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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 4:34pm On Jul 28, 2021
IKON360:

The same Modric that Fede Valverde has been outshining for the past two seasons?
Modric in his prime wasn't better than Gerrard or Scholes

While Modric dragged less fancied Croatia to WC final by winning Golden Ball, Gerrard was busy making sure England were beaten at Euro 2004 by giving a back pass to Thierry Henry of France.

Modric at age 22 ensured that England with peak Lampard and peak Gerrard didn't qualify for Euro 2008. He helped Croatia beat England at Wembley.

How can NT flops be placed alongside gods like Xavi, Iniesta, Zidane, Pirlo, Kross, Modric

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by pu7pl3(m): 4:40pm On Jul 28, 2021
GrammarNazi1:

Maybe we should say Ronaldinho too is a god. Yet, Ronaldinho won Ballon'dOr like Modric.

Ronaldinho wasn't a god bro...he was a mere mortal compared to Ronaldo and Messi

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by pu7pl3(m): 4:41pm On Jul 28, 2021
FirstbornWds:


Dribble success rate or end result?

This is what I mean

Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 5:06pm On Jul 28, 2021
GrammarNazi1:

They were over hyped. They are below Xavi and Iniesta.
Brother, being below Xavi and Iniesta isn't a bad thing. I love Pirlo, Busquets, Zidane, Guti, Ozil and some other excellent midfielders even De Bryune. But except Zidane, the rest of them are all below Xavi and Iniesta.
Xavi and Iniesta are basically the walking peaks of midfield brilliance since I started watching ball.
For Gerrard, Scholes and Lampard to be below them isn't a bad thing it also doesn't mean that they are overhyped. It just means that while being phenomenal for their teams, they aren't as good individually as Xavi and Iniesta

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 5:08pm On Jul 28, 2021
GrammarNazi1:

He knows exactly your point but I, too, disagree with you.

It is not always about trophies, yet it is about your contribution to trophy wins.

Xavi and Iniesta contributed hugely to lots of club and international trophies. How then is it not about trophies and how the players contributed to them?

Kindly mention the lots of trophies that Scholes, Gerrard, and Lampard contributed hugely to.
Scholes and Lampard contributed to lots of trophies for Man utd and Chelsea respectively. Gerrard not so much but he was phenomenal nonetheless.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 5:16pm On Jul 28, 2021
Debroslink:


While Modric dragged less fancied Croatia to WC final by winning Golden Ball, Gerrard was busy making sure England were beaten at Euro 2004 by giving a back pass to Thierry Henry of France.

Modric at age 22 ensured that England with peak Lampard and peak Gerrard didn't qualify for Euro 2008. He helped Croatia beat England at Wembley.

How can NT flops be placed alongside gods like Xavi, Iniesta, Zidane, Pirlo, Kross, Modric
You won't use only the national team as basis to compare these players na, Modric has never won an international trophy and will most likely never do so. Gerrard was basically wallowing in a pool of badluck with Liverpool because for a lot of his career was freaking phenomenal for Liverpool, as an 8, as a 10 and as Deep lying playmaker, just for you to get his versatility. And he was brilliant playing all these roles. So I don't get how you want to use only national team triumphs to criticize a phenomenal player
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 6:27pm On Jul 28, 2021
pu7pl3:


Ronaldinho wasn't a god bro...he was a mere mortal compared to Ronaldo and Messi
This is exactly my point too.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 6:30pm On Jul 28, 2021
IKON360:

You won't use only the national team as basis to compare these players na, Modric has never won an international trophy and will most likely never do so. Gerrard was basically wallowing in a pool of badluck with Liverpool because for a lot of his career was freaking phenomenal for Liverpool, as an 8, as a 10 and as Deep lying playmaker, just for you to get his versatility. And he was brilliant playing all these roles. So I don't get how you want to use only national team triumphs to criticize a phenomenal player

Gerrard was actually the badluck and the weak point. He contributed massively to England's loss at euro 2004.
When Liverpool was at the brink of league title, he made sure that that didn't happen by slipping in front of Demba Ba.
Who can forget his header and pass to Uruguay's Suarez at the WC? A world class blunder!

Just under 5 years of leaving Liverpool, they won the EPL and UCL.

Watch this video below if you have forgotten.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVPypAiIXLI

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by pu7pl3(m): 6:40pm On Jul 28, 2021
Debroslink:


Gerrard was actually the badluck and the weak point. He contributed massively to England's loss at euro 2004. When Liverpool was at the brink of league title, he made sure that that didn't happen by slipping in front of Demba Ba.

Just under 5 years of leaving Liverpool, they won the EPL and UCL.

Now that's the definition of badluck grin grin

Omo Modric is clear please
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 6:43pm On Jul 28, 2021
B4 you come up with that bs of Gerrard didnt play with world class players, Mordic made them euro team of the tournament with Croatia in 2008.

TF was Gerrard doing?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by myami: 6:58pm On Jul 28, 2021
Debroslink:


Gerrard was actually the badluck and the weak point. He contributed massively to England's loss at euro 2004.
When Liverpool was at the brink of league title, he made sure that that didn't happen by slipping in front of Demba Ba.
Who can forget his header and pass to Uruguay's Suarez at the WC? A world class blunder!

Just under 5 years of leaving Liverpool, they won the EPL and UCL.

Watch this video below if you have forgotten.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVPypAiIXLI
Gerrard captained his team to CL Glory in 2005
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by myami: 7:08pm On Jul 28, 2021
Debroslink:


While Modric dragged less fancied Croatia to WC final by winning Golden Ball, Gerrard was busy making sure England were beaten at Euro 2004 by giving a back pass to Thierry Henry of France.

Modric at age 22 ensured that England with peak Lampard and peak Gerrard didn't qualify for Euro 2008. He helped Croatia beat England at Wembley.

How can NT flops be placed alongside gods like Xavi, Iniesta, Zidane, Pirlo, Kross, Modric
modric was a fringe player in 2007. Kranjcar and co stopped england
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 7:13pm On Jul 28, 2021
myami:
modric was a fringe player in 2007. Kranjcar and co stopped england

Oga Modric played the whole 90 minutes. How is that a fringe player?

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by pu7pl3(m): 7:19pm On Jul 28, 2021
myami:
modric was a fringe player in 2007. Kranjcar and co stopped england

Lmaooo, this one no even watch the match grin grin grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by myami: 7:24pm On Jul 28, 2021
pu7pl3:


Ronaldinho wasn't a god bro...he was a mere mortal compared to Ronaldo and Messi
Ronaldinho was a god on his own right. Ronaldo, Messi dominated football at a time when there was not much competition in the game. Scoring goals aplenty with reckless abandon. Gaucho on the other hand played among the best of the best in order to be the best among his peers.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by pu7pl3(m): 8:03pm On Jul 28, 2021
myami:
Ronaldinho was a god on his own right. Ronaldo, Messi dominated football at a time when there was not much competition in the game. Scoring goals aplenty with reckless abandon. Gaucho on the other hand played among the best of the best in order to be the best among his peers.

This is a myth, if Ronaldinho and the rest were in their prime at the same time with Ronaldo and Messi they wouldn't still smell the Balon d'Or, this gap would have still existed

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 8:11pm On Jul 28, 2021
myami:
Ronaldinho was a god on his own right. Ronaldo, Messi dominated football at a time when there was not much competition in the game. Scoring goals aplenty with reckless abandon. Gaucho on the other hand played among the best of the best in order to be the best among his peers.

Even if these ones played now, they still would catch up Messi, Ronaldo greatness... Which of them them was even half as continent as CR7 and LM10?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 9:10pm On Jul 28, 2021
pu7pl3:


This is a myth, if Ronaldinho and the rest were in their prime at the same time with Ronaldo and Messi they wouldn't still smell the Balon d'Or, this gap would have still existed
Thank you for this.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 9:11pm On Jul 28, 2021
Debroslink:


Gerrard was actually the badluck and the weak point. He contributed massively to England's loss at euro 2004.
When Liverpool was at the brink of league title, he made sure that that didn't happen by slipping in front of Demba Ba.
Who can forget his header and pass to Uruguay's Suarez at the WC? A world class blunder!

Just under 5 years of leaving Liverpool, they won the EPL and UCL.

Watch this video below if you have forgotten.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVPypAiIXLI

grin grin grin
I think, you don't just like Gerrard. That's it, you don't like him at all.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 9:11pm On Jul 28, 2021
myami:
Ronaldinho was a god on his own right. Ronaldo, Messi dominated football at a time when there was not much competition in the game. Scoring goals aplenty with reckless abandon. Gaucho on the other hand played among the best of the best in order to be the best among his peers.
I can only laugh.

Lol.

Why then don't Neymar, Giroud, Morata, Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Rashford, Martial, Tammy Abraham, Diego Costa, Lukaku, Gabriel Jesus, Aguero etc score in the manner Ronaldo and Messi do?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by patrickmuf(m): 10:47pm On Jul 28, 2021
IKON360:


grin grin grin
I think, you don't just like Gerrard. That's it, you don't like him at all.
When someone lets his hate for a player get the better for him in an argument, you just let him be...

He isn't any different from Devvy (when he is hell bent on discrediting Messi) at the moment...
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by TLona1: 10:53pm On Jul 28, 2021
patrickmuf:
When someone lets his hate for a player get the better for him in an argument, you just let him be...

He isn't any different from Devvy (when he is hell bent on discrediting Messi) at the moment...

Chill bro, so according you to you it makes sense to put Gerrard in the calibre of Iniesta, Xavi and Pirlo.

Is this what you're trying to say?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by patrickmuf(m): 10:58pm On Jul 28, 2021
TLona1:


Chill bro, so according you to you it makes sense to put Gerrard in the calibre of Iniesta, Xavi and Pirlo.

Is this what you're trying to say?
I didn't say that, what I said is that it is wrong to say they were overrated...

It's like Messi and CR7, even though I think Messi is better, I'd be stretching it to say Ronaldo is overrated...

Also, whilst KDB has not won any international trophy, you cannot say he isn't amongst the best ATM...
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 6:20am On Jul 29, 2021
pu7pl3:


This is a myth, if Ronaldinho and the rest were in their prime at the same time with Ronaldo and Messi they wouldn't still smell the Balon d'Or, this gap would have still existed
Well said...


But never say "ronaldo and messi"
It is "messi and ronaldo"

Consider this a stern warning!

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