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joshboo:
Which kind cap be this, the NBA helped them get to the finals, you dey joke nii?


That wasn't an article, it was actually a podcast and the guy was speaking nothing but facts, you talked about Luka... Same Luka the media is already portraying as a cancer and no other superstar would want to go play with him cos he whines and complains too much?
Same Luka the Yankee media is saying tray, ha and zion are better than?
This is gianisses first show up in a post season and rightly so, he's gone thru the ropes to develop the mental aspect of his game n get here, dude isn't even in his prime biko always remember that.

So in your heart of hearts you call that raptors team useless, like realkt? Between baba we Sabi basketball if that warriors team was injury free, we won't be having this conversation please.

And Bleep yes that Giannis block was better, Ask any bballer to compare and analyze the 2 abeg its not even up for debate.

This is not about me being nigerian or anything it's the obvious truth staring us in the face & giannis does it on both ends of the floor, you dey call booker that's practically useless when he's not scoring?

You dey make reference to am like he's been on the max contract since, biko when did he sigh it? He's been a 2time MVP and dpoy in the space of how many years and to you that's no achievement?

For rings at what age did lebum n Jordan win tgeyr firsts? Same lebum that hadd to form a super team to achieve that? Same kd that joined one of the best teams ever to win championships?

How many of all the aforementioned can perform like this despite being with an obvious injury? Not like it points to anything actually but if kahwi, lebum or kd was doing all he's doing in this series at 70% the media would be mad agog with over the roof accolades.

And I'll make boldly say trophies aside in terms of performance and skill set, Giannis would definitely be better than Shaq, Shaq is not blind or stupid to admit himself that Giannis is better than him and he's still getting better bruv.

If Giannis had a legit scorer and consistent performer by his side omo the story go diff.

Same kd that's shown he can't star without co-all stars by his side? But agenda must Agend please.

And abeg giannis is not protected by any stupid media, if anything he's always thrown under the bus.

I'm confused oh. Shaq had Kobe, Steph had Klay and KD, Bron had Wade, Kyrie and AD. But heaven forbid Giannis has a competent scorer on his side

birdman:
Middleton is a jump shooter. He needs the volume. Superstars that share the ball get everyone else going first, then get theirs. All those 50-50 loose balls that they beat the Suns to, it feeds off of being involved in the plays. the 2 games the bucks have won, it has been getting everyone involved, so where is the failure?

So which ball did Middleton share that had him taking 13 more shots than everyone else. This thing wey una get for mind against Giannis una go soon confess am

A40:
Lool come on man. If you're talking higher stakes I agree. But degree of difficulty come on. Are you really comparing a chase down block to what Giannis did?

And as for the Giannis disrespect in mainstream conversations. Do you listen to Skip Bayless and Kendrick Perkins. Two people on two of sports biggest platforms are legit asking if Giannis is the batman on his own squad. A two time MVP and DPOY

Baba! Once again, I have said this before and I go repeat am, whose block is better is not really the direction of my argument. Una dey get am wrong! If I am pressed I will make a case for Giannis.

Here is what I am saying, the fact that we are having a conversation about that block in comparison to LeBum’s speaks to the level of respect Giannis is accorded. We are speaking of an All Time event in a game.. that speaks of respect.

SmooshCHN:
You want to use reverse psychology for us. All these things just point to the fact that you're h*ting on Giannis.

Him no too like Giannis like that sha. We don kana that one since the AD debate

Roland17:
Baba! Once again, I have said this before and I go repeat am, whose block is better is not really the direction of my argument. Una dey get am wrong! If I am pressed I will make a case for Giannis.

Here is what I am saying, the fact that we are having a conversation about that block in comparison to LeBum’s speaks to the level of respect Giannis is accorded. We are speaking of an All Time event in a game.. that speaks of respect.

Naah that was a freak block regardless of who did it. The only argument I'm hearing for Lenomad's is that one is higher stakes. Finish

Giannis is not getting those props for his reputation. That was an insane block whether it was done by Bam or Thanasis bro

joshboo:
Which kind cap be this, the NBA helped them get to the finals, you dey joke nii?


That wasn't an article, it was actually a podcast and the guy was speaking nothing but facts, you talked about Luka... Same Luka the media is already portraying as a cancer and no other superstar would want to go play with him cos he whines and complains too much?
Same Luka the Yankee media is saying tray, ha and zion are better than?
This is gianisses first show up in a post season and rightly so, he's gone thru the ropes to develop the mental aspect of his game n get here, dude isn't even in his prime biko always remember that.

So in your heart of hearts you call that raptors team useless, like realkt? Between baba we Sabi basketball if that warriors team was injury free, we won't be having this conversation please.

And Bleep yes that Giannis block was better, Ask any bballer to compare and analyze the 2 abeg its not even up for debate.

This is not about me being nigerian or anything it's the obvious truth staring us in the face & giannis does it on both ends of the floor, you dey call booker that's practically useless when he's not scoring?

You dey make reference to am like he's been on the max contract since, biko when did he sigh it? He's been a 2time MVP and dpoy in the space of how many years and to you that's no achievement?

For rings at what age did lebum n Jordan win tgeyr firsts? Same lebum that hadd to form a super team to achieve that? Same kd that joined one of the best teams ever to win championships?

How many of all the aforementioned can perform like this despite being with an obvious injury? Not like it points to anything actually but if kahwi, lebum or kd was doing all he's doing in this series at 70% the media would be mad agog with over the roof accolades.

And I'll make boldly say trophies aside in terms of performance and skill set, Giannis would definitely be better than Shaq, Shaq is not blind or stupid to admit himself that Giannis is better than him and he's still getting better bruv.

If Giannis had a legit scorer and consistent performer by his side omo the story go diff.

Same kd that's shown he can't star without co-all stars by his side? But agenda must Agend please.

And abeg giannis is not protected by any stupid media, if anything he's always thrown under the bus.

Baba, the media is filled with different segments. Doncic being called a Cancer does not remotely devalue his worth in the NBA. Kobe was described as similar, difficult to get along with but he won, guess what he is American. The GOAT was never described as your best friend type of team mate because of what he demanded from his team mates, not everyone can deal with that. Those are narratives that did not in any way, shape or form devalue the worth of the player is the face of the league. Are you telling me the mainstream media believes Trae is better than Doncic? No Na!!!

How about Kyrie? Can we talk about Kyrie? Is he not also called a cancer in the locker room? Disruptive and controlling but guess what? He is American! So make una stop. D. Cousins, Isaiah Thomas nko? As for Booker, Baba, read wetin I talk when I brought up Booker in the conversation and you will realize you are over reacting because we are the same page about that.

Oh well!! I see say you sef don see the say LeBum suppose dey work for car assembly considering how much assembly he has done to get his ring. Bringing up injuries in a finals again is what makes people question this narrative. Giannis himself would never bring up his injuries in the finals because he knows it is irrelevant at this time. Great players play through the worst injuries in the finals and never speak about it. We sit heard TB12 played with a torn MCL last season and no one knew! Now how true that is, is debatable but that is a conversation for another day.

A40:
Him no too like Giannis like that sha. We don kana that one since the AD debate

All of una get Buhari inside una I don’t dislike Giannis, honestly I don’t. I just don’t like the babying I am seeing on TV and here. He is a superstar Na!

A40:
Naah that was a freak block regardless of who did it. The only argument I'm hearing for Lenomad's is that one is higher stakes. Finish

Giannis is not getting those props for his reputation. That was an insane block whether it was done by Bam or Thanasis bro

Nope.. If to say na Thanasis/ Bam do am e for no get this kain hype! Hype to the level of being an All timer again LeBums? No Na. Again, I respect the block but that is not the onus of my argument.

Roland17:
Please tell me you are kidding with the attachment you have included! Please tell me this is a joke! I don’t know where you cropped it from but it is extremely obvious it lacks any kind of mainstream following which buttresses my point.

Let me get you straight, your idea of respect for Giannis is for him to be included in the conversation of GOAT or the face of the league? Habamana!!!! Dis Na the real problem..The fact that you deem that block better than LeBum’s and it is the narrative in the NBA today’s speaks to my point that Giannis gets a whole lot more respect than you are admitting. Like I said earlier, I could care less whose is better.

What exactly has Giannis achieved since he became a superstar to be placed on the same pedestal as LeBum/Kawhi/Slimreaper? I am LeBum’s biggest critic on this thread but the man has earned his stripe to even be in the conversation! This is nothing about back to back 40pt games, bro, anyone can put up that number! Booker nearly did, does that make him better than Giannis? Giannis performance or lack there of in the post season is open book for anyone to spy!

Outside of this season, what exactly has Giannis achieved in the post season? Please, this is not a conversation of his supporting cast! This is a conversation about him! Come on now!!! You guys have gone way too far with this thing.. At any point in time, can you make a credible statement that Giannis is the best player in the league? I am not talking about regular season MVP titles here! I am asking you to beat your chest and say over the last 3-4 years, there has been a year Giannis was better than LeBum, Slimreaper, Kawhi or even Curry? That Giannis was the best player in the league! This is what I mean whenever I question his mental strength. What effrontery !!!

Kawhi at his physical peak took a rubbish Raptors team to the finals and won a chip! Without Kawhi we can see the scam Siakam and the Raptors are! How about with the Spurs? Man these cats never made excuses because of team mates! Infact in the world of superstars, the excuse of team mates is not admissible let alone debatable. What are we even talking about here?

Do you have any idea how the league reveres Doncic? This man was projected to win the MVP even before the season started last season! Man just stop! There is no book where Doncic is disrespected because he is not American!!! He is ranked top 5 player in the league today on anybody’s list, so where is the disrespect? Embiid? You do realize Philly gave up its present and future to an African who can barely stay healthy! The entire City had trusted the process from day one and Embiid is the face of Philadelphia sports..Do you have any idea how much the Sixers and the entire City of Philadelphia have invested in Embiid? Man, this is about territory.. You earn it, nothing is given! Damian Lillard just turned 31, he is respected but he has to reel himself to the finals someway or somehow, he knows it..

Whoever wrote that stuff even had the nerve to bring up Shaq? Haaaaaaaaa!!! Make I leave that one because he is not anywhere close to the level of Shaw’s dominance..
Did you watch the pregame video by Spike Lee before game 4? I would encourage you to do that and focus on when Spike was flipping through jerseys and tell me what you see! That is respect.
You want to talk about players that have been disrespected? Talk about Charles Barkley, talk about Patrick Ewing, Talk about Isaiah Thomas, this man like KD was hated not even disrespected..Talk about D. Howard (there is even a debate questioning his HOF eligibility), talk about Penny Hardaway, Talk about David Robinson, Talk about “the Mail man (K. Malone)! There is no space in this world where Olajuwon is not respected.. There is no conversation about big men in the NBA where Olajuwon does not dominate the narrative.

Man, I know we are Africans and Nigerians by heritage but we are over doing this tin Na! Whatever Giannis achieves this season is what he is supposed to be doing! He is not an average Joe here! He is a superstar.. Make una stop with all these tins..No other superstar has enjoyed this degree of protection from the media.

Giannis is loyal? I get that but is he getting paid average Joe money? Giannis is getting paid a super max contract! The man is on a $228M contract with over $100M guaranteed and an annual salary of $25M in A SMALL MILWAUKEE and you are talking of disrespect!!!!!!!! what in God’s sacred name are we talking about here? The NBA is consciously looking to reward him for this decision. Let’s not act like he is getting paid peanuts or he restructured his contract to stay! The NBA has done its job by getting Giannis and the Bucks, a small market to the finals with a good chance of winning it all which will be great. Make no mistake, the league is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! If Giannis left, the Bucks would have been in tartars. That would be another small market that went crashing after its player left and the impact would affect the pockets of the league owners in their revenue sharing!

The annoying part be say, I am now seen as a Giannis hater because I expect a certain level from him..

The fact that you can say what has Giannis done and then use Kwahi and KD as examples shows that you are just holding on straws. Kwahi won a title with a team that has 3 future HOF, his second title was against a team that was missing 2 all-nba starters and their best player. KD has only won while playing for a team that has one 2 time MVP, a 2 time DPY, and a multi time all star all in their prime. Kawhi who won a finals MVP while averaging less than 15ppg, that's who you are using as an example. If you want to push your narrative at least use better examples

As for his contract, If Giannis had refused to sign you would have called him weak for joining a super team, now he resigned you are calling him a greedy leach. His supermax contract was not negotiable, he signed the only contract that the Bucks could offer him.

PS:
Even LeBron has only won with at least one all-nba player and in Miami he had two.

Roland17:
Nope.. If to say na Thanasis/ Bam do am e for no get this kain hype! Hype to the level of being an All timer again LeBums? No Na. Again, I respect the block but that is not the onus of my argument.

Bams block on Tatum last year received the same amount of hype so don't bring that excuse. For some reason you don't like the guy at least own up to your prejudices.

Roland17:
All of una get Buhari inside una I don’t dislike Giannis, honestly I don’t. I just don’t like the babying I am seeing on TV and here. He is a superstar Na!

Who is babying Giannis?? On the contrary Giannis's greatness has become commonized. This man dropped 26-14-8 with 2 steals and 3 blocks and we are talking more about a guy who shot 15/33.

He's one of the few players in the league that can drop 20 on a hyperextended knee and everybody goes back to sleep. Booker had a bad game 3 and nobody talked about it. Let Giannis airball a 3 or a free throw and we won't hear the end of it

Roland17:
Nope.. If to say na Thanasis/ Bam do am e for no get this kain hype! Hype to the level of being an All timer again LeBums? No Na. Again, I respect the block but that is not the onus of my argument.

Lmao. I've told you before and I'd say it again. The only thing Lenomad's block had on Giannis is that it was a higher leverage moment. Game 7! In terms of difficulty it was Giannis and it isn't close. Face to face block by default is harder than chase down block now imagine this one

Khanben:
Bams block on Tatum last year received the same amount of hype so don't bring that excuse. For some reason you don't like the guy at least own up to your prejudices.

I am going to ask you a simple question.

Specifically as it relates to the Giannis block and based on what you have read from my posts, what is the direction of my argument as it relates to Giannis, that block and respect?
Please continue to keep it civil and respectful.. well appreciated

A40:
I'm confused oh. Shaq had Kobe, Steph had Klay and KD, Bron had Wade, Kyrie and AD. But heaven forbid Giannis has a competent scorer on his side

Bro asin just imagine that for a minute? The guy literally does it all for that team, as in literally oooo. I'm a lebron stan but you can't be claiming goat when you are constantly assembling the best players for your team, na some of the stars even dey decline.

Abi na kd we wan talk?

But as i said Agenda must Agend. If giannis was American bruv na different tune the media n the whole of yankee go dey sing.

Khanben:
The fact that you can say what has Giannis done and then use Kwahi and KD as examples shows that you are just holding on straws. Kwahi won a title with a team that has 3 future HOF, his second title was against a team that was missing 2 all-nba starters and their best player. KD has only won while playing for a team that has one 2 time MVP, a 2 time DPY, and a multi time all star all in their prime. Kawhi who won a finals MVP while averaging less than 15ppg, that's who you are using as an example. If you want to push your narrative at least use better examples

As for his contract, If Giannis had refused to sign you would have called him weak for joining a super team, now he resigned you are calling him a greedy leach. His supermax contract was not negotiable, he signed the only contract that the Bucks could offer him.

PS:
Even LeBron has only won with at least one all-nba player and in Miami he had two.

Roland just dey disguise. He many not in full terms hate giannis but its obvious he dislikes him.

Same kahwi that's always load managing? As in some narratives dey shock me honestly.

Some casuals would mention AD, same AD that had even a better roster than this bucks team and was constantly swept away like dirty water..

A40:
Lmao. I've told you before and I'd say it again. The only thing Lenomad's block had on Giannis is that it was a higher leverage moment. Game 7! In terms of difficulty it was Giannis and it isn't close. Face to face block by default is harder than chase down block now imagine this one

That's the only leverage for that block it was a game 7. But in terms of execution and difficulty level giannis is way better x100. The score was 101-99 at that point if they mafe that shot the pendulum coudda swung towards the suns but he executed well without a foul and preserved the game for the bucks.

Defensive vets in the game who know what it means to be covering the p&r and still get up to block that shot called it the best block in finals history, but Roland thinks it's becos the media loves Giannis it's in the convo, like really??

joshboo:
Bro asin just imagine that for a minute? The guy literally does it all for that team, as in literally oooo. I'm a lebron stan but you can't be claiming goat when you are constantly assembling the best players for your team, na some of the stars even dey decline.

Abi na kd we wan talk?

But as i said Agenda must Agend. If giannis was American bruv na different tune the media n the whole of yankee go dey sing.

Paddy mi, Is Kyrie a cancer in the locker room? Is he also American? I need that answer like urgent 2K. I no hate Giannis ohhhhh

A40:
Who is babying Giannis?? On the contrary Giannis's greatness has become commonized. This man dropped 26-14-8 with 2 steals and 3 blocks and we are talking more about a guy who shot 15/33.

He's one of the few players in the league that can drop 20 on a hyperextended knee and everybody goes back to sleep. Booker had a bad game 3 and nobody talked about it. Let Giannis airball a 3 or a free throw and we won't hear the end of it

joshboo:
That's the only leverage for that block it was a game 7. But in terms of execution and difficulty level giannis is way better x100. The score was 101-99 at that point if they mafe that shot the pendulum coudda swung towards the suns but he executed well without a foul and preserved the game for the bucks.

Defensive vets in the game who know what it means to be covering the p&r and still get up to block that shot called it the best block in finals history, but Roland thinks it's becos the media loves Giannis it's in the convo, like reallt

Now I am more than convinced that you have absolutely misconstrued the direction of my argument as it relates to the block and respect. Make I wait for @Khanben to answer my question before I address this one.

I LOVE GIANNIS OH!

joshboo:
Roland just dey disguise. He many not in full terms hate giannis but its obvious he dislikes him.

Same kahwi that's always load managing? As in some narratives dey shock me honestly.

Some casuals would mention AD, same AD that had even a better roster than this bucks team and was constantly swept away like dirty water..

Josh I LOVE GIANNIS
GIANNIS NA MY MCM

Roland17:
Now I am more than convinced that you have absolutely misconstrued the direction of my argument as it relates to the block and respect. Make I wait for @Khanben to answer my question before I address this one.

I LOVE GIANNIS OH!

No dey disguise. . Wetin be your argument on the block den?

joshboo:
No dey disguise. . Wetin be your argument on the block den?

You no kukuma kee me

You see am I don catch you! You no even read am.. as soon as you see say na Giannis you just conclude.. Make I wait for @Khaben, make I see whether him go get am..

I LOVE GIANNIS! E remain make I tattoo am for my forehead.

Jrue in his bag today. He and Bobby Portis the biggest reason that 16pt deficit was wiped

If you're a Suns fan you're sick to death right now. Giannis and Middleton haven't even been special and you're behind

Roland17:
You no kukuma kee me

You see am I don catch you! You no even read am.. as soon as you see say na Giannis you just conclude.. Make I wait for @Khaben, make I see whether him go get am..

I LOVE GIANNIS! E remain make I tattoo am for my forehead.

Trust me I saw it, I want mk you re-iterate am since you Don start dey disguise sey you like giannis thanasis or no other person is pulling that off kk.

A40:
If you're a Suns fan you're sick to death right now. Giannis and Middleton haven't even been special and you're behind

They have no business trading baskets sef.

There's something about Bobby Portis mehn. Maybe it's the ginger or the crazy eyes but that guy is the ultimate X factor even without filling the stat sheet

joshboo:
Trust me I saw it, I want mk you re-iterate am since you Don start dey disguise sey you like giannis thanasis or no other person is pulling that off kk.

You still neva get am .

There is a reason I asked @Khanben to tell me what he understood from my post about the dunk because him sef don misconstrue everything. @Khanben made reference to Bam's block on Tatum last season and I wondering why such an important block did not get the hype if it was soo great? Giannis's block is going to be debated for ages as one of the biggest and best ever, if that isn't respect, I don't know what is.
If Bam's block is so good but not enough to get the LeBum's comparison then where is the disrespect? Precious Achiuwa blocked KD during the friendly but somehow it did not get the hype..except for Nigerians of course..replace Achiuwa with Giannis, what do u think will happen to that play?
In essence, another player could have had a similar block but not get the hype and LeBum's comparison as an all time great but Giannis executes it and because of the degree of respect he has in the league, it climbs up to be compared with Bum's block. I am not undervaluing that block, if anything, I lean towards Giannis's if pressed but the onus of the statement is hinged on the fact that Giannis's block gets a lot of value and respect

And if Giannis starts knocking down 20 footers. Pack it up pack it in

The Bucks look locked in..

A40:
And if Giannis starts knocking down 20 footers. Pack it up pack it in

Lol, I said the same thing. Bucks are definitely the better team

Funny how JVG always arguing for the big guys. As small as he is