nonut:

Ikwerre thinks Igbos are Ikwerre?
NOTHING WEY PERSON NO GO HEAR FOR NAIRALAND.

Xbobtage:


The Ikwerre people are indigenous people of Rivers State and have been in Rivers state longer the longest. This Benin story is only correct for some Ahoada clans in Rivers state, and was stupidly been peddled by some uninformed ikwerre politicians and sadly this is now being peddled by some learned people who are too lazy to research their own history.

My great grand father was an educated man, and was a custodian of our peoples culture in rivers state, I will share some of that knowledge with anyone listening.

There was nothing understood to be igbo tribe amongst the igboic speaking before the formation of Nigeria. Anyone who understood igbo especially igboic speaking people would just say I understand igbo and then say the name of their clan.

The people who reffered to them as igbo would be people from far away from the old eastern region as most people of the now SS would understand and speak some igbo as a second language as well as the language was an important language for business The only reason why we are all hearing igbo this or igbo that is because of the creation of Nigeria, the people who are igbo speaking bought and sold theirselves for centuries, and never found it necessary to see themselves alike. So for all the hatred igbos have on nigeria, just know that Nigeria is best thing to happen to igbo people, it brought igbo people together (atleast for now, all the SE states together)

In the past the Aros considered their selves to be superior to every other clan in their trade route, other clans like the Nri also thought themselves to be superior as well.

The people who call themselves ikwerre today are actually of diverse origin, Ikwerre land being the last part of the igboic hinterland before the creeks/ocean was settled by different people from different places who came to cash out from the booming slave trade, back then it was easy to get slaves from igboland as their people were in large numbers and they had caste system.

The original Ikwerres were the most powerful igboic people east of the niger and the biggest slave dealers, hence the name iwhurunoha which means in the presence of the greatest men, they were mostly warriors and slave kidnappers who were also into kingdom building and empire advancement which explains the vast amount of land owned by the ikwerres today . Their people controlled the Aro confederacy at a point before their king was dethroned by other warring clans. The original ikwerre people are actually an off shoot of ngwa people, but ikwerreland was inhabited by people from all over. Before the Nigeria/ Nigerian civil war no ikwerre person would take offense with being called igbo, hell, no one would actually introduce theirselve as an igbo man, that would have seem as vague as saying I am african. If you called a person who spoke igbo an igboman, they would not dispute it, as it would basically be understood as a person who can speak igbo, this is true for so many tribes in the SS that are now understood not to be igbo people.

Today, most ikwerre people do not know that a major part of current imo state is ikwerre land, and the ohaji people, egbema people are also ikwere people, and that in their midst are actual people from igbo hinterland who came and settled their. They may only know the Aro Osu people who came in the early 1900s.

I am asking all learned ikwerres to resist the history twisting which bad politicians and bad leaders are trying to use to make them foreigners in the very land that their forefathers were birthed to, fought for and defended.

They can argue that ikwerre wants to be seen as a distinct ethnicity as igbos,(for which I wouldnt see the benefit) but dont let some few selfish people get away with arm twisiting your history for their personal gains, and declaring you non indigenes to a land that you are truly indigenous to.

As a matter of facr if there is any igboic speaking clan that would be argued as the originator/progenator of igbo language and culture, it would be the ikwerre people and the Isu people of imo and anambra state. Because from my findings, the igbo clans in Abia have ancestral ties with the efiks and the ibibios, the Nsukka people have theirs with the the Idoma people. the ebonyi people have their with the ogoja people of cross river, the nothern Anambras and some anioma people have theirs with the igalas, the nothern aniomas have theirs with the binis. The Ikwerres do not have any ancestral ties to any other known group, rather they dominated the lifestyle in the creeks and are responsible for introducing igbo centric cultures to my people in the creeks, when my great grandparents were talking about igbo people they were doing business with from the hinterland, they were actually talking about the Ikwerres, most riverine communities in Rivers state know the ikwerre people as Igbo people according to history.

nonut:

Ikwerre thinks Igbos are Ikwerre?
NOTHING WEY PERSON NO GO HEAR FOR NAIRALAND.

jetwonder:
Nice One! I Need More Of It.

Because from my findings, the igbo clans in Abia have ancestral ties with the efiks and the ibibios, the Nsukka people have theirs with the the Idoma people. the ebonyi people have their with the ogoja people of cross river, the nothern Anambras and some anioma people have theirs with the igalas, the nothern aniomas have theirs with the binis. The Ikwerres do not have any ancestral ties to any other known group, rather they dominated the lifestyle in the creeks and are responsible for introducing igbo centric cultures to my people in the creeks, when my great grandparents were talking about igbo people they were doing business with from the hinterland, they were actually talking about the Ikwerres, most riverine communities in Rivers state know the ikwerre people as Igbo people according to history.

Emilokoiyawon:


Bini is a small village. Dem no born Oba lil Wayne, Dosunmu or Okunnu well make dem make video say any nonsense. If they are really true Binis let them come out on video publicly and say it. Dem no born dem well. Na me talk am!

Xbobtage:


The Ikwerre people are indigenous people of Rivers State and have been in Rivers state longer the longest. This Benin story is only correct for some Ahoada clans in Rivers state, and was stupidly been peddled by some uninformed ikwerre politicians and sadly this is now being peddled by some learned people who are too lazy to research their own history.

My great grand father was an educated man, and was a custodian of our peoples culture in rivers state, I will share some of that knowledge with anyone listening.

The Ikwerres do not have any ancestral ties to any other known group, rather they dominated the lifestyle in the creeks and are responsible for introducing igbo centric cultures to my people in the creeks, when my great grandparents were talking about igbo people they were doing business with from the hinterland, they were actually talking about the Ikwerres, most riverine communities in Rivers state know the ikwerre people as Igbo people according to history.

Walkee:
lol
This is actually funny because you don't know that Anambra and Agbor were colonies of the Benin. No kingdom in the whole of West West Africa come close to the old Benin kingdom. even Britain couldn't do anything to it on their own. You are talking about the only kingdom that stood firm even the scramble of west Africa by the Europeans lol. Igbo never had a powerful kingdom or empire

jimyjames:

It doesn't contradicts anything the ikwerre's are an igbo clan, the igbo slaves under bini kingdom during the bini empire

onumadu:


This is exactly why Nnamdi Kanu insists that every group in the South East and South south, up to southern Benue are ONE, united by origination.
These days, you see people trying to separate Igbo from Ibibio (who have been there for thousand years) for example, but they don't attempt to separate Hausa from Fulani who just came in 1804.

As for the topic, everybody enslaved everybody in our part of Africa and it is a shameful legacy that no intelligent African should want to identify with.
Reno is only desperate for attention, and should be ignored.

Mexzy4sho:
Mumu!!!!

So unnecessary.

Woman no even talk about anything relating to history then Gbam!!!! Reno don dey school person.

Mumu!!!!

FreeStuffsNG:
Hmmm. Just like to shake table. I appreciate reading about the origin of the foreign names in Warri but don't want this kind of stuff on slavery that do not bind us shared in this manner in our history books now that history is back in the school curriculum.
More studies are required because we are in the era of history revisionism especially from that same axis of Nigeria he mentioned.

ThickSharon123:


Anambra were never colonies to Bini kingdom, stop contradicting yourself. What is called Colonialism? Okay, they were colonials and couldn't even influence their language or lifestyle.

Why didn't Anambra people become subjugated and called themselves Bini.

Anambra influenced Bini just the same way Bini influenced them. And come to think of it, do you think of the Oba would be satisfied with just that kingdom, he'll be looking forward to expand even the whole of Africa if he had the power.

So your judgement is not true :-

tobstarizhia:
I think these clown are trying to test the patience of the Igbo man. They are soon (most weren't born then) to forget that Edo was one of the territories taken by the Igbos in the Biafran war. If they are not careful such a thing could repeat itself in the foreseeable future, especially with the way the country is going. The Binis don't even make up a sizable percentage of the country's population. They are a minority.

Okoroawusa:

Thank you. When I came back to Nairaland after many years of sabbatical it was in the heat of IPOB hate of Rochas Okorocha. My fellow igbos called him Okoroawusa and I am an APC member and a die hard Buhari fan so I adopted it as a moniker. It represents all igbos who are not slaves of Nnamdi Kanu and all he represents as well as the promotion of the idea that we can only progress if we build walls across tribes.
I am sorry if you find it stereotypical.

distributeinc:
[s]Stupid IPOB Dundee, slave to Benin then, slave to fulani now By the ways of a slave you know them, so much inferiority complex [/s]

iSlayer:
I said it! I've always known this Ika people are slaves. No two ways about it! Let Ika people talk again from now going forward we will show them their receipt of slavery. Tweh!

Emilokoiyawon:


So you believe Reno's cock and bull story? I am not even IPOB but you are definitely a fool

distributeinc:

You didn't take nothing, immediately your dumb Biafran forces crossed into Ore, they were quickly pushed back, the same day, they never held Ore or any part of Edo, the federal government is in charge of security of the whole Nigeria, so they speedily did their job, Edo people too started lynching Ibos around, for the audacity their dumb brothers had to enter into Ore(a lot of Ibos were killed by locals, but of course the army intervened, to avert war among civilians)...These incidences happened within a day or two, Biafrans never occupied any territory in Edo, Ore is a town, on the highway...ask your father what happened and stop talking nonsense.

distributeinc:

Nairaland is now full of of kids, your father is an idiot for bringing up a dumb head like you. You know a fool and a slave by their low IQ. Dirty slave.

distributeinc:
[s]Nairaland is now full of of kids, your father is an idiot for bringing up a dumb head like you. You know a fool and a slave by their low IQ. Dirty slave.[/s]

Newton85:
Oga, there are Black Americans who believe that they're indigenous to America. They also believe that the slave trade never happened. The so-called "indigenous black skins Native Americans" you're talking about may have darker skin compared to other Native Americans, but their physical features already show they aren't Black. Moreover, there was a lot of intermarriage between enslaved Africans and Native Americans. Black people are not indigenous to America.

Walkee:
you are incoherent. Are you 14 or something? Lagos was also our colony, do they speak our language there? What of Ondo and Ado-ekiti?

ThickSharon123:


Let me guess, Lagos was your colony in history books, be logical yourself and see and make analysis with your eye, and find the truth for yourself.

Do not rely on another person's truth or discobery. If Lagos was so-called your colony, why don't they hold at least a festival in honour of your Oba or Ogiso.
Lagos was only a port of trade for the Bini, and Bini didn't influence any where, if it did the Oba would have taken the whole of the west as you claim.

Stop trying to fight for a presence, when you have none. The power your Oba holds is for the Ika, Urhobo, Itshekiri, etc, but none of the West or even the east, not even the South, like Akwa Ibom or Cross-River knew he ever existed until Nigeria came together.

Walkee:
you sound like a little girl. Around 16 years or so. Is there any human in Nigeria who doesn't know Edos created Lagos? Most places in Lagos have Edo names. Lekki Idumota etc are Esan names.

Walkee:
you are incoherent. Are you 14 or something? Lagos was also our colony, do they speak our language there? What of Ondo and Ado-ekiti?

Walkee:
you sound like a little girl. Around 16 years or so. Is there any human in Nigeria who doesn't know Edos created Lagos? Most places in Lagos have Edo names. Lekki Idumota etc are Esan names.

dontalklife:
This Nigga must be high on cheap weed to have averred that the Binis had Igbo slave. His knowledge of history is zero in this regard. The Igbo-Bini relationship can be traced back to Ezechima the great herbalist from Arochukwu whose great healing service was sought by Oba of Bini many numerous years ago. Ezechima became so powerful that after the death of the Oba, many Binis fought for the descendants of Ezechima to ascend the Bini throne and this led to crisis that required the descendants of Ezechima tracing back their ancestral home but before then, most of them had married Bini woman hence the cultural similarities.
Reno should stop spreading falsehood.

ThickSharon123:


Okay, okay, okay.... but was the Oba so humble that he didn't conquer the whole of that land and its resources, that's the question now, and why he didn't?

Why would he conquer only Swamp Lagos at that time, there was no Lagos as we have it now.

Places like Abeokuta, Oyo, Ile-Ife and the rest where there, with resources, but Oba only had Swamp Lagos. Why?