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Betscoreodds:
because you are not a Christian that why you said that

movicy:
You're dumb... so, Jews dey beat your own god ? Which kain god is that wey come earth come ridicule himself b4 men (mortal) ?

movicy:
This is what religion people will always say, why do I need to be a Christian b4 I can know what lie is and what a truth is ?

#Christianity is False is this is what you believe in, that same God that rescued Moses from heaven will not come down to earth to be ridiculed by the Jews..

movicy:
This is what religion people will always say, why do I need to be a Christian b4 I can know what lie is and what a truth is ?

#Christianity is False is this is what you believe in, that same God that rescued Moses from heaven will not come down to earth to be ridiculed by the Jews..

movicy:
Lol.... that Bishop no get sense at all..

How can you say Mary (ordinary human) birthed God that created heaven and earth .... sense is far from that guy...

Betscoreodds:
he wanted to save men from their sin that is why he had to die on the cross

22jumpstreet:
He has already given us a solution to the problem of sin in 2nd chronicles 7:14..

When did he say he was going to sacrifice himself to himself?

22jumpstreet:
He has already given us a solution to the problem of sin in 2nd chronicles 7:14..

When did he say he was going to sacrifice himself to himself?

Betscoreodds:
. Jesus appear in Daniel chapter same way in revelation

The one like a son of man (Daniel 7.13–14)

.14During this vision in the night, I saw what looked like a human being. He was approaching me, surrounded by clouds, and he went to the one who had been living for ever and was presented to him.

Compared with revelation
14: Rev 11.15He was given authority, honour, and royal power, so that the people of all nations, races, and languages would serve him. His authority would last for ever, and his kingdom would never end.



Here son of God is spoken of

The one like a son of God (Daniel 3.25)

25“Then why do I see four men walking about in the fire?” he asked. “They are not tied up, and they show no sign of being hurt — and the fourth one looks like an angel.”3.25 an angel; or a son of the gods; or a son of God.

I will show you more soon

Betscoreodds:
I told you he sacrifice his life to save us from Satan death

22jumpstreet:
Common...think about what you wrote for a moment..

Betscoreodds:
He shall lay his hand on the head of the burnt offering, and it shall be accepted for him to make atonement for him. Then he shall kill the bull before the Lord, and Aaron’s sons the priests shall bring the blood and throw the blood against the sides of the altar that is at the entrance of the tent of meeting. (Lev. 1:4–5)


The priest shall dip his finger in the blood and sprinkle part of the blood seven times before the Lord in front of the veil of the sanctuary. And the priest shall put some of the blood on the horns of the altar of fragrant incense before the Lord that is in the tent of meeting, and all the rest of the blood of the bull he shall pour out at the base of the altar of burnt offering that is at the entrance of the tent of meeting. (Lev. 4:6–7)

By using the blood of the animal in this way, God was demonstrating in dramatic fashion that it was the blood that atoned for Israel’s sin. The blood cleansed the tabernacle, the priests, the people, and the land from the defilement caused by the sin of the people. There was blood on the veil, blood on the horns of the altar, and blood poured out. Everywhere the sinner looked was an unavoidable statement about the pervasive nature of sin and need for atonement.

22jumpstreet:
You do understand that this is a dream. I want conversations like God and Moses....

22jumpstreet:
Animal sacrifice..a she goat less than a year old without blemish..NEVER A HUMAN BEING OR A DEMI GOD.

Betscoreodds:
I told you he sacrifice his life to save us from Satan death

Betscoreodds:
yes the animal sacrifice was not removing sin permanently that why they do it each year Jesus was the lamb that took away sin permanently

movicy:
And y satan never die since if Jesus truly died on the cross

Why do men still remain immortal up till date ? Even his disciples all died.

I was born in the 90s but you keep telling me Jesus had died for the sin I am yet to commited??

22jumpstreet:
Who told you that..? Was it not God who gave the order.
You are just very funny.

When did you become God's chief adviser

movicy:
And y satan never die since if Jesus truly died on the cross

Why do men still remain immortal up till date ? Even his disciples all died.

I was born in the 90s but you keep telling me Jesus had died for the sin I am yet to commited??

Bishopkingsley:
Could the atonement for sin have been done another way? This question was asked in 2014, and the answer is NO! Jesus had to go to the cross and He had to die in exactly the way that it happened. But why? Because it was God’s plan? Well, the answer to that question is a definite yes. If God ordains something, it is guaranteed to come to pass. But there’s much more to the answer.
Now we have the question, Why did it need to be a blood atonement? There’s a very simple reason, and it’s God’s Word that provides it.
Blood…from the Garden to the Cross
Let’s go back to the beginning when Adam and Eve sinned. The fall of man was a result of their disobedience to God, when God commanded that they were not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. (Genesis 2:17)
Adam and Eve’s disobedience was sin against God and it broke their union and communion with God. They died spiritually and they began to die physically (Read Is there an error in Genesis 2:17 because Adam & Eve did not physically die?). The Bible tells us that Adam and Eve’s eyes were opened and they saw that they were naked. In an attempt to cover their sin (evidenced by awareness of their unclothedness) they sewed together fig leaves (Genesis 3:7). Of course, their works were not sufficient to cover their sin. Therefore, God in His mercy covered them with animal skins (Genesis 3:21). Animal skins! Don’t read past that too quickly. God’s covering them with animal skins was the first evidence of the necessity of blood to cover sin. And it is the beginning of understanding why Jesus had to die on the cross, in the way that the Gospels record.
God’s covering of Adam and Eve
1) An animal needed to be killed. Prior to this time there was no death in God’s perfectly created world. Death entered the world when Adam and Eve sinned, and because of their sin the first animal died. The Bible clearly states, in later revelation, that the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23).
2) Adam and Eve were incapable of atoning for their sin by their works or power. While it was the sin of Adam and Eve that introduced death into God’s perfect creation, it was God who killed the animal to provide the covering for their sin. This shows God’s judgment of sin (death is the penalty). And it shows God’s mercy and grace. He gave a substitionary atonement. The life of an innocent animal paid for the sins of guilty Adam and Eve. God did for Adam and Eve what they could not do for themselves. Only the Giver of Physical Life has the right to take life. And only the Giver of Spiritual Relationship can repair a broken relationship. God killed the animal so the sin of Adam and Eve would be paid for and their relationship with Him would be repaired. This pointed to a future day when Another would come and die for the sins of mankind opening the way to eternal life and restored relationship with God.
3) Blood is required. Genesis 3:21 tells us that God clothed Adam and Eve with “coats of skins. ” Therefore the first death in our world was an animal’s blood to pay for man’s sins. This pointed to a time when God would provide Himself, in the Person of the Lord Jesus Christ, as the sacrificial Lamb. Innocent blood would pay for the guilt and stain of sin. All who repent and trust in Jesus receive His forgiveness of sins and are clothed in His “coat” (His robe of righteousness), in much the same way that God clothed Adam and Eve in the “coats of skins.”

22jumpstreet:
TL/DR
Can you just summarize your point with a quotation from one prophet that said God was going to send his son as a sin sacrifice....and that man should believe and give their lives to his son. That man don't have to keep his laws..

That's all I want.

MaxInDHouse:
Why did you run away from me nah?

Come and ask questions from me about the authenticity of God's only begotten Son and see for yourself how i will consistently quote from the Hebrew-Aramaic Scripture (Old Testament) to prove that Jesus is real!

I won't even quote a single word from the Christian Greek Scriptures (New Testament) for you, let's see how you will deny the scriptures you yourself claim you believe!

OLÓDO!

22jumpstreet:
You are dragging me backwards...so I did the needful..cut you loose..

MaxInDHouse:
Write your PERSONAL thought and your type will flow in to argue with you. But whenever you see JWs respect true Christians because we will make you see that without Jesus you're a complete LOOSER!

22jumpstreet:
TL/DR
Can you just summarize your point with a quotation from one prophet that said God was going to send his son as a sin sacrifice....and that man should believe and give their lives to his son. That man don't have to keep his laws..

That's all I want.

Bishopkingsley:
Bible said Jesus was that lamb that God killed to cover Adam and eve unclothedness.

Hebrews 10
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that

22jumpstreet:
Whose idea is this ?

When did God plan this.

Which prophet did he tell about it?

Amos 3:7 says " God does nothing without first revealing it to his servant the prophet"..

Which prophet did God reveal this to before it happened.


And when the chief priest questioned Jesus, why did he not tell them that God sent him as a human sacrifice so they can do it properly cut his neck. The Roman soldiers are not the people God commanded to carry out the sacrifice..

So You see my friend, so many things are wrong with Christianity.. it is all paganism that was rebranded by the romans..

Bishopkingsley:
Psalm 40
6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.

7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,

8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.


If Jesus told them then they will not kill Jesus and the plan of God will not work then we will not be saved

Jesus was a lamb he is not to argue about taking our sin

Bishopkingsley:
Psalm 40
6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.

7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,

8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.


If Jesus told them then they will not kill Jesus and the plan of God will not work then we will not be saved

Jesus was a lamb he is not to argue about taking our sin