raumdeuter:


So is football supposed to be, Make I wait till e spoil for my hand like David Luiz?

Smart players hold and release the ball on time, this is not monkey post where you hold onto the ball and get dispossed.
No wonder all the coaches Busquets played with preferred his style of play and he was always number 1 for DM position

Alonso that is slow and needs time to pick pass, he is the easiest player to target and many opponents did this, since they know Alonso will foul them and becme useless from then

Madrid fans, Bayern fans have confirmed the same thing about Alonso because we saw him play for our teams

Pep Guardiola :


He (Alonso) is one of the best midfielders I’ve seen in my life.

raumdeuter:


The latest result was a flaccid 0-0 draw to Shaktar Donetsk in the Champions League and it was result that really highlighted the central issues Bayern Munich are having in buildup play -- and most of the blame for that falls at the feet of Xabi Alonso. Despite the fact that the former Spanish international is only just 32-years-old and coming off the back of winning a Champions League trophy last season with Real Madrid, Alonso is a shade of his former self that saw him win two European Championships and a World Cup with Spain in 6 years. He's been a completely immobile type of playmaker for several years and while his passing ability may still be rivaled only by the likes of Andrea Pirlo or Toni Kroos, it's the rest of the equation that is making him a liability for Bayern Munich.

Just as Wolfsburg and Schalke demonstrated to open the Rückrunde, targeting Xabi Alonso is a viable strategy and one that hurts Bayern Munich far more then it harms yourself. Schalke further demonstrated that combining a high pressing defense that targets Alonso while simultaneously maintaining deep structured defensive lines is a very valuable strategy to killing off Bayern Munich's ability to build play. Furthermore, it also restricts the space for their intricate passing in the final third. Taking a page from the books of those two clubs, Shaktar Donetsk came out and shut down a Bayern Munich attack by first playing compact structured defense, then shutting down Xabi Alonso with the man mark and high press.

https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/bayern-munich-analysis/2015/2/18/8057799/xabi-alonso-bayern-munich-shaktar-donetsk-champions-league-liability-mobility-slow

adisaaowala:

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Trevor012:

So he carried his uselessness from Madrid to Bayern too

raumdeuter:


So is football supposed to be, Make I wait till e spoil for my hand like David Luiz?

Smart players hold and release the ball on time, this is not monkey post where you hold onto the ball and get dispossed.
No wonder all the coaches Busquets played with preferred his style of play and he was always number 1 for DM position

Alonso that is slow and needs time to pick pass, he is the easiest player to target and many opponents did this, since they know Alonso will foul them and becme useless from then

Madrid fans, Bayern fans have confirmed the same thing about Alonso because we saw him play for our teams

Baddestguyp:

Backup DM...for De Jong (Busquets is a dead useless finished player)
Etc

airmark:


How old was Alonso when he joined your team? 33yrs and still made Burnthialeaguedown team of the season. Busquets is already useless at 32 and no top team like Bayern can pay to have his services as it stands. He is like Boathand.

raumdeuter:


That has been Xabis trade mark all through his career, Only those who didnt watch Xabi will claim he can play DM, the same people who are arguing about putting Vidal in DM

At a point he was named Xabi Alonslow

airmark:


How old was Alonso when he joined your team? 33yrs and still made Burnthialeaguedown team of the season. Busquets is already useless at 32 and no top team like Bayern can pay to have his services as it stands. He is like Boathand.

raumdeuter:


Alonso is an excellent CM but a very poor DM, because he is slow, immobile, cannot mark, cannot intercept and he's a foul magnet

Trevor012:

Even as far back as 2008 he was rejected for being slow . Really Alonslow

adisaaowala:


But it is Busquets who has consistently hidden behind the skirts of possession football/collective pressing... na him be the hallmark of a DM abi?

Issokay.

raumdeuter:


Imagine that was Alonslow at 26-27yrs and coaches were already complaining about him

raumdeuter:


How old was Xabi in Madrid when it was already universally known to be slow and a target for teams who can press

adisaaowala:


What's this thing with speed?

The way you are talking - e mean say you no go rate the great Pirlo be that o

raumdeuter:


How old was Xabi in Madrid when it was already universally known to be slow and a target for teams who can press

raumdeuter:


Xabi Alonso like Phillip Lahm is a football legend. Where did you see anyone call him a Bayern legend

adisaaowala:


What's this thing with speed?

The way you are talking - e mean say you no go rate the great Pirlo be that o

airmark:

This was you tagging Alonso a football legend.
Attached you were thanking Madrid for selling the slow Alonso to your team.

Choose one death.

Trevor012:
This one is far back to 2008

Ibime:


Stats aren't sentimental. Sentiment is buying into commentators narrative that Xavi and Iniesta are running the midfield, then when you check the passing stats, it's only Xavi. I also fell for that narrative until I looked deeper into it and watched games in detail to see what's happening in the midfield.

Sentiment is continuing to hold on to that false narrative after Xavi retired and Iniesta could not run midfield with others, yet still holding onto that sentiment. Meanwhile Xavi ran midfield with many others for Spain while Iniesta played on the left wing.

Sentiment is awarding Iniesta Player of the Tournament in a tournament where he had zero goals and zero assists.

Sentiment is calling an AM with the output of Kovacic and less than the output of Willian the best of his generation.

I am very factual about my analysis of that Barca and Spain midfield and what I see is a midfield controller extraordinaire in Xavi, with an activity former doing attaché to his greatness.

Iniesta is simply the luckiest player of all time, protected on all sides by midfielder controllers and goalscorers who took him to trophies. If he played for your club as an AM, you will call for him to be sent on loan with that pitiful output.

raumdeuter:


Pirlo too had to be protected by hardworking midfielders and you dare not expose Pirlo and he wont catch up on pace nor intercept the ball

Pirlos best football days he was protected by hardworking animals like Gattuso, Seedorf and Ambrosini or protected by Vidal Marchisio and Pogba

That is what gives them space to make passes

Pirlo and Alonso greatest weapons are their passes not other things a DM needs

raumdeuter:


[s]Understanding is your problem
Alonso is slow but a Pass god, Same with Pirlo. Zidane is a football god but cannot survive if you need your midfielders to be pressing intensively
Kante is a midfield god but average in passing, etc

You always show symptoms of someone who missed a vital part of early childhood education[/s]

adisaaowala:


Baba, if you check well, my initial comment was a response to a ridiculous attempt at comparing Alonso to Busquets in terms of ball possession/utilisation.

Make una stop to dey disrespect Alonso - na im be my own.

raumdeuter:


Pirlo too had to be protected by hardworking midfielders and you dare not expose Pirlo and he wont catch up on pace nor intercept the ball

Pirlos best football days he was protected by hardworking animals like Gattuso, Seedorf and Ambrosini or protected by Vidal Marchisio and Pogba

That is what gives them space to make passes

Pirlo and Alonso greatest weapons are their passes not other things a DM needs

Adisaaowala:

Busquets' supposed press resistance is largely due to his "Make-e-no-spoil-for-my-hand" style...

To dey compare am with the "Visionary" Alonso is somehow tbh

airmark:


Someone you claimed was a target for opponents and so slow.at Madrid was the same player you were calling a football legend. Why not call him a pass legend?

When will you be responsible on this platform? Do you think Busquets will join Chelsea now and i will start thanking Barca? I dey mad?

You can only deceive mumus in your Aparisports assembly.

adisaaowala:


Baba, if you check well, my initial comment was a response to a ridiculous attempt at comparing Alonso to Busquets in terms of ball possession/utilisation.



Make una stop to dey disrespect Alonso - na im be my own.

raumdeuter:


You spent the whole of yesterday arguing that Alonso was a DM and today saying he is not

I dont even know if English being your 4th language is the problem or watching football from a jaundiced lens

raumdeuter:


[s]Everyone with double-digit IQ will always find your logic or lack of it exhausting. How did your teachers cope? I wont be shocked if they just left you to wallow in your folly and focused on serious students

Kante and Makelele cannot pass at elite level, yet is he not a god midfielder?
Messi cannot head the ball like Giroud so what conclusions can you draw ?[/s]

donstan18:

Zidane has more than 30 individual awards.

That alone, should tell you how good he was.

raumdeuter:


Everyone with double-digit IQ will always find your logic or lack of it exhausting. How did your teachers cope? I wont be shocked if they just left you to wallow in your folly and focused on serious students

Kante and Makelele cannot pass at elite level, yet is he not a god midfielder?
Messi cannot head the ball like Giroud so what conclusions can you draw ?