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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 2:17pm On Jun 24, 2021
Jodera:
When you mean childish, do you mean overplaying with the ball when the team needs goals or you mean who can actually do this "reaction" that the neymar picture illustrated?


I mean being unserious with ball and playing it to your own satisfaction.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 2:29pm On Jun 24, 2021
Ibime:


Norwich or Rangers. He cannot expect much game time at Wolves

I don't know if you saw that optajoe image hailing Jorgs as an anchor grin grin grin

Isn't it funny that you don't think that Gilmour will break into Wolves first team that has Dendonker and Rueben Neves in Midfield yet the one he is supposedly better than is chasing him away while playing at the highest level

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 2:45pm On Jun 24, 2021
popizaino:



I mean being unserious with ball and playing it to your own satisfaction.
Lol...
Win draw or lose, nobody does it like okocha abeg.
Also, I don't think Ballotelli belongs to that list cos I see him as someone who has attitude problem instead of straight down being unserious.

But Na okocha carry the crown well, no cap grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 3:00pm On Jun 24, 2021
grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:02pm On Jun 24, 2021
swiz123:


Perhaps you should follow in my step and accept the hot L Benzema served you yesterday. His second goal was a beautiful finish which made the L even hotter for you to swallow. I'd understand if you are trying to let it cool down a bit before doing the needful.

You must have missed these before and during the match.

airmark:
4 games no goal, anything short of hattrick from Benzema is unacceptable.





airmark:




At Aparisports, we don't count AWOOF PK, he must score 3 open play goals today to serve any L and pay for his embarrassing 4 games No goal run.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:03pm On Jun 24, 2021
Skimpledawg:

grin grin

Airmark wants to dilute it with Olive oil before sipping that L.

No L anywhere.

1 open play goal in 5 matches don't thrill us at Aparisports. You can ask our CEO, Raumdeuter.


airmark:
4 games no goal, anything short of hattrick from Benzema is unacceptable.





airmark:




At Aparisports, we don't count AWOOF PK, he must score 3 open play goals today to serve any L and pay for his embarrassing 4 games No goal run.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:15pm On Jun 24, 2021
swiz123:


I don't know if you saw that optajoe image hailing Jorgs as an anchor grin grin grin

All those stats don't take into account jogging behind runners. There's no stat for that. Just like you posted he had the best tackling stats Vs Man City and all 4 of their chances were due to him jogging behind players. I will avail you of GIFs if you forgot.


swiz123:

Isn't it funny that you don't think that Gilmour will break into Wolves first team that has Dendonker and Rueben Neves in Midfield yet the one he is supposedly better than is chasing him away while playing at the highest level


Teams prioritise their own players over loan players mostly for financial reasons especially if their own players are performing. Wolves play with two midfielders - Neves for control and Dendoncker the runner. He will be competing directly with Neves and no way Wolves will let a good player of theirs like Neves depreciate in value on the bench while appreciating the value of a Chelsea loanee. Jorginho will also chop bench behind Neves in the same situation, 100% confam.

I will remind you how West Brom put Gnabry on bench for their own player Jonathan Leko. You should know how loan system works by now. I will point you to my post in 2016 on Gnabry Vs Leko so you know what knowledgeable people think about when judging loan prospects for their players. You can also see why I said Jeremie Boga didn't get playing time at Rennes as Rennes prioritise their own players. Of course we all know now that Jeremie Boga is a bigger player than Rennes.


Ibime:

A traditional loan however would pay £0-£1m for use of the player over the year, with no incentive for the loaning club to develop the player especially if they have another player who is close to the level of the loanee.

A traditional loan is Serge Gnabry, a youngster who played so well for Arsenal 2 years ago, only to be told by Tony Pulis that he is not good enough for West Brom after one appearance. Are you kidding me?

Tony Pulis does not care about the development of the player and would not take the time to develop or coach him into what he wants. A privilege that was afforded to Jonathan Leko, a 17 year old similar style of player from West Brom academy who is afforded the coaching, effort and given ample game time as soon as it looked like West Brom would be secure in the topflight. Pulis simply has no incentive to coach Gnabry, but he has to coach Leko.

Boga is not better than Dembele, rightly so. But Dembele himself is good enough to take 1st team shirt at Chelsea.

My point being that the fact a player did not get games on loan is not evidence of a player's worth. In Boga's case, this was a bad loan because he was put in a no-win situation against Rennes best player and biggest asset.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MercylessMercy: 3:28pm On Jun 24, 2021
UEFA cancels away goal rule undecided undecided undecided

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 3:45pm On Jun 24, 2021
MercylessMercy:
UEFA cancels away goal rule undecided undecided undecided
one of the consequences of super league, they want to make the competition favorable for elite teams

Away goal has always been the key that small teams use to overcome big teams

Fairness and football pyramid in the mud

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 3:58pm On Jun 24, 2021
Havertz10:
one of the consequences of super league, they want to make the competition favorable for elite teams

Away goal has always been the key that small teams use to overcome big teams

Fairness and football pyramid in the mud
den it makes no sense for 2 teams to play for 180mins to decide who proceeds...meaning dat knockoff games should be played in a neutral venue for just 90mins,,d elite teams can prove demselves by winning even if it gets to penalties... uefa should be careful with D's nonsense they are trying to introduce

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 3:58pm On Jun 24, 2021
Havertz10:
grin

Willian .

If activity forming was a person grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by limcar: 4:38pm On Jun 24, 2021
Uefa scraps away goal. Hurray! I'm so so happy. In other news, toolz says nickiminaj is a better rapper than lilwayne and i'm like wtf
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 4:45pm On Jun 24, 2021
Swissh, have you seen the message or make I resend am?

undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 5:13pm On Jun 24, 2021
Skimpledawg:
Swissh, have you seen the message or make I resend am?

undecided

Swissh is back? shocked shocked shocked

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PDPGuy: 5:23pm On Jun 24, 2021
UEFA (and other confederations) should scrap extra time and go straight to penalties if both teams are deadlocked after 180 mins of action…
However extra time should be retained for the final

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 5:30pm On Jun 24, 2021
Ibime:





Teams prioritise their own players over loan players mostly for financial reasons especially if their own players are performing. Wolves play with two midfielders - Neves for control and Dendoncker the runner. He will be competing directly with Neves and no way Wolves will let a good player of theirs like Neves depreciate in value on the bench while appreciating the value of a Chelsea loanee. Jorginho will also chop bench behind Neves in the same situation, 100% confam.

I will remind you how West Brom put Gnabry on bench for their own player Jonathan Leko. You should know how loan system works by now. I will point you to my post in 2016 on Gnabry Vs Leko so you know what knowledgeable people think about when judging loan prospects for their players. You can also see why I said Jeremie Boga didn't get playing time at Rennes as Rennes prioritise their own players. Of course we all know now that Jeremie Boga is a bigger player than Rennes.



Your loan theory is shortsighted. I wanted to believe age plays a vital role in your theory, but then I thought more on it.

Westbrom developed Lukaku; Newcastle developed Loic Remi; Palace slotted Mamadou Sakho into the first team, same as Watford for Ake; Aston Villa developed Kyle Walker, Bolton did their part in Sturridge.

All these players excelled on loan because the loanee clubs needed them and they were good.

Lemme just assume that Wolves don't really need Gilmour and as such, might not make him a priority.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:36pm On Jun 24, 2021
swiz123:


Your loan theory is shortsighted. I wanted to believe age plays a vital role in your theory, but then I thought more on it.

Westbrom developed Lukaku; Newcastle developed Loic Remi; Palace slotted Mamadou Sakho into the first team, same as Watford for Ake; Aston Villa developed Kyle Walker, Bolton did their part in Sturridge.

All these players excelled on loan because the loanee clubs needed them and they were good.

Lemme just assume that Wolves don't really need Gilmour and as such, might not make him a priority.

No they don't. You simply look at whether they have good players in those positions and even if your player is better, they will not give your player minutes over their own prospect. He should fit in nicely at Norwich as Norwich have no standout DM.

Also the players you mentioned (Sakho, Lukaku) cost millions to loan and were done with a view to a purchase, which is a financial commitment they must get utility from, unlike a young player like Gilmour.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 5:38pm On Jun 24, 2021
I can't wait for next season to start cool

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:41pm On Jun 24, 2021
MorataFC:
I can't wait for next season to start cool

Hakimi to PSG is almost done

Adjust your team
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kantebets(m): 5:50pm On Jun 24, 2021
devvy44:


Hakimi to PSG is almost done

Adjust your team
chelsea just dull for transfer market this year
This time last year we don sign Werner
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:11pm On Jun 24, 2021
Kantebets:
chelsea just dull for transfer market this year
This time last year we don sign Werner

Better to be safe than sorry. I am glad we missed Hakimi at £60m
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kantebets(m): 6:17pm On Jun 24, 2021
Ibime:


Better to be safe than sorry. I am glad we missed Hakimi at £60m
Na who Chelsea wan sign like this as competitor to James
Time dey go small small
Before u know we are in July and no serious deal/agreement has been made
Make Chelsea no rest on their last season success cos other teams Dey vex
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 6:18pm On Jun 24, 2021
Ibime:


Better to be safe than sorry. I am glad we missed Hakimi at £60m
na Traore you want na

Since Hakimi isn't coming, make Chelsea just sell Hakim Ziyech. And buy Maddison or Grealish
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:29pm On Jun 24, 2021
Amoto94:
I don't see Belgium going all the way to win it with the way they're playing currently there are visible cracks that a team like Portugal, Croatia, Denmark, Germany and spain will exploit, they dont have midfield controller and their center backs are slow, add to the the fact that they're playing wingers as wingbacks. I see France, Portugal and to some extent Italy and Germany making it to the semis. Croatia would've been in the miss but they're missing Mandzukic and Rakitic.
England are not playing convincingly and heading to the knockout rounds without a cohesive unit will prove disastrous for them, they should drop Rice for Philips, get Henderson involved, Sancho or Saka should start henceforth.
Germany should start Goretzka alongside Kroos to provide defensive cover and goal threat from midfield, Hummels need a rest let Sule replace him to provide that height and awareness needed at the back, Musiala should be the first name on the substitute list henceforth that boy changed things when he came on for the last minutes, Havertz should add grit to his game and he will be more impactful

I agree with your analysis on Germany
I think Gundogan should be dropped for Goretzka and Muller come back into the lineup for Sane

Musiala Sane and Werner as substitute

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:33pm On Jun 24, 2021
swiz123:


Actually, that goal is on Ginter. Hummels already told him to keep an eye on Szalai as he (Hummels) was backing the striker. It was on Ginter to track Szalai and compete for the header as Szalai was in front of him.

This is me being honest and unsentimental.

What was Hummels doing when Szalai got behind him? That is the problem of defenders who shy away from responsibility andare always looking for someone to bail them out

The goals
11. Minute, Adam Szalai, 0: 1 | Germany is shocked early! Nego initiates a Hungarian counterattack and serves Sallai. He plays a long ball on Szalai, who beats Hummels in the air duel and heads the thing past Neuer into the goal. The BVB player doesn’t cut a good figure here

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 6:33pm On Jun 24, 2021
If Dortmund wants to make them best deal this transfer window, they would sell Haaland, 100m + Abraham and then trigger Isak's release clause and then sell him for 70m. They will make 150m amd still have a good striker in Abraham
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 6:33pm On Jun 24, 2021
thorrvik55:


Swissh is back? shocked shocked shocked
The egbé dey off dey on.

Swissh pay off your debt.

No dey make me repeat am abeg.
You don big pass 30k
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 6:34pm On Jun 24, 2021
raumdeuter:


I agree with your analysis on Germany
I think Gundogan should be dropped for Goretzka and Muller come back into the lineup for Sane

Musiala Sane and Werner as substitute
If Low doesn't start Muller Havertz Werner against England he will lose that game.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:35pm On Jun 24, 2021
airmark:


Where's Benzema's world cup gold medal?

Girouds wey no get shot on target nor world cup goal dey talk about medal
Classic Ghana must go carry along
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:36pm On Jun 24, 2021
BlueAngel444:
Rumdeuter is this the team that disgrace Poland to not even finish third with 4 points shocked

If we have useless players like airmark Kryschokewack chopping red card and dropping one disasterclass after the other what do you expect
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:37pm On Jun 24, 2021
BikeMan:
You're getting old and eating all your words.

When did we start praising penalties? Oh! I forgot winning the league title you call local title is now an achievement.

So na only penalties Benzema score yesterday?

Swallow your L and rest somewhere to digest it
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:38pm On Jun 24, 2021
Kantebets:
Na who Chelsea wan sign like this as competitor to James
Time dey go small small
Before u know we are in July and no serious deal/agreement has been made
Make Chelsea no rest on their last season success cos other teams Dey vex

£60m for Hakimi is not priority jor.

Since when did we start spending £60m just for competition in a position that is not that fundamental.

That's how clubs become useless by overspending in the wrong areas and not having money where they really need it. Were we sleeping when West Ham spent £5m on Coufal? Anyway I read from an informed source that Chelsea interest in Hakimi did not go beyond a polite enquiry.


Livramento is there who is a top prospect. Let me not mention Dujon Sterling who should be in our squad by now if not for injuries and was actually ahead of James before an injury derailed his progression.

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