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Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 5:32pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:ACCORDING TO JEHOVAH WITNESS, CHRIST IS AN ANGEL (MICHAEL) I’M DONE WITH YOU |
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:30pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
OBALOLA55: YES! That's our belief and thanks for finding nothing tangible to say against pure worship! Isaiah 54:17 |
Re: Is Jesus God? by TheSourcerer: 9:02pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
OBALOLA55:I dont worship no one , all I know is I quit been eloquent on proving or disproving fiction , hey a butterfly ..... |
Re: Is Jesus God? by 143WaZoBia: 9:31pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
OBALOLA55:What I posted was Isaiah 9 : 6 I got busy. |
Re: Is Jesus God? by 143WaZoBia: 9:40pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
OBALOLA55:Listen I’ve read both books. The Quran inspiration was drawn from the Bible both Old and New Testament. |
Re: Is Jesus God? by Kobojunkie: 9:42pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
143WaZoBia:Where was inspiration for the Bible New Testament drawn from? Where was inspiration for the Old testament drawn from? |
Re: Is Jesus God? by 143WaZoBia: 10:08pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:The New Testament like the Old Testament are in different parts. If you are talking about inspiration you need to read outside this books. Depending on the angle you are arguing from. You don’t even understand my argument. I’m arguing neither as a Christian nor as Muslim. You don’t even know that the Quran you are trying to defend was written by inspiration from the Bible. Quran was written about 500 years ago. The holy Bible has been for thousands of years. Tell me where you think the inspiration of the Quran came from. Have you read the book of Enoch? There are many books that have the same story as the Bible except different actors and little distortions. And this books predate the holy Bible. Like the story of Moses didn’t first appear in the Bible also story of the flood didn’t first appear in the Bible. Jesus is from the lineage of David whom was a descendant of Isaac whom was from the lineage of Abraham, Mohammed happens to be from the lineage of Abraham through Ishmael. How was this lineage traced? Through the Quran? Don’t forget the Bible wrote about the Ishmael that Mohammed was said to come from? Or where else did Mohammed know about Ishmael or Abraham? Or Moses? Or Issa If you think the holy the Bible mentioned Mohammed through Isaiah whom the Quran didn’t mention at all. Don’t you think there’s a connection? |
Re: Is Jesus God? by Kobojunkie: 10:18pm On Jun 25, 2021 |
143WaZoBia:I see you like to make a lot of assumptions of persons you converse with. Are you going to answer the questions I asked or do I simply move on to conversing with a more open minded being elsewhere? |
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 1:37am On Jun 26, 2021 |
143WaZoBia:STOP SAYING RUBBISH MR MAN HOW CAN AN UNLETTERED PROPHET COPY BIBLE EVEN PROPHET ISAIAH PROPHESIED ABOUT A BOOK THAT WAS GIVEN TO UNLETTERED PERSON AND SAID “READ” GO AND READ A PAGE THAT WAS DEDICATED TO YOUR TYPE IN THE QURAN SURAH MUNAFIQUN,(HYPOCRITES) EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE SAYING HERE IS TABLED THERE. WAS SURAH MUNAFIQUN (THE HYPOCRITES) COPIED FROM THE BIBLE TOO WAS THE COMPREHENSIVE DESCRIPTION OF THE ‘HOUR’ COPIED FROM THE BIBLE TOO DID PROPHET MUHAMMAD COPY THE FIRST FOOD OF THE BELIEVERS IN HEAVEN FROM THE BIBLE TOO DID BIBLE TELL US WHAT GOD WILL ASK THE PROPHETS ON THE DAY OF RESURRECTION DID BIBLE EXPLAIN HOW PEOPLE WOULD BE ASSEMBLED TOGETHER ON THE DAY OF RESURRECTION DID THE BIBLE EXPLAIN WHAT THE RESURRECTED BEINGS WILL BE ASKING EACH OTHER BESIDE THEIR GRAVEYARD DID THE BIBLE GAVE YOU CLEAR EXPLANATION ABOUT THE CREATION OF ADAM DID THE BIBLE EXPLAIN WHAT LEAD TO EVICTION OF SATAN FROM HEAVEN DID THE BIBLE TELL US PHARAOH KILLED HIS WIFE JUST BECAUSE SHE BELIEVED IN THE GOD OF MOSES GOD GUIDES WHOM HE WILLS AND EQUALLY LEAD ASTRAY WHOM HE WILLS THE SAME GOD THAT SENT MOSES TO PHARAOH BLOCKED HIS HEART SO THAT HE WILL NOT BELIEVE, AND THATS A SIGN FOR MANKIND PHARAOH IS THE ONLY UNPRESERVED DEAD BODY THAT DID NOT DECAY DID BIBLE EXPLAIN THAT TO US TOO GOD WAYS ARE NOT THE WAY OF MEN NOW TELL ME, WHERE DID AN UNLETTERED MAN GOT THAT KINDA INSIPRATION FROM THE ABOVE WRITE-UP IS SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN |
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 1:44am On Jun 26, 2021 |
TheSourcerer:LETS HAVE A LIL DISCUSSION 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:11am On Jun 26, 2021 |
The highlighted means what? Continue deceiving yourself, Muhammad was a confirmed liar who just seized the opportunity to override gullible slaves in Mecca and made them die for him until he was captured and killed by the slave owners. He deceived their slaves by telling them that they're not slaves to any man but God, the slaves liked his gesture but how are they going to get their freedom? Muhammad asked them to fight for their freedom. That's how he began gathering (runaway) slaves and disguising as if they've become equal to him. He was telling them things he used to hear from the Catholics back then as his Sugar Mummy was a staunch Catholic who always travel to world trade centers back then with Muhammad. So it was the few things he could remember that he was mimicking before those slaves who preferred to be with him than their cruel masters. All his sons were killed during wars with those coming to fight to recapture their runaway slaves, his only surviving descendants at his death was little Fatima who died six months later. For your information, demons are everywhere and they are prepared to support any religion as long as you're going to continue promoting fallacies. So don't let Islam run you mad there's nothing in it, Christianity is the only way to God that's why Satan and his demons are multiplying fake religions in the name of Christianity. You accused someone of running away from your argument but you did exactly the same thing when you don't know how to disprove true Christianity! OBALOLA55: 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus God? by TheSourcerer: 7:01am On Jun 26, 2021 |
OBALOLA55:of course sure. |
Re: Is Jesus God? by 143WaZoBia: 9:27am On Jun 26, 2021 |
OBALOLA55:Lol. Did you know that your prophet lived with some catholic monks were he learned about the Bible? I don’t think you can be savaged. You have been typing with caps lock from get go. Do you know what it means? It means that you have been shouting. Doesn’t make any sense arguing with you. |
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 9:37am On Jun 26, 2021 |
143WaZoBia:SO HE COPIED WHAT TRANSPIRED BETWEEN LUCIFER AND GOD FROM THE BIBLE HE COPIED THE WHOLE EVENTS THAT WOULD HAPPEN ON THE DAY OF RECOMPENSE FROM THE BIBLE HE COPIED HOW PHARAOHS WIFE DIED FROM THE BIBLE A CHRISTIAN MONK NAWFAI WARAQA WHO WAS THE FIRST ELDERLY MAN TO BELIEVE IN HIS PROPHETHOOD WAS COPIED FROM THE BIBLE MAY GOD SAVE ME FROM THE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT THAT AWAITS HELL DWELLERS ON THE DAY OF RESURRECTION. WHATEVER YOU ARE SAYING HERE IS NOT SURPRISE TO ME BECAUSE GOD DEDICATED A VERSE FOR YOU HELL DWELLERS. MAKE I BUST YOU HEAD MORE, THE PROPHETS ARE HIGHER IN RANK THAN THE ANGELS, GOD DID NOT TEACH ANGELS WHAT HE TAUGHT HIS PROPHETS. |
Re: Is Jesus God? by 143WaZoBia: 10:24am On Jun 26, 2021 |
OBALOLA55:That’s why I said some distortions and extra messages. What he wrote about he wrote about most of the people the Bible already told about were where you see the distortions like the story of Christ. The Bible already wrote about Christ. All the Maggi he added was to buy Christians over. Can you proof that the Lucifer had a conversation with God? |
Re: Is Jesus God? by 143WaZoBia: 10:38am On Jun 26, 2021 |
OBALOLA55: |
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 10:41am On Jun 26, 2021 |
143WaZoBia:THAT MEANS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE STORY OF CREATION. NOW TELL ME ABOUT THE STORY OF CREATION ACCORDING TO BIBLE. WHAT DID THE BIBLE TELL YOU ABOUT JINN |
Re: Is Jesus God? by 143WaZoBia: 10:42am On Jun 26, 2021 |
OBALOLA55:There’s a curse in the Quran for people who read and don’t do what’s there in. That’s many of you believe like this. Agboye esin is all you need. Take all the last day doom from your head man. That’s why I’m having problems with this books. I don’t think that’s how a God will operate. I read the Quran because I wanted to learn about God in another view but what I saw there was scary. God is too big for all that. He took the dinosaurs out without much ado. Took Neanderthal and other species out for us to grow or nature took them out or history out. Chances are he even didn’t take them out but when the time is right the right thing will happen. There are many things you need to know outside religion. Gods creation also didn’t limit to heaven and earth the books said he created heaven and earth but it’s only in those books that you will find heaven. But I understand you. You can convince a babalawo that Oduduwa didn’t come from heaven, you can’t convince him that God didn’t give Oduduwa power to create heaven and earth and that he did. With such believe people have prayed and there prayers answered. Countries, empires, nations, pride, victims and so much has been built on this belief and it worked well. Don’t you think there’s more to God than these books? You can’t proof anything to me outside the Bible and Quran, you can’t also proof anything there in that the Arabs didn’t put in place. I can show you Opa Oranmiyan but you won’t believe in it instead you will belief in Mecca. I beg you. Seek knowledge to set you free. Shalom. You have totally derailed this topic for too long. I was only trying to proof to people that those calling Jesus God are right according to the Bible. You asked me in several quotes to post a Bible verse that’s the only Bible verse I have posted here. You won’t even allow this on an Islamic post. Why do you guys do this so conveniently? |
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 10:52am On Jun 26, 2021 |
143WaZoBia:GOOGLE GENEALOGY OF THE PROPHETS. ALL PROPHETS OF GOD ARE PATERNAL BROTHERS ONE THING ABOUT YOU HUMAN WORSHIPPERS IS THAT YOU DON’T WANNA SEEK KNOWLEDGE. DO YOU EVEN KNOW THAT I AM NOT A MUSLIM I BELIEVE IN ISLAM BECAUSE I STUDIED HOLY BOOKS. YOU CANNOT LIMIT YOURSELF TO BIBLE ALONE AND CLAIM TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE. READ BIBLE, QURAN AND OTHER HOLY BOOKS AND THEN DRAW YOUR CONCLUSION. ALL THE PROPHETS OF GOD STARTING FROM ADAM PREACHED ONENESS OF GOD AND NOT TRINITY |
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 11:06am On Jun 26, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:LOL THE GUY IS SHIFTING GOAL POST. |
Re: Is Jesus God? by 143WaZoBia: 11:38am On Jun 26, 2021 |
OBALOLA55:Lol. God worshiper. What me I’m telling you is if you think Isaiah wrote about the prophet. How did the prophet know that? Did the prophet read the Bible? |
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 12:02pm On Jun 26, 2021 |
143WaZoBia:I’M DONE WITH BRUH. GOOD LUCK TO YOU |
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:38pm On Jun 26, 2021 |
Thank God this is social media! When you don't know how to proceed with the nonsense and ingredients Islam infused in your head the next thing is to get swords (weapons) but that's no more working so take your leave, nobody forced you into the thread in the first place! OBALOLA55: |
Re: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 10:40pm On Jun 26, 2021 |
OBALOLA55:According to the Bible Yes !!
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Re: Is Jesus God? by xproducer: 4:57am On Jun 27, 2021 |
143WaZoBia: ====== You did well by quoting Isaiah 9:6 , however you are wrong! Let me say first that we are mortal, and do not fully comprehend an Almighty, infinite GOD Who has mercifully revealed Himself throughout the Holy Bible as: ONE (Deuteronomy 6:4, Zechariah 14:9, Mark 12:29) - Also: “Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God." - Isaiah 44:6 ...and yet... Triune! - "For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one." -1 John 5:7 So, we speak humbly... The Lord JESUS says in Revelations 1:7-8 - "Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen." “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." The Lord JESUS, The CHRIST is the Almighty, and the only Savior! "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” - Acts 4:12 GOD says that HE is the only Savior - "Yet I am the Lord your God Ever since the land of Egypt, And you shall know no God but Me; For there is no savior besides Me." - Hosea 13:4 (Isaiah 45:21) We know that GOD made all things - natural and supernatural! (Genesis Chapters 1 and 2). Notice! "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” - Genesis 1:26 The Lord JESUS, The CHRIST is the Word of GOD and He made all things! - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men." - John 1:1-4 Still regarding the Lord JESUS, The CHRIST - "in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist." - Colossians 1:14-17 Finally, one cannot truly compare the Holy Bible/true Christianity and the Quran/Islam because they are fundamentally different and The Almighty GOD "is not the author of confusion but of peace..." - 1 Corinthians 14:33 The Holy Bible and the prophesies therein where complete several hundred years prior to the Quran! Note again that the core message of the Holy Bible is a call to faith and belief in the Lord JESUS, The CHIRST as Savior, without which there is no redemption from the second death! "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." - John 3:16 ----- "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [a]instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." - 2 Timothy 3:16 "...for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit." - 2 Peter 1:21 |
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:25am On Jun 27, 2021 |
Don't mind him according to what those Arabs infused in their heads Muhammad has been created before Adam! So he's just playing hide and seek with other people's religious beliefs! Janosky: |
Re: Is Jesus God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:29am On Jun 27, 2021 |
The highlighted was dubiously added to God's word by trinitarian translaors it was not so in earlier manuscripts! xproducer: |
Re: Is Jesus God? by 143WaZoBia: 7:05am On Jun 27, 2021 |
xproducer:I’m blown. You did well sir. Good morning |
Re: Is Jesus God? by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:46am On Jun 27, 2021 |
143WaZoBia:yes Jesus is almighty God we don't have two God |
Re: Is Jesus God? by OBALOLA55(m): 7:53am On Jun 27, 2021 |
Janosky:WHY ARE YOU QUOTING ME SIR |
Re: Is Jesus God? by xproducer: 2:54pm On Jun 27, 2021 |
143WaZoBia: ============ To GOD be all the glory... greetings! |
Re: Is Jesus God? by Janosky: 12:43am On Jun 28, 2021 |
OBALOLA55:The claim you attributed to JWs is right in your Bible. Daniel 10:13 & Genesis 16:7-13 Geneva Bible ©1599. This is a public forum,Sir. 1 Like |
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