Commentor:


You are dancing round the matter you suggested.

By the way, what is minimum wage at our agencies for graduates?


Oh by the way, I thought the Lord was blessing beyond the ordinary?

And you think the average pastor makes only his salary as income?

Ever heard of love offerings, pastor's offering, pastor's appreciation day?

They make much more than their salary but work only 3 full days a week

State govts have said they can't even pay minimum wage

Entitlement mentality.. Were you forced to be a Pastor? Why can't you resign and do some other things with your lives?

Someone is accommodating you, giving you 6k as pension... Salary is 100 percent sure.. Yet you are making noise because you are sacked.

As a Pastor, your job is to be a blessing to your congregation, and they would inturn bless you materially. It's obvious these Pastors have not been called by God...

Time would Tell..

generationz:
Salary Above minimum wage paid on time and free rent what do these people want again? You carried yourself there said God called you, now greed wants to kill you.
Everyone knows the average pastor who starts from scratch may not even see 50k per month to fend for his family for many years and some have to quit because of extreme poverty and spiritual battles. Elisha as powerful as he was lived in extreme poverty for all his life his boys went to pick wild mushrooms and nearly died from eating it because they were in extreme poverty.

You already have an established name, church building provided by the church, free accommodation, and you don't work everyday like the average worker in Nigeria. So much greed.

The winners pastor in my street equipped himself spiritually, started organizing personal fellowships in his house once a week and praying for people who were dashing him good money. In time, he left winners and started his own church.

Carry your stupid entitlement mentality to start your own church in Nigeria and see how it goes for you. Nonsense.

I absolutely agree with all you wrote, scroll via my username and see the same response you wrote, l said the same thing about another pastor friend of mine doing exploit, not depending on any salary and he is doing very well

Omoluabi1stborn:


Nah his wish nah.

Vigil is optional
Bible study and prayer meetings are compulsory including Sunday

Making 3 days

Weddings is not everytime, its occasional, likewise naming ceremony.

Abeq, they ain't working
In a week, they're not working up to 18hrs if added together.

Preparing for the day is not work?

Counselling and miracle time aren't work?

dangoteinlaw:
they have only 4 sundays to preach, their Monday to fridays is spent doing what??


Wait why is no one even talking about the fact that church is now a business, we are now discussing church employment like some limited companies. Wow, and the ppl that produce the money are brainwashed to believe that their money is going straight to heaven!

Monday to Saturday Chop 5.30am to 6.30am you're expected to be there to oversee (if you're in Lagos you connect to the hq if out of Lagos you're in charge)

After that clerical works at the office (for those in lagos), send this report or prep that statement.

Repeat Chop and head to caananland, where you'd most likely spend all your day.

Wednesday repeat Chop. Do your clerical job and then prepare for mid week services. (In Lagos connect to hq, outside you're in charge)

Thursday repeat Chop. Do your clerical jobs, people want this prayer or requests etc.

Friday repeat Chop and head to caananland to collect allocation money.

Saturday repeat Chop and start preparing and strategizing on how to get your province to bring the highest number of buses with members to the hq, where you're most likely spending the most of your day at.

Sunday (In Lagos all head to the hq as not service holds in lagos) outside Lagos you prepare for your service/sermon.

This is a basic schedule, if the church is a special time eg Wofbi or some other season, this becomes added to the above stated.

Yankee101:


And you think the average pastor makes only his salary as income?

Ever heard of love offerings, pastor's offering, pastor's appreciation day?

They make much more than their salary but work only 3 full days a week

State govts have said they can't even pay minimum wage

Love offering in Ajangbadi is how much?

Let's apply wisdom..

As at December 2020 oyedepo had employed 10,200 pastors on Nigeria alone, not counting his branches in other African countries and other continents..
https://www.nairaland.com/6243321/winners-chapel-employs-10200-pastors
He recently employed more pastors for church growth (establishment of more branches).
Calculate what that amounts to even if we agree that the gross salary is N53,000 as alleged.. of course senior pastors will earn more... And he doesn't owe !
Remember that accommodation (rent) is already taken care of and is no longer part of the expenses to be borne by the pastor from the N38,000 net. The pastor's rent may likely be subsidised by the church as the N9,000 rent allowance for the pastor may not be enough..
The church may also have a welfare package that the aggrieved pastors have not disclosed..
Lastly do not judge until your hear the church's official response. There is something known as right to fair hearing

Modified: the 10,200 pastors were even the ones newly employed in 2020 meaning that he has far more pastors in his employment

faiths is the greatest dilemma to the black heritage?Move!

ChiefSosa:
#38,000 in a month! Yet, they'll still pay tithes, offerings, etc How much money will then be left for them to take care of themselves and families? I never knew pastors were meant to collect salaries, I thought they were doing the Lord's work? Will Oyedepo be happy or quiet if he was getting #38K per month??
Or is Oyedepo a_PIMP?

Pentecostal church are one man church, so I guess there own way are different
been a pastor is a calling so imaging you got sacked from your calling
if they gave them employment letter and salary scheduled, by law they can terminate their contracts.
but its suppose they moves them away to another church

Commentor:


Preparing for the day is not work?

Counselling and miracle time aren't work?

Which miracle?
No dey someone's hand

OneKinGuy:

See them, religion dummies

You are confused....are you going to church because of the pastor or because of the almighty God....?

Don't even go church anymore because no pastor in the surface of this earth is perfect....so, go to the okija or sangi shrine that the priest is perfect...

Commentor:


Love offering in Ajangbadi is how much?

Oh, so you acknowledge now that there are other sources of income?

So how much is a love offering in an abuja satellite church?

Your arguments defeat your own premise. You've acknowledged every single pastor makes more than the posted salary

freshalien:


There won’t be a judgement day. Lies told by those who brought religion to your ancestors to make them conform and strictly adhere to the doctrines of Christianity.

Oga why you con dey shalaye give me I ask you for your opinion...

Glink2018:


You are confused....are you going to church because of the pastor or because of the almighty God....?

Don't even go church anymore because no pastor in the surface of this earth is perfect....so, go to the okija or sangi shrine that the priest is perfect...

So god only exist in the church

Funny enough, god presence might be even stronger in the Okija shrine

AngelicBeing:
I absolutely agree with all you wrote, scroll via my username and see the same response you wrote, l said the same thing about another pastor friend of mine doing exploit, not depending on any salary and he is doing very well

My dear, I'm just tired o. Anybody who has been opportuned to be a part of a small growing church will know how these pastors suffer in Penury to even stay alive. Building the church is from their pocket. Even buying fuel for generator is from their pocket. Then people will still come and meet them for free food and money.

You will nearly weep for them and their poverty ridden kids. But no be you call them.

These pastor are freaking greedy. They should start their own church and see if spiritual battles alone won't send them scamping for safety.

ChiefSosa:
#38,000 in a month! Yet, they'll still pay tithes, offerings, etc How much money will then be left for them to take care of themselves and families? I never knew pastors were meant to collect salaries, I thought they were doing the Lord's work? Will Oyedepo be happy or quiet if he was getting #38K per month??
Or is Oyedepo a_PIMP?

Oyedepo has never received salary in his life. In those early days when pay was like N20 salary a month or so. If they give him, he puts it into the offering box immediately. Till he directed accounts to be putting it straight without even giving him again. Now, people bless him with millions, free gift! NOT TITHE OR OFFERING. Just dash. For the roof of the church, it was one single man’s dash to the bishop. The man did not even know the church needed to roof. He read a book bishop wrote and his finances changed miraculously. So he came to appreciate d man of God! The pastors knew the pay package b4 they entered? They were not forced? Ok. I don’t think the complain is valid. The only tin I see, is that those accounting ministers that kept back monies meant for pension and housing belonging to fresh pastors in their personal accounts shud be dismissed. It’s FRAUD. The bishop does not know abt it.

Kobojunkie:
Wow! So they have no right to complain about what they perceive as being unfair?

Is the one who hired the true Mog not running after money then?

That is where perseverance comes from you has a Christian, these ones don't bear fruits at all. If God calls a man truly he'll provide for their needs, even if theyre paid well those who will complain will complain.

generationz:



I agree he is evil and wicked and the cause of all the misfortune in your family.

The madness in ur family don follow u come nairaland

jimmyolasun:
I don't know what to say, but all I know be say on judgement day, make Dem help Jesus get plenty koboko and enough glucose because naa from heaven gate he go start beating like he do for inside temple...

if na Jesus go beat,watin God may create Jesus go con do!

Profayo:
That's more than the minimum wage paid by the Government. And the Government is surely richer than Oyedepo.And he also doesn't owe salaries
But nonentities who are supporting various state governments owing salaries will still come and bash Oyedepo.

Yeah but minimum wage for level 8 graduates is way more than oyedepo is paying his grad pastors.

faceland:


Hope you know that it is cleaners and messagers that earns minimum wage? These are pastors (leaders).

exactly what am saying

Komu1048:



I don’t know what many want to achieve with this.

How will sowore sell his toilet paper news.

BarrElChapo:


Monday to Saturday Chop 5.30am to 6.30am you're expected to be there to oversee (if you're in Lagos you connect to the hq if out of Lagos you're in charge)

After that clerical works at the office (for those in lagos), send this report or prep that statement.

Repeat Chop and head to caananland, where you'd most likely spend all your day.

Wednesday repeat Chop. Do your clerical job and then prepare for mid week services. (In Lagos connect to hq, outside you're in charge)

Thursday repeat Chop. Do your clerical jobs, people want this prayer or requests etc.

Friday repeat Chop and head to caananland to collect allocation money.

Saturday repeat Chop and start preparing and strategizing on how to get your province to bring the highest number of buses with members to the hq, where you're most likely spending the most of your day at.

Sunday (In Lagos all head to the hq as not service holds in lagos) outside Lagos you prepare for your service/sermon.

This is a basic schedule, if the church is a special time eg Wofbi or some other season, this becomes added to the above stated.

can we now agree that church is a business ?

Kobojunkie:
Part-time employment no be employment again?

That's why they're getting paid 30k....how many people are you paying on part time 30k

Krismas:
Oyedepo has never received salary in his life. In those early days when pay was like N20 salary a month or so. If they give him, he puts it into the offering box immediately. Till he directed accounts to be putting it straight without even giving him again. Now, people bless him with millions, free gift! NOT TITHE OR OFFERING. Just dash. For the roof of the church, it was one single man’s dash to the bishop. The man did not even know the church needed to roof. He read a book bishop wrote and his finances changed miraculously. So he came to appreciate d man of God! The pastors knew the pay package b4 they entered? They were not forced? Ok. I don’t think the complain is valid. The only tin I see, is that those accounting ministers that kept back monies meant for pension and housing belonging to fresh pastors in their personal accounts shud be dismissed. It’s FRAUD. The bishop does not know abt it.

na pple help him buy 4 private jet and private Universities.....if all the pple that read his book finances Change, while do we still have poor people abi all of us no go buy the book.... biggest scam of the highest order!

karnap:

Pentecostal church are one man church, so I guess there own way are different
been a pastor is a calling so imaging you got sacked from your calling
if they gave them employment letter and salary scheduled, by law they can terminate their contracts.
but its suppose they moves them away to another church

The calling of pastor, shud not be confused with church employment. They are still pastors. If they were really called. If church employ an accountant and later sack the accountant, that does not mean the accountant is nolonger an accountant.

uthlaw:
if na Jesus go beat,watin God may create Jesus go con do!

"Jesus pls I beg you in God's name"

God:

dangoteinlaw:
can we now agree that church is a business ?

Some are a business others are for true worship but like every other endeavour it should be organised.

Missyajoke:

That is where perseverance comes from you has a Christian, these ones don't bear fruits at all. If God calls a man truly he'll provide for their needs, even if theyre paid well those who will complain will complain.

According to the teachings of Jesus Christ, everyone who believes, be he sinner, a false prophet, or none, is likened to a tree that bears fruits. Each tree bears fruit - no fruitless tree!. And the fruits they bear are either good or bad depending on whether they obey Him or not. That is why Jesus Christ boldly declared that by their fruits you shall know those who belong to Him from those who don't belong to Him.

Those who belong on the vine that is Jesus Christ, however are branches and not trees. And according to Jesus Christ, those who remain in Him as the branches remain on the vine will produce fruits - only the Father can cut a dead branch off the vine. - John 15 vs 1 - 11.
....

Your pastor's accusation of fruitlessness are "fruitless" stems from the fact that he has no true understanding of the teaching from which he quoted from, even though Jesus Christ made Himself quite clear. Jesus Christ cursed the fig tree because it had no fruit for Him to eat at the time he was hungry. And the lesson Jesus Christ taught was that of faith not of fruitlessness as claimed by what I read.

You guys should understand that winners chapel is everywhere and the church cannot pay fat salary. In my LGA alone, there are up to 15 branches, and most villagers pay N10 as offering. N10 or N100 every Sunday cannot pay fat salary.
Their pastors make extra cash from other things like naming ceremonies, pastors gifts etc.
When bashing, also remember that the church does maintenance and other things.
LFC is trying IMO. Atleast they are paying above minimum wage some states say they cannot pay.
It was my favorite church then before I stopped going to church. Church na headache biko

jimmyolasun:

"Jesus pls I beg you in God's name"
God:

shey na dat white man b Ena Jesus.....oyinbo really scam black oooo!

BSsniffer:
That's why they're getting paid 30k....how many people are you paying on part time 30k

How many part time workers get offered pension and living expenses?