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Empiree:
lol. You want to cheat they already started debate right away until I let them know you want to join. Yes they have your number

which cheat? I want compare the diff between what they said and what the Jews say

Empiree:
so you too don't understand what I said?. You are reading English translation. Did you guys go to school at all?. They translated Nassara to christian because there is no English or alternative word. But they should have used nazarene instead. I also said that most translators of Quran and Hadith were non-muslims who converted to Islam and those who did not. There were no churches in Medina or Jerusalem in the lifetime of Nabi Jesus and Nabi Muhammad (peace be upon them).

Followers of Jesus were nassara in the city of Nazareth and they were Israelites not christians. Christians are from Rome and they were followers of Paul. Paul simply twisted teachings of Jesus and incorporated it in their Roman pagan religion. And named it Christianity. You guys need to do some research. Don't just be posting screenshots.

Just because it is written in English Hadith doesn't mean it is so. They used CHRISTIANS so that we can understand the message. Some QUR'AN translators did not translate nassara. They left it like it is in its original arabic revelation.. Same with Hadith. Original Arabic is nassara. Take your time and watch the videos above if you can.

It is like saying "Jesus". There is nothing like Jesus in the time of the man you called "Jesus". His name was Yahshua in Hebrew and Isa in Islam. It was Rome that called him "Jesus" and attributed their pagan christian religion to him. The only way for you to debunk me is by proving Jesus mentioned Christian/CHRISTIANITY in your Bible.

Again, followers of Jesus were nassara and Jews to whom he was sent. And his message did not go beyond there. Jesus was not sent to Rome. Rome was pagan Christian city. You are wasting your time following Jesus. That's why today, in Jerusalem, majority religion there are Islam and Judaism.

Are you so confused or you're disturbing your brain? We are both writing and exchanging words in English, if Nassara is the same as Christians why subjected that Christians are not the people of the book quran says and that it was the translators of Quran that translated it to be Christians? Your case is like former IGP Mr Idris that is transmission I means transmission the conclusion apprehensive towards transmission of grand protection and confession transmitter I mean transfer the transmission should I call 911 for you?

Bros eee, you never answer that Medina aspect of this discussion, is there another Medina outside Arabian peninsula where there is no Christian in the days of Muhammad?

ifiokjohn:
which cheat? I want compare the diff between what they said and what the Jews say

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RightChannel:
Are you so confused or you're disturbing your brain? We are both writing and exchanging words in English, if Nassara is the same as Christians why subjected that Christians are not the people of the book quran says and that it was the translators of Quran that translated it to be Christians? Your case is like former IGP Mr Idris that is transmission I means transmission the conclusion apprehensive towards transmission of grand protection and confession transmitter I mean transfer the transmission should I call 911 for you?

Bros eee, you never answer that Medina aspect of this discussion, is there another Medina outside Arabian peninsula where there is no Christian in the days of Muhammad?

it is simple. Tell us famous names of Churches in Medina back then. Tell us where Jesus mentioned CHRISTIANITY or Christian in the bible. Team us where Jesus said his disciples were called "Christian"?.

I have told you about "people of the book". Simple refers to any group of religion family that read Book. Hindu, Buddhists etc also fall in this category. But in the Quran it usually refers to the people related to the area of the Middle East. So because you too are reading Bible, by logical deduction Christians also fall in this category but you are not nassara. Tell us church that Jesus worshipped at. This is the only way I can take you serious.

ThatFairGuy1:
You're mentally disturbed for this insult to the noblest of mankind

Stop crying. There was no insult there. Everything mentioned was what Muhammad did or happened to him

Empiree:
I don't recall having chat with you on this platform. So I don't know what "dose" you are talking about

OK. Ko ma ro gbi lokan e

RightChannel:
Are you so confused or you're disturbing your brain? We are both writing and exchanging words in English, if Nassara is the same as Christians why subjected that Christians are not the people of the book quran says and that it was the translators of Quran that translated it to be Christians? Your case is like former IGP Mr Idris that is transmission I means transmission the conclusion apprehensive towards transmission of grand protection and confession transmitter I mean transfer the transmission should I call 911 for you?

Bros eee, you never answer that Medina aspect of this discussion, is there another Medina outside Arabian peninsula where there is no Christian in the days of Muhammad?

you guys have serious comprehension problems. I have no time for linguistic analysis. Go back up and read again. Better still, you can watch all the videos for your answer.

As for medina, maybe you were blind when I explained that twice

ANTIlSLAM:
You don turn am to insulting words, I trust you when things don fall apart you like to insult person.. If you get sense you won't condemn Britannical encyclopedia and Wikipedia sites simply because they doesn't favours you. But YouTube that favours you is more islamical abi? oponu ode olodo.. SharonLoveth once again, God bless you my sister for revealing the lies of this foolish slave that don't even understand his own Quran and hadith


If not for the sunnah.com that I screenshot you won't agreed you made stupid mistake

Thank you sir

Empiree:
lol. Wikipedia? we are talking in the context of religious history. Wikipedia was created in 2001 but I'm talking about thousands of years of history. See how ridiculous you reason?. You would have done better if you countered with history too. I said in my earlier post that it was QUR'AN translators that used "christians" for Nassara and the reason they did that is understandable.

In case you don't know, most of the translators of QUR'AN were non-muslims or Muslims who studied or resided in western countries such as Yusuf Ali. Most of the rest were Jews (muhammad Assad) and load of Christians in the West who studied Islam and Arabic such as Marmaduke Pickthall. They were all converts to Islam. They had no better word to use for Nassara but christian bcus of some similarities btw nassara and CHRISTIANs. There were no church, no Christians in Medina in the time of prophet Muhammad.

Christians and Christianity came from Rome

Another lies

Empiree:
lol. Wikipedia?  we are talking in the context of religious history. Wikipedia was created in 2001 but I'm talking about thousands of years of history. See how ridiculous you reason?. You would have done better if you countered with history too. I said in my earlier post that it was QUR'AN translators that used "christians" for Nassara and the reason they did that is understandable.

In case you don't know, most of the translators of QUR'AN were non-muslims or Muslims who studied or resided in western countries such as Yusuf Ali. Most of the rest were Jews (muhammad Assad) and load of Christians in the West who studied Islam and Arabic such as Marmaduke Pickthall. They were all converts to Islam. They had no better word to use for Nassara but christian bcus of some similarities btw nassara and CHRISTIANs. There were no church, no Christians in Medina in the time of prophet Muhammad.

Christians and Christianity came from Rome

Christians and Christianity came from Rome, says your Chief Imam right?

AgentNairaland:
Christians and Christianity came from Rome, says your Chief Imam right?

Christianity was not known in the lifetime of Jesus at all. It was after Jesus controversial death that Christianity emerged in Rome. But ofc, some Romans went to area of Judah to investigate history of Jesus. This is why today, Bible is just a mix of history books not a DIVINE REVELATION.

Empiree:
Christianity was not known in the lifetime of Jesus at all. It was after Jesus controversial death that Christianity emerged in Rome. But ofc, some Romans went to area of Judah to investigate history of Jesus. This is why today, Bible is just a mix of history books not a DIVINE REVELATION.

I think someone asked you this question "Can you follow yourself"? but the question was later removed. Christians means followers of Christ Jesus, you don't expect Jesus Christ to follow himself or called himself as a Christian.

Quran that plagiarized what is there in Bible you think is a divine revelation book? Or Muhammad that was possessed by demons was a divine being?

It was in Antioch disciples were first called Christians and not in Rome, Antioch is not even in Rome.

Act 11:26

And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

AgentNairaland:
I think someone asked you this question "Can you follow yourself"? but the question was later removed. Christians means followers of Christ Jesus, you don't expect Jesus Christ to follow himself or called himself as a Christian.

story. Christianity is a religion or way of life. Hence, is Jesus came to establish christianity, he must have laid the foundation on Christianity. Point out where in the bible where Jesus mentioned Christianity?.

Quran that plagiarized what is there in Bible you think is a divine revelation book? Or Muhammad that was possessed by demons was a divine being?

story

It was in Antioch disciples were first called Christians and not in Rome, Antioch is not even in Rome.

Act 11:26

And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

shows you lack it. Rum in the QUR'AN encompasses larger areas and later Rum (Rome) split into two. Ar-Rum (Arabic: الروم‎, 'ar-rūm meaning: The Rome) is the 30th chapter (sūrah) of the Quran. ... in the time of Prophet Muhammad referred to the Byzantine Greeks (Eastern Roman Empire), hence the title is sometimes also translated as "The Greeks" or "The Byzantines". So you can see it is a large empire before break up.

From your write-up, there is no link btw Christianity in Antioch and Jesus. There is also no unequivocally proof that Jesus desciples went to Antioch.


Tradition holds that the first Gentile church was founded in Antioch, Acts 11:20–21, where it is recorded that the disciples of Jesus Christ were first called Christians (Acts 11:26). It was from Antioch that St. Paul started on his missionary journeys. it says desciples were RECORDED not desciples were in Antioch.


Christianity is religion of Paul not Jesus. Christianity was established AFTER Jesus. Christianity hearsay amor Jesus not teachings of Jesus but Paul

Empiree:
story. Christianity is a religion or way of life. Hence, is Jesus came to establish christianity, he must have laid the foundation on Christianity. Point out where in the bible where Jesus mentioned Christianity?.

I ask you the question you were asked before, CAN YOU FOLLOW YOURSELF? You insisted to answer.

Jesus Christ never came to preached religion and that is why your Quran says he shall be highly exalted on earth and in heaven. Jesus Christ is the only way to life. His purpose on earth was not on religious matter. Unlike Allah your Islamic god that shown himself as a Muslim and lover of Islam. His disciples were named after him, (i.e. CHRIST's LIKE)

Empiree:
story

you were shocked!!! Most of the write up and stories you have in Quran were copied from the Holy Bible

Empiree:
shows you lack it. Rum in the QUR'AN encompasses larger areas and later Rum (Rome) split into two. Ar-Rum (Arabic: الروم‎, 'ar-rūm meaning: The Rome) is the 30th chapter (sūrah) of the Quran. ... in the time of Prophet Muhammad referred to the Byzantine Greeks (Eastern Roman Empire), hence the title is sometimes also translated as "The Greeks" or "The Byzantines". So you can see it is a large empire before break up.

From your write-up, there is no link btw Christianity in Antioch and Jesus. There is also no unequivocally proof that Jesus desciples went to Antioch.


Tradition holds that the first Gentile church was founded in Antioch, Acts 11:20–21, where it is recorded that the disciples of Jesus Christ were first called Christians (Acts 11:26). It was from Antioch that St. Paul started on his missionary journeys. it says desciples were RECORDED not desciples were in Antioch.


Christianity is religion of Paul not Jesus. Christianity was established AFTER Jesus. Christianity hearsay amor Jesus not teachings of Jesus but Paul

Why can't you make use of google.com? Let google guilds you. Antioch has nothing to do with Rome. Don't listen to what your imam is telling you. Paul never founded Christianity, I quoted a verse for you why can't you read and assimilate, refute not to be brainwashed, do your own research. Disciples were not Christians before the incident of what happened in Antioch, the gathering of Children of God was only referred to as Church and not as Christians. It was in Antioch they were first called Christians not in Rome, Not in Saudi Arabia, Not in Jerusalem. STOP ARGUING BLINDLY let google tells you the history of Antioch you will see it there by yourself

Christian never means Paul's like, Christian never means followers of Paul, Christianity is not a religion founded by Paul. Bros stop putting shame on Islam and entire Muslims community here on public forum like this

AgentNairaland:
I ask you the question you were asked before, CAN YOU FOLLOW YOURSELF? You insisted to answer.

Does your question makes sense?. No

Jesus Christ never came to preached religion and that is why your Quran says he shall be highly exalted on earth and in heaven. Jesus Christ is the only way to life. His purpose on earth was not on religious matter.

Rookie

you were shocked!!! Most of the write up and stories you have in Quran were copied from the Holy Bible

that means you can't fault QUR'AN since everything therein was copied from Bible

Why can't you make use of google.com? Let google guilds you. Antioch has nothing to do with Rome. Don't listen to what your imam is telling you. Paul never founded Christianity, I quoted a verse for you why can't you read and assimilate, refute not to be brainwashed, do your own research.

even with screenshot I provided you blind to see it?

Disciples were not Christians before the incident of what happened in Antioch, the gathering of Children of God was only referred to as Church and not as Christians. It was in Antioch they were first called Christians not in Rome, Not in Saudi Arabia, Not in Jerusalem. STOP ARGUING BLINDLY let google tells you the history of Antioch you will see it there by yourself

shot yourself in the foot. Show us where Jesus mentioned "church"?.

Christian never means Paul's like, Christian never means followers of Paul, Christianity is not a religion founded by Paul. Bros stop putting shame on Islam and entire Muslims community here on public forum like this

this is Paul for you HEBREWS 6:1

I posted earlier with screenshots that Christianity was founded AFTER JESUS and you are still saying Christians are followers of Jesus? . You don't know the meaning of AFTER again?

Empiree:
Does your question makes sense?. No

Because you're ignorance, does your own question makes any sense? You are asking to quote where Christ Jesus mention Christian and you know Christians means followers of Christ, you were asked if you can follow yourself but rather you keep asking to mention where Christ Jesus mention Christian. Are you not ignorance?

Empiree:
Rookie

That is the fact, Jesus Christ's mission on earth was not on religious matter unlike your Allah that him and his angels prayed for Muhammad, what a shame

Empiree:
that means you can't fault QUR'AN since everything therein was copied from Bible

That means your Quran is not a divine book you can place above Holy Bible

Empiree:
even with screenshot I provided you blind to see it?

I should follow a screenshots that doesn't have a source, it means your brain not working properly, Come with a genuine source then we can reason together. I read one of your post where you kicked against Britannica Encyclopedia and Wikipedia because they never favours you in anyways

Empiree:
shot yourself in the foot. Show us where Jesus mentioned "church"?.

This is it:

Mathew 16:18

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

This is where Jesus Christ mentioned Church

Empiree:
this is Paul for you HEBREWS 6:1

I posted earlier with screenshots that Christianity was founded AFTER JESUS and you are still saying Christians are followers of Jesus? . You don't know the meaning of AFTER again?

Are you this daft or you are lost completely?
I said Disciples were first called Christians in Antioch AFTER the Ascension of Christ Jesus to heaven, Jesus Christ never founded Christianity, Paul never founded Christianity. Christians means followers of Christ, I asked from you if you can follow yourself with the way you keep on asking me to state where Jesus Christ mention Christians or Christianity. I don't even know maybe you have comprehension problem. You don't expect Jesus Christ to mention Christians when Christians means Followers of Christ, Can you follow yourself? NO

SharonLoveth:
Thank you sir

Serve him right

Empiree:
your problem can not be solved on social media. You need to meet Muslim comparators one in one for proper religious education. You are confusionists. This is the problem as long as you believe in bible because bible is your problem.

If I don't believe in Bible, I should believe in Quran right?

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