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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:42pm On Jun 23, 2021
Ibime:

Spy defections are always rumoured ogbeni. No one will confirm or deny spy movements.

So, that's why the rumours must be believed?

Sorry, but if you don't mind, buda will await confirmation or I might as well believe the unconfirmed rumours emanating from q.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 8:44pm On Jun 23, 2021
basilico:


I posted an article from americanthinker.com saying he provided a copy of his laptop some three hours ago. Not Q.

America thinker is Q, mumu

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 8:46pm On Jun 23, 2021
budaatum:


If you abandon your preconceptions, Ben, you will fully understand buda. Though, I confess that I write in such a way as to require work to be understood as I don't write for the braindead, and if I quote you its because I believe your brain is very much alive.

Please see below how a wise person described America to see why it is a fallacy to claim America is only this or that. I have intentionally left out whom I quote so as not to bias your opinion, but when you do find whom I've quoted they'll tell you buda shared it and one of the two likes it got was mine.


Exactly.
Fact - there are racist,
Fact - there are craziness
But Obrigado claim the country is a racist country just don't make sense. We know this because no country outside Africa that blacks or any ethnic group has achieved a lot compared to the United States.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:47pm On Jun 23, 2021
basilico:


A credible source. Mmmm none you can mention offhead.

No. I can not mention a credible source.

Every source is a human source and they are all fallible which is why one must do one's own research to ascertain the truth.

There is one step before you go looking though, two to be precise. First you must have Christ spit on the ground and rub it in your eyes, and then must you go and bath in the Pool of Siloam so that you can see. It as after that that you qualify to ask and knock and seek in order to understand.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:49pm On Jun 23, 2021
benalvino2:

Exactly.
Fact - there are racist,
Fact - there are craziness
But Obrigado claim the country is a racist country just don't make sense. We know this because no country outside Africa that blacks or any ethnic group has achieved a lot compared to the United States.
I did not read Obrigado's post or I might have disagreed with him. I read your post though and I completely agree with you.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:53pm On Jun 23, 2021
budaatum:


If you abandon your preconceptions, Ben, you will fully understand buda. Though, I confess that I write in such a way as to require work to be understood as I don't write for the braindead, and if I quote you its because I believe your brain is very much alive.

Please see below how a wise person described America to see why it is a fallacy to claim America is only this or that. I have intentionally left out whom I quote so as not to bias your opinion, but when you do find whom I've quoted they'll tell you buda shared it and one of the two likes it got was mine.


An understanding of America is to recognize that democrats want power and to keep it for ever.There is nothing they will not do for power whether it's blatant electoral fraud
They dropped the requirement of 60 senate votes for Judge nominations so that they could help Obama add leftist judges. You saw how Trump used that to appoint conservative judges.
Now the dems want the filibuster to go intoto.
If they lose the house and senate all their legislation can be undone.The dems only care about now - how to push their agenda... like the green new deal, immigration, gun control, race baiting, education curriculum, gender identity nonsense, fighting wars, etc.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:58pm On Jun 23, 2021
basilico:

An understanding of America is to recognize that democrats want power and to keep it for ever.
So, in your own opinion, the Republicans only want power for a short time and would not do anything to keep themselves in power?

I guess that explains why single term drumptf behaved like a jackass and did not care about the half a million who died on his watch and said it was what it was.

May they both continue to get exactly what they deserve and may the losers continue wailing.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 9:02pm On Jun 23, 2021
budaatum:

So, in your own opinion, the Republicans only want power for a short time and would not do anything to keep themselves in power?

I guess that explains why single term drumptf behaved like a jackass and did not care about the half a million who died on his watch and said it was what it was.

May they both continue to get exactly what they deserve and may the losers continue wailing.

Of course they want power but they do not change policies and laws to attain it. Look how the democrats are even talking about packing the court, making DC a state etc. Why can't they just play on the rules that are set already? Why try to adjust stuff to benefit them only?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:06pm On Jun 23, 2021
benalvino2:

Of course they want power but they do not change policies and laws to attain it. Look how the democrats are even talking about packing the court, making DC a state etc. Why can't they just play on the rules that are set already? Why try to adjust stuff to benefit them only?
Changing voting rules is changing rules too so I can't see why one would blame only one side for rule changing.

Any rules anyone changes would come back and bite them when they are not in the presidency or in power so I would caution both sides to thread with care.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 9:07pm On Jun 23, 2021
budaatum:

Changing voting rules is changing rules too so I can't see why one would blame only one side for rule changing.

Any rules anyone changes would come back and bite them when they are not in the presidency or in power so I would caution both sides to thread with care.

Which rules did they change?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:15pm On Jun 23, 2021
benalvino2:


Which rules did they change?
No water on the voting queue, for starts!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 9:20pm On Jun 23, 2021
budaatum:

No water on the voting queue, for starts!

Lol, that's state legislation. Has nothing to do with house and senate. Dems want to pass a bill that will give them the power to override every state, while Republicans want the states to make their own laws according to the constitution.

Besides your take on the water thing is not how it is. There is water, people can come with their own water or use a facility set aside at the polls.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:28pm On Jun 23, 2021
benalvino2:

Lol, that's state legislation. Has nothing to do with house and senate. Dems want to pass a bill that will give them the power to override every state, while Republicans want the states to make their own laws according to the constitution.

Besides your take on the water thing is not how it is. There is water, people can come with their own water or use a facility set aside at the polls.

So, when I say "water", all you understand is "water" despite the fact you know "water" is not all they are doing. Lol.

Ben, do you really believe that "water" has "nothing to do with house and senate", or do you want to convince buda that "water" has "nothing to do with house and senate"?

I ask because I know you are not that dumb so it must be that you think buda is that dumb, and I would appreciate if you confirm that that is what you believe just so I know it is.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 9:33pm On Jun 23, 2021
budaatum:


So, when I say "water", all you understand is "water" despite the fact you know "water" is not all they are doing. Lol.

Ben, do you really believe that "water" has "nothing to do with house and senate", or do you want to convince buda that "water" has "nothing to do with house and senate"?

I ask because I know you are not that dumb so it must be that you think buda is that dumb, and I would appreciate if you confirm that that is what you believe just so I know it is.

That is not a law that will put democrats or Republicans in power as the law affects both parties. That law was pass by the state legislators. DC has nothing to do with it.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:39pm On Jun 23, 2021
benalvino2:

That is not a law that will put democrats or Republicans in power as the law affects both parties. That law was pass by the state legislators. DC has nothing to do with it.

The "water" law or which law?

The so labelled voter suppression laws, and DC as a state, both affect elections to the house and the senate which are about majorities in both so I can't see how all the gerrymandering doesn't affect the house and the senate when they are about majorities in both the house and the senate.

Surely, you must know this Ben

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:42pm On Jun 23, 2021
So Kamala Hyena Harris suddenly wants to go to the Border? And is this just a coincidence that this is happening after Trump had accepted an invitation by Texas Governor to visit the Border next week? grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 9:55pm On Jun 23, 2021
obixcel:
So Kamala Hyena Harris suddenly wants to go to the Border? And is this just a coincidence that this is happening after Trump had accepted an invitation by Texas Governor to visit the Border next week? grin

They said this will happen

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:15pm On Jun 23, 2021
budaatum:


The "water" law or which law?

The so labelled voter suppression laws, and DC as a state, both affect elections to the house and the senate which are about majorities in both so I can't see how all the gerrymandering doesn't affect the house and the senate when they are about majorities in both the house and the senate.

Surely, you must know this Ben

Given that people are queuing water stations can be set on a table after some intervals ( like in marathons). Do you really want someone walking up and down the queue talking to the voters and offering water or inducements. Who cannot afford to carry water by the way?

Water is not the issue Its the contact with campaigners at the voting station being reined in.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 10:25pm On Jun 23, 2021
basilico:


Given that people are queuing water stations can be set on a table after some intervals ( like in marathons). Do you really want someone walking up and down the queue talking to the voters and offering water or inducements. Who cannot afford to carry water by the way?

Water is not the issue Its the contact with campaigners at the voting station being reined in.

To further show budaatum the law is not anything that will favour any party

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 11:07pm On Jun 23, 2021
basilico:


Democracy and Republic are two different things.
The election bill has failed at the senate.

What particular law have the republican party passed to suppress votes?
Not giving out water to queued voters?
An ID to vote.. Racist yet you cant hop into a plane, buy liquor, open account etc without one.


Michigan Senate finds no evidence of fraud in 2020 election
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/559822-michigan-senate-finds-no-evidence-of-fraud-in-2020-election

Michigan Senate report recommends AG investigate false election fraud claims
https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/23/michigan-senate-recommends-attorney-general-investigate-false-election-claims/5312166001/

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 11:17pm On Jun 23, 2021
basilico:


Does make some sense about the defector The details provided by the defector seem too good to be true for anyone possessing such info.
Especially the Hunter Biden laptop which had photos of him with an underage girl- his late brother's daughter.

---Then Trump's DoJ and FBI have every right to arrest and charge Hunter Biden to court if incriminating photos or videos about minor where found on his laptop---for almost a year until when Trump left the WH---nothing happen---so stop referring to Hunter Biden's laptop---however a GOP Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida was actively being investigated by the same Trump's DoJ and FBI during the same period---with solid evidence of transporting a minor across state line for sex purposes---

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 11:22pm On Jun 23, 2021
basilico:


Democracy and Republic are two different things.
The election bill has failed at the senate.

What particular law have the republican party passed to suppress votes?
Not giving out water to queued voters?
An ID to vote.. Racist yet you cant hop into a plane, buy liquor, open account etc without one.


The bill didn’t fail sir

The debate did

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 11:24pm On Jun 23, 2021
obixcel:
So Kamala Hyena Harris suddenly wants to go to the Border? And is this just a coincidence that this is happening after Trump had accepted an invitation by Texas Governor to visit the Border next week? grin

After asking her for months to go

Now she goes, then yeah read a different angle to it

That’s your fvcking business. Did she go ?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 11:33pm On Jun 23, 2021
After being asked about Critical Race Theory, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley delivers an answer every American should watch

https://twitter.com/i/status/1407753160760889351

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:49am On Jun 24, 2021
benalvino2:


To further show budaatum the law is not anything that will favour any party

Neither would the State of Washington DC nor banning the filibuster or packing the Supreme Court favour only Democrats, in the long run. It would in fact come back to bite them in the ass given enough time.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:55am On Jun 24, 2021
basilico:

Given that people are queuing water stations can be set on a table after some intervals ( like in marathons). Do you really want someone walking up and down the queue talking to the voters and offering water or inducements. Who cannot afford to carry water by the way?

Water is not the issue Its the contact with campaigners at the voting station being reined in.
Can people not walk up and down the queue talking to whoever they want without offering them anything as it is? I mean, I can stand at the junction down the road and try to induce people as they walk to the polling station, don't you think?

It's not just about water, Bas. There's a lot more restrictions being imposed that the same people never bothered with when they were winning that should raise a red flag of impropriety to a non-biased person, is what I think.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 5:40am On Jun 24, 2021
budaatum:


Neither would the State of Washington DC nor banning the filibuster or packing the Supreme Court favour only Democrats, in the long run. It would in fact come back to bite them in the ass given enough time.

You are ridiculous.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 5:43am On Jun 24, 2021
budaatum:

Can people not walk up and down the queue talking to whoever they want without offering them anything as it is? I mean, I can stand at the junction down the road and try to induce people as they walk to the polling station, don't you think?

It's not just about water, Bas. There's a lot more restrictions being imposed that the same people never bothered with when they were winning that should raise a red flag of impropriety to a non-biased person, is what I think.

You are knowingly being ridiculous. It has been explained to you and you have shut your brain just for argument sake.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:32am On Jun 24, 2021
feedthenation:


Michigan Senate finds no evidence of fraud in 2020 election
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/559822-michigan-senate-finds-no-evidence-of-fraud-in-2020-election

Michigan Senate report recommends AG investigate false election fraud claims
https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/23/michigan-senate-recommends-attorney-general-investigate-false-election-claims/5312166001/


I should believe them. 240 affidavits were filed and then subpoenas were issued.
I would like to see their report refuting the affidavits filed point by point.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:35am On Jun 24, 2021
budaatum:

Can people not walk up and down the queue talking to whoever they want without offering them anything as it is? I mean, I can stand at the junction down the road and try to induce people as they walk to the polling station, don't you think?

It's not just about water, Bas. There's a lot more restrictions being imposed that the same people never bothered with when they were winning that should raise a red flag of impropriety to a non-biased person, is what I think.

What other egregious restrictions have been imposed that would hinder voting.
They have not yet banned dominion tabulator machines though I can see that coming in the near future.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:40am On Jun 24, 2021
Timiofak:


After asking her for months to go

Now she goes, then yeah read a different angle to it

That’s your fvcking business. Did she go ?
She waits 92 days to declare she is going.Her main docket .
She is the immigration czar dah.
She is saying they need to provide aid to the latin American countries whose citizens are fleeing endemic corruption, poverty and violence.

I would think the best thing would be to pressurize the govts to be accountable before giving them aid. Hold free elections for a start..
...... America now cannot advice other nations on how to conduct free elections.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:50am On Jun 24, 2021
feedthenation:


---Then Trump's DoJ and FBI have every right to arrest and charge Hunter Biden to court if incriminating photos or videos about minor where found on his laptop---for almost a year until when Trump left the WH---nothing happen---so stop referring to Hunter Biden's laptop---however a GOP Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida was actively being investigated by the same Trump's DoJ and FBI during the same period---with solid evidence of transporting a minor across state line for sex purposes---

The FBI is investigating Hunter. Or rather pretending to.
Any time democrats in the club are investigated nothing happens.
When its Trump its an all out assault.
The dailymail verified the contents of Hunter laptop .
Anthony Weiner laptop is still with FBI.Anything came out of it? Nada



Famed conservative filmmaker
Dinesh D'Souza is warning that the
FBI "has become a grave threat to
our national security."
"In fact, I would say the FBI now
poses a greater threat to our
national security than any white
supremacist group," he continued,
"Thugs with badges are always more
dangerous than thugs on the street."



Ill give you an example. after Jan 6 a Trump supporter who pled guilty yesterday deleted his facebook account the following day.
FBI interviewed him weeks later and included a charge of document tampering ..for deleting his FB account.
Hillary Clinton emails were subpoenaed and she deleted 33k emails and crashed her server.Nothing happened.

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