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sagieramos:
Learn to be diplomatic with your argument. The guy you quoted is being factual, but all you have to counter him is by texting like a barbarian. From your review, how many people have you seen using the latest iPhone as compared to other brands?

skywalker240:
Nicely done


Am hoping they stamp their feet very firmly on the African market with great Anticipation

And slam, that SCAM OF A brand Oblivion

atheistandproud:
When Bayern and PSG dey quarrel, wetin Kano pillars wan go do for there?

atheistandproud:
Rather than yell over your keyboard or spout facts without context, why not back it up with plain facts.

Here are screenshots including a graph that shows that iphone sales have been steadily declining since 2014/15.

In 2018, in order to cover their backsides, apple stopped publishing iphone sales to the public. Do you think that it is a coincidence.

Yes I know you people love Apple and can sell your sisters and wives for their phones but when you come to my thread, come with evidence or shut the f*CK up!

emae009:
This is from GSMArena since you like evidence... it took the Iphone 11 9 months while for the iPhone 12 is a record.
You said Samsung overtook Apple in flagship sales? Go do your research properly. Break down Samsung, Xiaomi, OPPO, Huawei numbers, they all excel in mid-range to entry level markets.
The Samsung S20 line sales was bad that Samsung had to rush the release of the S21 copying Apple strategy of cutting cost making it their best flagship sales in a long time.
You are comparing Apple which by the way only sells flagship phones to the whole of Samsung, Xiaomi and the rest. Bring the sales figures of the Samsung S21, Xiaomi M11 line ups let's compare. If they're better, I'll put my mouth were my money is.
PS: Apple released the Iphone SE 2020 with outdated design for $400 and in just 5 months it was the 5th most bought phone for that year. That's just a tip that if Apple was to ever enter the midrange market, it'll be sayanora b****tches

atheistandproud:
In your haste to defend Apple, you have chosen to ignore reason.

1. The market is judged by the number of markets you control and the amount of phones sold not the TIME TAKEN to sell them. Common sense.

I sell 500 bananas in 10 mins, you sell 2000 bananas in 2 hours. I go come dey celebrate say I sell pass you. That is what you are saying.

2. I never said flagship sales. The smartphone market is not judged by flagship sales. How you managed to pull that out of your ear is amazing.

The market is judged by how many phones you can sell. From Entry level to Flagship.

3. If Apple are honest, why are they only giving estimate of sales to the public and not actual figures. They post their revenue regularly but won't post phone sales.

Samsung and Xiaomi are selling more phones than Apple at the moment. They're the top two in the market. It's as simple as that. No need to overcomplicate anything.

atheistandproud:
Rather than yell over your keyboard or spout facts without context, why not back it up with plain facts.

Here are screenshots including a graph that shows that iphone sales have been steadily declining since 2014/15.

In 2018, in order to cover their backsides, apple stopped publishing iphone sales to the public. Do you think that it is a coincidence.

Yes I know you people love Apple and can sell your sisters and wives for their phones but when you come to my thread, come with evidence or shut the f*CK up!

atheistandproud:
When Bayern and PSG dey quarrel, wetin Kano pillars wan go do for there?

emae009:
smh... FYI, Apple operates in the flagship realm. you selling 500 bananas in 10mins isn't relevant if 80% of your sales is 1 monetary unit while my 2000 sales in 2 hours are all in the higher cost limits.
Since you keep cherry picking what you think is your vantage points. Why not post Q1 market share?? See who is accusing a $2Trillion dollar company of not being honest. Why didn't Xiaomi make this same post in 2020 Q4 or 2021 Q1??
You're falling for a marketing strategy but will be the first in line to throw mud at people buying Apple products.
Samsung lost their #1 position to Huawei briefly and they responded by releasing series of series of midrange phones. Apple has been selling flagship and by Q4 they will be back at #2 as usual. That should tell you something. There's a reason why they are still the industry leader when it comes to mobile computing.

emae009:
smh... FYI, Apple operates in the flagship realm. you selling 500 bananas in 10mins isn't relevant if 80% of your sales is 1 monetary unit while my 2000 sales in 2 hours are all in the higher cost limits.
Since you keep cherry picking what you think is your vantage points. Why not post Q1 market share?? See who is accusing a $2Trillion dollar company of not being honest. Why didn't Xiaomi make this same post in 2020 Q4 or 2021 Q1??
You're falling for a marketing strategy but will be the first in line to throw mud at people buying Apple products.
Samsung lost their #1 position to Huawei briefly and they responded by releasing series of series of midrange phones. Apple has been selling flagship and by Q4 they will be back at #2 as usual. That should tell you something. There's a reason why they are still the industry leader when it comes to mobile computing.

Meister:
N.B. Huawei lost its position to Samsung because of the US sanctions not because Samsung allegedly produced more midrange phones.

I don't really understand what's so hard to understand in this thread, iPhone sells the most flagship phones (this is a known fact) but Xiaomi and Samsung sell more phones in general given that they also produce way more phones for every user irrespective of how much you can afford so I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

If you have a shop that you sell only 4 high selling products and I have an opposite shop and I sell 26 medium selling products I'll obviously sell more stuffs than you

Meister:
N.B. Huawei lost its position to Samsung because of the US sanctions not because Samsung allegedly produced more midrange phones.

I don't really understand what's so hard to understand in this thread, iPhone sells the most flagship phones (this is a known fact) but Xiaomi and Samsung sell more phones in general given that they also produce way more phones for every user irrespective of how much you can afford so I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

If you have a shop that you sell only 4 high selling products and I have an opposite shop and I sell 26 medium selling products I'll obviously sell more stuffs than you

atheistandproud:
Overpricing their products, you mean.

The only reason apple breaks even is because they overprice their products and have incredibly high (ludicrously high in fact) profit margins and combine all revenue from their vast ecosystems together.

Funnily enough, you my guy has been jumping from pillar to post, from apple selling the highest, to flagship sales and now to me being cherry picking.

My argument has been the same.

Premise 1: Apple sales are declining

Premise 2: Xiaomi are increasing

Conclusion: Xiaomi sells more than Apple does.

It's very simple logic.

Evidence: Canalys France and Xiaomi sales figures.

Why English hard like this?

emae009:
cherry picking because I've asked what happened in 2020 Q4 and 2021 Q1 after the same scenario of Apple sales declining and Xiaomi increasing happened in 2020 Q3. Did they stop selling phones during that period and went on a vacation??
You can only say Apple sales is declining when their YOY is net negative which isn't the case here.

dancok:
One thing i like about Android is their two sim function and the ability to modify it, if u want the feel of iPhone u can even turn it to iPhone.

Sunkyphil:
their fans will come hard for u oooo

NewDelhi:
All this xishit fan boys Sha.. your friend in Canada , just one out of the millions of iPhone users Nahim u dey use pass your judgement. The beauty about these xishit fanboys is that they always have a source for their ridiculous news. Mostly unknown websites and blogs you've never even seen or heard of before. One lazy blogger or web owner go just cook nonsense and because it favors your story, you go carry am con post here.

seanwilliam:
Lol upon all these iPhone has been the highest selling phone from 2016 till 2021 globally
2016- iPhone 6s
2017- iPhone 7
2018 - iPhone X
2019- iPhone XR
2020 - iPhone 11
2021- iPhone 12 and 12 pro max


The best selling touch screen phone in the world is iPhone 6 and 6 plus .. with over 220 millions

And iPhone 6 of 5 years still Dey perform o.. I doubt if any android of same year can match it ..
And I’ve never seen iPhone advertisements before .
All Other smart phones companies put together don’t worth half of apple.
I keep on asking myself , what’s their marketing strategy

There’s something apple is not telling us .

Apple's ecosystem is massive. Approximately a billion people are using iPhones and more than 1.5billion Apple devices. Even as iPhone sales decline, Apple is bringing tens of millions of new people into its ecosystem each year.
And funnily enough


China is the country where people used the most iPhones, followed by Apple's home market the United States – at that time, 228 million iPhones were in use in China and 120 million in the U.S.

So I wonder how xiaomi one take replace apple

atheistandproud:
You're starting to look like one of those people who argue for argument sake.

You have made a lot of erroneous claims and have completed refused to address many of my points.

1. Xiaomi have always posted their position since they got to 5th spot. So if anyone has fallen for marketing gimmicks, I believe you have a selfie camera. Look at it and put it on.

2. You have conveniently ignored the charts and screenshots from CNBC and Vice which shows that overall iphone sales are on the decline since the highs of the iPhone 6.

Unlike you, I use Canalys which is an authority in this matter and Canalys are not partial in their reportage. I also do not misrepresent figures as you have consistently tried to do. You have shifted goalposts now to quarterly reports.

In Q3 2020, Xiaomi climbed up to 3rd spot
In Q4 2020, Apple took top spot
In Q1 2021, Samsung took back 1st spot and Apple fell to 2nd
In Q2 2021, Samsung holds top spot and Xiaomi are now second. Apple have fallen to third place for the first time. That's the news.

It's so damn easy to comprehend. There's no need to masturbate over anything.

In terms of Revenue, Apple are still top. They're still one of the most valuable brands in the world. I can say this because I'm neither dishonest nor am I a brand soldier.

The news is the news, facts are facts.

At this moment, Xiaomi has overtaken Apple. Take it or leave it.

atheistandproud:
iPhone is like a house where there's gas cooker, pots and foodstuffs, but you're not allowed to cook. There's DSTV and Startimes with flatscreen OLED tv but you're not allowed to touch the remote.

You only eat whatever you're given and watch whatever you're told to watch.

That kind of restriction is why the Android market is burgeoning right now.

dancok:
i like iphone but i dont like their restrictions at all, i buy phones i can change my themes anyhow, i know there will be 1million of my kind out there,there by they have lose that 1million potential buyer because of their restrictions.

dancok:
i like iphone but i dont like their restrictions at all, i buy phones i can change my themes anyhow, i know there will be 1million of my kind out there,there by they have lose that 1million potential buyer because of their restrictions.

Benstino:
Wow. Learned people are becoming an endangered species. How can someone sane be such insulting in just a simple discussion? You either must be a bitter somebody or you got a very bad upbringing

atheistandproud:
Rather than yell over your keyboard or spout facts without context, why not back it up with plain facts.

Here are screenshots including a graph that shows that iphone sales have been steadily declining since 2014/15.

In 2018, in order to cover their backsides, apple stopped publishing iphone sales to the public. Do you think that it is a coincidence.

Yes I know you people love Apple and can sell your sisters and wives for their phones but when you come to my thread, come with evidence or shut the f*CK up!

dancok:
i like iphone but i dont like their restrictions at all, i buy phones i can change my themes anyhow, i know there will be 1million of my kind out there,there by they have lose that 1million potential buyer because of their restrictions.

emae009:
Q3 Apple were 4th, you post pictures you don't even look at. Which is why I said the same thing happened. I don't make erroneous claims, you can point them out if I did. I can point you to the post another Xiaomi fan make during that period repeating the same thing you said "Apple sales is declining, Xiaomi is increasing", " Apple like BlackBerry will soon go extinct" and the rest. Then Q4 happened which you still haven't answered the question I asked, is Apple sales is declining why did they suddenly beat everyone in Q4?
You answered your questions about the CNBC and Vice which I thought my bad you'd figured it out, the midrange wasn't dominant in that peroid. Apple don't operate much in that market. If 20 people had 5 options to choose from, you can assume to some degree of accuracy that 1 person will choose 4. If that options suddenly explodes to over say 50, then what you can only do as a company is consolidate your loyal customer base.
You said people are not buying iPhone 12 but I just showed you the record 100millions sales the phone made. That's a flagship phone sales. The same phone you said are overpriced yet the ones made by companies that don't overprice their phones (flagship) can't boast of the same number.
Lastly, I don't argue for argument sake, I'm even bored constantly replying you. The only reason I replied you was when you make two erroneous claims:
1) "People are no longer buying iPhones" (citing your cousin as a prove). When as you like to browse the net always the real stats was there which implies that either you deliberately ignored it to drive home your one sided point or you didn't know about it.
2) "Apple sales is declining and Xiaomi sales is increasing" - tactically you're not wrong but that's only if we want to have a myopic view at it. The whole flagship market is in decline just Apple, But Apple still sell the most flagship and their YOY is still net positive so an holistic view of that statement is wrong which again points to my "either or statement" of your first point.

seanwilliam:
now you’re sounding pained.. untop wetin ?.. all this xiaoshit users self.. see as u dey fume for mouth cos of phone .. no Dey take things personal haba.. las las everyone go use wetin dem like and wetin dem fit afford ..

emae009:
Q3 Apple were 4th, you post pictures you don't even look at. Which is why I said the same thing happened. I don't make erroneous claims, you can point them out if I did. I can point you to the post another Xiaomi fan make during that period repeating the same thing you said "Apple sales is declining, Xiaomi is increasing", " Apple like BlackBerry will soon go extinct" and the rest. Then Q4 happened which you still haven't answered the question I asked, if Apple sales is declining why did they suddenly beat everyone in Q4?
To answered your questions about the CNBC and Vice which I thought, my bad, you'd figured it out, the midrange wasn't dominant in that peroid. Apple don't operate much in that market. If 20 people had 5 options to choose from, you can assume to some degree of accuracy that 1 person will choose 4. If that options suddenly explodes to over say 50, then what you can only do as a company is consolidate your loyal customer base.
You said people are not buying iPhone 12 but I just showed you the record 100millions sales the phone made. That's a flagship phone sales. The same phone you said are overpriced yet the ones made by companies that don't overprice their phones (flagship) can't boast of the same number.
Lastly, I don't argue for argument sake, I'm even bored constantly replying you. The only reason I replied you was when you make two erroneous claims:
1) "People are no longer buying iPhones" (citing your cousin as a prove). When as you like to browse the net always the real stats was there which implies that either you deliberately ignored it to drive home your one sided point or you didn't know about it.
2) "Apple sales is declining and Xiaomi sales is increasing" - tactically you're not wrong but that's only if we want to have a myopic view at it. The whole flagship market is in decline not just Apple, But Apple still sell the most flagship and their YOY is still net positive so an holistic view of that statement is wrong which again points to my "either or statement" of your first point.

atheistandproud:
Yet here you are quoting me personally.

Let me know when you sell your unborn daughters for their latest flagship. Okwia.

Go your way, I only engage people with intellect.