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| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:18pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
LostMyZeal:Balon d'or is a trophy for the best player in Europe, it doesn't compare to Fifa which is the award for the best player in the world...Lewandowski was awarded the fifa best and deservedly so... This year, Messi is strong favorite...That he won and shone in the Copa America hosted by Brazil tips it in his favor... |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 4:19pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
Odunharry:Yeah they did...but they could have given him the ballon na. There mustn't be a ceremony. And then again...most of the times either of CR7 or messi got the FIFA best, ballon followed More like it's rare to win FIFA best and not win ballon |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 4:27pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
patrickmuf:You are a wise man |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kilishihunter: 4:29pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
LostMyZeal:Stats wise no one has more goals and assists this year than him, He was the best player/top scorer at the just concluded Copa America, Ballon d or is an award given on a yearly performance basis not seasonal like the FIFA the best award which would still look at performances for last year |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kilishihunter: 4:34pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
patrickmuf:Gbam, you've said it all, Even the year Modric won sef, Varane won the UCL and the world cup, he didn't still enter the top 3, Had it been it was France not Italy that won the euros, Kante would surely have a stronger shout than jorginho who had a good impact in his winning teams and entered the teams of the tournaments no doubt, but he wasn't even the best player in those teams |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:36pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
KingAlabi:there was never a time balon d'or was higher than fifa best award, balon d'or is like if there's a BBC player of the year award, then becomes popular if merged with EPl player of the year award. the Ballon d'Or takes into account a player's performances over the course of the calendar year, The Best assesses players over the course of a season, so from summer to summer. The winner of the Ballon d'Or is voted for exclusively by a panel of journalists from across the world. The Best, on the other hand, is decided by what FIFA describes as an "international jury" comprising the coaches and captains of national teams, journalists and fans. Naturally, the trophies themselves are also different. The Ballon d'Or is a striking golden ball resting on a pyrite base which is made to look like a bed of crystals. FIFA's The Best trophy, meanwhile, is a platinum and carbon construction, which resembles the highest prize in football - the World Cup. Though Balon d'or, aka, Golden ball started in 1956, is older than the fifa world player of the year which started in 1991, it has more recognition and prestige than the former. In 1991 the winner of the balon d'or placed second in fifa ranking, same thing in 94', in 96 the award was giving to Matthias instead of Ronaldo who won Fifa World Best, and Matthias didn't even make too three, where players like weah and shearer were recognized. In the year 2000, that was when we knew balon d'or was a consolation prize, given to figo, who did well but came second to Zidane in fifa world rating. 2001 you now have figo with Fifa award but Michael owen winning balon d'or but missing out in top three, where Beckham was second. Now the fact Henry didn't win a balon d'or is surprising, Sheve deserved his, maybe Nedved was slightly better than Henry in 2003. Fifa award and balon d'or most likely combined because of Messi and Ronaldo, imagine fifa giving one of them and balon d'or gives the other one. The debate of which award is higher no go end. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 4:40pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
patrickmuf:Hohohohohoho...Am I missing something here? I still remember the full name as FIFA Ballon'D crap And besides, all over the media, no one gives as much shiii about FIFA the best compared to Ballon. Can't remember Owen, Ronaldinho, Kaka and co being remembered for Fifa the best ![]() In summary, FiFA the best be like NNAMDI AZIKIWE while Ballon'D crap be like AHMADU BELLO. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:40pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
patrickmuf:That's why media and journalists are already tipping and shouting Jorginho's name for Balon d'or. Jorginho is the only player this season to win both UCL and Euros and star in both of them, team/squad of the season. The guy that said Jorginho not winning it would be robbery is right. Meanwhile Messi would likely win Fifa world best because of copa America |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 4:43pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
KingAlabi:Ok |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:44pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
Kilishihunter:Lol na your opinion, the journalists way go vote end of the year, don dey talk Jorginho. Make Chelsea also win Super cup and club world cup, you think Jorginho will not win it. You keep reading, Jorginho is integral to how Italy play ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 4:47pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
KingAlabi:Exactly...na Ballon be the Koko |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:49pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:Kante and Mendy were more instrumental in that UCL win and in the Euros, Donnaruma, Chiellini, Bonucci, Spinazolla and Veratti were more important...Jorginho was good no doubt but he was not the best player in any of the trophy winning teams...Messi on the other hand had only Lewandowski who bettered him in club football in terms of individual performance but he more than made up for it in the Copa America while Lewy and Poland couldn't make it past the group stage... At this point, Messi is favorite and deservedly so... |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kilishihunter: 4:49pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:Well the thing is that no one knows the criteria those journalists want to use, if it's trophies this year, then jorginho would win it but if it's average performances and stats then it's Messi and lewy that would be looked at and bro which journalists do you know that would vote called jorginho? Just asking for a friend |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:50pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
Odunharry:You just couldn't deal... |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 4:52pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
Kilishihunter:LoL...Messi ain't going near that award Tho I get that they've always been changing the rules just to get him to win it and it's obvious. You called copa America with confidence. That mickey Mouse shii ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:52pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
Fifa world player of the year tops the Balon d'or yesterday, today and tomorrow...If you no dey sure of something, no dey do strong head if not you no go ever learn... |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 4:57pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
BlueAngel444:Walahi...I pray they win both. Jorginho deserves it ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:57pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
LostMyZeal:You don't know what it means for Argentina to win at the Maracana... The fact that Argentina have failed many times before and were underdogs heading into that final means Messi gets more credit... |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 5:01pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
According to Maestro Mancini: Without Jorginho, our system wouldn't have worked. Make of that what you will ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 5:05pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
KingAlabi:Nah... It's still the FIFA best player award. Balon dor gained big time prominence in 2010 cos of its attaché with FIFA award. Else no won took balon dor very very serious before |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 5:05pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
patrickmuf:No sir, I totally get that Brazil has not lost on home ground for like over 5years or so prior to the finals which DiMaria won for Argentina with Messi being instrumental and allYeah! A great feat that is. But Copa America? Come on ![]() Not to forget that they intentionally made it an almost annual shii just for Messi to get his hands on it. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 5:08pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
patrickmuf:Baba.. KingAlabi aka Olein no dey do like this before na. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kilishihunter: 5:10pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
LostMyZeal:But you always finished him when he didn't win all this time since you knew it was also a "Mickey mouse" Trophy, Kudos to ronaldo and his teammates exploits in euros 2016, but I hope you know beating Brazil at home in a final is harder than Portugal doing so in France, The only person I can think of having any tiny chance of collecting the ballon d or ahead of messi is lewy, not any jorginho that was suddenly getting shouts after Italy entered the semi-finals, Someone that wasn't the best player in both of his title winning teams
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| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 5:10pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
It's no secret that EUROs is like World Cup. Why? The reason is simple; Europeans have always been the ones dominating the World cup knockout stages. That's enough reason to put EUROs up there with World Cup. So, a Copa America will never measure up. Alexis Sanchez - A ManUtd outcast win Copa America and dem no make any big deal out of am. Haba na ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 5:11pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
LostMyZeal:Na wa oo. Fifa the best award was originally or formally FIFA best player award. What is a balon dor compared to FIFA best player award. It's like comparing UCL and UEL and starts saying UEL is the best. Who dash monkey banana? Na FIFA sha for merging the two together, else dey for no get this disrespect ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:12pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
LostMyZeal:When Chile, Uruguay and Brazil won it in the past, did you call it a mickey mouse trophy? I find it funny that you guys hype the Nations league Portugal won, a friendly with a trophy yet call the Copa, a mickey mouse trophy... Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Colombia and the likes will go toe to toe with any European nation so, I don't get the disrespect y'all showing towards South America... |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 5:14pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
Kilishihunter:LoL... I've always been of the opinion that Messi should never be mentioned alongside CR7 until he at least wins SOMETHING for his country and now he's done it. So that means now he's worthy to be mentioned. So, ultimately nothing changed ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 5:15pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
Mehn!!! Can't Believe people I'll be alive and young and people will confidently rate Balon dor ahead of Fifa best player award. Like magazine and journalist award over Fifa award. Wow... Just wow!! |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 5:16pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
LostMyZeal:did Sanchez win it while at man u? No dey talk diz thing na ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 5:21pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
Jodera:My point is: Ballon gets more traction mostly cos of the prestige. And furthermore, FIFa the best award precedes Ballon award. It's usually after them give FIFa the best that people wait for the grand ceremony - which is Ballon. Prestige, talk points, Media and all na from Ballon. Capisce ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 5:24pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
patrickmuf:Lool... it's a mickey mouse trophy naa boss Haba ...it took Argentina so long to get their hands on it...shuuu Like I said: Europeans dominate the big stage. And for the bold, no be only Nations League Portugal dun win na. You ought to have mentioned EUROS na. But then, you know Euros no be Copa America mate. Nice one ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 5:26pm On Jul 16, 2021 |
Jodera:I meant that Alexis was a ManUtd outcast. Abi, wasn't he? That's the point. |
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