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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 9:41am On Jul 08, 2021
n3xt:


There are several of them in Lagos. I’ve shared many of them here.

Areas like?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:43am On Jul 08, 2021
somehow:


The areas you're talking about didn't start existing 10yrs ago, they have been existing for as old as Lagos itself, so I am still trying to understand the 'rush",' patience', and "wait" comment.

Up till now, alot of places on the mainland still get flooded during rainy season, this is a known fact, maybe they were also in a rush to build.

I am at a loss here but I move.

Exactly my point above!

The approach is what we call “fix-along-as-you-build” approach.

So you don’t expect such approach to fix anything. There’ll always be flooding, building collapse and failures because we failed to do things the right way.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 9:49am On Jul 08, 2021
Goodmorning people, i need answers to this .How long after roofing wood work should roofing sheet( stone coated ) can be installed. I hv heard 28days after . Pls share ur opinion. Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:51am On Jul 08, 2021
somehow:


Areas like?

Lekki Scheme II with 3,095 residential plots, 64 commercial plots, 47 mixed development plots, 26 institutional plots and 17 recreational plots; Abijo GRA and the likes.

It has everything in place grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 9:56am On Jul 08, 2021
n3xt:


Lekki Scheme II with 3,095 residential plots, 64 commercial plots, 47 mixed development plots, 26 institutional plots and 17 recreational plots; Abijo GRA and the likes.

It has everything in place grin

So you are saying government built infrastructure before people started building there?

The same Lekki scheme 2 and Abijo?

Knowing the number of plots and their destination is not the definition of building infrastructure.

Some areas in these places you just mentioned still suffer flood and traffic issues. One of my wife's bosses have a house around there.

Had to move closer to escape the stress he was facing.

Like I said, there is no area in Lagos in the past 20 years that Govt developed the infrastructures before people moved there.

Not even a government known to be reactive than proactive.

I rest my case.

As for the blaming of home owners for building collapse, I will leave that to others to take you on.

It's like blaming a patient outrightly for dying in the hands of a doctor who's supposed to be a professional after following all the advises of the doctor on an illness that's not supposed to lead to death.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 9:58am On Jul 08, 2021
n3xt:


Exactly my point above!

The approach is what we call “fix-along-as-you-build” approach.

So you don’t expect such approach to fix anything. There’ll always be flooding, building collapse and failures because we failed to do things the right way.

So people should pulse their lives and dreams hoping on a Govt (at all levels) that only act when there are issues?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:03am On Jul 08, 2021
somehow:


So you are saying government built infrastructure before people started building there?

The same Lekki scheme 2 and Abijo?

Knowing the number of plots and their destination is not the definition of building infrastructure.

Some areas in these places you just mentioned still suffer flood and traffic issues. One of my wife's bosses have a house around there.

Had to move closer to escape the stress he was facing.

Like I said, there is no area in Lagos in the past 20 years that Govt developed the infrastructures before people moved there.

Not even a government known to be reactive than proactive.

I rest my case.



1996 - date should be about 25 years ago.

Lekki Scheme II was conceived 25 years ago and there has been infrastructure development there since over one and half decade. I mean solid road and drainage to individual plots.

I did several projects there (several years ago) that I've showcased here. It's not a fix-along-as-you-build type of development.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:12am On Jul 08, 2021
somehow:


As for the blaming of homeowners for building collapse, I will leave that to others to take you on.

It's like blaming a patient outrightly for dying in the hands of a doctor who's supposed to be a professional.

For those who want to take on me, I'd recommend you go through this thread Building Collapse, Construction Failures - Who's To Blame? https://www.nairaland.com/3149390/building-collapse-construction-failures-whos#46319667
I released that hit album in 2016 grin grin


I will take full responsibility if my house collapse because I am the one who picked all the pieces including the supposed 'professional.'
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 10:14am On Jul 08, 2021
n3xt:



1996 - date should be about 25 years ago.

Lekki Scheme II was conceived 25 years ago and there has been infrastructure development there since over one and half decade. I mean solid road and drainage to individual plots.

I did several projects there (several years ago) that I've showcased here. It's not a fix-along-as-you-build type of development.

People have been moving and living there before govt moved one tractor there.

They still have flood issues.

I am telling you 1st hand information from one of the residents, not story story.

The man is even building an estates inside Abijo as we speak but moved away from that area.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:14am On Jul 08, 2021
somehow:


So people should pulse their lives and dreams hoping on a Govt (at all levels) that only act when there are issues?

That the government is wrong or slow to act doesn't make doing wrong right.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:20am On Jul 08, 2021
somehow:


People have been moving and living there before govt moved one tractor there.

They still have flood issues.

I am telling you 1st hand information from one of the residents, not story story.

The man is even building an estates inside Abijo as we speak but moved away from that area.

grin grin

Failure is inevitable sir if we continue to do thing the wrong way. The roads will still get flooded when we chose to block the drain instead of building proper slab over the drains built by government.

Obviously, you dont follow most of my builds here. We discussed most of these challenges many years ago.

I was even found culpable in one of my threads. I blocked the drain with sand.

Guess why?

We were in a rush to get materials on site that we cant wait to build proper slab over drainage provided by the government. So we (myself and the client) agreed to block the drain.

Shebi na temporary thing ni? Thats how flooding start.


We are always in a rush that we no longer care about consequences of our actions.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 10:21am On Jul 08, 2021
n3xt:


That the government is wrong or slow to act doesn't make doing wrong right.

Should people not move to Ikorodu because government is yet to build major infrastructures?

Should people not live in Ibeju because government is yet to complete major infrastructures?

People are also indigenes of these areas, maybe they should have waited for government before settling there.

One thing though, Nigerian government (state, LG etc) won't spend a dime on infrastructure on an area if the area is not inhabited and are facing huge infrastructural challenges unless they plan to turn it to an elicit habitat for their cronies.

Kindly reply my chats outside here.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 10:26am On Jul 08, 2021
n3xt:


grin grin

Failure is inevitable sir if we continue to do thing the wrong way. The roads will still get flooded when we chose to block the drain instead of building proper slab over the drains built by government.

Obviously, you dont follow most of my builds here. We discussed most of these challenges many years ago.

I was even found culpable in one of my threads. I blocked the drain with sand.

Guess why?

We were in a rush to get materials on site that we cant wait to build proper slab over drainage provided by the government. So we (myself and the client) agreed to block the drain.

Shebi na temporary thing ni? Thats how flooding start.


We are always in a rush that we no longer care about consequences of our actions.

People build when they have the power, to wait for Govt before building is setting yourself up for homelessness except you're not interested in living under your own roof.

Within 5 months, building materials went almost 40% up.

What you should be clamoring for in my own word is for every individual building to check and study the town planning of the areas they chose to build in. Follow the dos and don't and ensure they don't flaunt their regulations. And also contract a responsible contractor /engineer that won't cut corners and then shift blames.

Not to tell people to wait till eternity for a reactive Govt before they decide to put a roof over their heads.

You will apply for approval, months later, you still wouldn't get approved. Just approval o.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 10:32am On Jul 08, 2021
n3xt:


For those who want to take on me, I'd recommend you go through this thread Building Collapse, Construction Failures - Who's To Blame? https://www.nairaland.com/3149390/building-collapse-construction-failures-whos#46319667
I released that hit album in 2016 grin grin


I will take full responsibility if my house collapse because I am the one who picked all the pieces including the supposed 'professional.'


So a professional that is trained on building construction should be let go but a homeowner who entrusted his money and efforts on him/her due to the fact that the professional proved that he's a professional should be blamed?

The homeowner who isn't the professional but followed all the advises, supplied the funds,
didn't underfund, did not cut corners etc gets the blame?

hmmm interesting way of thinking.

Why then do you blame government or any politician as you often do on the state of affairs of the country?

Why even blame Buhari for anything?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:39am On Jul 08, 2021
somehow:


You will apply for approval, months later, you still wouldn't get approved. Just approval o.


I got this from someone here yesterday. I think experience shaped him.

That’s why he decided to take it slow!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 10:43am On Jul 08, 2021
mobileboy:
Good evening elders in the house, please help your son scrutinize and review this plan for my upcoming building, land size is 60ft by 40ft

This is for the ground floor
A little terrace/balcony at the back of the kitchen will complete it even a 3 ft wide will do.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 10:44am On Jul 08, 2021
n3xt:


I got this from someone here yesterday. I think experience shaped him.

That’s why he decided to take it slow!
It all depends on the circumstances surrounding why approval is delayed or not given.

Then the area in question.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:47am On Jul 08, 2021
somehow:

It all depends on the circumstances surrounding why approval is delayed or not given.

Then the area in question.

Ok.

These happened to some folks here..... they'd be able to give better counsel.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 10:52am On Jul 08, 2021
mobileboy:
this is first floor

This one on the right does not work and a security issue. The position of the master bedroom ( no adequate ventilation and safety) and the kitchen mba mba mba will not work in the 9ja environment safety issue

Why is the one with a master bed a different set one might be able to design something that is a better fit.

I have had a second look and it appears to be a 3 bed and a 1 bed please clarify as different issues come to play.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 10:52am On Jul 08, 2021
n3xt:



1996 - date should be about 25 years ago.

Lekki Scheme II was conceived 25 years ago and there has been infrastructure development there since over one and half decade. I mean solid road and drainage to individual plots.

I did several projects there (several years ago) that I've showcased here. It's not a fix-along-as-you-build type of development.
You’re right on this one there are many other estates like that, couple of them around Lagos. They have put infrastructure on the estate for the last 20 years trust me probably you’ll see 30 houses it was planned for over 3000 houses, because they knew government lands are secure. 90% of people buying those state lands we’re not ready to build anything, but buy for chicken change then. They have in mind to selling for millions a few years later, that’s why most of the place are not developed. Until government starts revoking all those lands for immediate development otherwise many of those areas will never developed. I remember Fashola did that @ Lekki face2 then.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 11:02am On Jul 08, 2021
Enyinne:
Goodmorning people, i need answers to this .How long after roofing wood work should roofing sheet( stone coated ) can be installed. I hv heard 28days after . Pls share ur opinion. Thanks
2to3month
Not bad

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 11:06am On Jul 08, 2021
n3xt:


Ok.

These happened to some folks here..... they'd be able to give better counsel.



They should let us know the stage at which this happened and the activities that went on before then if they see it fit for knowledge purposes.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:09am On Jul 08, 2021
kopell:
You’re right on this one there are many other estates like that, couple of them around Lagos. They have put infrastructure on the estate for the last 20 years trust me probably you’ll see 30 houses it was planned for over 3000 houses, because they knew government lands are secure. 90% of people buying those state lands we’re not ready to build anything, but buy for chicken change then. They have in mind to selling for millions a few years later, that’s why most of the place are not developed. Until government starts revoking all those lands for immediate development otherwise many of those areas will never developed. I remember Fashola did that @ Lekki face2 then.

I agree development is kinda slow but 3,000 extremely large plots is a lot. You'd agree with me that's how development in a sane world should be.

A lot of those hoarding the lands rushed to site when govt wanted to revoke their title around 2015..

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 11:10am On Jul 08, 2021
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bukolo: 11:14am On Jul 08, 2021
thank you.
RockOfAgesAlumi:

Turkey product
Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:17am On Jul 08, 2021
somehow:


They should let us know the stage at which this happened and the activities that went on before then if they see it fit for knowledge purposes.


Baba, remember I said don't take me too serious.

This is the way I'd just be sharing my stuff. You're not compelled to take me serious.

Some of us are shaped by the experience we gather from other people's mistake and then there are others who chose to be the other people we learn from. The owners of those demolished structures I shared above are here with us and I pray we never had to go through a situation where all we worked for will go down right in from of us and we will now be asked to come and explain how it happened for knowledge purpose.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by RockOfAgesAlumi(m): 11:20am On Jul 08, 2021
bukolo:
thank you.
If you don't mind we are an expert on the hand railings
Thanks sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 11:20am On Jul 08, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


Me old ke, when we have Hajj and Mummy Gabby for house grin

I’m a spring chicken.
Hmmmmm no accept the fact of life until matter that touch come remind you grin

You don jejely build for your reality and instead of attaching a platform area in the front I hear say you don decide to keep up with the Jonesses its now duplex just remember to include stair lift my brother grin.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 11:20am On Jul 08, 2021
n3xt:


Baba, remember I said don't take me too serious.

This is the way I'd just be sharing my stuff. You're not compelled to take me serious.

Some of us are shaped by the experience we gather from other people's mistake and then there are others who chose to be the other people we learn from. The owners of those demolished structures I shared above are here with us and I pray we never had to go through a situation where all we worked for will go down right in from of us and we will now be asked to come and explain how it happened for knowledge purpose.

Do you have the details of why they got demolished so that others can compare and see if they are heading that path or safe?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bukolo: 11:27am On Jul 08, 2021
How much is turkey rails for simple design?
RockOfAgesAlumi:

If you don't mind we are an expert on the hand railings
Thanks sir

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 11:27am On Jul 08, 2021
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