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Foolishbuhari:
Bro that guy is telling you the correct thing. On a manual car, to save your clutch, you brake first then as your RPM drops, you engage clutch and drop gears or put the gear on neutral.

Driving otherwise and you'd be changing clutch plates regularly. Imagine driving along a bad stretch of road at low gear and clutching intermittently. You'd burn out your clutch. The saving grace of most folk is that Manual transmissions are very solid and are more tolerant to bad driving.

that guy has destroyed many transmissions and gear boxes with his way of driving. this is one of his threads where his gear died on him when driving

https://www.nairaland.com/2055196/urgent-2003-accord-transmission-just

light099:
Nope. It all depends.
There's is a speed limit high/low for each gear.
If you're on gear 4 @ about 100kmh but there's a need to apply some break temporarily down to 70kmh, you don't need to apply clutch + brake in such a scenario. Just apply only break. But if you're braking down to like 40kmh, then you can start thinking of clutching because that speed might be too low for gear 4 and so it would jerk.
You might not need to clutch for a brake speed @ 25kmh for gear 2.

In essence, you only need to clutch if you want to totally brake to stop or going below the speed limit low for the gear you're using at the moment.
Then, it also depends on the roughness and direction of slope or levelness of the road.
If the road is smooth and you're driving downhill, even with gear 5, you can break down very well without applying any clutch.

Exactly! Perfect response! I don't think anyone did justice to the topic like this. Simple and explicit

HEAVEN4444:
coming from the guy who started this topic on nairaland
URGENT! My 2003 Accord Transmission Just Stalled.
i think its safe to say that you have destroyed many gears and transmission with your weird way of driving

https://www.nairaland.com/2055196/urgent-2003-accord-transmission-just

An Automatic!!! Da!!!

Are you that myopic? Comprehension issues definitely.

I am still driving the same gear box, did you bother to read till the end what went wrong.

Besides, i didn't start this topic. The number of things you mistook is quite many. Signs of comprehension problems.

adanny01:
An Automatic!!! Da!!!

Are you that myopic? Comprehension issues definitely.

I am still driving the same gear box, did you bother to read till the end what went wrong.

yes i read it lol. you managed to damage a gear box and the car will only reverse but in D it dies

HEAVEN4444:
that guy has destroyed many transmissions and gear boxes with his way of driving. this is one of his threads where his gear died on him when driving

https://www.nairaland.com/2055196/urgent-2003-accord-transmission-just

You really have comprehension issues. That was an Automatic and i drive the same gear box 7years after that thread.

Aint you ashamed of yourself. I have never changed my transmission. Go find a hole and hide in shame.

adanny01:
You really have comprehension issues. That was an Automatic and i drive the same gear box 7years after that thread.

Aint you ashamed of yourself. I have never changed my transmission. Go find a hole and hide in shame.

lol alright bro no point in flogging this matter. we shall agree to disagree. you drive how you want to drive and i will drive how i want to drive. hope you are having a good evening my kind sir ?

HEAVEN4444:
that guy has destroyed many transmissions and gear boxes with his way of driving. this is one of his threads where his gear died on him when driving

https://www.nairaland.com/2055196/urgent-2003-accord-transmission-just

You are not a learned person at all.

Did you read the thread before shaming yourself. Did you read to where i posted this.

It wasnt a transmission problem, it was water in my brain box.

Shame on you.

.

This is it. I had water in the ECM!

2 days ago before i had the first 2 jerks, i wanted to wash the car and i noticed the foot well of the front passenger was very wet after i removed the floor mat. I allow the car dry well without replacing the carpet for some time but wondered how moisture got there since my last car wash was more than a week before.

My mechanic and i were totally lost and we called someone who specializes on gear box. Before he came, we were discussing how confusing everthing was so he suggested we try the ECM but i said thats the last resort and the scan said something different though the problems listed included ECM.

The gear specialist came and i was disappointed because he ordered some fuse tampered with which i didnt like but after getting confused himself while the car made some serious noise when he tried it, i feared the worst. He concluded that the ECM is misbehaving and water may be responsible. Viola, the ECM had water!

I started connecting the dots. I saw the ac condenser drain pipe and remembered i had a case of flooding from that pipe blockage in my office car that resulted in foul smell. Pulling it out, water gushed out. The source of flooding was found. ECM was dried and the car is perfect.

However, i am not sure the AC drain is working or still blocked since i have not seen water dropping from it so far. Tomorrow, i will make sure the drain is flowing. Other item that was tampered with is the solenoid that operates with brakes and unlocks gear lever from park.

One more, my engine RPM is lower than before and unstable especialy with A/C. It used to average at 800.

HEAVEN4444:
lol alright bro no point in flogging this matter. we shall agree to disagree. you drive how you want to drive and i will drive how i want to drive. hope you are having a good evening my kind sir ?

No you didn't read the thread. You are ashamed that you were quick to point a finger at me without doing your due diligence. Just like you posted a link to support your myth but you didn't even read or never understood what they link said.

You really need to be ashamed and really have comprehension issues. You will not post this after you read that my problem was actually not transmission related.

HEAVEN4444:
yes i read it lol. you managed to damage a gear box and the car will only reverse but in D it dies

Shame on you

light099:
Brake first before clutch.
That is the golden rule 101 for braking.
Don't! I mean never should you get used to clutch before brake, rather get used to it the other way round.
In case of emergency, if a driver has already programmed his/her instinct to apply clutch first, he/she would instantly step on the clutch instead of the brake, before you know, it might be too late but if your instinct is used to apply brake first, even if you're not composed enough to quickly apply the clutch, worst thing is the car would jerk and turn off, but you already averted evil.


Not really. It all depends.
There's is a speed-limit high and low for each gear.
If you're on gear 4 @ about 100kmh but there's a need to apply some brake temporarily down to 70kmh, you don't need to apply clutch + brake in such a scenario. Just apply only brake. But if you're braking down to like 40kmh, then you can start thinking of clutching because that speed might be too low for gear 4 and so it would jerk.
You might not need to clutch for a brake speed @ 25kmh for gear 2.

In essence, you only need to clutch if you want to totally brake to a stop or you're going below the speed-limit low for the gear you're using at the moment.
Then, it also depends on the roughness and direction of slope or levelness of the road.
If the road is smooth and you're driving downhill, even with gear 5, you can break down very well without applying any clutch.


Your instructor needs to relearn to drive a manual car.
Avoid the use of clutch as much as possible, except when it is necessary.
Don't clutch to slow down until you get close to the jerking point for the gear you're using.
Don't clutch while driving.
Don't clutch indefinitely on bad roads, rather find a suitable gear like gear 2 that could work without clutching on such a road.

so where did I go wrong coz am so scared of driving now. I had a terrible accident on my way to deliver wears to my customers just before Easter. An hausa bike rider just bumped unto my lane and we all landed into a ditch. Till date, I can't tell if it was the clutch or brake that I used but I know I panicked coz it was unexpected. Till date I still shudder at the thought of driving , the car too was badly damaged. Problems will just pack themselves like sardine. I believe when everything gets better , I will never drive myself again

adadike:
so where did I go wrong coz am so scared of driving now. I had a terrible accident on my way to deliver wears to my customers just before Easter. An hausa bike rider just bumped unto my lane and we all landed into a ditch. Till date, I can't tell if it was the clutch or brake that I used but I know I panicked coz it was unexpected. Till date I still shudder at the thought of driving , the car too was badly damaged. Problems will just pack themselves like sardine. I believe when everything gets better , I will never drive myself again

Sorry for your predicament. You will regain your confidence with time.

adanny01:
Sorry for your predicament. You will regain your confidence with time.

could this be possible? Till date, I still shudder at the thought of driving. Sometimes when am in a public transport and the driver is driving rough, it usually affects me

adadike:
could this be possible? Till date, I still shudder at the thought of driving. Sometimes when am in a public transport and the driver is driving rough, it usually affects me

PTSD



u need a shrink bro

HEAVEN4444:
The bolded makes no sense. when you have clutched the engine is already disengaged from the gear, so you can brake. after braking do you shift to 1. whats the sense in clutching then shifting to 1 before braking ? makes absolutely no sense

also that your high speed protocol is wrong too. you will destroy your gear. in all things CLUTCH FIRST.

Well, you are wrong. Brake first, clutch when engine speed drops (before stalling the engine), shift to the appropriate gear for vehicle speed and resume driving.

Engine braking does not destroy your transmission as you erroneously think. It is a safe way of bring a vehicle under control.

No wonder a lot of people are constantly changing clutch fibre, release bearings, forks, discs and plates.

Well, "I can drive" is still a thing.

9icetoo:
Well, you are wrong. Brake first, clutch when engine speed drops (before stalling the engine), shift to the appropriate gear for vehicle speed and resume driving.

Engine braking does not destroy your transmission as you erroneously think. It is a safe way of bring a vehicle under control.

No wonder a lot of people are constantly changing clutch fibre, release bearings, forks, discs and plates.

Well, "I can drive" is still a thing.

nigga yo ass is wrong. you niggas cant drive. dayum. now i see why many cars end up in mechanic shop in nigeria. you niggas dont know simple protocols

adanny01:
No you didn't read the thread. You are ashamed that you were quick to point a finger at me without doing your due diligence. Just like you posted a link to support your myth but you didn't even read or never understood what they link said.

You really need to be ashamed and really have comprehension issues. You will not post this after you read that my problem was actually not transmission related.



Shame on you

nigga yo ass cant drive

9icetoo:
Well, you are wrong. Brake first, clutch when engine speed drops (before stalling the engine), shift to the appropriate gear for vehicle speed and resume driving.

Engine braking does not destroy your transmission as you erroneously think. It is a safe way of bring a vehicle under control.

No wonder a lot of people are constantly changing clutch fibre, release bearings, forks, discs and plates.

Well, "I can drive" is still a thing.

and why is it that all you negros that come to challenge me have all destroyed your transmission and clutch at some point in time ? is that not proof that you cant drive ? lmao. look at this negros thread where he admitted to destroying the clutch with his bad driving lmaoooo

https://www.nairaland.com/3439495/consistent-failure-slave-clutch-cylinder

another car you destroyed
https://www.nairaland.com/4647529/difficulty-starting-skoda-octavia-tdi

9icetoo:
Well, you are wrong. Brake first, clutch when engine speed drops (before stalling the engine), shift to the appropriate gear for vehicle speed and resume driving.

Engine braking does not destroy your transmission as you erroneously think. It is a safe way of bring a vehicle under control.

No wonder a lot of people are constantly changing clutch fibre, release bearings, forks, discs and plates.

Well, "I can drive" is still a thing.

and yet another car you destroyed the gearbox
https://www.nairaland.com/5049417/2009-kia-cerrato-auto-gearbox

HEAVEN4444:
and why is it that all you negros that come to challenge me have all destroyed your transmission and clutch at some point in time ? is that not proof that you cant drive ? lmao. look at this negros thread where he admitted to destroying the clutch with his bad driving lmaoooo

https://www.nairaland.com/3439495/consistent-failure-slave-clutch-cylinder

another car you destroyed
https://www.nairaland.com/4647529/difficulty-starting-skoda-octavia-tdi

"White man", unfortunately, you have comprehension and reading problems.
1. Fake parts contributed to the slave cylinder failure.
2. The cerrato is an auto (no bearing on the discussion but your brain can't grasp that). Trans died cause transmission hose disconnected. Still nothing to do with the discussion.

Now go back to the beginning of this post, read slowly, comprehend the topic and message, and do yourself a favour.

There is no shame in accepting ones folly but it is insanely stupid to wallow in that folly.

My last response to you. Have a wonderful day.

9icetoo:
"White man", unfortunately, you have comprehension and reading problems.
1. Fake parts contributed to the slave cylinder failure.
2. The cerrato is an auto (no bearing on the discussion but your brain can't grasp that). Trans died cause transmission hose disconnected. Still nothing to do with the discussion.

Now go back to the beginning of this post, read slowly, comprehend the topic and message, and do yourself a favour.

There is no shame in accepting ones folly but is insanely stupid to wallow in that folly.

My last response to you. Have a wonderful day.

You guys need to stop replying that dude. I'm so sure he doesn't even own a car and if he owns one let him drive it as he like, na him Sabi.

9icetoo:
"White man", unfortunately, you have comprehension and reading problems.
1. Fake parts contributed to the slave cylinder failure.
2. The cerrato is an auto (no bearing on the discussion but your brain can't grasp that). Trans died cause transmission hose disconnected. Still nothing to do with the discussion.

Now go back to the beginning of this post, read slowly, comprehend the topic and message, and do yourself a favour.

There is no shame in accepting ones folly but it is insanely stupid to wallow in that folly.

My last response to you. Have a wonderful day.

alright explain this gearbox you destroyed
https://www.nairaland.com/5049417/2009-kia-cerrato-auto-gearbox

RuneKingThor:
You guys need to stop replying that dude. I'm so sure he doesn't even own a car and if he owns one let him drive it as he like, na him Sabi.

yeye dey smell

Conner44:
brake first, until car is almost at a stand still then you apply your clutch and downshift or neutral your gear.

while driving a manual car, it should never jerk and stall without the clutch unless your tyres are almost at a standstill. if yours jerks while in slow-down mode then check your clutch plate for damage.

always clutching down for whenever you apply your brakes wears down your clutch plate thereby making it require a replacement earlier than normal. alslo you should not be applying your clutch while your car is in motion as it damages your clutch too. you won't feel it is being damaged because you wont be hearing awkward sounds but believe you me the damage is being done.

oyibo dey call am 'riding the clutch' and is a behaviour exhibited by amateur manual geared car drivers.

ur first & second paragraphs are very informative , Thanks

adadike:
could this be possible? Till date, I still shudder at the thought of driving. Sometimes when am in a public transport and the driver is driving rough, it usually affects me

You certainly will especially out of necessity.

My mum had gone through driving school but even after it, she never drove on her own until her driver didn't show up one day and she was late for work. She drove that day and that was the end of the driver's job.

I saw a fatal accident on the road this morning, it took me sometime before I had to proceed on my journey. I was scared of driving fast but before you know it, i was doing fast and furious.

Time heals.

adanny01:
You certainly will especially out of necessity.

My mum had gone through driving school but even after it, she never drove on her own until her driver didn't show up one day and she was late for work. She drove that day and that was the end of the driver's job.

I saw a fatal accident on the road this morning, it took me sometime before I had to proceed on my journey. I was scared of driving fast but before you know it, i was doing fast and furious.

Time heals.

thanks my dear, I pray I heal too

adadike:
could this be possible? Till date, I still shudder at the thought of driving. Sometimes when am in a public transport and the driver is driving rough, it usually affects me

don't worry, you'll be just fine

OkuFaba:
Clutch down, brake then drop the gear

wrong

HEAVEN4444:
brother you are wrong. the clutch is the go to first. in all speed alterations you have to clutch first so as to disenagage the engine from the gear. this will save you from destroying your gear-transmission over time.

see when you clutch first, the car is just free rolling with no gear involvement and then you can brake easily without destroying your gear system. and then when you get to the desired speed, then you can change the gear and then re-engage the engine and gear by releasing the clutch. this is how you drive effectively without getting expensive gear repair jobs down the line

WRONG

HEAVEN4444:
nah you not reading between the lines brah. how many people can gauge what speed they have reduced to before finally downshifting apprapriately ? not many and so you are taxing the gear system. but to prevent you doing all that just disenage first by pressing clutch and then slow the car down to desired speed using brake and once you are at desired speed, then downshift approapriately and then re-engage by releasing clutch. it is the right thing to do. has always worked for me. and my gear-transmission system always functions brand new. but to each his own

very easy to measure, same as you measure braking distance, If you were in a proper driving test, You will fail if you engage the clutch B4 the brake when slowing down, this is one of the bad habits of driving we all do.If you are in a sudden brake test ie when an obstacle suddenly appears and you have to apply emergency braking , it's brake you tap not clutch!

erico2k2:
very easy to measure, same as you measure braking distance, If you were in a proper driving test, You will fail if you engage the clutch B4 the brake when slowing down, this is one of the bad habits of driving we all do.If you are in a sudden brake test ie when an obstacle suddenly appears and you have to apply emergency braking , it's brake you tap not clutch!

you wrong. emergency situation is brake and clutch at the same time so you dont stall the car.

https://www.cartoq.com/braking-tips-clutch-brake/

you people dont know how to drive

Sudden Braking: Clutch and brake together

Clutch and brake together are usually used in emergencies as it is the most effective way to brake without damaging the mechanical parts of the car. If someone or something comes in front of your car you would have to press the clutch and brake together, this will ensure that you do not accelerate by accident as your gearbox will be disengaged from the wheels. And you will be able to stop with the full braking power of your car.

erico2k2:
WRONG

says the man who said you hit only the brake in an emergency. bro you dont know how to drive. read this article to learn

https://www.cartoq.com/braking-tips-clutch-brake/

HEAVEN4444:
says the man who said you hit only the brake in an emergency. bro you dont know how to drive. read this article to learn

https://www.cartoq.com/braking-tips-clutch-brake/

this was a writting by another nob skull