ThierryJay:


Yes o, if both are in form and I'm without loyalty bias, I'll pick Gerard over Xavi for that single crucial match cos he will deliver more than Xavi in that match. Over the entire season however, I'll pick Xavi more cos he's more consistent and will support getting a trophy more.

Gotcha

That means you will be happy to watch Gerrard slip or gift the ball to opposing strikers cos that's his MO

You don't got nothing

Oldboss:

are you for real
Gerard is no where close in delivering in big games like Xavi

FirstbornWds:



I'll chop your head off

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ohma456:


Vidal, Zlatan, Dani Alves, Caseres, Edgar Davids, Zamborotta and Lilian Thuram.. That first pics na unknown gun man

ThierryJay:


Yes o, if both are in form and I'm without loyalty bias, I'll pick Gerard over Xavi for that single crucial match cos he will deliver more than Xavi in that match. Over the entire season however, I'll pick Xavi more cos he's more consistent and will support getting a trophy more.

Gotcha

Debroslink:


FA CUP win against Westham
Win against Olympiakos
Are you kidding me?

Win against a shambolic Madrid team whose galaticos were past their prime. A team which hadn't won La Liga for 4 years in a row. A team battered and brutalised by Henry's Arsenal a year before Gerrard. Is that what you are using to praise Gerrard? Are you kidding me?

But when Gerrard faced real teams like Chelsea, invincible Arsenal, Zidane's France, Suarez's Uruguay, he choked big time.

Modric over Gerrard anytime anyday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YVHGKJNrw8

FirstbornWds:



I'll chop your head off

pu7pl3:


That means you will be happy to watch Gerrard slip or gift the ball to opposing strikers cos that's his MO

You don't got nothing

Oldboss:

are you for real
Gerard is no where close in delivering in big games like Xavi

ThierryJay:


Circumstances bro. Being 3-1 down in a final, to then equalize with 2 spectacular strikes for your team, dying minute, that's the stuff of legends. No single performance by Modric reaches this level.

Lol, that Madrid team won the La liga twice in a row in 07 and 08, so they were strong.

That he didnt perform well enough against Chelsea and the likes is main reason I say he was inconsistent which is what gives Modric the advantage.

ThierryJay:


Let's get this straight, Xavi is better than Gerard and Xavi is more consistent in delivery. However, Gerard has an individual x-factor which at its best trumps Xavi's output although inconsistent. This is what I'm banking on when I made that choice.

Debroslink:


X-factor against almighty Westham . You mean the X-factor that made him give back passes to Henry o and numerous occasions.

Don't just even try to bring in Xavi into this discourse. Xavi has been winning league titles since he was 18. Long before Ronaldinho or Messi. Gerrard was slipping off before league title. Spot the difference.

pu7pl3:

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ThierryJay:


You are totally missing the point. I do not dispute that Modric is an overall greater player than Gerard and that is largely due to his consistency in quality just like Xavi.

My point is Gerard has better individual outputs than Modric has when both are on song. In fact he is renowned for this. [s]When you think of Istanbul, FA Cup 2007, Real Madrid 07, Olympiakos 04, you think of Gerard [/s]alone as the instigator, the magician, the driver in all these matches. Modric, like Xavi, on the other hand is more systemic. So when you talk of UCL final 16, Club world cup final and co, he is regarded more as a contributor in those victories rather than as the protagonist.

This attribute of Gerard is what I preferred over Modric. Gerard's drawback is that he isnt as consistent in delivering magic on a regular basis like Iniesta for club and country and that is why Modric ranks above him.

devvy44:


Where the rest of his Liverpool teammates boiling beans on the pitch?

Why didn’t you highlight his performance in City’s 2014 Ucl victory after Suarez, Sturidge & sterling did all the hard work?

ThierryJay:


Thanks for admitting that its individuality first before trophies. A GOAT is expected to have both so I agree with you on that.

Just a slight point of correction, Zidane played either the game against Senegal or the last game against Denmark in 02 WC, so the failure of France at that tourney was collective as Henry also missed the second and third games due to an early red card. Also, Zidane did not play in the 2003 confed cup in which Henry won golden ball.

To your initial argument, frankly I consider Gerard and Modric to be at similar level/in same class. Gerard produced more spirited spectacular individual displays while Modric is more technically gifted and consistent similar to Xavi. So using trophies won to separate them is in order and on that basis, I believe Modric edges Gerard out in greatness.

But if I have a choice in a single crucial match, I'll take a prime Gerard over prime Modric.

ThierryJay:


Sorry, party don finish, you can now go to bed.

Oldboss:

there is one thing to be learnt from Ronald Koeman’s
first season at Barcelona, it is his confidence in the youth.
Last season, the Dutchman not only bet on Pedri, Oscar
Mingueza, Ronald Araujo and Ilaix Moriba but also made
many of them starters by the end of the season.
The preseason is the perfect time to identify young assets
and decide whom to bet on for the first team. Mundo
Deportivo reports that Koeman has identified four players
to provide opportunities with the first team.
The first of the four is Yusuf Demir . The Austrian forward
was signed for the B team this summer but has
impressed the manager and staff in training.
In the opening two games, the 18-year-old has sizzled in
the front line. His cohesion with the team has been one
that very few players can boast of. The idea of stepping
him up to the first team may pay off tremendously.
The second player on the list is Alejandro Balde .
Barcelona have looked far and wide for a player to provide
Jordi Alba competition, and it seems the coach has found
the answer in the B team.
The 18-year-old has shown composure and flair in the
preseason so far. Moreover, he has been dynamite going
forward. With the vacancy in the first team still not filled,
Balde could well be in the first-team plans.
Gavi and Nico Gonzalez are the two midfielders who
complete the list. Koeman sees Nico Gonzalez as a direct
replacement for Sergio Busquets.
The 16-year-old Gavi lit up the field against both Nastic
and Girona. His initiative driving forward with the ball
especially is of great appeal to the manager.
Barcelona have a lot of stars in the making and identifying
the creme-de-la-creme is the first step. Barcelona could
hope to have four new match-winners come the end of the
season.

GrammarNazi1:

GrammarNazi1: