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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by yommytino(m): 1:56pm On Jul 18, 2021
The other time it was drivers that striked, this time around it will be car owners cheesy cheesy
Uber/Bolts Car Owners Association

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity0001: 2:03pm On Jul 18, 2021
MrCarter577:
Actually, I didn't end the first trip, Since it was on surge, I just changed the Location to Lekki. Trip ended 6,400 for 1h.30mins. Hope it's a fair price or should be higher?

Its a fare price. Enjoy it bro.

Thought its good you update trip destination for security reasons.

Most importantly let the rider update from his end... Bolt can act funny some times... Rider can report trip and your account can be blocked permanently.

Got it.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Advision: 2:07pm On Jul 18, 2021
CheerfulGiver:
All these are permutations and are not real analysis. You analyze based on emotions, not facts.

Come back here after you've driven your own car for six straight months. I can talk because I have.

Have you?

grin grin I have been involved in the business since the days of Romeo the celebrity driver. I think he reinvented himself with a profile here.

Let's not measure balls here, I have been involved in this business when 40-45k was still the norm (around 2014). I maintain very residual interest in it, even at that I am not sure what you think you can sch me in.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Blackbishop(m): 2:07pm On Jul 18, 2021
izzou:
I really wonder how you partners break even with collecting 30k weekly, and still handle all repairs and maintenances

Jehovah. grin

Of all the transportation vehicles used in Nigeria, Uber own too poor.

Sienna to Abuja - 45k to 50k a week
LT bus from OkoAfo to CMS - 10k daily (Yes... daily)
Okada for some streets - 8k to 10k weekly

Then I'll buy Corolla at 2.5 million and be collecting 25k weekly and handle all maintenances? grin

With all due respect, Dru23, I know this is a big request, but do you mind showing us how you break even.

Please kindly educate us on how you do it. Because I just don't see how realistic it is

Check this out, you have 4 cars on the platform delivering 25k weekly that is 100k per week, as a business man you are not putting your home expenses on it. Per month you have 400k steady and you have up to par cars no weekly wahala.

So according to Dru he only run services and not major repair in 6 months that is 2.4milla. servicing and the minor repairs coat him 300k for the six months on all his cars that is a balance of 2.1milla left.

So as a business man he his making more profit.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:08pm On Jul 18, 2021
IFSHR:
I have cars on the platform and I drive as well...the achievable earning (net) in this hustle is 60k weekly...which is netting 10k daily without surge

On weeks with surge...you can climb 80k to 100k net (which is not consistent)

All those peeps flying around with dashboard (most of them uses a shared account)

Is it not same Lagos....with the traffic situation (the higher the long pickups you get the higher your chances of making enough : So the question is how many long distance journey can you cover in a day, beger to lekki this days you will spend close to 3hrs, lekki to sangotedo ?.. Ikeja to lekki? Island to ikorodu? How many of this can you get in a day. What makes the work easy is surge

On the part of the car owners maintenance and repairs is on the increase but if you source for quality parts it wont be a everytime thing, if your car requires repairs every two weeks or monthly apart from servicing then something is wrong.. but you can easily renegotiate with your partner's.....25k,30k,35k,40k you decide what you want, if the driver consider it high, both of you continue the search till you get what fits

Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:10pm On Jul 18, 2021
Advision:


grin grin I have been involved in the business since the days of Romeo the celebrity driver. I think he reinvented himself with a profile here.

Let's not measure balls here, I have been involved in this business when 40-45k was still the norm (around 2014). I maintain very residual interest in it, even at that I am not sure what you think you can sch me in.
Have you driven a car for 6 straight months? That's what I want to find out.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by IFSHR: 2:10pm On Jul 18, 2021
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It's either you are guilty of this or you are not... absolutely not my headache.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by IFSHR: 2:11pm On Jul 18, 2021
How much the driver makes with a car on rental is not the business of the car owner.. the problem is not the earning, the problem is the contract details used, and the man management prowess of the car owner....

The average car owner don't know anything about the business, and their failure starts from asking for just any rental agreement contract, they modify the name and validate the contract without personalising it to fit their preference and what they are offering..imagine a landlord in VGC using same tenancy agreement with a landlord in Akute e.t.c. Your rental agreement must represent the current economy and projected economy of the business (if not you will complain and cry every-time)

Secondly, Rental implies giving out/transfering possession of a particular thing (not ownership) to a second party for use in return for an agreed fee, termed rental fee) the returns generated from the use of the item is basically the rentee largese and by law in return he is expected to pay the agreed rental fee to the renter .... So whether the rentee makes more than the rental fee that's his gain and if the rentee makes less than it, definitely his loss, anything other than this is just individual play of give and take. For instance: you rent out a house and the company makes a lot of money and you feel cheated, the legal thing to do is to activate the part of the contract which states the rental fee is open to renegotiation, but the question is how many of this rental contract have such provision (none that I have seen)

Thirdly, under rental especially for an item that has depreciating or appreciating attribute there must always be a well stated plan of action, when it comes to maintenance and repairs, most of the rental agreement just indicate repairs and maintenance to be handled by owner (wrong move) some indicate that repairs below or above this amount (wrong move). Imagine renting a house and your bulb gets spoilt and you start disturbing your landlord (?). For car , there are two type of cost ...running cost and repair cost....running cost such as fueling, servicing, buying of battery, electrical fault ought to be handled by the driver, why repairs such as engine related, gear related and other high end expenses should be handled by the renter (ownership is not transferred)

Renter (car owner) have every right to review his rental fee, very legal, that can be done reviewing the current earning possiblity, the current repair expenses, and you draw up your contract and table your offer to the rentee (driver) it's left for him to accept, reject or counter offer. (simple).

Lastly, the man management skill, if you don't possess it, you have no business investing in this nature of business... You must be ready to hire, review, fire, and inspect....lack in any of those areas and you will cry bitterly...

I will restate my point, any amount the driver makes out of the car is never the business of the car owner....if you want most of the earning to be yours as the owner, then what you have to do is employ drivers (I moove)

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:13pm On Jul 18, 2021
yommytino:
The other time it was drivers that striked, this time around it will be car owners cheesy cheesy
Uber/Bolts Car Owners Association
I dare them.
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:13pm On Jul 18, 2021
IFSHR:


It's either you are guilty of this or you are not... absolutely not my headache.
Its headache enough for you to think that's how they do it.
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:14pm On Jul 18, 2021
Pearl1910:


Guy speak English. This is not your kparakpo meeting.

Owner that has bought car should park d car in garage and be collecting weekly rentals from his 2.5m car.
Before u where born rental has be happening, it's u that want to come and know more than the world.
Or leave the money in a bank and collect 2% monthly

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by IFSHR: 2:16pm On Jul 18, 2021
CheerfulGiver:
Its headache enough for you to think that's how they do it.

It's a major one for you to spend all energy proving that no one does it.....speak for yourself oga ade

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Advision: 2:22pm On Jul 18, 2021
CheerfulGiver:
Have you driven a car for 6 straight months? That's what I want to find out.

I have managed cars actively on the platform for over 3 years. In all this while, I maintained an active bolt driver account I used during the weekends when the most money were on the table.

Even without driving full time and having now retired since rentals and costs became unfavourable.

No one can run the business profitably even on 25k rental right now using tokunbo cars, not even moove with their large fleet n economies of scale. Personally when, I understood the business better, I converted all my cars to hire purchase at 35k with 300k upfront.

If there is something you think you can school me on, say it, I am listening. Dont tell you you have driven for longer than I have.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:22pm On Jul 18, 2021
IFSHR:


It's a major one for you to spend all energy proving that no one does it.....speak for yourself oga ade
Oh I always do, with evidence. And always will
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by IFSHR: 2:24pm On Jul 18, 2021
CheerfulGiver:
Oh I always do, with evidence. And always will

Are u asking for my permission, I can't remember telling you not to...Abi which one b plenty talk...egbami

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dru23(m): 2:24pm On Jul 18, 2021
Blackbishop:


Check this out, you have 4 cars on the platform delivering 25k weekly that is 100k per week, as a business man you are not putting your home expenses on it. Per month you have 400k steady and you have up to par cars no weekly wahala.

So according to Dru he only run services and not major repair in 6 months that is 2.4milla. servicing and the minor repairs coat him 300k for the six months on all his cars that is a balance of 2.1milla left.

So as a business man he his making more profit.

But it is not easy at all .... Having good drivers plays a major part.. So this is why my rental is 25k ... Am not saying that my method will work for EVERYONE......

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:26pm On Jul 18, 2021
Advision:


I have managed cars actively on the platform for over 3 years. In all this while, I maintained an active bolt driver account I used during the weekends when the most money were on the table.

Even without driving full time and having now retired since rentals and costs became unfavourable.

No one can run the business profitably even on 25k rental right now using tokunbo cars, not even moove with their large fleet n economies of scale. Personally when, I understood the business better, I converted all my cars to hire purchase at 35k with 300k upfront.

If there is something you think you can school me on, say it, I am listening. Dont tell you you have driven for longer than I have.
You'ce not driven for straight 6 months. A simple no would have sufficed. The other conjunctions up there are a failed attempt to justify why you think 40k weekly is right.

You've not done it. So you cant actually opine based on non personal weekly driving experience. Anyone that drives full-time will never advocate for 40k weekly.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Bobbiet(m): 2:29pm On Jul 18, 2021
Good evening pilots....

I'm here with a knowledge seeking question.

I'm based in Benin and I've been looking for a car to ride on e-hailing.

So last week I went to a office and was offered a car with certain criteria to meet.

About 60k deposit and 2 guarantors.

I'll balance 8k daily, 6days a week.

Car is strictly on rental.

I'll be paid 50k monthly.

Pilots in the house, is this a fair deal? Can I meet up in Benin?

My target in raising enough money to get a decent Nigerian used car in less than 5months.
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dru23(m): 2:30pm On Jul 18, 2021
Advision:


I have managed cars actively on the platform for over 3 years. In all this while, I maintained an active bolt driver account I used during the weekends when the most money were on the table.

Even without driving full time and having now retired since rentals and costs became unfavourable.

No one can run the business profitably even on 25k rental right now using tokunbo cars, not even moove with their large fleet n economies of scale. Personally when, I understood the business better, I converted all my cars to hire purchase at 35k with 300k upfront.

If there is something you think you can school me on, say it, I am listening. Dont tell you you have driven for longer than I have.


I don't think new investors can make 25k currently especially on Tokunbo cars.... But old investors that have excess to cheap cars and forex will do ok .....
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity0001: 2:37pm On Jul 18, 2021
kanuisagoat:


So when we give a vehicle to a married man how much should he remit and who will bear the cost of maintenance?

I thought I made myself clear already on how much is ok for married couple and singles...

So where did you not understand?

As a matter of fact 25k is very very much okay generally so pets not create any form of segregation.

I read somebody said bolt has increase the fare, what kind of poor analysis is that? How much was fuel b4?

Its reasonable to say owners should increase rental fee due to inflation on cost of purchase of cars and cost of repairs and parts but to say because of surge and N70/km is not a technical way to argue at all.

Any owner that wants to rent at 30k and above should opt to hp and stop acting like you're doing the driver favour for his hard work by maintaining your own car. Mind you these drivers are only renting your car and no matter how long or how many years he uses the car on rental the car still belongs to you and not his so why should I rent a car for 30k and above? For what As as how na?!

If it's HP then the driver knows he's working to get something at the end of the contract but how certain can a driver drive on rental to buy his own car? How possible can a man with responsibilities be able to save 2.5m to buy a corolla?

So you guys should understand there's a large different btw rental and HP so why asking for same amount? Same owner on rental with a particular car for 3yrs wants 30k per week as one on HP, so tell me who is the selfish one here now?

The renter
The hirer
Or the rentee?

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by CheerfulGiver: 2:43pm On Jul 18, 2021
Bobbiet:
Good evening pilots....

I'm here with a knowledge seeking question.

I'm based in Benin and I've been looking for a car to ride on e-hailing.

So last week I went to a office and was offered a car with certain criteria to meet.

About 60k deposit and 2 guarantors.

I'll balance 8k daily, 6days a week.

Car is strictly on rental.

I'll be paid 50k monthly.

Pilots in the house, is this a fair deal? Can I meet up in Benin?

My target in raising enough money to get a decent Nigerian used car in less than 5months.
its total bullshit

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity0001: 2:44pm On Jul 18, 2021
hopefullight:


With your write up, its obvious you are a driver and you want to Remain a driver for the rest of your life paying Partners 25k weekly.

You are talking as if the car owner contribute nothing to the business.

Let even assume the business generate 80k net income every week( "assumption) is 25k payment Not shameful and heartless to you?

With the Dashboard we are All seeing( thanks to dru, weekly remittance must be 40k expecially for corolla and other tokunbo Brands.

@DonnyE, do you have a car Doing uber?

Many drivers are craving for cars now...

See your mouth like 40k40k... Can you drive? Do you have a car on the platform or a prospective investors? I assure you you'll be frustrated out of the business in 3months without even making 50% of your capital if you continue in this mentality of yours.

Take a uber job and see how far it is.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by LilX: 2:45pm On Jul 18, 2021
Felicity0001:


I thought I made myself clear already on how much is ok for married couple and singles...

So where did you not understand?

As a matter of fact 25k is very very much okay generally so pets not create any form of segregation.

I read somebody said bolt has increase the fare, what kind of poor analysis is that? How much was fuel b4?

Its reasonable to say owners should increase rental fee due to inflation on cost of purchase of cars and cost of repairs and parts but to say because of surge and N70/km is not a technical way to argue at all.

Any owner that wants to rent at 30k and above should opt to hp and stop acting like you're doing the driver favour for his hard work by maintaining your own car. Mind you these drivers are only renting your car and no matter how long or how many years he uses the car on rental the car still belongs to you and not his so why should I rent a car for 30k and above? For what As as how na?!

If it's HP then the driver knows he's working to get something at the end of the contract but how certain can a driver drive on rental to buy his own car? How possible can a man with responsibilities be able to save 2.5m to buy a corolla?

So you guys should understand there's a large different btw rental and HP so why asking for same amount? Same owner on rental with a particular car for 3yrs wants 30k per week as one on HP, so tell me who is the selfish one here now?

The renter
The hirer
Or the rentee?


Full stop

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by LilX: 2:47pm On Jul 18, 2021
Felicity0001:


See your mouth like 40k40k... Can you drive? Do you have a car on the platform or a prospective investors? I assure you you'll be frustrated out of the business in 3months without even making 50% of your capital if you continue in this mentality of yours.

Take a uber job and see how far it is.



I don't kill myself , I do what I can do, I'm on rental and I set my target, I'm not greedy to target 30k a day. I can send my dashboard here , once I make 10k net a day. I'm home , I save my strength and the car have less burden .

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Pearl1910: 2:48pm On Jul 18, 2021
dapotemi:



No sir, its not easy to be honest.. Its not about lion share, its about being reasonable and fair.. I work for someone, i earn salary, i got a degree to be qualified for that job, i put in alot of effort to get that degree, i leave my house 5am everyday to get to work 7/8am....You see that my CEO, she stays in banana island, usually come to work around 11am or even 1pm, sometimes she does not show up self and there is nothing we can do.. My self and all other staff put in the CRAFT and INTELLIGENCE, facing threat every day at different bus stop, jumping bus etc.. You know what, on monday am going to walk up to my boss and explain to her, why i should be earning more than her? Pls advice me..
You see how you driver reason here..

I told u to go and learn Rentals/Lease. Owner doesn't employ Driver. Driver is renting the car. Abeg make una wey understand this guy language Interprete for am.
If u want 100k weekly employ Driver pay him salary and give him KPIs. If he doesn't meet the targets u sack him. Just like u will be sacked if u aren't meeting up in ur office and u can never earn more than ur employer as an employee.
The earlier u drop the reasoning that car owner is an employer of driver the faster u will understand and get a hold of the whole thing.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Advision: 2:54pm On Jul 18, 2021
CheerfulGiver:
You'ce not driven for straight 6 months. A simple no would have sufficed. The other conjunctions up there are a failed attempt to justify why you think 40k weekly is right.

You've not done it. So you cant actually opine based on non personal weekly driving experience. Anyone that drives full-time will never advocate for 40k weekly.

You best argument to kicking against 40k ia that you have driven for 6 months. Bro, it holds no water here. I will provide you a basis for my own:

Eatimates:

Corrola 2006 toks: 2.5M
Minor repairs before deplyment: 75k
Total outlay: 2.6M

**Running expense and income

1. 1st year total rental at 25k : 1200k for 12months (because its toks assume near 100% uptime)

2. Servicing every 2 months using the cheapest engine oil, oil filter: 15k per servicing (90k per year)

3. Shock absorber (35k _50k), brake parts, clutch (15-30k), tyres (30k) (twice a year at the least for a well maintained car: total is 210k)

4. Papers & comp. insurance (5%): 175k

5. Miscellaneous: 50k

Net income to partner:1.2M - 100k -210k -175k -50k = 665k

From year 2, I can bet the partner will not see 665k as car maintainance will start shooting up and he will not achieve 100% uptime.

In essence even after 5 years at 25k he may not recover his capital talk less of profit, especially if a discount factor is applied to account for time value of money.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by hopefullight: 2:55pm On Jul 18, 2021
Felicity0001:


See your mouth like 40k40k... Can you drive? Do you have a car on the platform or a prospective investors? I assure you you'll be frustrated out of the business in 3months without even making 50% of your capital if you continue in this mentality of yours.

Take a uber job and see how far it is.


To your quesrion, yes I can drive and I am also a Stakeholder in the industry.

If you cannot drive it for 40k others will do it.

Its dru that spoil people like u...25k weekly for a 2.5m car.

@dru23: how many years does it take you to break-even on a car with 25k?

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by izzou(m): 2:59pm On Jul 18, 2021
Nothing concerns me with what the driver makes.

My own take is that with the current reality we live in, 25k will not make any car owner break even

Blackbishop, I understand the fact that Dru23 has a fleet. But what about those with just one Corolla?

100k a month and you spend a mandatory 10k plus to service. Let's not talk about if something major or minor goes bad. That's like taking 75k a month

So at what point will the person recoup his 2.5 million, and start enjoying sara money?

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dru23(m): 3:04pm On Jul 18, 2021
hopefullight:


To your quesrion, yes I can drive and I am also a Stakeholder in the industry.

If you cannot drive it for 40k others will do it.

Its dru that spoil people like u...25k weekly for a 2.5m car.

@dru23: how many years does it take you to break-even on a car with 25k?


The Honda Civic 03 to 05, I try to buy them nothing more than N1.5m using exchange $1 to N500 .... I keep under 1.5m even under this Buhari exchange .....

What matters to me is as long as the business pays itself .... If I don't have to take out money to fix things than ok.......

Again having good car and driver is at least 70% part for the business to succeed

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by izzou(m): 3:05pm On Jul 18, 2021
kanuisagoat:


Wetin person go do? I went to one of these parks to make enquiries about giving them a Sienna. While the returns made more sense than bolt, I didn't like the fact that I won't be involved at all. They recruit the driver, handle repairs and maintenance and just give you your returns. At the end of two years or so, the contract ends. Unfortunately, I have learnt some bitter lessons in the past about business models like that and I can't put my money in anything where I won't be actively involved. I also know that the vehicle they will return at the end of two years will be closer to a coffin than a vehicle.

Na so I say make I manage bolt like that. Money cannot be left to idle away in the bank.

You can be actively involved. It depends on the arrangement.

Partners collecting 25k are really trying. Especially those with just one car.

I don't see how that's feasible

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Advision: 3:05pm On Jul 18, 2021
From a driver perspective. There was barely a weekend I didnt gross 40 - 50k (net at least 25k) even during the driest period. On public holidays/festivals, I can do 50k in 1 day if I drive morning and evenings.

Mind you these figures where made morning and evenings only because I typically hate afternoon traffic and selcting only trips to areas I consider to have good roads.

Morning rush (excluding bonus) 5am - 12noon, a driver can consistently make 8k net (Monday - Wednesday), slightly lower on Thursday and Fridays at atleast 4k net.

Nb- I did not factor afternoon and evening weekdays because I almost never did drive by then. But even fron the drivers app, with the surge that comes up at peak afternoon and late in the evening, will the driver not make something?

No serious driver should make less tha 60k net a week execpt under extraordinary circumstances. And if you make 60k and owner of the car collects 40k (2/3), it is not too much given that he owns the car, carries the risk of business failure and bares maintenance
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by hopefullight: 3:05pm On Jul 18, 2021
dru23:


But it is not easy at all .... Having good drivers plays a major part.. So this is why my rental is 25k ... Am not saying that my method will work for EVERYONE......


With your 25k weekly in tokunbo cars, they will still insult you...Good driver or not 25k weekly is Not a recommendable business model. Kindly increase your weekly charges.

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