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Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Nobody: 12:03am On Aug 13, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: It's because it has to do with God I may not disregard your thinking on other things |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 12:10am On Aug 13, 2021 |
LordReed: Change of post! The issue is, I presented myself and my ability to create as evidence, unfortunately for you, you do not have the True Knowledge of determining whether I can be an evidence or not. So you are stuck with no valid place to go. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 8:05am On Aug 13, 2021 |
HellVictorinho: Admission of "Out of Pointless!" |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by LordReed(m): 9:05am On Aug 13, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: Nonsense. I know how to drive is not evidence my wife knows how to drive. An argument can can be put forth that I could have taught her but it is not evidence it is an argument. Professor of logic indeed. You have not presented evidence stop deceiving yourself. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 11:47am On Aug 13, 2021 |
LordReed: If you knew what evidence is, you would have known, and in Truth, you do know that "I know how to drive", Is Always Evidence And Proof Of Ability to Drive and a further evidence and proof of a drive which has already been executed by another person, in this case, your wife BECAUSE A CAR CANNOT DRIVE ITSELF AND SOMEBODY MUST DRIVE IT, IS THE ISSUE LordReed: Change of Post and Out of Issue. The issue is not "How did your wife know how to drive" But "Who took the car away?" Learn to stick to Topics and stop flying off points. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by LordReed(m): 12:03pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: Stop talking nonsense, you have provided no evidence, you just like to fool yourself. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 12:21pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
LordReed: A person Like you who does not know hydrogen and oxygen can never identify and separate them in a container containing 2H20, how much more distilling evidence from argument. You are shipwrecked on this rock. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by LordReed(m): 12:40pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: LoL, keep fooling yourself. You are now an expert in chemistry. LMAO! |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 1:31pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
LordReed: when you were in Secondary School did you not meet students who were good both in the sciences and in the arts? Osei Yaw Ababio, P.N Okeke and Modern Biology are still parts of my Library. And I was good in chemistry, I still remember the first 20 elements of the periodic table by heart, acid, base and salts, metals etc. Damn, I had very good education!!! |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by frank317: 2:05pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: Ur God does not exist, but u sure know how to rant and decieve urself. U say he refuse to believe in ur evidence And then say he does not know how to recognize evidence... Something is definitely wrong with ur head if u simply cant tell urself the truth |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 2:30pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
frank317: You came to salvage your shipwrecked brothers ? You are already headed to the same rocks that have drowned your brothers. I can do equally say "You do not exist" but that does not mean it is True. frank317: I did not say "he refused to believe in my evidence" I said "refused to see it, as is your power." So you see, you are the one who does not function properly. And now you are caught on the rocks and sinking!! |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by frank317: 2:49pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: U wish
U are insane if u say i dont exist after interacting with u. .. Well, u have nothing to lose by saying that since i dont have a million naira to give u and u just want to win an argument.
He refused to see it... What ever that means. U are talking nonsense and he is pointing it out and say he refused to see ur point. Is this how u prove ur so called all powerful existent God? [/quote] |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 3:10pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
frank317: That same insanity is on you for I know that I am speaking with John142 who exists but Frank317 does not. frank317: That's why you should not enter into what you do not know! frank317: Change of Post. The Post is your brothers are not able to identify evidence even with their eyes open. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by oaroloye(m): 3:58pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
MISHIGAS! HardMirror: THE ONLY THING I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS MAN, IS THAT HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE GOD OF THE BIBLE. After that, what do we need to know again? HardMirror: AFTER SUCH A WMD KILOTON INSULT, WHY SHOULD ANYONE CARE ABOUT YOUR SILLY VIDEO AGAIN- EXCEPT THEY ARE COMPLETE LOSERS-IN LIFE? So, we have learned nothing in life, except your Oyinbo has taught us, is it? HardMirror: 500 YEARS AGO, THE OYINBOS SYSTEMATICALLY MURDERED EVERYONE THEY COULD, WHO HAD ANY SPECIES OF "PARANORMAL ABILITY." About this time, they discovered the Americas- whom everybody knew was there, except them. As ARTHUR C. CLARKE said of his own people: . ANY REVOLUTIONARY IDEA GOES THROUGH FOUR PHASES: (1) THAT IS THE STUPIDEST THING I EVER HEARD! (2) " I ALWAYS SAID IT WAS A GOOD IDEA...!" (3) "I THOUGHT OF IT FIRST!" (4) "ANY FOOL KNOWS THAT!!!" After they finally accepted that the Americas existed, they began to investigate their Spiritual Knowledge, and found that it was better than theirs. They exterminated all the Native Americans who had that Knowledge, denouncing it as "THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL!" The final Death-Toll may have reached 100 million. At the same time, they exterminated everyone with Paranormal Ability in Europe. At the same time, they banned HERBAL MEDICINE as "Satanic Witchcraft," and legitimized Scientific, Alchemical Medicine as true Medicine. The same Oyinbo leader behind that move also officially declared that JESUS CHRIST was an Oyinbo like them, even identical to his illegitimate son, CESARE BORGIA. This was about the same time they invented the letter "J." About this time, the Oyinbos began kidnapping and enslaving Blacks- many of whom are the real Hebrew Y'sraelite descendants. All of these events are obviously related. HardMirror: THE OYINBOS SEEM TO THINK THAT THEY INVENTED "REVERSE-PSYCHOLOGY.[/u] This challenge is supposed to make paranormalists come rushing out to collect $1 million. That was the greatest thing they could think of. Why didn't JAMES RANDI say, that if anyone can show proof of Paranormal Ability, he would build a $1 million School, Hospital, Dam, Generator Plant, Factory, Foundry- things that would benefit their PEOPLE- rather than themselves? OYINBO MENTALITY [i]CANNOT THINK BEYOND THE IDEA THAT, IF ANYONE HAD SUCH POWERS, THEY WOULD WANT TO USE THEM TO ENRICH THEMSELVES! They cannot conceive of a people who are better than themselves. HardMirror: AN AGENT OF THE OYINBOS LIKE YOURSELF, CANNOT CONCEIVE THAT READERS COULD HAVE HAD PERSONAL, FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH PARANORMAL POWERS- AND NOT MERELY KNOW STORIES ABOUT THEM. I know that Paranormal Powers exist, because I have had them myself. What I currently have is but a shadow of the Powers I once wielded- but a return to full power is not hard, for someone who never actually renounced them. BUT THE OYINBOS ARE DESCENDANTS OF VERY WICKED PEOPLE- WHO ABUSED AND BLASPHEMED GOD. Therefore, it is VERY DIFFICULT for them to find God. Yet- NONE of them believe that their EVIL PAST means ANYTHING, when they want to contact GOD, or the Spiritual Realm. It is claimed that CARLOS CASTANEDA was invited to conjure a SPIRIT BEING inside a Laboratory, so that they could probe it with SENSORS, and determine its properties. I believe the report because Carlos Castaneda was really that foolish- by his own account. The Scientists reported that the experiment had been a failure. I am a Laboratory Assistant by profession. What impresses a layman means nothing to me. How did Carlos Castaneda know that the results were "negative?" Why did he assume that the Scientists would tell him the truth about their results? What did he think the experiment was for? Did he think that it was to improve the quality of life for the Spirit? Did he pretend not to know that the ultimate intention of the experiment, was to find out how to kill the Spirit Being? [b]CARLOS CASTANEDA'S BENEFACTOR, DON JUAN MATUS HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS.[/i] Carlos Castaneda: THERE ARE NO CREATURES ON EARTH THAT ARE FRIENDS WITH THE HUMAN RACE.WE HAVE BEEN WICKED TO EVERY OTHER SPECIES IN THE WORLD. Much of the cruelty was perpetrated by the Oyinbo Race. The heads of exotic beasts were a standard decoration of rich Oyinbos' walls. They killed them for SPORT. Some of these species NO LONGER EXIST- because the Oyinbos killed them- just to show that they could. Why, then, would a Spirit Being manifest itself in an Oyinbo Laboratory- when it isn't stupid? Those who show the Oyinbos that Spiritual Powers exist, may get a million dollars. After that $1 billion will surely be earmarked, to research how that power works, how to make it their exclusive property. The original subjects will be kidnapped, interrogated, killed, and dissected. Their organs will be extracted, and transplanted into the body of some billionaire, who wants superpowers, like a Comic Book hero. The RANDI PRIZE shows how stupid they think we all are. Only an idiot can spend 20 years looking for paranormal powers, and fond none. To kidnap and murder people who won the prize, or failed to win it would be too obvious. It would be people who never got that far, who would be so attacked. THE OYINBOS HAVE RELIGIONS THAT HAVE PARANORMAL ABILITIES. WICCA, and SCIENTOLOGY, for instance. In the case of SCIENTOLOGY, which I know well, it is impossible to be promoted without showing evidence of Paranormal Ability. This promotion involves PAYING THE ORGANIZATION to prove that one has the abilities one claims, or not. That is to say, THERE IS ZERO MOTIVE to pay for accreditation in Abilities one does not have. We are talking about thousands of dollars per head, here. The problem is: THEY CANNOT MANIFEST THEIR ABILITIES ON-DEMAND. The quick explanation is: GOD GAVE THEM TO USE IN HIS SERVICE. If one does not serve God, the Abilities manifest- once- then, maybe never again. WICCANS would probably pay James Randi $1 million, to go away, and not bother them! They have nothing to prove. They WANT the public to be ignorant. ECKANKAR is a ripoff of SCIENTOLOGY- but they can still do things. Then there is FULL-GOSPEL, PENTECOSTAL Christianity. JAMES RANDI knows all about the miraculous Healings that are corroborated by medical examination- but pretends not to know about them. He is not an honest liar. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by HardMirror(m): 4:07pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
frank317:WHAT EVIDENCE IS HE EVEN TALKING ABOUT? THIS GUY HAS NOT PRESENTED A SINGLE EVIDENCE SINCE. HE IS JUST RANTING |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Nobody: 4:13pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: It doesn't matter since you are the one saying it. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Nobody: 4:23pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
oaroloye: Define paranormal ability Define God |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Nobody: 4:37pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
HardMirror: Actually, the evidence of HardMirror's existence is HardMirror's introduction of himself If you never opened a Nairaland account with HardMirror as your name,then HardMirror never existed. Nobody can determine your own proof of your own existence except you allow such person to take a video of you while you identify yourself as HardMirror or you identify yourself as HardMirror to the person on Nairaland. So,these debates are meaningless since we keep asking those guys to give an evidence that they can never provide because they don't even have access to any God that will allow them to take a video while the God exists so that we can watch the God. There's no access to what doesn't exist. The problem is even the definition of God. The definition has nothing to do with reality or what is real. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by HardMirror(m): 5:00pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
HellVictorinho:sir, you just said it all. the issue of the definition of God is actually the root problem |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by frank317: 6:27pm On Aug 13, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: He is not able to identify evidence... He refused to see evidence.... I think u are confused. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 3:34am On Aug 14, 2021 |
frank317: You are a meddlesome interloper, since you are not a Partee, in the trans action so you must be confused. This is where you learn The Law of "Locus Standii" You no locus to speak on the matter and since you have no locus, you must obtain confusion. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 4:54am On Aug 14, 2021 |
HellVictorinho: I must be the one who says it because I am your opposing player who must watch out for when the ball goes out of the game so that I can claim my point. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 4:59am On Aug 14, 2021 |
HardMirror: Just as none of you can differentiate the Hydrogen from the Oxygen in 2H2O, so also can you not spot that which is "Evidence". So just as you are an illiterate in identifying the Hydrogen from the Oxygen in 2H2O, so also are you an illiterate in identifying that which is Evidence, which makes you all rant and stamp thy feet, as a child in tantrums, all the day long |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Nobody: 5:46am On Aug 14, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: Your claim is false. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by oaroloye(m): 6:55am On Aug 14, 2021 |
SHALOM! HellVictorinho: I SHOULD NOT NEED TO DEFINE PARANORMAL ABILITY, NOR GOD TO YOU, WHO ARE DENYING THEIR EXISTENCE. Are you not saying that you do not know what you are talking about? THE ABOVE-AVERAGE PERSON USES LESS THAN 10% OF THEIR MIND, CONSCIOUSLY. Therefore, the Paranormal begins with TOTAL RECALL. . THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25) (1) TOTAL RECALL. (2) EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION. (3) TELEKINESIS. (4) TELEPORTATION. (5) TRANSLATION. (6-10) EVERLASTING LIFE. "GOD" IS THE CREATOR OF EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS, AND THE ULTIMATE SOURCE OF ALL LIFE. . GENESIS 3:1-19. NOW the Serpent was more subtil than any Beast of the Field which The LORD God had made. And he said unto the Woman, "Yea, hath God Said, 'YE SHALL NOT EAT OF EVERY TREE OF THE GARDEN?' " 2. And the Woman said unto the Serpent, "We may eat of the Fruit of the Trees of the Garden: 3. But of the Fruit of the Tree which is in the midst of the Garden, God hath Said, 'YE SHALL NOT EAT OF IT, NEITHER SHALL YE TOUCH IT, LEST YE DIE.' " 4. And the Serpent said unto the Woman, "Ye shall not surely die: 5. "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing Good and Evil." 6. And when the Woman saw that the Tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a Tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the Fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. 7. And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. 8. And they heard The Voice of The LORD God Walking in the Garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from The Presence of The LORD God amongst the Trees of the Garden. that 9. And The LORD God Called unto Adam, and Said unto him, "Where art thou?" 10. And he said, "I heard Thy Voice in the Garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself." 11. And He Said, "Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I Commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?" 12. And the Man said, "The Woman whom Thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat." 13. And The LORD God Said unto the Woman, "What is this that thou hast done?" And the Woman said, "The Serpent beguiled me, and I did eat." 14. And The LORD God Said unto the Serpent, "Because thou hast done this, thou art Cursed above all Cattle, and above every Beast of the Field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: 15. "And I will put Enmity between thee and the Woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." 16. Unto the Woman He Said, "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy Husband, and he shall rule over thee." 17. And unto Adam He Said, "Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the Tree, of which I Commanded thee, Saying, 'THOU SHALT NOT EAT OF IT:' Cursed is the Ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of It all the days of thy life; 18. "Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat The Herb of the Field; 19. "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the Ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." YAHWEH GOD IS NOT OMNIPOTENT, OMNISCIENT, OMNIPRESENT, NOR OMNIBENEVOLENT: GENESIS 1-4 CATEGORICALLY DISPROVES THAT GOD HAS THOSE ATTRIBUTES. ATHEISTS generally pretend otherwise, in order to make God look ridiculous. . GENESIS 17:1-14. AND when Abram was ninety years old and nine, The LORD appeared to Abram, and Said unto him, "I am The Almighty God; walk before Me, and be thou perfect. 2. "And I will make My Covenant between Me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly." 3. And Abram fell on his face: and God Talked with him, Saying, 4. "As for Me, behold, My Covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a Father of many Nations. 5. "Neither shall thy name any more be called "Abram," but thy name shall be "Abraham;" for a father of many nations have I made thee. 6. "And I will make thee Exceeding Fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee. 7. "And I will establish My Covenant between Me and thee and thy seed after thee in their Generations for an Everlasting Covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. 8. "And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an Everlasting Possession; and I will be their God." 9. And God Said unto Abraham, "Thou shalt keep My Covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their Generations. 10. "This is My Covenant, Which ye shall keep, between Me and you and thy seed after thee; 'EVERY MAN CHILD AMONG YOU SHALL BE CIRCUMCISED.' 11. "And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a Token of The Covenant betwixt me and you. 12. "And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your Generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed. 13. "He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and My Covenant shall be in your flesh for an Everlasting Covenant. 14. "And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken My Covenant." GOD HAS A SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DESCENDANTS OF AVRAHAM, ISAAC, AND YACUB- TO BE GOD TO THEM FOR EVER. Therefore God required the Children of Y'srael to cultivate His Covenant, while leaving other nations to their own devices. Anyone who wishes to deal with God must go through this Covenant. If It is kept faithfully, the state of HOLINESS will be achieved, and THE TEN TALENTS will sequentially activate. THE TENTH TALENT allows free access to, and Communication with, God and His Realm. Direct Proof of God's Existence. . MATTHEW 11:1-6. AND it came to pass, when Jesus had made an end of Commanding his Twelve Disciples, he departed thence to teach and to preach in their cities. 2. Now when John had heard in the prison the Works of Christ, he sent two of his Disciples, 3. And said unto him, "Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?" 4. Jesus answered and said unto them, "Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see: 5. 'THE BLIND RECEIVE THEIR SIGHT, AND THE LAME WALK, THE LEPERS ARE CLEANSED, AND THE DEAF HEAR, THE DEAD ARE RAISED UP, AND THE POOR HAVE THE GOSPEL PREACHED TO THEM. 6. 'AND BLESSED IS HE, WHOSOEVER SHALL NOT BE OFFENDED IN ME.' " . MATTHEW 12:22-45. 22. Then was brought unto him one possessed with a Devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the Blind and Dumb both spake and saw. 23. And all the people were amazed, and said, "IS NOT THIS THE SON OF DAVID?" 24. But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This fellow doth not cast out Devils, but by Beelzebub the Prince of the Devils." 25. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and Said unto them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26. "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his Kingdom stand? 27. "And if I by Beelzebub cast out Devils, by whom do your children cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28. "But if I cast out Devils by The Spirit of God, then The Kingdom of God is come unto you. 29. "Or else how can one enter into a Strong Man's House, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the Strong Man? And then he will spoil his House. 30. "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 31. "Wherefore I Say unto you, 'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN: BUT THE BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN.' 32. "And whosoever speaketh a Word against The Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against The Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this World, neither in the World to come. 33. "Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34. "O Generation of Vipers, how can ye, being Evil, speak Good Things? For out of the Abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35. "A Good Man out of the Good Treasure of the heart bringeth forth Good Things: and an Evil Man out of the Evil Treasure bringeth forth Evil Things. 36.But I Say unto you, 'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK, THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.' 37. "For by thy Words thou shalt be Justified, and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned." 38. Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, "Master, we would see a Sign from thee." 39. But he Answered and Said unto them, "An Evil and Adulterous Generation seeketh after a Sign; and there shall no Sign be given to it, but The Sign of the Prophet Jonas: 40. "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the Earth. 41. "The men of Nineveh shall rise in Judgment with this Generation, and shall Condemn It: because they repented at the Preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a Greater than Jonas is here. 42. "The Queen of the South shall rise up in the Judgment with this Generation, and shall Condemn It: for she came from The Uttermost Parts of the Earth to hear The Wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a Greater than Solomon is here. 43. "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44. "Then he saith, 'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;' and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45. "Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this Wicked Generation." THOSE WHO HAVE ASCRIBED THE DIVINE WORKS OF LORD YESHUA TO EVIL CAN NEVER BE SAVED. oaroloye: THE FIRST THING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT GOD, IS THAT HE CREATED ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING. That is incontrovertible. It therefore follows that The Laws of This and Other Universes (of which there are seven,) are dictated by Him, and Him alone. . AMOS 3:3. 3. "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" TO WALK WITH GOD, YOU MUST AGREE WITH HIM. James Randi does not. oaroloye: AGREEMENT WITH LORD YESHUA BRINGS HIM, HIS FATHER, AND HIS SPIRIT (SENTIENT MOTIVATING POWER). . JOHN 15:1-16. "I AM The True Vine, and my Father is The Husbandman. 2. "Every branch in me that beareth not Fruit He taketh away: and every branch that beareth Fruit, He purgeth it, that it may bring forth more Fruit. 3. "Now ye are clean through the Word Which I have Spoken unto you. 4. "Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5. "I am the Vine, ye are the Branches: 'HE THAT ABIDETH IN ME AND I IN HIM, THE SAME BRINGETH FORTH MUCH FRUIT:' for without me ye can do Nothing. 6. "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the Fire, and they are burned. 7. "If ye abide in me, and my Words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8. "Herein is my Father Glorified, 'THAT YE BEAR MUCH FRUIT.' so shall ye be my Disciples. 9. "As The Father hath Loved me, so have I Loved you: continue ye in my Love. 10. "If ye keep my Commandments, ye shall abide in my Love; even as I have kept my Father's Commandments, and abide in His Love. 11. "These things have I Spoken unto you, that my Joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. 12. "This is my Commandment, 'THAT YE LOVE ONE ANOTHER, AS I HAVE LOVED YOU.' 13. "Greater love hath no man than this, 'THAT A MAN LAY DOWN HIS LIFE FOR HIS FRIENDS.' 14. "Ye are my Friends, if ye do whatsoever I Command you. 15. "Henceforth I call you not "Servants;" for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you "Friends;" for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. 16. "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth Fruit, and that your Fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of The Father in my Name, He may give it you." GOD WANTS TO USE YOU TO MODIFY AND CONTROL HIS CREATION. By Answering your Prayers and fulfilling YOUR Commands/Requests to CREATE/ANNIHILATE, TRANSFORM, HARMONIZE, or FORCE Matter, Energy, Space, Time, and Awareness/Life. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Nobody: 7:10am On Aug 14, 2021 |
oaroloye: I don't think there's anything like everything that exists neither do I think there's no thing without a beginning I think there are things without a beginning. In fact, there's no limit to the things without a beginning and these things can neither be created nor destroyed These things form different combinations. Living things are combinations that accidentally manifest consciousness. Do you know anyone with paranormal abilities? |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by BassReeves: 8:39am On Aug 14, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker:So, I assume you're trying to push a non existing point that Enoch didnt at all die a physical death? Is that Yes, that Enoch you are saying didnt die a physical death? Or its No, and you agree that Enoch did die a physical death? Dtruthspeaker:Methuselah? About the name Methuselah, are you familiar with the name? Yes or No? Are you familiar with the 'When he dies, judgment' or 'When he is dead, it shall be sent' interpretation meaning of the name? Yes or No? It certainly is another place on earth for as you rightly confirmed the earth was brimming full of evil, so God took Enoch out before the judgment that was to 120 years later to come. Dtruthspeaker:John 3:9-13 '9Nicodemus said to Him, “How can these things be possible?” 10Jesus replied, “You are the [great and well-known] teacher of Israel, and yet you do not know nor understand these things [from Scripture]? 11I assure you and most solemnly say to you, we speak only of what we [absolutely] know and testify about what we have [actually] seen [as eyewitnesses]; and [still] you [reject our evidence and] do not accept our testimony. 12If I told you earthly things [that is, things that happen right here on earth] and you do not believe, how will you believe and trust Me if I tell you heavenly things? 13No one has gone up into heaven, but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself--whose home is in heaven]' Based on the above verses, it could not be heaven itself nor any of the other territories of God which we know or not know of. Enoch had no state or quality of being divine, and so was not immortal Dtruthspeaker:Enoch died, his body returned to earth, his spirit returned back to God, while his soul is currently resting in Dtruthspeaker:Matthew 10:28 '“And you shall not be afraid of those who kill the body that are not able to kill the soul; rather be afraid of him who can destroy soul and body in Gehenna.”' Luke 12:4-5, 13-21 '4"I tell you, my friends, don't be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. 5But I will warn you whom you should fear. Fear him, who after he has killed, has power to cast into Gehenna. Yes, I tell you, fear him. 13One of the multitude said to him, "Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me." 14But he said to him, "Man, who made me a judge or an arbitrator over you?" 15He said to them, "Beware! Keep yourselves from covetousness, for a man's life doesn't consist of the abundance of the things which he possesses." 16He spoke a parable to them, saying, "The ground of a certain rich man brought forth abundantly. 17He reasoned within himself, saying, 'What will I do, because I don't have room to store my crops?' 18He said, 'This is what I will do. I will pull down my barns, and build bigger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. 19I will tell my soul, "Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years. Take your ease, eat, drink, be merry."' 20"But God said to him, 'You foolish one, tonight your soul is required of you. The things which you have prepared—whose will they be?' 21So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God." The reason why our Creator tells us that 'death' is a 'sleeping' is because a sleeping person is unconscious and is not aware of all what is happening around him or her, so it is with death, once a person crosses over to the land of dead, such dead person, is not aware of all what is happening around in the land of the living on earth, so effect such dead person is said to be 'sleeping' The body dies, goes back to being dust, the spirit returns back to its Owner, with an intact record of the person's entire life, no matter how small or big it might be, while the soul, goes to the land of dead, which has two sections separated by a wide gulf or chasm. If you want me to elaborate more on this, please feel free and ask. Mind you take cognisance of the above verses, to see that its the soul, that is precious to everyone. God wants to have your soul saved from damnation and destruction, however Satan is working towards achieving the contrary PS: Edited the out of excitement mistake of calling ABRAHAM'S bosom, Adam's bosom cc: oaroloye 1 Like |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by BassReeves: 8:39am On Aug 14, 2021 |
Image123:Matthew 16:28 'And I tell you the truth, some standing here right now will not die (i.e. will not taste death) before they see the Son of Man coming in his Kingdom.”' Hebrews 9:27 'And just as it is appointed and destined for all men to die once and after this [comes certain] judgment,' Brah, I would have loved it, had it being that without giving explanation, you simply just answered the questions straight up Brah, absence of Bible passage evidence that says that Enoch died is not evidence that Enoch did not die (i.e. is not proof that Enoch did not experience physical death) Brah, with the utmost respect, Hebrews does not very specifically says Enoch did not die. There different things here. It's one thing, not to see death, but its a different thing to taste death (i.e. to die) In, Shakespeare' Julius Caesar, Caesar quoted below is actually confirming scripture (i.e. Hebrews 9:27 seen above): 'A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once. It seems to me most strange that men should fear, seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come.' Brah, Hebrew 11:5, states that Enoch was translated that he should not see death. The verse does not say that Enoch did not die, does not say Enoch did not taste death, but only said he did not see death, and so this makes me re-ask the question again and I humbly hope you'll sincerely, honestly and truthfully answer, which is: What specific death was Enoch taken away not to see? Image123:Matthew 10:28 '“And you shall not be afraid of those who kill the body that are not able to kill the soul; rather be afraid of him who can destroy soul and body in Gehenna.”' Luke 12:4-5, 13-21 '4"I tell you, my friends, don't be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. 5But I will warn you whom you should fear. Fear him, who after he has killed, has power to cast into Gehenna. Yes, I tell you, fear him. 13One of the multitude said to him, "Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me." 14But he said to him, "Man, who made me a judge or an arbitrator over you?" 15He said to them, "Beware! Keep yourselves from covetousness, for a man's life doesn't consist of the abundance of the things which he possesses." 16He spoke a parable to them, saying, "The ground of a certain rich man brought forth abundantly. 17He reasoned within himself, saying, 'What will I do, because I don't have room to store my crops?' 18He said, 'This is what I will do. I will pull down my barns, and build bigger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. 19I will tell my soul, "Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years. Take your ease, eat, drink, be merry."' 20"But God said to him, 'You foolish one, tonight your soul is required of you. The things which you have prepared—whose will they be?' 21So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God." You are just reinforcing my point that all men taste death and so physically die, whether its Enoch, Elijah, Philip, Moses etc no man is an exception to that rule. Let me ask you another easy, simple, innocent, harmless, not intimidating and straightforward question, which is: How were Moses and Elijah perceived by Jesus' three closest followers (i.e. Peter, James and John)? Was it in the form of a physical appearance or in form of a vision? If Peter, James and John in their lives prior to that moment have never met either Moses and Elijah, how did they know and recognise them without any form of introduction? Image123:Brah, please stop using the same God yardstick for measuring puny mortal human beings Is Jesus, God or Jesus isnt God? Is it within God's power to be in Heaven and on Earth at the same time? Need I say more? Need I continue? Image123:Genesis 2:7 'And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.' C'mon look at you talking this way. Do human beings 100% obey every command of God? Guess your answer will be No, and thats likely because you know that the art of snitching is all down to having the gift of freewill (i.e. freedom to do as you like) Man, fundamentally is a soul, enrobed in a bodysuit or dust vestment Image123:It is the bodysuit, that makes a soul a man, makes a soul a human being. It is why our Lord and Saviour of the world, adopted the title Son of man, (i.e. male offspring of a human being) John 3:9-13 '9Nicodemus said to Him, “How can these things be possible?” 10Jesus replied, “You are the [great and well-known] teacher of Israel, and yet you do not know nor understand these things [from Scripture]? 11I assure you and most solemnly say to you, we speak only of what we [absolutely] know and testify about what we have [actually] seen [as eyewitnesses]; and [still] you [reject our evidence and] do not accept our testimony. 12If I told you earthly things [that is, things that happen right here on earth] and you do not believe, how will you believe and trust Me if I tell you heavenly things? 13No one has gone up into heaven, but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself--whose home is in heaven]' Enoch had no state or quality of being divine, and so was not immortal. Meaning that Enoch died, his body returned to earth, his spirit returned back to God, while his soul is currently resting in PS: Edited the out of excitement mistake of calling ABRAHAM'S bosom, Adam's bosom cc: oaroloye |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Image123(m): 8:57am On Aug 14, 2021 |
HardMirror: The atheist has defined god with no example. God doesn't fit into his definition, therefore there is no God. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 9:48am On Aug 14, 2021 |
BassReeves: Enoch and Elijah did not die at all. BassReeves: I think this is off topic for the issue is After Life! Re Enoch and Elijah. BassReeves: To where is the question for as you have confirmed, "the earth was brimming full of evil" so God could not have removed him from one part of the evil earth only to put him on the earth that was already full of evil. So he can not be put on brimming full evil earth. He has to be put in another clean environment of which by the words "brimming Full" the earth is automatically disqualified already. Besides, when Philip was taken, we were clearly told where he was dropped on the earth. When Christ came back from "Travel to After Life", we were clearly told when he came back to earth until his next departure from the earth, to which we are told that "He'll be back!" So, if Enoch and Elijah were returned to the earth, the Bible would have told us so. BassReeves: If you stick to the fact, as Written, that No one has "gone to heaven" I agree with you. But when you say there are no other territories belonging to God, then you do not appreciate that death and hell and the seas are territories under the control of God which is why by His Command by Revelation, they shall deliver their inmates and inhabitants to The Lord for Judgement, exactly as classrooms are the territories belonging to the Principal of a school which shall deliver up the students to the Principal for Disciplinary and Award Sections. It's as simple as that. BassReeves: This is your conjecture and an addition to the Bible, for the Bible clearly told the beginning and the specific end of the players of his day with the words "And he died" which was not used for him. BassReeves: The point here is, you agree with me on Afterlife, which is what the thread is about. |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by BassReeves: 10:27am On Aug 14, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker:Why wouldnt Enoch and Elijah die? Are Enoch and Elijah divinity and immortal that they shouldn't physically taste death and die? Dtruthspeaker:You think its off topic because you know it will expose the holes in your defence and so not to incriminate yourself you've gone to exercising your right to remain silent under cross examination Dtruthspeaker:"the earth was brimming full of evil" is a figure of speech brah. Does it really rain cats and dogs. Smh. Dtruthspeaker:Isaiah 57:1 'Good people pass away; the godly often die before their time. But no one seems to care or wonder why. No one seems to understand that God is protecting them from the evil to come.' Romans 5:12 -14 '12Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, so death spread to all people [no one being able to stop it or escape its power], because they all sinned. 13Sin was [committed] in the world before the Law [was given], but sin is not charged [against anyone] when there is no law [against it]. 14Yet death ruled [over mankind] from Adam to Moses [the Lawgiver], even over those who had not sinned as Adam did. Adam is a type of Him (Christ) who was to come [but in reverse--Adam brought destruction, Christ brought salvation].' You have a passion for arguing blindly brah. If you hadn't been making it a habit of evading answering question directly and answer them in a straightforward manner, the penny would have by now dropped for you. The bible is not obliged to give information that is considered to be a known fact. It is a done deal that without exception, all men taste death, all men physically die, all human beings die. Period. Dtruthspeaker:Would your agreement include that Enoch and Elijah tasted death, and so thereby died a physical death, hmm? Dtruthspeaker:Beloved, remember that I what I wrote was recycling back to you your 'So it could be heaven itself or any of the other territories of God which we know not."' comment Now its very simple that the only other territories of God which we know of to be is Sheol. Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour made up realise that Sheol in fact is has two sections separated by wide gulf or chasm. Every human being is destined to end of up at either of the two place until the Day of Judgment. No human being is in heaven , no human being has gone to heaven. Every human dies and their bodysuit returns back to dust, spirit goes back to God and their soul either go to where the Rich man is or go to Abraham's bosom aka paradise Dtruthspeaker:For you it doesnt sound as simple as that though Dtruthspeaker:Beloved, an absence of Bible passage evidence with the words "And he died" not used for Enoch, is not evidence that Enoch did not die, is not proof that Enoch did not experience physical death, does not mean that Enoch did not taste death It isnt conjecture, it Is fact sitting on the shoulder of both inductive and deductive reasonings. Dtruthspeaker:The thread is about Mr James Randi RIP who spent a good a considerable part of his life investigating and exposing charlatans Afterlife, in no way was not debated when you came out and decided to half heartedly respond to the questions I asked Image123. It is the note that Enoch died that you find very hard to swallow and whats giving you stomach ache Fyi, and have it for free, the fact, truth and point is Enoch and Elijah both tasted death and so physically died. They are no divinity(ies), so would succumb to death whenever the Owner of breath decides it's time He has it back 1 Like |
Re: An Honest Liar: The Amazing Randi - Expose Of Frauds by Dtruthspeaker: 12:18pm On Aug 14, 2021 |
BassReeves: The Maker of Enoch and Elijah Exercised His Right to Determine that they shall not Die. BassReeves: This is an unfair and unjust response for the rules of fair debate demand contestants to stay within the topic of debate and not go outside it. Therefore, we can not be talking about Enoch and Elijah, then you are introducing Methuselah. BassReeves: You obviously forgot that this was the issue of contest, so you have said nothing you are just being repetitive. BassReeves: Not when it is Seen, that BEFORE Enoch's history about his ancestry "and he died" was clearly expressed against his ancestors andimmediately AFTER his report, we see the return of "and he died". |
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