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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:48am On Aug 04, 2021 |
Lurker4Long: This is sad. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by RiceProducers: 10:51am On Aug 04, 2021 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by cutievik: 10:53am On Aug 04, 2021 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 12:01pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
Rwandan Ratels in Mozambique 5 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 1:09pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
Lurker4Long:I'm really impressed with how member countries are pulling their own weight. ECOWAS states should learn a thing or two 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by dragon2(m): 2:02pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
Odunayaw:However,the deployments are from both East and Southern Africa. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 2:14pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
dragon2:Hence I said 'member countries'. I was talking of the whole deployment |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 2:36pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
Odunayaw: What thing or two can ECOWAS nations really learn from this deployment, because I don't see it. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 3:37pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
RiceProducers: It's a very big risk buying from the us. They are expensive, will use spare parts as a way to bully or coerce countries to do what they want, they degrade weapons, put kills switches in the software,.... |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tutudesz: 4:09pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
Odunayaw:Are you forgetting ECOMOG 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 4:56pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
dragon2: Tanzania is both a member of SADC and the EAC. They're there as part of SADC. If you're referring to Rwanda, they're there separately, in terms of a bilateral agreement with Mozambique. There's a simple reason Mozambique didn't want SADC and had to be forced, and decided to invite Rwanda. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 5:37pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
kabe1:To pull their own weight. That's something you don't see in our subregion 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 5:38pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
tutudesz:Ecomog was Nigeria & to an extent Senegal carrying the weight of the rest of the neighborhood |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tutudesz: 5:48pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
Odunayaw:Ecowas states was involved |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 5:50pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
tutudesz:*Face palm* Reread what you quoted 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 5:53pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
Odunayaw: 4 different commands in 1 theatre of operations is going to be a problem down the line. SADC, Rwanda, Mozambique military, and Moz police paramilitary. Yes, Moz military and Moz police are rivals. As an example: 1) the insurgents assassinatated the National Director of Reconnaissance of the Police Rapid Intervention Unit and took the town of Quissanga; the Moz military used this to argue they should have operational control. 2) with responsibility now shifted to the military, they promptly brought in the Russian PMC, Wagner. An opaque decision, Wagner were brutally and comprehensively defeated by the insurgents, and the port city of Mocimboa da Praca fell to the insurgents. The paramilitary police used this to argue the military were out of their depth. 3) with the police RIU back in ops command, they brought in the SA/Zimbabwean PMC Dyck Advisory Group(DAG), who, unlike Wagner, at least had experience in working in Cabo Delgado. DAG had some success in pushing back the insurgency, but with the Moz military and police not collaborating but competing, they were on a hiding to nothing. The end result? The fall of the port city of Palma - the logistics hub of the gas industry concerns of French, Italian, South African, US, Chinese, UK, Portuguese commercial interests in that order. The fall of Palma was the proverbial straw, and SADC had had enough. The elite in Maputo could no longer prevaricate and claim to have the situation at hand. Faced with a SADC mission they did not want - SADC has demanded a political, social and economic solution which addresses the legitimate grievances of the people in Cabo Delgado province, the kleptocracy in Maputo thought they could stall through a quick military win by inviting Rwanda. Too many people in Pres Felipe Nyusi's circle are making too much money from smuggling out rubies, heroin from Pakistan through the ports in Cabo Delgado. The insurgents are doing exactly the same to finance their war. CC: @kikuyu1, @nemesis4you PIC: areas in gray represent insurgent control as at June 2021 5 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GabrielYulaw(m): 5:58pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
Lurker4Long: You sir are impressively informed. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 6:05pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
Lurker4Long:I think SADC would have done extremely well if they achieve 1/3 of their aims in Moz. Sooner or later, they'd have to do something about the commands when the bullets and blood start flowing. But like I said, its satisfy to see no country is slouching in its deployment 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nemesis4you: 6:36pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 6:55pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
Nemesis4you: Same can be said about the lake Chad Islands and the whole lake region in West Africa only that it will be difficult to take and hold the islands as the lake is an inland lake and it is very remote. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nemesis4you: 6:57pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nemesis4you: 7:02pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
Whyem15: AFAIK an island is relatively far easier to secure than a land base Several well protected islands can be linked up to sustain deployment This will cut free movement & economic exploitation of the resources by the terrorists 1st rule of fighting terrorists is to cut their finances, without money nothing happens / nothing can sustain for long 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tutudesz: 8:04pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
Odunayaw:Sorry misinterpreted your comment 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 10:11pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
kabe1: Was surprised reading that up there. Actually the reverse is the case. They have nothing on ECOWAS. Have they been impressive in deployment, I didn't expect any less at least they are professional military organizations, nothing extraordinary except this is the first of it's kind at this level by SADC something ECOWAS has had a lot of experience in doing for a long time. Much still remains to be seen. So far the Rwandans are the combat teeth paid for by the French. South Africa should be taking the lead role in combat not Rwanda, till then there's nothing spectacular here in the SADC deployment but just showing the flag. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:18pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
Odunayaw: This is not correct at all. What did West-African nations do in Gambia then? There was a naval, air and land blockade. Your comment is simply not correct. 8 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 10:19pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
tutudesz:Ecomog : Nigeria, Senegal Guinea Ghana. The Senegalese made their Bones during the Ecomog years. The Boys from Guinea fought and fought. Nigeria .... Enough said. Ghana was their too. Let’s not rewrite History. 5 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 10:26pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
GabrielYulaw:Unpopular Opinion. An overall SADC commander should be appointed He should be from South-Africa , despite Rwanda deploying first. Most of the Logistics that can shifted at a moment’s notice will come and continue to come from S.A. It should not take 4 voices to take Military decisions. One voice. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 10:27pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
tutudesz: In reality ECOWAS is possible because of Nigeria both in politics, diplomacy & military. Nigeria is a greater hegemon than South Africa which is why President Nyusi of Mozambique would dare call in Rwanda on a bilateral basis. That wouldn't happen in ECOWAS sub-region. However its still expected of South Africa to take the lead in combat something they've shown intent to do going by their deployment and funding because if those terrorists by nature start getting all sorts of help from ISIS that Rwandan deployment will begin to leave a sore taste in the mouth they simply don't have the resources. The whole deployment by both Rwanda and SADC is still lacking the full compliment of adequate air cover which ECOWAS through Nigeria would have sent in. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 10:29pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 10:32pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
kabe1: You bet by now NAF fighter jets would be over flying Cabo Delgado sending the fear of God into the hearts of terrorists of what's to come. 5 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 10:37pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
Covert1:calm down |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by tutudesz: 10:47pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
LTGEN:Misinterpreted his comment |
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