Mcslize:


God forbid bad thing. I reject every life of mediocre in your life.

How much you dey earn? you even get job to start with?
we know una,na people wey never work for their life, people wey no get ₦20k savings dey always quick to talk.
That ₦150k job def no dey,how much do you think a graduate level entrant earns?

babajeje123:
See, I didn't want to talk initially but I felt some people here are misleading others. The best decision you can ever make in your life is to leave Nigeria. I left in February and I have not had a day of regret. I borrowed money to leave and sold properties and I tell you that I'm almost done repaying.
I don't know what you guys mean by good jobs in Nigeria with the kind of inflation of prices of commodities at the moment. Some talked about bills, but you didn't mention that you will have uninterrupted power and water supply, stable internet connection etc and all of these are pay as you go.
If God gives you the privilege of leaving Naija, please don't hesitate.

Baba only people that don't have better plans for their lives see Nigeria as a paradise.

Only the insecurity alone is something to worry about. They always focusing on the money aspect. Kidnappers don't want to use ear hear that somebody just flew down to Nigeria from abroad.

Some comment out of ignorance. They don't know how terrible Nigeria is. Those that don't have hope of leaving are mostly the ones that discourage others. But anyone who is wise will know that this country is not a safe place to be.

Emperormartin:
Why is it that northerners don't move abroad?

Because we are contended people, we move for studies, work , sports etc not the do or die by our southern brothers where they do anything just to go abroad.

I honestly appreciate everyone that taken their time to put in their contributions and experiences to this Topic. Godbless you all.


Do we have any Agricultural personnel in here whom has moved abroad as an agriculturist, animal scientists or other agriculturally related jobs pls share ur experience. Thank u

TeraHawks:
YOUR UNCLE HAS NOT TOLD YOU THE TRUTH.

YOU THINK ITS EASY TO JUST GET A JOB IN THE US?

IS IMMIGRATION LAWYER FREE OR EVEN CHEAP?

IS THE ASYLUM PROCESS THAT EASY THAT YOU JUST APPLY AND INSTANTA YOU GET TEMPORARY ASYLEE STATUS?

GETTING A CAR IN THE US IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE EASIEST THINGS TO DO COS 2ND HAND CARS ARE CHEAP, ESPECIALLY THE OLDER ONES, SO THATS NOT REALLY AN ACHIEVEMENT. THE LAND HE BOUGHT IN NAIJA, WHAT IS THE QUALITY OF THE LAND? I CAN BET IS ONE OF THOSE LAND DEEP INSIDE BUSH.

AMBULANCE IS NOT LIKE WE SEE IN THE MOVIES OH. IT TAKES TIME TO ARRIVE, THATS THE FIRST SHOCKER. THEN YOU PAY FOR THE TRIP TO HOSPITAL. IM SURE HE DOESNT HAVE INSURANCE SO HE IS LUCKY THEY TOOK HIM IN AS AN EMERGENCY CASE OTHERWISE HE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TREATED. ALSO, KIDNEY STONE IS NOT INSTANTLY FATAL; HOSPITALS IN NAIJA HANDLE SUCH ROUTINELY.

ABROAD IS NOT HEAVEN...LOOK VERY WELL BEFORE JUMPING BECAUSE ANOTHER PERSON JAPA IS NOT YOUR OWN JAPA.

IF YOU ARE WILLING TO WORK AS HARD IN NAIJA, YOU WILL MAKE IT HERE AS WELL.

THE MAJOR CONSOLATION FOR DOING HARD MENIAL JOBS ABROAD IS THAT THERE IS SOME DIGNITY OF LABOUR THERE, PLUS WHEN YOU CONVERT THE MONEY TO NAIRA, YOU FEEL A SENSE OF CONSOLATION.

MOST TIMES, AWON ABROAD PEOPLE DO NOT TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH ABOUT THEIR SITUATION AND I THINK IT IS REALLY BAD OF THEM.

ABROAD IS FOR YOU IF

1. YOU HAVE NOTHING IN NAIJA
2. YOU ARE SINGLE
3. YOU ARE BELOW 30YRS

SELAH

I get your time today so I go answer you well well

You say my uncle hasn't Told me the truth so you mean you Sabi my uncle wey I grow up for the same house with me pass okay ooo!

You're telling me I think it's easy to get a job in the US I won't answer this but if you knew the kind of jobs he did here and what it took him to get the job Omo I would confidently say it's easier to get a job over there than here!

You're asking me is Immigration lawyer free or cheap well I would leave you to find out by yourself but one thing I would say is weda it's cheap or expensive if you can afford it then you can get it( irrespective of weda your people back home foot the bills )

You asked if the Asylum process is easy that you apply and get instant temp status . My answer to you is this Baba you don't expect me to start Narrating how the whole thing happened and how it went from him waking up to take his bath , eating and taking a bus etc. I just summarised everything. Of course you sound learned and smart and might e older than I am so you should know it's unwise to drop or narrate sensitive things and drop details on a public forum!

AMBULANCE IS NOT LIKE WE SEE IN THE MOVIES OH. IT TAKES TIME TO ARRIVE, THATS THE FIRST SHOCKER. THEN YOU PAY FOR THE TRIP TO HOSPITAL. IM SURE HE DOESNT HAVE INSURANCE SO HE IS LUCKY THEY TOOK HIM IN AS AN EMERGENCY CASE OTHERWISE HE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TREATED. ALSO, KIDNEY STONE IS NOT INSTANTLY FATAL; HOSPITALS IN NAIJA HANDLE SUCH ROUTINELY.

ANS : WHEN one is Under Asylum and his case is still being processed , they are under some sort of Government care. As for kidney stone you say it's not Instantly fatal well for someone in Nigeria doing a security job of less than 35k or lesser being given such quick fast and responsive treatment is something he should have not gotten that easy in Nigeria. The cheapest he would have gotten would be in a Govt General hospital and of which he would be given a waiting time that would take months to be attended to if he was to go to a private hospital would he be able to afford it?? Think!

IF YOU ARE WILLING TO WORK AS HARD IN NAIJA, YOU WILL MAKE IT HERE AS WELL.

ANS: for someone who has always wanted to go to the USA from childhood, telling him anything oda than the US no go enter in ear. He's a workaholic at some point in Nigeria he was doing security job in 2 places( Morning Duty here and Night duty in another place ) I think he did it for some months and it nearly cost him his life! He had to focus on one! So such person carrying that same energy Would not suffer abroad!

THE MAJOR CONSOLATION FOR DOING HARD MENIAL JOBS ABROAD IS THAT THERE IS SOME DIGNITY OF LABOUR THERE, PLUS WHEN YOU CONVERT THE MONEY TO NAIRA, YOU FEEL A SENSE OF CONSOLATION.

ANS: yes you're correct cos whatever he is today and the kind of life he's living it's something he would never achieve in Nigeria at least when he was here.

IN CONCLUSION weda it's a cheap car his riding or not the end point is WHATEVER HE HAS NOW IS SOMETHING HE WOULD NEVER HAVE HAD IF HE DIDNT LEAVE 9JA!!

jesmond3945:
well I wish you well but you cannot compare yourself with nnpc staff. He saves all his salary for himself, he is his own government while that is not obtainable overseas.

It just takes one thing to bring that NNPC staff down which is for him to be a KIDNAP VICTIM

TheEnforcer:
You people should stop talking about that Dubai.Who relocates there? Even with the sweltering heat? That place na just for visit o my guy

Exactly. I almost got lured by a greedy travel agent into relocating there. Thank goodness for nairaland travel section. It saved me from pouring my money down the drain.

Raalsalghul:



Ordinary 200k or paltry 200k.

What can 200k get you in this Buhari's economy?

Honestly, I don't think you are a serious person.

Daaaaam where have you been!! You just left that your remote jobs thread Kai!! E no good ooo!!

jy2kbeyond:
Any single lady abroad need husby? Abeg DM on a low key o.

Don't wait on that...it's very rear

Hustle enter EU ,UK or US...

Millions of young single ladies with passport are available to settle with you

Goodluck

NorthRules9ja:

Liar i travel every year to overseas…stop your hate against us

such a controversial moniker. You must be a bigot!

CuteMaro:
Well to survive overseas you need to be equipped with a lot of information & be ready to work very hard. You have to be specific & realistic , what’s ur purpose of going ? What & how exactly am I going to achieve it. Do your research and don’t rely on general speculations. I know of someone who sold everything and moved to Cyprus, after 2 months dude came back and had to start over again.

Naija may be hard, but it’s one of the freest places to actually live. In Most developed countries you pay for everything to almost the air you breathe. As a Nigerian who is not used to that you may find it very difficult to adjust coz u probably won’t be prepared for it. People succeed though, but with extra hard work, defined planning and a good support system I think.

As for the person talking about Northerners not traveling abroad. That is not true. They do, but they’re not as vocal as our Southern folks, especially in the media space.

Oga, at bolded, you’re giving the impression you don’t pay for air. Truth is, you do pay for air. Majority of Western nations have some form of congestion charge tax to prevent air pollution. This is a form of air tax.

Ikwerelastborn:

Then how come people in abroad have more money than their contemporaries back home in Nigeria?

Misconceptions. Many people abroad are poorer that their Nigeria counterparts...they usually save up to show up when they visit Nigeria.

I remember when my wife travelled to the US to have our baby on student VISA while I work as a banker with ACCESSBANK receiving 270k. Lo and behold within few months she was able to save a lot of money as a security officer with 5month pregnancy o and sent 2 cars Toyota Corolla home. In btw I lost my job with the bank few years back and have been unable to get another till date but thank GOD for my daughter tax and stimulus that has been my saving grace to pay house rent and meet up with further expenses at the moment. I’m currently using that car for UBER at the moment and I can’t wait to JAPA cause all my friends are doing pretty better than me at the moment over there sending cars to there parents and have been able to get a good job after there MSC. My take is if at all you wanna travel go with either student visa or immigrant visa , work pretty hard to make a lot of money , jobs are everywhere don’t just be lazy , you can always divert to medical line , social workers or IT and the sky is the limit. GOD should pick my call this year abeg. If my pregnant wife can achieve all this with belle then I’m pretty sure I can achieve triple of this if am not lazy..

motymop:
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So he decided to solve his problem by moving back, after the scrap they could save in Canada, my guy and his family moved back to Nigeria, they had to start afresh, thank God, he had a supportive family and friends, they use their connections to help him find another good job but what is lost is lost till today he still regrets selling his properties for Canada.

Sorry poster but I think this person is not telling you the complete truth about his status in Canada. Canada is full of opportunities what most people strive to do is to just get in ,the wife's and kids could have even chased the assylum option like many Nigerians do and they will be well catered for by the government even though its not the ideal thing.

The first few months is often the toughest for immigrants especially those without papers but with time people will become stable even with menial jobs because there are benefits and safety nets for everyone.

WhyNa:
Perhaps I joined this thread late but better late than never.

First, here's a brief history of my life in Naija before I moved.

The highest salary I had ever earned was 60k. That's less than 150 USD for more than 200 hours job. Even that 60k sef, I chop am only 3 times before I comot.

In 2014, when I decided to leave, I was looking at the big countries but because I couldn't afford it, I spent another 4-5 years trying various scholarships.

2019, I got tired and decided to lower my "standards". Go for a small country and work my way up. Little did I know it was a blessing in disguise.

After much research, in February 2020, I left for Vietnam to teach English. I knew from research, the least amount I could get paid was 800USD per month per 100 hours. I laughed as I had seen worse in Naija. I even got a job for 900 USD before I left but I rejected it when I got here. (There's a detailed thread of my journey to Vietnam on Nairaland)

Long story short, I got here, Vietnam surpassed my expectations and I've been climbing higher and higher since then. Go check out my thread for more info.

Now due to Covid and all, after being here for a year and 6 months and working fully for only about 8/9 months, I started thinking of moving to Canada which was my plan initially. Start small, save up, move.

Back to the drawing board....I knew moving, I had to have a very good degree that is highly sort after or a skill to survive the bills and all. The only other option was to go back to school.

I started checking out schools and fees and even though I now had enough to pay for my studies, I had to think of what NEXT after studies, the income to savings ratio and also ask myself what the other advantages are THEN compare with what I have now.

Well, I have decided to stay back here in Vietnam until for any unforeseen reasons, I decide it's time to move cos I'm wayyy more than comfortable here. Cos of living is mega cheap the highest thing I spend on is rent and my current fully furnished to the teeth one bedroom apartment is not up to 250 USD


Now before you comment about Vietnam being a poor country and all that, don't let your ignorance get the best of you. Google. Then ask yourself why even though Naija is bad, there are foreigners who are living comfortably there buying every single thing in supermarkets et all. They earn wayyyy higher than the local. It's the same story here.

So NO, I don't regret moving. It's been one year and some and I don't even miss or dream of going back to visit.

Modified: Oh and let me add...the first three months wasn't rosy.

Two weeks after I came in, total lockdown started. We were indoors for 3 months. Survived on my BTA, landlady reduced rent for me, then back up from home.

It wasn't funny. Immediately after the lockdown, things changed

Hey there! I checked out your relocation thread..currently on page 7. Like you, I'm also being a realist and looking at other countries that won't cost tens of millions to move, but still offer better standard of living than naija. Having stayed for over a year, could you pleaaase just share your first-hand perspective on the best option for a young family such as mine emigrating to Hanoi..Here or via email. Just mention this post if you'd help with that info, and I'll quote you on a dead thread to share contact details/email. Will keep reading your thread though. Thanks a ton

titusincanada:
i know so many Regional Bank Managers, CBN staff(that was appointed with her Masters), Bank Managers receiving almost 700k a month still moving to Canada. I can count almost 10 of them. Why do you think they are moving abroad and never for once thought of coming back even after first taking up a Survival Job to kickstart their life in the New Country.

When you travel, most time you sell all you have to go, the shame of coming back make many remain in the rat hole

Solatium:



How much you dey earn? you even get job to start with?
we know una,na people wey never work for their life, people wey no get ₦20k savings dey always quick to talk.
That ₦150k job def no dey,how much do you think a graduate level entrant earns?

That's why I rejected it for you. Do I need to tell u how much I earn? What's 150k that will come with security. Are u even aware of what's going on in this country? So, to you 150k is money. And after earning that 150k running helter and skelter answering Yes sir yes sir, you will get home and still end up running your Yamaha gen all through the night for what your so-called government supposed to be taking care of for you.

I rebuke every spirit of mediocrity in your life brother.

lordally:


Please don't leave without meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! Bikonu!!!

Lol...
You can start from here Wes.Org.you may be lucky.

Don't do it because of yourself but your children

U wan disguise abi...

gbengaadeleye12:
I will rather remain in my country instead of being a slave in another country

Are they as marginalized as Southerners? Do Southerners have the same opportunities as Northerners? The reason northerners can easily come back to Nigeria after studies is that they will find it way easier to get good jobs and other opportunities.

WoeBetide666:


Then later other Nigerians will complain of Northern domination

Emperormartin:
Why is it that northerners don't move abroad?

They said they are the real indigenes of Nigeria. The land space called Nigeria favours them more than others.

Ikwerelastborn:

What of those blacks killed like animals and fowls in the USA? Or the mass shootings there,I'm sure you haven't left Nigeria before because if you had,you will be more informed than this ignorance u showed

At least the people killed have names and the number

How many nigerians have been killed by the army,sars, lastma, custom, herdsmen?,iswap,bokoharam

The jobs is tasking and she complained a lot also about stress and all but take a look at me. I wake as early as possible to join our staff bus by 5:30am everyday and get back home by 11PM. I know where am coming from and am ready to work my ass off to pay those bills and enjoy my life. Aside the money I’m buying a future for my kids , that’s the best I could do for them at the moment. Even my Uncle that work with USAID who was against traveling has moved to the US with his wife and 3kids....Guys if you have the opportunity JAPA Asap

BigDawsNet:


Bro I'm studying currently..you don't expect me to get a full time job as developer in an Tech company with a beautiful office with also $80-$100k yearly

Our four generation were brought here to slave and I'm glad they did....

Is your country working?
The answer is NO!

Abeg let me enjoy my advance slavery ...
As soon as I'm through with my masters...

I can apply for a better standard job that suit my career....

Just that you know...my menial job+freelancer income in a month is greater than an average nnpc staff income monthly (salary) excluding if the nigga is receiving runz....

Are you spending it in naira? You are there and drawing comparison with someone in Nigeria. Compare with your peers there.

Why does the op believe it's only menial jobs that is available abroad. As for me I left Nigeria for canada, wasn't easy as I came during covid. Got a job 6 months later in the same company I used to work in Nigeria. My savings after bills and feeding every month is time two of my total salary in Nigeria. I have piece of mind, no mosquitoes, good health care, no generator noise etc. Nigeria na hell fire biko

afroxyz:


Are you spending it in naira? You are there and drawing comparison with someone in Nigeria. Compare with your peers there.

I'm not obviously...I'm just trying to explain some stuff...

Even tho spending my income here doesn't cost a fortune...

Food is cheap
Clothes
Groceries are incredibly cheap
Getting a car isn't even difficult...

adejoro1988:
What of Estonia in southern Europe, if someone is going through education.

Why don't you focus on
Germany
Swiss
France
Holland
Norway
Netherlands

The rest are 3 world countries... forget abt the beauty

Emperormartin:
Why is it that northerners don't move abroad?

It could be that they do but to middle east countries and North Africa. In addition, travelling abroad does not automatically mean escaping any number of intolerable situations just as conversely not travelling does not indicate satisfaction with current circumstances. Not to mention the fact that poverty is relative and not limited to material gains.

lordally:


It just takes one thing to bring that NNPC staff down which is for him to be a KIDNAP VICTIM

how many nnpc staff you know have been kidnapped?

PLS THIS THREAD IS FOR THOSE WITH TRUE EXPERIENCES ALL I’VE BEEN SEEING IS I KNOW OF… I KNOW OF NL TO BE A VAST COMMUNITY…ABEG CLEAR ROAD MAKE THEM TALK. Uhhuh �

A lot of my guys including me married Black European but we have to leave Nigeria for that dream to be real unless you are lucky to meet them in Nigeria

BigDawsNet:



Don't wait on that...it's very rear

Hustle enter EU ,UK or US...

Millions of young single ladies with passport are available to settle with you

Goodluck

Bbbwings:

At least the people killed have names and the number

How many nigerians have been killed by the army,sars, lastma, custom, herdsmen?,iswap,bokoharam

All die na die bro, no difference