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Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by rainluv: 4:47pm On Jul 11, 2021
Denn:


Should we not be tired already of people who form stories and say ‘God told me…’?


I tire o
When it's them it's fine, when it's someone else they begin to doubt and criticize
Hypocrites!!!!
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 4:48pm On Jul 11, 2021
rainluv:


Mr self-righteous,cry me an ocean!
You've been crying since yesterday

So Dare Adeboye is the righteous one that God didn't kill cos of his sin?

He died at his early age and in his sleep, remember?
oga I never insuinated what u wrote.
All I say is that his story of being a christian or how he said he is a christian is not biblical.
And if we should go by bible, Tb joshua was never a christian
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by rainluv: 4:49pm On Jul 11, 2021
Willzkid:

There is nothing like being born again from the mothers womb... it is not biblical
This statement equates him with the Lord Jesus Christ who is the only one born of a woman without sin....it is outright blasphemy brother, and I say this with so much love

Where did John the Baptist born again?
Moses?
Prophet Elijah?
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by bezimo(m): 4:49pm On Jul 11, 2021
oluwafemim:

He didn’t start the Pentecostal movement pls.

Yes he did..the Pentecostal movement in Africa in the 70s was birthed after the ministry of Idahosa. Go and study history. Dont expose ignorance here.

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Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 4:51pm On Jul 11, 2021
Willzkid:

There is nothing like being born again from the mothers womb... it is not biblical
This statement equates him with the Lord Jesus Christ who is the only one born of a woman without sin....it is outright blasphemy brother, and I say this with so much love
even Jesus got baptized before starting ministry, went for training in the synagogue from pharisees n sadducees sef

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Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by bezimo(m): 4:51pm On Jul 11, 2021
sukar886:
Am highly disappointed with oyedepo and adeboye for not attending tb joshua burial,even if he is evil,are they the one to judge him...why are the behaving as if they are God.i swear ,there is no love in Churches now,if is a native doctor that died now,you will see other native doctors attending the burial,that shows love ...if na politician die now,you will see all of them,just to get contact and money..only God can save us

You didn't attend yet condemning those that didn't.. like is your brain ok

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Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by rainluv: 4:51pm On Jul 11, 2021
youngpresidooo:
oga I never insuinated what u wrote.
All I say is that his story of being a christian or how he said he is a christian is not biblical.
And if we should go by bible, Tb joshua was never a christian

Sharap!
I'm a female and you refer to me as oga?
You too, madam!

If we should go by the Bible, you are a hypocrite and a condemner!!!!!!!!
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Investorlex(m): 4:52pm On Jul 11, 2021
safesurfer:
As a guy said up there, the fake primate is just trying to get some attention, which the likes of Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo et al will never give him.
His not looking for attention,has a deeper life member i have seen what the group pastors/leaders do to some of the congregation members (IN THE SENSE THAT SOME ARE NOT FINANCIALLY STABLE SO THEY CAN’T HOLD LEADERSHIP POSITIONS IN CHURCH WERE YOU PAY TITHE & OFFERING & WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN MEMBERS FOR A LONG PERIOD)
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by georgeakins: 4:52pm On Jul 11, 2021
safesurfer:
Then y'all will turn around and accuse them of hypocrisy if they attend the funeral. We sabi una style. The thing is, these mega pastors have nothing for, or against the late TB Joshua. But you can't associate with a person you can't vouch for. Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo, Eneche, Olukoya etc all mingle with one another, because to a certain extent, they can vouch for themselves. Even Pastor Chris that collaborated with him just once, quickly dissociated himself from him.



The main reason is that they all envy him, period.

There is no pastor in Nigeria today that is as popular as TB Joshua Worldwide .

They believe because they have some empty university degrees that TB Joshua should not be greater than them
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Babinski: 4:53pm On Jul 11, 2021
SporaD8:

Sincerely, am beginning to feel discomforted with the silent demeanor of these sets of MOGs especially pertaining to discuss of National and Public issue.
Perhaps, they have no idea the extent of cult-like followership they command, the millions of faithful that look upon their every move as the acceptable standard, for guidance and counselling and the responsibility attached to such Trust!
What manner of example are these people setting for Christ sake?!
Our Lord prayed for his murderer even in that hour of death, "Lord forgive them for they know not what they do."
Even though they are not obliged to attend the funeral, even though freedom of association or abstainance thereof is guaranteed in our law, Even if they believe TBJ is a demon from the pit of hell, atleast a common condolence to the wife and family the Deceased left behind would have gone a long way to lead them through to the right path and to show-case that example of LOVE which is the very essence of the Christian faith.

The desperation of some of you TB Joshua apologists is appalling!

Even if they believe TBJ is a demon from the pit of hell, atleast a common condolence to the wife and family the Deceased left behind would have gone a long way to lead them through to the right path and to show-case that example of LOVE which is the very essence of the Christian faith.

Haba! Can you imagine a Christian stating the above and feeling comfortable saying it? What has light got to do with darkness? So if a Babalawo or Juju man dies now, CAN or PFN should pay condolence visit to show love?! Haaa!

As you are going, you would even ask God to send condolence message to Satan when Satan loses some of his disciples and demons just to show what you label as LOVE!!!

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Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 4:53pm On Jul 11, 2021
rainluv:


Where did John the Baptist born again?
Moses?
Prophet Elijah?
all you listed were never in the dispensation of grace and eventhough they weren't they had an encounter. Notable one.
Moses met God while he was a shepherd hope you remember the fire burning and the leaves weren't burning .
Same with Elijah, and so on.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by rainluv: 4:54pm On Jul 11, 2021
youngpresidooo:
even Jesus got baptized before starting ministry, went for training in the synagogue from pharisees n sadducees sef

John the Baptist that started the baptism,who baptized him?
Who taught him?
Where did he go for his training?
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by lookingfly: 4:54pm On Jul 11, 2021
flamingREED:
My pastor Kumuyi @ 80+ has represented the faithfulness of God towards a genuine servant, an immortalized reference of the possibilities a believer can enjoy in all ramifications of life according to the scriptures.
so Jesus that didn't reach 50 in he's ministry, God wasn't faithful to him.......pls get sense this year na!
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 4:54pm On Jul 11, 2021
bezimo:


Yes he did..the Pentecostal movement in Africa in the 70s was birthed after the ministry of Idahosa. Go and study history. Dont expose ignorance here.
no he didn't .
Pa Elton I can say did.
But it is not about who did sha
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 4:55pm On Jul 11, 2021
rainluv:


Sharap!
I'm a female and you refer to me as oga?
You too, madam!

If we should go by the Bible, you are a hypocrite and a condemner!!!!!!!!
ok ma
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by rainluv: 4:56pm On Jul 11, 2021
youngpresidooo:
all you listed were never in the dispensation of grace and eventhough they weren't they had an encounter. Notable one.
Moses met God while he was a shepherd hope you remember the fire burning and the leaves weren't burning .
Same with Elijah, and so on.

Was It that encounter that converted Moses?
That encounter was God sending him on an errand, my friend
Tbj had those encounters as well
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 4:56pm On Jul 11, 2021
georgeakins:



The main reason is that they all envy him, period.

There is no pastor in Nigeria today that is as popular as TB Joshua Worldwide .

They believe because they have some empty university degrees that TB Joshua should not be greater than them
this is faulty.
Infact from statistics tb joshua is not even among the top 3 most influential pastors in the world from nigeria
I can bring many journals and links none sees tb joshua as top 5 sef

This is one
https://www.legit.ng/1192745-most-influential-pastors-world-who-updated-2021.html
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by lookingfly: 4:58pm On Jul 11, 2021
rainluv:


I tire o
When it's them it's fine, when it's someone else they begin to doubt and criticize
Hypocrites!!!!
I've even said he was drinking tea with the God and even said if you don't pay tithe you're going to hell cheesy
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Diligence: 4:58pm On Jul 11, 2021
Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing... By their fruits ye shall know dem.

Beware of false...

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Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Geesaintagape: 4:59pm On Jul 11, 2021
Don't blame them they are living in the zoo
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Gjmff: 4:59pm On Jul 11, 2021
Hmmm
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by trumpcoat(m): 5:00pm On Jul 11, 2021
Well spoken
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by rainluv: 5:00pm On Jul 11, 2021
Babinski:


The desperation of some of you TB Joshua apologists is appalling!

Even if they believe TBJ is a demon from the pit of hell, atleast a common condolence to the wife and family the Deceased left behind would have gone a long way to lead them through to the right path and to show-case that example of LOVE which is the very essence of the Christian faith.

Haba! Can you imagine a Christian stating the above and feeling comfortable saying it? What has light got to do with darkness? So if a Babalawo or Juju man dies now, CAN or PFN should pay condolence visit to show love?! Haaa!

As you are going, you would even ask God to send condolence message to Satan when Satan loses some of his disciples and demons just to show what you label as LOVE!!!

But Tbj sent condolence to Adeboye when he lost his son and asked his congregation to pray for the family

And yet,Tbj is the evil one and Adeboye the saint?
Even the Bible says we should pray and love our enemies

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Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by rainluv: 5:01pm On Jul 11, 2021
lookingfly:
I've even said he was drinking tea with the God and even said if you don't pay tithe you're going to hell cheesy

Lol
Please who said this?
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Willzkid(m): 5:01pm On Jul 11, 2021
rainluv:


Where did John the Baptist born again?
Moses?
Prophet Elijah?
The fact that you will even mention old testament figures shows that you don't understand the Bible or what "born again means"...
I'm sorry, these are foundation/new convert class stuff

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Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by rainluv: 5:01pm On Jul 11, 2021
youngpresidooo:
this is faulty.
Infact from statistics tb joshua is not even among the top 3 most influential pastors in the world from nigeria
I can bring many journals and links none sees tb joshua as top 5 sef

This is one
https://www.legit.ng/1192745-most-influential-pastors-world-who-updated-2021.html

Confusionist!!
Is Tbj a pastor?
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by youngpresidooo: 5:02pm On Jul 11, 2021
rainluv:


John the Baptist that started the baptism,who baptized him?
Who taught him?
Where did he go for his training?
like I told you records of John the baptist was not really detailed in the bible firstly. And secondly john the baptist was not even in our dispensation. Including Jesus sef. The resurrection of Jesus christ gave birth to our dispensation.
Now all what Jesus did was to teach us all what was important. Even Jesus talked about tithe, but he only made reference to it once and only said there are weathier matters eventhough it is right. You can read it yourself .
Matt 23:23, he was saying that they care about tithe and leaving weathier matters, and he said they shouldn't leave one and concentrate on the other, everything has to be preached.
That's why message in the church isn't salvation alone faith,love,mercy,judgement etc also needs attention
Lk 18:12 when a pharisee came to talk to him
I study my bible and talking based on study
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by rainluv: 5:03pm On Jul 11, 2021
Willzkid:

The fact that you will even mention old testament figures shows that you don't understand the Bible or what "born again means"...
I'm sorry, these are foundation/new convert class stuff

It was in the old testament that we had more prophets
Yarn another thing jo
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by chaloskyx: 5:04pm On Jul 11, 2021
IV SAID IT B4 RELIGION NAA CULT UNA NO GO HEAR MOST LIKELY TB JOSHUA WAS NOT INTRESTED IN BEING PART OF THEM DOING HIS OWN THING THATS WHY THE OTHER CULT MEMBERS UNILATERALLY DECIDED NOT TO GO CAUSE IF THESE MENTIONED PASTORS ARNT BLOOD BROTHERS AT LEAST ONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE A FOR GIVING SPIRIT TO ATTEND ALL OF THEM CANT JUST DECIDE NOT TO GO JUST LIKE THAT CHRISTIANS SHINE YOUR EYES MOST OF YOUR GOD OF MEN ARE EVIL THINK ABOUT IT THESE SAME MEN WELCOMED A SINNER FATOYIBO TO THEIR CONGRESS YEARS AGO EVEN AFTER HIS CRIME YET THEY CANT FORGIVE A MAN WHO DINT COMMIT SO MUCH AS AN OFFENCE WHY IS THAT? CAUSE THEY ARE ALL IN A CULT THINK BRETHREN THINK
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by Sunsets: 5:05pm On Jul 11, 2021
Nonsense talk. Vouch for you? That a man died and you can't sent words of sympathy publicly to the family. A prominent man died. A father. A life saver of many people. It is disheartening and troubling. What sort of Christianity are they practising. It is unbelievable that this happened. Who is the judge? Adeboye? Oyedepo? Who? Are they saints? Is it a cult? Adeboye is their Point 1 and different cells pay homage and submit to him. So,big he isn't going nobody goes. Tufiakwa!!!
safesurfer:
Then y'all will turn around and accuse them of hypocrisy if they attend the funeral. We sabi una style. The thing is, these mega pastors have nothing for, or against the late TB Joshua. But you can't associate with a person you can't vouch for. Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo, Eneche, Olukoya etc all mingle with one another, because to a certain extent, they can vouch for themselves. Even Pastor Chris that collaborated with him just once, quickly dissociated himself from him.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by longview007: 5:05pm On Jul 11, 2021
"Give a dog a bad name and hang him"

Its very shameful of them.

The funny thing is that so many members of their Church follows EmmanuelTv preaching actively and their Pastors know.

But for the fact that they don't want to lose the member to other church, they will not lay any action.

May God Forgive us all.

ITS WELL IN GODS NAME.
Re: Primate Ayodele: Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo Caused Hatred, Envy In Christendom by lookingfly: 5:07pm On Jul 11, 2021
rainluv:


Lol
Please who said this?
I don't want to call names but you should be able to see a video on YouTube of a Nigerian mog that made those comments. grin

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