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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Jesuschristus: 11:54am On Aug 15, 2021
America has realized not everything military can solve

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Angelfrost(m): 11:54am On Aug 15, 2021
Biden is not being honest, just like his lying predecessors...

20 years and counting, yet they still can't come clean on why they literally took over wealthy Middle Eastern nations.

Who really believes such lies... SMH!!!

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Jesuschristus: 11:54am On Aug 15, 2021
Lol

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Nobody: 11:55am On Aug 15, 2021
The British tried
The Soviets tried
The Americans tried

They all failed

Leave the Afghan nation for Afghanis. Eventually they will soon learn that they need to modernize and the changes will happen and no Taliban can stop it

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Nobody: 11:55am On Aug 15, 2021
ok
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by peacettw: 11:58am On Aug 15, 2021
Even so, you don't unceremoniously remove all soldiers just cos you can. You helped destroy that nation like others before it and frankly I pray for a day you all will be sued for all you have got for this.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by ledaman: 11:59am On Aug 15, 2021
20 years of wasted effort undecided

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by AmuEbule: 11:59am On Aug 15, 2021
Good idea for US to leave those people. Fighting every time. Nonsense.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Lexusgs430: 12:00pm On Aug 15, 2021
40 years too, would not change anything........


Bombs and Bullets, can never kill an ideology..........


But USA & UK messed up big time...... A reasonably stable region with saddam, they have completely messed up........

Same with Libya, they stepped in and messed up the whole region........

20 years of occupation, over $2,000,000,000 wasted, loads of lives and limbs wasted.......

All for what........

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by thundafire: 12:01pm On Aug 15, 2021
mysticwarrior:
"Fourth, we have conveyed to the Taliban representatives in Doha, via our Combatant Commander, that any action on their part on the ground in Afghanistan, that puts U.S. personnel or our mission at risk there, will be met with a swift and strong U.S. military response" Do the Americans expect the Taliban to listen to this noise and tremble? For the past 20years the US forces has been in that country and the Taliban has seen the height of what the Americans could do.

Even if they bring in 5 US divisions to secure their shameful retreat the Talibans would still attack them, they have nothing to loose and the Americans have pride and reputation to protect. 1989 when Soviet troops were leaving Afghanistan the mujahedeens attacked them viciously, and the Talibans would do the same to the Americans.

Confused Americans reinforcing an army to help them flee from combat 'the best way to identify a coward is the back of his head as he runs from battle'
Trump deals gave Talibans an edge and that's why Biden left them to their fate because Afghan government are filled with sabotage and outdated Islamic ideas

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by softworldsystem(m): 12:02pm On Aug 15, 2021
Politics, interest, business...
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by michoim(m): 12:02pm On Aug 15, 2021
mysticwarrior:
"Fourth, we have conveyed to the Taliban representatives in Doha, via our Combatant Commander, that any action on their part on the ground in Afghanistan, that puts U.S. personnel or our mission at risk there, will be met with a swift and strong U.S. military response" Do the Americans expect the Taliban to listen to this noise and tremble? For the past 20years the US forces has been in that country and the Taliban has seen the height of what the Americans could do.

Even if they bring in 5 US divisions to secure their shameful retreat the Talibans would still attack them, they have nothing to loose and the Americans have pride and reputation to protect. 1989 when Soviet troops were leaving Afghanistan the mujahedeens attacked them viciously, and the Talibans would do the same to the Americans.

Confused Americans reinforcing an army to help them flee from combat 'the best way to identify a coward is the back of his head as he runs from battle'
Great response

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by ryloy: 12:03pm On Aug 15, 2021
The Afghanistan soldiers are not fighting back...they want Taliban back. Let them decide their future. They want Islamic Rule

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by IgboWarlord(m): 12:06pm On Aug 15, 2021
mysticwarrior:
did they "operated in internationally accepted rules of engagement" when they invaded Iraq without any justifiable reason, killing its citizen and leaving that country in ruins?

Without any justifiable reason,you say.Was Saddam Hussein and the atrocities he commited(especially against the Kurds)not enough reason? undecided undecided

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by michoim(m): 12:07pm On Aug 15, 2021
Joe Biden and his entire team are in a confused state. He was like criticising his predecessor yet he went ahead with the deal cut by his predecessor...

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by EnkayDezign: 12:07pm On Aug 15, 2021
Beancounter94:
The British tried
The Soviets tried
The Americans tried

They all failed

Leave the Afghan nation for Afghanis. Eventually they will soon learn that they need to modernize and the changes will happen and no Taliban can stop it

100% you have said it all

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Originalsly: 12:08pm On Aug 15, 2021
MrSamsung:


You talk like a kid even sounding like a terrorist sympathizer. Though I am not surprised because you come from a country that treats terrorist with kids gloves even calling them repentant terrorist. I don't blame you, I blame the so-called stupid and weak Christians who don't know their power thereby allowing terrorist and terrorist sympathizers like to flourish and become bold.

If you really think that America is making noise, weak, cowardly and that Taliban shouldn't tremble at what U.S said, let them go ahead and killed just ONE AMERICAN SOLDIER while they are packing out.


You talk like a kid. Why would the US even threaten the Taliban? That region was never ever conquered by foreign forces. The Russians tried and pulled out. The US said it wouldn't happen to them. 20 years after.... pulling out. Now threatening to return should the Taliban cross their line? ... return for another 20 years? ... why would the result be different? You cannot change a culture by force. The US knows why it was there in the first place ... there is always an interest when its troops are sent to a foreign land.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Geeman2006: 12:10pm On Aug 15, 2021
Bush should get a standing ovation.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Fuckyoumod: 12:13pm On Aug 15, 2021
mysticwarrior:
"Fourth, we have conveyed to the Taliban representatives in Doha, via our Combatant Commander, that any action on their part on the ground in Afghanistan, that puts U.S. personnel or our mission at risk there, will be met with a swift and strong U.S. military response" Do the Americans expect the Taliban to listen to this noise and tremble? For the past 20years the US forces has been in that country and the Taliban has seen the height of what the Americans could do.

Even if they bring in 5 US divisions to secure their shameful retreat the Talibans would still attack them, they have nothing to loose and the Americans have pride and reputation to protect. 1989 when Soviet troops were leaving Afghanistan the mujahedeens attacked them viciously, and the Talibans would do the same to the Americans.

Confused Americans reinforcing an army to help them flee from combat 'the best way to identify a coward is the back of his head as he runs from battle'
you got it wrong... Taliban has a lot to loose if Americans don't leave. The continuous stay would automatically halt Taliban advancement. If Taliban have good advisers the best thing now is to let America leave in peace.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by ofiko123(m): 12:15pm On Aug 15, 2021
Joe Biden has spoken.. Another person word doesn't count as anything..
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 12:16pm On Aug 15, 2021
DenreleDave:
Honestly, I dare the talibans to kill or touch any American soldier or citizen while moving out.... The world will mourn for them

Especially our Nigerian Muslim terrorist sympathizer.. Eg dermmy
I don't think that is one of their aims
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by calcal: 12:16pm On Aug 15, 2021
American troops to fight once again in another country’s civil conflict

"Civil conflict" - this is what the young generation was told.

British - Afghanistan war
Soviet Union - Afghanistan war
NATO lead by the US - Afghanistan war

They all left with shame!

Anyway, the war provides jobs for many, we need another country to start with.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 12:17pm On Aug 15, 2021
Originalsly:


You talk like a kid. Why would the US even threaten the Taliban? That region was never ever conquered by foreign forces. The Russians tried and pulled out. The US said it wouldn't happen to them. 20 years after.... pulling out. Now threatening to return should the Taliban cross their line? ... return for another 20 years? ... why would the result be different? You cannot change a culture by force. The US knows why it was there in the first place ... there is always an interest when its troops are sent to a foreign land.
That is the story of Afghanistan

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Nobody: 12:18pm On Aug 15, 2021
IgboWarlord:


Without any justifiable reason,you say.Was Saddam Hussein and the atrocities he commited(especially against the Kurds)not enough reason? undecided undecided
now that saddam is no longer there, what are they still doing in Iraq?

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by JohnBullMySon: 12:18pm On Aug 15, 2021
mysticwarrior:
"Fourth, we have conveyed to the Taliban representatives in Doha, via our Combatant Commander, that any action on their part on the ground in Afghanistan, that puts U.S. personnel or our mission at risk there, will be met with a swift and strong U.S. military response" Do the Americans expect the Taliban to listen to this noise and tremble? For the past 20years the US forces has been in that country and the Taliban has seen the height of what the Americans could do.

Even if they bring in 5 US divisions to secure their shameful retreat the Talibans would still attack them, they have nothing to loose and the Americans have pride and reputation to protect. 1989 when Soviet troops were leaving Afghanistan the mujahedeens attacked them viciously, and the Talibans would do the same to the Americans.

Confused Americans reinforcing an army to help them flee from combat 'the best way to identify a coward is the back of his head as he runs from battle'
Do you think Taliban would still exist if it were to be a conventional war? Bro Taliban would have been history.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 12:19pm On Aug 15, 2021
calcal:


"Civil conflict" - this is what the young generation was told.

British - Afghanistan war
Soviet Union - Afghanistan war
NATO lead by the US - Afghanistan war

They all left with shame!

Anyway, the war provides jobs for many, we need another country to start with.
What shame
As far as this is concerned.
It is clear the US was able to hold fort
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 12:19pm On Aug 15, 2021
jackslow:
now that saddam is no longer there, what are they still doing in Iraq?
Because Iraq is far more civilized compared to Afghanistan

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by ComrdDRS1: 12:20pm On Aug 15, 2021
Let them come to Nigeria abeg

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Sleekfingers: 12:21pm On Aug 15, 2021
MrSamsung:


You talk like a kid even sounding like a terrorist sympathizer. Though I am not surprised because you come from a country that treats terrorist with kids gloves even calling them repentant terrorist. I don't blame you, I blame the so-called stupid and weak Christians who don't know their power thereby allowing terrorist and terrorist sympathizers like to flourish and become bold.

If you really think that America is making noise, weak, cowardly and that Taliban shouldn't tremble at what U.S said, let them go ahead and killed just ONE AMERICAN SOLDIER while they are packing out.




do you know how many US soldiers those terrorists have killed? Afgan dey kill dem like chicken....

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Pymetrics: 12:21pm On Aug 15, 2021
He's talking as if their withdrawal is sincere. There is nothing they could pick or gain from Afghanistan, and therefore they are living. They have already put them in a place where Afghanistan will depend on them either through borrowing or buying arms.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Ayo2004: 12:21pm On Aug 15, 2021
These Americans too like eye service
They surely did not send their troops to Afghanistan and other middle East countries simply for peace-keeping missions

Like a famous man said,the CIA is the worst terrorist organization in the world

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