goalpost (as you are doing now).

It's all a waste of time. I'm only moved by superior reasoning, not all these childish games.

You can continue playing them by yourself. You have shown me that you are not serious, so I won't read or respond to your posts anymore. Goodbye.

Igboid:


Who are the "We" you speak of?

south south people.. I don't know y people feel the need to make us be under one of the three major tribes...We don't speak Yoruba..we don't speak Igbo..We don't speak Hausa..We all have different culture.

I feel the creation of the south south region was actually a good thing..we can be different together.. Because we till have different cultures and speak different languages..Na pidgin be our common language

DenreleDave:
Thank God for the division if not, igbos would have stolen then resources of these people and turn dem to slaves in their own land..

Are you this dense in your reasoning? The same igbo man proposed the creation of the south-south region if they wanted to steal would they have proposed the division?

I have always assumed that Taraba state is North Central.

naptu2:


You see what I mean by bigots projecting their bigotry??

Please show me where I said that Igbos are domineering and hateful. I wrote about the noble reasons that made Alex Ekwueme to create the idea of the 6 politicial zones and you have been going all over the thread as if it was a bad thing.

What the hell is hateful about creating 6 geopolitical zones?

If it was hateful, would we not say that Bisi Onabanjo was hateful in contributing to the idea??

Would we not say that Abacha was hateful in approving the idea??

Would we not say that the whole of Nigeria, represented by the National Assembly, was hateful in including the idea in their laws?/

Did you actually read what I wrote or are you just assuming based on your bigoted world view?/

So how many of your kinsmen running naked on this thread have you called to order? You were quick to write about how no one could have a reasonable discussion with you because a few people insulted you.

Yeah, I admit that you were insulted by ignorant folks who could be Igbos, but on this same thread people have been insulting and making disparaging remarks about Igbos for the creation of the South South, and I’m yet to see you call any of them out, seeing they’re here calling Igbos names on your own thread that ought to commend same Igbos for an honorable act.

Domineering and hateful has always been you guys preferred cliches when describing Igbos, yet history keeps proving you guys wrong.

There’s no denying the fact that your aim of creating this thread was not only to impart knowledge, you had an agenda. Everyone could see it in your following posts.

Kinzo0917:
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Mumu. We south/south reject you south East. We don't need you greedy Igbos. God forbid we belong and be part of Igbos. Is better we stay on our own or believe in one Nigeria ��.

Tell them oo..na by force

Sincinnati:
So how many of your kinsmen running naked on this thread have you called to order? You were quick to write about how no one could have a reasonable discussion with you because a few people insulted you.

Yeah, I admit that you were insulted by ignorant folks who could be Igbos, but on this same thread people have been insulting and making disparaging remarks about Igbos for the creation of the South South, and I’m yet to see you call any of them out, seeing they’re here calling Igbos names on your own thread that ought to commend same Igbos for an honorable act.

Domineering and hateful has always been you guys preferred cliches when describing Igbos, yet history keeps proving you guys wrong.

There’s no denying the fact that your aim of creating this thread was not only to impart knowledge, you had an agenda. Everyone could see it in your following posts.

First and foremost, WHO THE HELL ARE MY KINSMEN??

Secondly, if anybody breaks the rules, I do not need to tell that person anything. I am known on Nairaland for immediately reporting people to the mods (Some people even think that I'm a mod because I do not waste time in getting people banned if they misbehave), though the mods are not as efficient as they used to be. I recommend it to you too.

obynzo:


Are you this dense in your reasoning? The same igbo man proposed the creation of the south-south region if they wanted to steal would they have proposed the division?

I’m not surprised by his comments, just the number of people who tend to agree with him bothers me.

Most Nigerians are indeed, idiots.

WrittyWritter:


south south people.. I don't know y people feel the need to make us be under one of the three major tribes...We don't speak Yoruba..we don't speak Igbo..We don't speak Hausa..We all have different culture.

I feel the creation of the south south region was actually a good thing..we can be different together.. Because we till have different cultures and speak different languages..Na pidgin be our common language

There is no ethnic group called "SS people", stop being silly

We have Igbos in SS who are still one with those of us in SE.

So when you say SS is not one with SE. It's important you mention your ethnic group, because there is nothing like SS ethnic group.

Enuani Igbos in SS are still one with Igbos in SE
Egbema Igbos in SS are still one with Igbos in SE
Ndoki and Asa Igbos in SS are still one with Igbos in SE.

So next time, do well to represent your obviously tiny and probably insignificant ethnic group in SS and not try to hide behind SS tag that still have significant proud Igbos in it to spin your Igbophobic sweeping statements.

We( Enu-ani in SS Delta North) speak Igbo.

We ( Egbema in SS ONELGA Rivers State) speak Igbo

We( Asa and Ndoki in Oyigbo LGA Rivers State) speak Igbo

We (Isobo in Obubra LGA of Cross River State) speak Igbo.

But you an Isoko, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ijaw, Ikwerre, etc don't speak Igbo, hence can only speak for your own group.

naptu2:


Hahahahahahahahahahaha

I knew that he wouldn't have a sensible response.

Did those threads not show Igbos in a positive light? Is that not what you asked for.

I know the trick you are trying to play.

You can't argue based on facts, so you insult people in order to derail the thread. When that fails you try and derail the thread by talking about other things (as you did in your previous post). When that fails you try and shift the goalpost (as you are doing now).

It's all a waste of time. I'm only moved by superior reasoning, not all these childish games.

You can continue playing them by yourself. You have shown me that you are not serious, so I won't read or respond to your posts anymore. Goodbye.

You are an unrepentant Igbophobic Yoruba Muslim.
Your antecedents proceeds you no matter how you try to hide it.

No one is deceived.

Emyogalanya:
once they want to tell a comfortable lie they will attach an igbo man's name to help market it. How can someone in a prison battling for his life will thinking how to create a region, instead of how to free himself from illegal detention? So ekwueme created SS region and ceded his own igbo people into it along with oil communities that should be under control of SE ? At what point did he command such executive powers.

Ekwueme might have suggested the idea but only for minorities. He never asked for his people to be added to the south-south. This one is clear.

Igboid:


There is no ethnic group called "SS people", stop being silly

We have Igbos in SS who are still one with those of us in SE.

So when you say SS is not one with SE. It's important you mention your ethnic group, because there is nothing like SS ethnic group.

Enuani Igbos in SS are still one with Igbos in SE
Egbema Igbos in SS are still one with Igbos in SE
Ndoki and Asa Igbos in SS are still one with Igbos in SE.

So next time, do well to represent your obviously tiny and probably insignificant ethnic group in SS and not try to hide behind SS tag that still have significant proud Igbos in it to spin your Igbophobic sweeping statements.

We( Enu-ani in SS Delta North) speak Igbo.

We ( Egbema in SS ONELGA Rivers State) speak Igbo

We( Asa and Ndoki in Oyigbo LGA Rivers State) speak Igbo

We (Isobo in Obubra LGA of Cross River State) speak Igbo.

But you an Isoko, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ijaw, Ikwerre, etc don't speak Igbo, hence can only speak for your own group.

I did not say we are one ethnic group... Can't you guys just allow us to be different together.

I'm an Edo girl...I don't know y you people just want to force this your ideology on people..na by force for people to join....do a quick survey and you will find out most of the people you are talking about don't even want to join... Just because you have some similar culture with Igbo's does not make you one..just because I have some similar culture with Yorubas does not make me one....
When we you people understand that Nigeria is more than Yoruba..Igbo..And Hausa/Fulani

ScamHunter:


Who you are is of no essence since wickedness isn't tribe specific. I used Yoruba and Fulani as point of reference because their wicked agenda towards Igbo is clear enough. That's not precluding the fact that the network of evil against our progress doesn't cut across all Nigerians. In any case, thinking that Igbo would leave our kinsmen behind for your wickedness to fester on them is a pipe dream. The earlier you humbres reconcile that in your minds the better for all. All Igbo in Edo, Delta, Kogi, Rivers, CrossRivers, Akwaibom, Bayelsa and Benue must join any exit. Your ranting of referendum is inconsequential. Even your president's last comment should make you sensible to realize Igbo exit is non-negotiable. I'm glad you know it's a constitutional. The Nazis were tried not based on any law made by a country. So there's always a higher law such as articles the UN revert to when the time is right. After all, Nigeria won't be the one conducting it.

I wish you all good luck. Meanwhile, any igbo who wishes to join in your referendum is free to. Last I remember, they are 5 Eastern states. I'm sure there is enough areas to give them to live.

WrittyWritter:


south south people.. I don't know y people feel the need to make us be under one of the three major tribes...We don't speak Yoruba..we don't speak Igbo..We don't speak Hausa..We all have different culture.

I feel the creation of the south south region was actually a good thing..we can be different together.. Because we till have different cultures and speak different languages..Na pidgin be our common language

As someone said earlier you should learn not to use “We”. That's one thing that pisses me off with some of you. Are you speaking for my people who have never hidden their intention to join the South-East. Are you aware that we clamoured different times for Port-Harcourt state from the 1980’s to 1990’s but when it wasn't feasible our fathers began clamouring for Orashi state to be added to the South-East. The same applies to the Anioma who's intention was to add them as the 6th South-East state.

While Naptu might be firm with his analysis of the geo-political zone creation, he wasn't upright with his description of how Ekweme envisaged it.

Abacha created the zones and fine-tuned it to favour the north only. Assuming Ekwueme was in position to create the geo-political zones, I bet he’ll do the following.

1. Add Anioma, Orashi / PH, Benue/Kogi Igbos to the South-East.
2. Add Ilorin, Kabba and Itshekiri to South-West
3. Add Kaduna south, Kebbi south and Adamawa, Taraba to Middle belt
4. Add Ijaws in Ondo to South-South and all that.

Everyone would have been homogeneous to their region and peace would reign.

rottennaija:


Which part of Rivers are you from?

Ahoada East L.G.A ,

naptu2:
Nairalanders have often asked, "What is the South-South? Who created the South-South Zone"? This thread answers those questions.

The South-South is a geopolitical zone in Nigeria. It represents the southernmost part of Southern Nigeria. It is a geopolitical region and like other geopolitical regions of the world, it is not dependent on compass points. There's no Middle East or Far East on a compass, yet these are regarded as regions of the world, just as there is no Midwest or South-Central on a compass, but these are geopolitical regions of the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_East
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Central_United_States


The South-South is one of the 6 geopolitical zones in Nigeria and the 6 zones are: North-Central, North-East, North-West, South-East, South-South and South-West. The zones are not recognised in the constitution, but they are recognised by several acts that have been passed by the National Assembly. These acts require the president to appoint people from all the 6 geopolitical zones into several commissions and boards.

Examples include the National Pension Commission
https://www.pencom.gov.ng/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/THE-PROVISIONS-OF-THE-PENSION-REFORM-ACT-2014-GOVERNING-APPOINTMENTS-TO-THE-BOARD-OF-THE-NATIONAL-PENSION-COMMISSION.pdf

And the Nigerian Communications Commission.
https://ncc.gov.ng/documents/128-nigerian-communications-act-2003/file

The idea of the 6 geopolitical zones was developed by former Vice President Dr Alex Ekwueme and former Ogun State Governor, Chief Bisi Onabanjo, when they were in prison between 1983 and 1985. Dr Ekwueme was the brain behind the idea, while Chief Onabanjo made contributions.

The basic idea was to provide equality between the regions of Nigeria. During the 1st Republic, Northern Nigeria was bigger than the other 2 regions (East and West) combined and there were always fears that it would dominate the country. Dr Ekwueme decided to address this issue by creating a balance.

Furthermore, minority ethnic groups were always complaining that they were being dominated by the 3 big ethnic groups and so his idea was developed in such a way that the minorities would have a voice.

In his idea, there would be an Eastern Region which would be mainly made up of the Igbo ethnic group and a Western Region that would be mainly made up of the Yoruba ethnic group. There would then be a South-South Region that would be mainly made up of the southern minorities.

There would also be a North-Western Region which would be mainly made up of the Hausa and Fulani ethnic groups and a North-East Region which would be mainly made up of the Kanuri ethnic group. There would then be a North-Central Region that would be mainly made up of the minorities in the North.

Dr Ekwueme presented his ideas to former President Shehu Shagari when he left prison. President Shagari had previously suggested something similar, but he told Dr Ekwueme that he had abandoned the idea because people did not accept it.

Dr Ekwueme then presented the idea at the 1995 Constitutional Conference. The idea was rejected, but the head of state, General Abacha, liked and accepted it.

In this interview Dr Ekwueme explains how and why he came up with the idea. The interview was conducted and published a few years before his death and it was republished after his death.




https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/11/ekwueme-bisi-onabanajo-plotted-six-geopolitical-zones-prison/


Pictures below: (1) The 6 geopolitical zones. (2) Dr Alex Ekwueme. (3) Chief Bisi Onabanjo.

NIGERIA IS A VERY BIG FRAUD. THE MAP IS DELIGHTFULLY CRAFTED TO BE SO, TO GIVE THE NORTH ADVANTAGE AND IMPRESSION OF LARGER THAN ...ALL STATS DISTORTED TO CONVEY THIS CONCEPT...UNFORTUNATE

Eastlink:
As someone said earlier you should learn not to use “We”. That's one thing that pisses me off with some of you. Are you speaking for me from Rivers who's people have never hidden their intention to join the South-East. Are you aware that we clamoured different times for Port-Harcourt state from the 1980’s to 1990’s but when it wasn't feasible our fathers began clamouring for Orashi state to add. ONELGA to Imo west. The same applies to the Anioma who's intention was to add them as the 6th South-East state.

While Naptu might be firm with his analysis of the geo-political zone creation, he wasn't upright with is description of how Ekweme envisaged it.

Another brother from rivers has spoken now they can't deny it

Odingo1:

It shows that Igbos meant well for Nigeria and want Nigeria to be a progressive nation but you people hate them.

That's why there will never be Referandum and BIAFRA will never come to pass.

We will all enjoy the Nigeria IGBOS CREATE.

ScamHunter:


I see, you just commented to extend your Fulani induced divide and rule between Igbo and the minorities? It's an old truck. You Yoruba and Fulani are aware that with Igbo and the minorities on one side that you won't cheat them out of their natural resources just as this OP shows - Igbo man working to give the minorities a voice by suggesting the SS. That unity is what you haters of Igbo are fighting with the hope that you'll keep cheating everyone since you guys haven't the oil its longthroat wants to kill you. Anyway, the game is nearly over for you. One day, the minorities will realize that they're better off with 100% than your wicked divide and conquer. About Fulani killing, whatever tribe you are, it's a matter of time before you drink the dregs of your evil. At least you know Igbo are no cowards and capable of defending themselves as they're doing. But can you? Can your tribe stand the Fulani onslaught? Of course they can't since I'm sure you're not Kanuri, Jukun or Langtang, the other three tribes capable of standing up to Fulani apart from Igbo. Na jealousy and wickedness go kill all of you Igbo haters.

There's nothing like divide and rule tactics here, the way the Igbos fight with the other two majority groups as if the minorities don't have a mind of their own is so disgusting. Ask yourself why did Zik failed in these minority areas during the 1979 and 1983 elections. A typical igbo person has a domineering spirit and are very tribalistic, the oppression our forefathers faced in the hands of the Igbos was the reason they fought against them during and after the war. The Yorubas or Housas/Fulanis are not the problem here. Until you accept that there's South South region and that they have a mind of their own and can never be annexed to the Igbos, the better for you

Sincinnati:
If Igbos were hateful and domineering like you rant about, why then did they create South South to foster political unity among the minorities and make them speak strongly in one voice?

Do you guys still have any atom of love in your dead brain cells?

You had no power to create zones. You are always bitter that the zones were created to divide you. Forgetting that the north was also divided into three zones.

Igboid:


Have hateful beings like yourself ever given Ndiigbo (Ekwueme) credits or respect or even gratitude for gifting you a region?

What have you children of hate ever done for Ndiigbo your whole lives?

Ekwueme had no power to create regions. He was never a head of state. You igbos are still bitter that the south south was created.

melzabull:
another hateful soul

Where did Ekwueme mention south-south? Did he also create niger delta?

It's too early to be a dunce

Fool! The region was created to give the minorities a voice just like the north central.

The name doesn't mean a thing.

Hateful dunce!