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Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by Empiree: 3:13pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
SharonLoveth:okay..I must have skipped that by mistake. Good God created Mary. So who's Jesus, God or man?. Don't tell me you answered this already and please don't come up with blood, water, spirit etc. Answer is yes or no. Is Jesus God? |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by Empiree: 3:31pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
SharonLoveth:whether you answered my questions or not, this is what your problem is. Until you can unravel this confusion in christiandom, Bible will continue to be under microscope. We live in a world where 2 + 2 = 5 Just as 1 + 1 +1 = 1 If you are confused Who is god?, Jesus Is Jesus the son of Mary?, Yes Who created Mary?, God. Who is God?, Jesus Jesus is the begotten son., Yes Who is his father?, God. Who is God?, Jesus. Jesus is a servant of God?, Yes Who is God?, Jesus. Jesus died on the cross?Yes Who resurrected him?, God. Who is God?, Jesus Jesus is a messenger?, Yes Who sent him?, God. Who is God?, Jesus. Did Jesus worship while on earth?, Yes Whom did he worship?, God. Who is God?, Jesus. Did God have a beginning?, No Then who was born on 25 DEC?, Jesus. Who is God?, Jesus Where's God?, In heaven How many are there in heaven?, Only one God. Where's Jesus?, He is sitted on the right hand of his father. Who is God?, Jesus. Then how many are they in heaven?, Only one God Then how many seats?, One Where's Jesus?, Seated next to God. Then how are they seated?, On one chair Its only understood by those with the holy spirit. Who is God? Jesus. Ha haha what a confusion. So beautiful to be a Muslim. Allah (SWT) have mercy on us all and grant us His straight path for us not to go astray ifiokjohn |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by ifiokjohn(m): 4:02pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
Empiree:We see in Daniel 7:3 we see he said in his vision he saw one like the son of man coming he approached the ancient of days( God) and was led to his presence where all power and dominiom was given to him forever.. his kingdom will have no end.. You see...I have just given you another passage from the old testament Bible talking about Jesus.. Abi you go talk Say this one na fraud too. I don't know what you mean by Hebrew writers was a fraud. He never told you Jesus was equal to God. From that passage you can even see who is Greater Jehovah. For him to tell Jesus to sit on his right. Ok if you say he was referring to David.. how did David find himself in heaven to the extend he could sit at the right hand of God? If you can answer that...you will get ur ANSWR. And yes Jesus is the son of God. He is God yes but not equal with Jehovah. God almighty. That's why we call Jesus the mighty God and Jehovah almighty.. For Goodness sake how many times would.i tell.you that Jesus was sent to the lost sheeps of isreal. All christians.knows that. But Jesus himself sent his disciples to the world to go and preach the gospel and baptize people in the name of the Father, the son, and the holy spirit. ( Abi this one you go talk say that's not the right translation?) No you Muslims study the Bible with prejudice.thats your problem. You study the Bible so as to find a way to give credence to.your Quran.. but I'm sorry the Bible never talked about a prophet that will come called Muhammed or another book that will come called Quran. I don't need to learn what your Quran mean by Throne cause from my Bible I understand already....Just as I just gave you the passage of Daniel7:13... Abi you go say na another David this time around?.. No Christian told you Paul was righteous.. every one sins and Paul isn't suprrnatural not to sin...even King David sinned. So what are you saying? Thank God you said to the isrealites ..now why are you bringing Muslims here? Were Muslims in existence doing g the times of Jesus? What the passage Matthew you quoted talked about is that he has been sent to the Jews but Jesus sent his disciples to.ghe world to us.. before his Ascension what was his words to the DISCIPLES? He said "Go ye now preaching the gospel to all nations.. baptzing them in the name of the father, son and the holy spirit"...you see this passage? Isn't Jesus TALKING about the world in this instance?... Ok if animals sacrifice was later option..I ask why will God needs a sacrifice before he forgive sins? Why doesn't he just forgive like that? By the way the Human sacrifice you talking about wasn't a sacrifice for forgiveness of sin but to test Abraham's faith. You see you..you don't even know the Bible. It has always been animal sacrifice before Jesus came to die and do.away with that. Now thank God you said Jesus didn't want to die so he cried to God to take the cup away... He must know he was meant to die...if he wasn't supposed to die for sins.. he won't have asked God to take the cup away from him. Now there is also where he said not as I will but yours be done. In other words..what if God will still remain for him to die? So then he died to achieve God's will. If Jesus wasn't the one that was crucified as your quran said but another then...why will the person on that cross promise that thief on the cross with him that he will be with him in paradise?...what authority does he has to give that kind of promise? Only God can promise someone eternal life but the man just gave that thief a promise of eternal life... Only Jesus can give that promise because he is the son of God and has all authority. Now remember when Jesus was arrested and his disciple strike out the ear of that servant..and Jesus put it back.. remember Jesus words..that he can call on 12 legions of angels to save him and they will come but this must happen to fulfil the prophecy. Meaning he must die so that God will be done. For the gospel sake... I believe even your Quran tells you it is right to lie for the Quran sake. By the way.. Paul wasn't righteous..he sinned like every man has. Even Jesus disciples doing those times must had sinned once or twice.. no biggy. Amd I keep telling you..if Paul was a scammer then Jesus disciples would have known. If Paul was a scammer than Simon Peter, Mathew Luke etc that went on numerous preaching missions with him would have known. For eg, Jesus would've told them. After all it was even Jesus that went to ANANIAS to tell him to go to Paul and heal his blind eyes. ....so tell me then how would Paul had manuever all of them when they speak to Jesus and angels come to them? I swear Muslims don't think. All you people that think Paul was a scammer are dull. If Paul was a scammer all Jesus disciples would have known fast fast cause they would have been told. We see Paul even go on missions with Barnabas, Peter, etc. I ask you again...if those disciples still talk to Jesus or have angels visit them how won't they know? And also how will Paul have the power to heal or do miracles? Where would he have the power to bring that little child that fell from that building back to life? Even Muhammad that you guys say is a prophet didn't had that power. See can we take this to what's app?... This is my WhatsApp no 08167623573..chat me up or send yours let me chat you up. We can argue much better there |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by Empiree: 4:02pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
These are the real teachings of Jesus before Paul changed them FIVE PILLARS OF ISLAM ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE: 1. Shahada (testimony of faith - Mark 12:29) 2. Salat (daily practical prayers - Matthew 26:39) 3. Zakah (annual aims giving not tithes - Hebrew 10:24) 4. Fasting (Ramadan - Matthew 4:1-1) 5. Hajj (Psalm 84:5-6) THE TRUTH FROM THE BIBLE Wudhi (ABLUTION) IN THE BIBLE Leviticus. 19:27 Leviticus. 21:5 Jeremiah. 9:25 1 chronicles. 19:5 Exodus. 30:17 Exodus. 40:30 John. 13:4 HOW TO DRESS IN THE BIBLE Exodus. 28:1 WOMEN SHOULDN'T SPEAK IN CHURCH Ezekiel. 13:17 Corinthians. 14:34-38 Tito. 2:3 1 Timothy. 2:11 Revelation. 2:19 1 timothy. 2:8 HOW TO WORSHIP IN THE BIBLE Genesis. 17:1 Psalm. 95: 6 Ezekiel. 43:3 Kings. 18:39 Psalm. 5:7 Numbers. 20:6 Nehemiah. 8:6 Matthew. 26:36 Matthew. 17:1 Revelation. 7:9 IS WINE/PORK ALLOWED Leviticus. 11:7 Deuteronomy. 14:8 Isaiah. 65:3 Proverbs. 31:3 Isaiah. 4:11 Amos. 6:5-7 Habakkuk. 2:15 Leviticus. 10:8 Isaiah. 66:17 PROPHECY OF MOHAMMED IN THE BIBLE Genesis. 49:10 Genesis. 16:7-14 Deuteronomy. 18:18 Deuteronomy. 34:10 Jeremiah. 34:18 Isaiah. 21:13 Isaiah. 19:19 Daniel. 7:13 Mathew. 21:33-43 Galatians. 4:21 John. 1:19-22 John. 14:30 John. 16:7-14 Act. 7:37 John. 14:15 Revelation. 7:9-12 Revelation. 19:10-16 SHARIAH IN THE BIBLE Deuteronomy. 6:1 Deuteronomy. 13:-1-11 Deuteronomy. 22:13-22 Deuteronomy. 21:18-21 Deuteronomy. 22:25 Mathew. 15:3 Joshua. 1:18 Hebrews. 10:28 Leviticus. 20:9-16 Leviticus. 20:27 According to the Islamic doctrine, Muslims should believe in all the prophets sent by Allah almighty among the prophet are Adam, Noah, Jacob, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed and lives (Quran 3:84) |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by ifiokjohn(m): 4:04pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
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Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by Empiree: 4:51pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
ifiokjohn:see another fraud. This is talking about Jesus?. Jesus story is NT Wetin concerned Daniel and Jesus . The verse you quoted has nothing to do with Jesus at all. I haven't seen any biblical exegesis that related this with Jesus. You are so funny. Okay let's assume it is talking about Jesus. This is the verse After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. It is talking about some demons in succession. So Jesus was part of the demon, I guess. Abi you go talk Say this one na fraud too.Yes. In all the 10 commentaries I read about this verse only one tried to relate it with "blood of Jesus". It doesn't take PhD to realize this attempt was fraudulent I don't know what you mean by Hebrew writers was a fraud. He never told you Jesus was equal to God. From that passage you can even see who is Greater Jehovah. For him to tell Jesus to sit on his right.So who are we to believe now?. You and SharonLoveth are trying to prove Jesus is equal to God. One of you even said he's God. Now you are contradicting yourself. You guys are confusionists. You are not confident in your doctrine. Maybe you need to read yourself and SharonLoveth's posts and you get to see that you guys are claiming Jesus is God or equal to God. That's why I asked clear cut question but none of you answered. And yes Jesus is the son of God. He is God yes but not equal with Jehovah. God almighty. That's why we call Jesus the mighty God and Jehovah almighty..See again here you said again Jesus is God . God forbid 8 can never be Christian. See confusion. Okay let's do it this way. Who is Jehovah? Who is Yahweh? Who is God? Who is Jesus? Are these 4 entities same person or 4 different beings? |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by advocatejare(m): 4:55pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
ThatFairGuy1:Provide proof Antiislam, let him deal with these: Is it possible to have a son without a consort? Yes: "She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, 'that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us':It is a matter (so) decreed." Qur'an 19:20-21 No: "To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things." Quran 6:101 Does Allah speak directly with people? No: It is not fitting for a man that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration, or from behind a veil, Quran 42:51 Yes, to Moses: "Of some messengers We have already told thee the story; of others We have not;- and to Moses Allah spoke direct" Quran 4:164 How long is Allah's day? One thousand years: "Yet they ask thee to hasten on the Punishment! But Allah will not fail in His Promise. Verily a Day in the sight of thy Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning." Quran 22:47 Fifty thousand years: "The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years:" Quran 70:4 |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by ThatFairGuy1: 5:01pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
This is why I hate you, you're a Hypocrite. I've answered this MANY TIMES. Even from your different quotes, whoever is sensible would understand that the question is already answered from it. Why are you always afraid of answering my questions but chose to always beat around the bush. You're also confused, it's obvious advocatejare: |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by advocatejare(m): 5:14pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
ThatFairGuy1:Stop crying, just provide the proof and give me link to the original gospel |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by advocatejare(m): 5:19pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
Empiree:Didn't you read in the same literature that he was buried the same day after his body had been well prepared and he resurrected the third day and He's alive forever. But your own literature said Muhammad died after years of agony from the poison he ate at Khaibar, he had his aorta cut and died while on the chest of Aisha with the two of them exchanging saliva. Muhammad's dead body was left unattended to for 3 days and he wasn't offered a bathe as stipulated in your tradition. He died filthy and was buried filthy and remained rotten in the grave. Thatfairguy1 also knows this 1 Like |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by ifiokjohn(m): 5:54pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
Empiree:Bros can we talk about this on WhatsApp no more. Nairaland is tiring. It not easy for me to divide your replies and give mine. What's app will be more easier for me. Add me up on 08167623573 or send me ur digits let me do this adding. By the way Daniel 7:13-14 was talking about Christ. He said everything Dominion was given to the person forever. It said one like the son of Man... ( Who is acknowledged as such if not Jesus) And there is no how God will give a beast Dominion forever and ever and all nations will bow to him and his kingdom will have no end... Even the devil was given a limited no of time on Earth ...so how come God will give a beast forever? Read that portion well abeg... |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by ifiokjohn(m): 6:02pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
ifiokjohn: That portion talk about the son of man. The son of man coming with the clouds to the ancient of days( God almighty) and power ND Dominion was given to him that all nations shall bow and worship him forever and ever. Hear that word "FOREVER" His kingdom shall no pass away. Even Revelation talk about when Christ shall rule forever and his kingdom shall not pass away. Isn't is same thing with what Jesus told his disciples? "all powers and authority nin heaven and on Earth has been given to me) Though you're right Jesus wasn't in existence by then but this was a prophecy which the prophet Daniel saw.. a prophecy is something that is meant to happen in the future. A vision about heaven. How authority was given to Jesus. If you don't know that this is Jesus and he has been given authority forever..I wonder how then will you teach the Christians the Bible. Even when I was little that I read the Bible alot.i understood this was Jesus ( no prophet or priest told me) because it all points to Jesus. even Satan wasn't given this time frame...how then would a beast be? Oga think na |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by Empiree: 7:09pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
advocatejare:Iwo o si sinu aye jare. You have expired |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by Empiree: 7:20pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
ifiokjohn:you sure you want to do this? . I so much love your proposal . This is where you will be nailed. This is where your eyes go open because, though, I rarely talk religion on WhatsApp but if you don't mind I have to forward your number to WhatsApp Muslim/Christian comparative religion Your will know that i be pikin dealing with you here compared to them. And make sure you give them your best shots. You will come to NL to testify to what I told you before, that Muslims still teach you your Bible. So it is WhatsApp group with other Christiana. Maybe you will spice it up. Are you ready?. Don't be surprised if you get invite. |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by ifiokjohn(m): 7:53pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
[quote author=Empiree post=102857334] you sure you want to do this? . I so much love your proposal . This is where you will be nailed. This is where your eyes go open because, though, I rarely talk religion on WhatsApp but if you don't mind I have to forward your number to WhatsApp Muslim/Christian comparative religion Your will know that i be pikin dealing with you here compared to them. And make sure you give them your best shots. You will come to NL to testify to what I told you before, that Muslims still teach you your Bible. So it is WhatsApp group with other Christiana. Maybe you will spice it up. Are you ready?. Don't be surprised if you get invite.[/quote I don't do groups abeg. I Never even finish my school group na that one I want go do. See it a one on one interactive group. Me and you no another Biko. I don't even answer group msges or participate in that. You can call me a loner shall but that's me. So if you want to me in a group..it a waste of time...I go just delete myself. I want me and you what's app talk cause it be more interactive that way. So all these Christians Muslims group I don't subscribe too ok? Just you and me chatting on WhatsApp. That's what I want. You're free to seek knowledge from your group and come and reply me no problem but don't add me in any group cause I go just delete my self ok. This is between me and you. Not me and your group people. If your group people are peppering the Christians there I don't care cause me I have my own conviction diff from theirs ok. |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by advocatejare(m): 7:53pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
Empiree:It's you and your rotten dead prophet that is expired. I'm alive and will continue to be, my Jesus is alive. I follow the one who can give life. You follow the one who can only offer you death and calamities. But it's not too late for you. Stop following the best of the deceivers, Al-makireena 1 Like |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by Empiree: 8:13pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
advocatejare:dialogue with your fellow Christians have been doing did without anyone insult another. Your comment is the very reason I don't like to dialogue with you because you have no sense. Your fellow Christians have been respective. You and other clown don't deserve my attention |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by Empiree: 8:14pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
ifiokjohn:lol I respect that. You already feel the heat . Well if they add you you have option to opt out but before you do so let them know your preference |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by ifiokjohn(m): 8:17pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
Empiree:feel which heat? Seriously? I'm just not Someone that do group chat. I don't even participate in my department own except once awhile. |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by Omoodua007: 8:20pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
Foolishness of the highest order Arguing over foreign religion |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by ifiokjohn(m): 8:32pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
Empiree:You can add me up no worries. But also do chat me up too. This battle is between me and you |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by ifiokjohn(m): 8:33pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
Empiree:You can add me up to the group no worries. But also do chat me up too. This battle is between me and you |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by Empiree: 8:33pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
ifiokjohn:I don't either. I simply watch and learn. But I'm sure they will test you apart. I sent just Daniel 7 you quoted and they already start bombarding with replies. They will test you sissy and you will realize you know nothing of the bible. Let just send some This is just tip of iceberg
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Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by Empiree: 8:34pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
ifiokjohn:I will urge them to add you |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by ifiokjohn(m): 8:35pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
Empiree:ok den do add me. Got some questions of my own. If that isn't Jesus being referred to then..in the Daniel 7:13-14 then who else was been referred too? Whose kingdom will be eternal without coming to an end. |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by Empiree: 8:42pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
ifiokjohn:don't worry. You will meet Muslim scholars of the bible there . They are young guys |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by ifiokjohn(m): 8:46pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
Empiree:Ok.im waiting. Wanna see Dem replies! Who knows I fit come get Muslim gf there ..lol |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by ifiokjohn(m): 8:47pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
Empiree:Ok. But before they do. We don't you and I continue our own in the WhatsApp. Chat me up na or send ur whatsapp msge |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by Empiree: 8:52pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
ifiokjohn:Wait for it |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by advocatejare(m): 9:02pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
Empiree:You started stupidity and you were given a dose of your pills and you're here crying. Next time, don't start what u cant finish because I'll give you fire for fire. 1 Like |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by SharonLoveth(f): 10:01pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
Empiree: If you want to quote my Monika, pls do base on what I tagged you with... WHERE DID I SAID JESUS IS EQUAL TO Jehovah, Yahweh, Elohim? I only told you Jesus Christ is God with proofs from Biblical references. WHY LYING? IS THAT WHAT YOU GAIN from allah and Muhammad to be lying? Are you asking me who is Jehovah, Yahweh, etc? YOU HAVE SHIFTED THE GOAL POST AS USUAL? Try to answer my questions, stop using unacceptable tactics to escape them or better still, just accepted the fact that you're a failure |
Re: Primate Ayodele To MURIC: You Are A Disgrace For Comparing Buhari To Jesus by Empiree: 10:04pm On Jun 18, 2021 |
advocatejare:I don't recall having chat with you on this platform. So I don't know what "dose" you are talking about |
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