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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 11:53am On Jul 11, 2021
DeadPresidents:
Persuasive marketing tactic.

The real aim is to restrict you to a binary choice of either the monthly or the yearly whilst making you think you're in control of your decisions.

Them win sha...earlier this year when work was few and far between I got the yearly sub. Just like the PL on TV, it's cheaper to get MUTV as a Nigerian than as a Brit.
I agree it’s a good marketing ploy. Cos I don’t even think the monthly sub is worth it. Just add 3k and you’ll get x12 of the service.

How is PL on TV cheaper in Nigeria than in Brit? Is it because of the exchange rate or standard of living?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:53am On Jul 11, 2021
Sniper4real:
It's like the friendly match na coded match. Coz it's only on Man Utd app e dey
MUTV as well. Won’t bother downloading the app yet.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 11:54am On Jul 11, 2021
Expert17:
Argentina? I'm discussing world football with you.

Same way Henry is rated above CR7 in EPL, but you know CR7 levels in world football.... Same applies to Messi and Maradona.
How can he be the World G.O.A.T, when he isn't even Argentina's G.O.A.T yet?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 11:55am On Jul 11, 2021
TrebleChamp:
True talk, reason why i rate Maradonna the G.O.A.T. Didn't watch Pele play, but Maradonna did magical tinz on the pitch only a Messi could and have done. Na World Cup trophy remain for Messi to take the crown as the undisputed G.O.A.T. Coming from a CR7 fan....
I actually rate Pele more cheesy cheesy I consider him the G.O.A.T. 3 world cup trophies no be moi-moi.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 11:55am On Jul 11, 2021
Panther7:
The things we read on this thread mehh
I can mention 100+ players with World cup medal grin

Mention 2 players with 7, sorry 6 Ballon d'Or
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 11:58am On Jul 11, 2021
Expert17:
I can mention 100+ players with World cup medal grin

Mention 2 players with 7, sorry 6 Ballon d'Or
I bet the 100 players aren't even in the debate for the G.O.A.T
Players we consider the G.O.A.T have won the world cup but the rules are different when it comes to Messi and Ronaldo. I really don't get.
People say you are the Greatest of all time but you haven't won the Greatest of all price is something I will never get.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 12:05pm On Jul 11, 2021
TheLequte:
Agreed. Quite cheap. There’s no way you’d sub for 6 months when you could get another 6 month’s service with an additional 1k.
Trust me, some people might not have that 1K available at that moment.
Do they show live united games?

Abi na only youth-nited live games?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 12:08pm On Jul 11, 2021
Panther7:
I actually rate Pele more cheesy cheesy I consider him the G.O.A.T. 3 world cup trophies no be moi-moi.
Good point at bolded, but me dey look their individual performance sha. I watch Mexico 86 and Italian 90, Maradonna was magical all through the tournament. Also what he did at a small club Napoli did it for me. I don't think this debate of who was better between both will ever end...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 12:17pm On Jul 11, 2021
TrebleChamp:
Good point at bolded, but me dey look their individual performance sha. I watch Mexico 86 and Italian 90, Maradonna was magical all through the tournament. Also what he did at a small club Napoli did it for me. I don't think this debate of who was better between both will ever end...
Maradonna was freakishly good. I think people shouting Messi and Ronaldo are probably the younger generation. I agree the debate will never end but Messi or Ronaldo winning world cup makes it more difficult to discredit them cos they have won everything.

Pele
Maradonna
Zidane
Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Xavi
Garranchia
All have won the world cup and are considered the one of the best.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:18pm On Jul 11, 2021
TrebleChamp:
How can he be the World G.O.A.T, when he isn't even Argentina's G.O.A.T yet?
Doesn't matter.

Argentina population : 45 million

World population : 8 billion
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 12:29pm On Jul 11, 2021
KingAlabi:
Trust me, some people might not have that 1K available at that moment.
Do they show live united games?

Abi na only youth-nited live games?
I don’t think they show all live PL games.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 12:31pm On Jul 11, 2021
Panther7:
I bet the 100 players aren't even in the debate for the G.O.A.T
Players we consider the G.O.A.T have won the world cup but the rules are different when it comes to Messi and Ronaldo. I really don't get.
People say you are the Greatest of all time but you haven't won the Greatest of all price is something I will never get.
So basically, you can have the combined talent of Messi, Ronaldo, Maradona and Pele. And score more than 1k goals. But if you're from Panama or a Finland, you can't be considered as the GOAT?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ouzo1(m): 12:33pm On Jul 11, 2021
Pele Records fear me die sha..

Most hat-tricks in world football: 92
Most career goals in world football (including friendlies): 1,283 (in 1,363 games)
Most FIFA World Cup winners' medals: 3
Youngest winner of a FIFA World Cup: aged 17 years and 249 days
Youngest goalscorer in a FIFA World Cup: aged 17 years and 239 days
Youngest player to score a hat-trick in a FIFA World Cup: aged 17 years and 244 days
Youngest player to play in a FIFA World Cup Final: aged 17 years and 249 days
Youngest goalscorer in a FIFA World Cup Final: aged 17 years and 249 days
Most assists provided in FIFA World Cup history: 10
Most assists provided in a single FIFA World Cup tournament: 6
Most assists provided in FIFA World Cup Final match: 3
Most goals in FIFA World Cup Final match: 3
Most goals in a calendar year: 127
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:33pm On Jul 11, 2021
Panther7:
Maradonna was freakishly good. I think people shouting Messi and Ronaldo are probably the younger generation. I agree the debate will never end but Messi or Ronaldo winning world cup makes it more difficult to discredit them cos they have won everything.

Pele
Maradonna
Zidane
Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Xavi
Garranchia
All have won the world cup and are considered the one of the best.
Xavi, Zidane grin grin but not Messi and CR7.

So you would pick a player with world cup medal over 6 Ballon d'or grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:34pm On Jul 11, 2021
ChristoBam:
So basically, you can have the combined talent of Messi, Ronaldo, Maradona and Pele. And score more than 1k goals. But if you're from Panama or a Finland, you can't be considered as the GOAT?
No World cup No GOAT

grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 12:40pm On Jul 11, 2021
ChristoBam:
So basically, you can have the combined talent of Messi, Ronaldo, Maradona and Pele. And score more than 1k goals. But if you're from Panama or a Finland, you can't be considered as the GOAT?
You can be considered one of the GOATs but to say you are the Greatest of all time or the Greatest footballer ever is far fetched.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DeadPresidents: 12:42pm On Jul 11, 2021
TheLequte:
I agree it’s a good marketing ploy. Cos I don’t even think the monthly sub is worth it. Just add 3k and you’ll get x12 of the service.

How is PL on TV cheaper in Nigeria than in Brit? Is it because of the exchange rate or standard of living?
Nah... the British government try to "incentivise" UK viewers to watch local matches by drafting a law where all Saturday matches scheduled for the 3:00 - 5:00 time slot are not permitted to air on British broadcasting.

Basically, the government would rather you lift your åss up and go see the game live than watch on TV.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m):
Expert17:
Xavi, Zidane grin grin but not Messi and CR7.

So you would pick a player with world cup medal over 6 Ballon d'or grin grin
Don't try to twist my words it's idiosyncratic to you I know that. Messi and Ronaldo are one of the Greatest players to ever play the game, note "one of the greatest" but to say they are the Greatest of all time is what I don't agree with.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 1:05pm On Jul 11, 2021
Panther7:
Don't try to twist my words it's idiosyncratic to you I know that. Messi and Ronaldo are one of the Greatest players to ever play the game, noted "one of the greatest" but to say they are the Greatest of all time is what I don't agree with.
Okay, Messi and Cr7 are one of the greatest players to ever play the game.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 1:38pm On Jul 11, 2021
Expert17:
Okay, Messi and Cr7 are one of the greatest players to ever play the game.
Exactly!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 2:07pm On Jul 11, 2021
Messi is the GOAT, I will take or listen to nothing else.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 2:22pm On Jul 11, 2021
melodyogonna:
Messi is the GOAT, I will take or listen to nothing else.
"In air.mark style" Show us Messi's World Cup Trophy grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 2:28pm On Jul 11, 2021
TrebleChamp:
"In air.mark style" Show us Messi's World Cup Trophy grin grin
Count your GOAT's BDO
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:32pm On Jul 11, 2021
In any fair and balanced debate Pele is the G.O.A.T

He dominated at all levels and his combination of stats, achievements and eye test is unmatched.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:47pm On Jul 11, 2021
R.I.P Sound Sultan. embarassed
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Botfuss: 3:55pm On Jul 11, 2021
Sound sultan’s death hits so hard. cry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:11pm On Jul 11, 2021
For me, Messi is the G.O.A.T. He combines perfectly the qualities of all the other contenders for the G.O.A.T. crown and isn't lacking in any...He can score as well and as much as Pele and CR7, he dribbles with pace and mastery of the ball so much so if not better than Maradona, Garrincha and R9, he is as good a player maker like any other in history...

His vision and technical ability is right up there...It goes way beyond winning the world cup which can be influenced by many variables. For instance, this Argentine team is not the most talented in recent times but there are the once to deliver on the big stage. In Scaloni, they found a pragmatist whose style of play is in sync with the players at his disposal, they can play when they want, they can roughen things up if it demands...

I think away from trophies, a players ability to play football at a level that is unmatched should be the determining factor when discussing who is the greatest...And for me, I haven't seen anyone who is as complete a footballer as Messi, he dribbles, scores and creates chances like no other in the history of the beautiful game. If you think otherwise, I'll wait for you to point at someone who did it better...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:00pm On Jul 11, 2021
patrickmuf:
For me, Messi is the G.O.A.T. He combines perfectly the qualities of all the other contenders for the G.O.A.T. crown and isn't lacking in any...He can score as well and as much as Pele and CR7, he dribbles with pace and mastery of the ball so much so if not better than Maradona, Garrincha and R9, he is as good a player maker like any other in history...

His vision and technical ability is right up there...It goes way beyond winning the world cup which can be influenced by many variables. For instance, this Argentine team is not the most talented in recent times but there are the once to deliver on the big stage. In Scaloni, they found a pragmatist whose style of play is in sync with the players at his disposal, they can play when they want, they can roughen things up if it demands...

I think away from trophies, a players ability to play football at a level that is unmatched should be the determining factor when discussing who is the greatest...And for me, I haven't seen anyone who is as complete a footballer as Messi, he dribbles, scores and creates chances like no other in the history of the beautiful game. If you think otherwise, I'll wait for you to point at someone who did it better...
Pele was a slightly better scorer (especially at the highest levels), Messi was a slightly better dribbler (especially with the smooth pitches we have these days), Pele was far better at the highest level of football (the World Cup) and he scored more, assisted more and won more than Messi at this highest level of football.

Pele is the G.O.A.T


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwmrwHwxiKc

Let Messi try to dribble people on such terrible surfaces.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 5:03pm On Jul 11, 2021
Messi is better than CR7...... that's a Fact. I didn't watch Pele, Maradona and Co but I watched R9, Zizou and Co.

To me, Messi duly deserves GOAT Recognition. I never admitted it until he won Copa. World Cup or no World Cup, he's a fuckin GOAT.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:11pm On Jul 11, 2021
afrodoc2:
Pele was a slightly better scorer (especially at the highest levels), Messi was a slightly better dribbler (especially with the smooth pitches we have these days), Pele was far better at the highest level of football (the World Cup) and he scored more, assisted more and won more than Messi at this highest level of football.

Pele is the G.O.A.T


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwmrwHwxiKc

Let Messi try to dribble people on such terrible surfaces.
Is the world cup really the highest level of football right now? I think not...However, it was in Pele's time.

Whilst Pele is arguably a slightly better scorer, Messi beats him in dribbling and play making in general...

Talking about the pitch, we can also agree that the standard of football and quality of players have improved overtime thanks to the role of science in sports...Whilst we may not be able to say how will perform had they been born in either generation, one thing is certain, we can at least assess their overall game play in their respective eras. Pele in his time was a fantastic goal scorer with good dribbling skills and good playmaking added to it...

Messi as we have seen over the years is fantastic at all he does and I think that's where he edges it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:12pm On Jul 11, 2021
Oasis007:
Messi is better than CR7...... that's a Fact. I didn't watch Pele, Maradona and Co but I watched R9, Zizou and Co.

To me, Messi duly deserves GOAT Recognition. I never admitted it until he won Copa. World Cup or no World Cup, he's a fuckin GOAT.
He might be a GOUT (Greatest of ur time) but the GOAT is Pele.


Watch him nutmeg, dribble, and lob people for fun. That you didn't see something happen does not mean it never happened.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioA0DwrriWM
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 5:14pm On Jul 11, 2021
afrodoc2:
He might be a GOUT (Greatest of ur time) but the GOAT is Pele.


Watch him nutmeg, dribble, and lob people for fun. That you didn't see something happen does not mean it never happened.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioA0DwrriWM
cheesy

Doc..... why?!
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