GardenOfGod:

If am lying then bring up a truth to counter my 'lie'

Iraq was invaded on the pretext that Saddam is stocking WMD which turned out to be false. Iraq was invaded so that the can still their oil and show off their military equipments for suitors to see how good their weapon fares in battle field

Jostoman:
terrorist sympathizer

that man speaks the truth, if you don't have anything to say its better you stay behind the wall of strong silence.

Abascoh:

You are talking rubbish, how did Trump's deal give the taliban an edge? Which provision in the deal have them an edge? The deal was about getting a ceasefire and forming a government of national unity in afghanistan so that US troops can pull out without any escalation of violence. This morön called Biden didn't follow up with the deal so it collapsed and the war resumed meanwhile most US troops had already been pulled out. Biden is a big fool, he literally handed afghanistan to the taliban by refusing to follow up with the peace deal and yet refused to do anything in the face of the taliban offensive.

Thank u!

Was following the development till the end. So surprised Biden couldn't honour a gentleman's agreement because if spite. Another failed war by USA

peacettw:


I understand. Even when I wrote that last sentence, I knew it will be an exercise in futility. Not for world powers.

They are not world powers just human powers !

They are also under world powers ... not all their wishes get fulfilled !!

baralatie:

I don't think the Taliban led govt will want to back another era of Al queda because it will mean another round of attacks which will not be good!
But it will also need to join the fight against ISIL because ISIL also believes in sharia.therefore the Taliban govt is not in the clear as of yet.

As the bold that is the truth

The number of American military ammo in Taliban's hand Sha!
Something Nigeria is begging for

The problem of terrorism is that it is deeply rooted in religious ideologies. It is a struggle of one religious ideology against others (The Jihadists believe they must win the world for Allah) and as long as that struggle exists, there will always be a possibility of emergence of another Osama. The real mistake Americans made is that they thought they can just walk to Afghanistan and convince the people that the Talibans are not good for them. They forget the religion of the people itself is the problem, it is the religion the Talibans exploit to get into power and as long as they continue to portray the west as anit-Islam and pro-Chiristianity, the people out of religion sentiment will always work to undermine the west and promote the Talibans.

Bbbwings:

The afghan military was compromised. How can you receive training for 20years and not able to put up a fight agaims a ragtag of militias.

Comprised by afghans who are in support of the Taliban

Simeonjoe1:


That's what people here are failing to comprehend. The US can't do anything at the moment in other not to escalate this less bloody turnover. Taking back the lost provinces will be a bloody fight and will last months or years. The only thing they can do is pull out and try to gain diplomacy with the Taliban which I believe they have been doing. They can also admonish them to uphold human rights and hope they listen.

You are talking about a radical one time haven for alqueda and Osama bin laden ?

DenreleDave:
Honestly, I dare the talibans to kill or touch any American soldier or citizen while moving out.... The world will mourn for them

Especially our Nigerian Muslim terrorist sympathizer.. Eg dermmy

Americans are dying on their own soil due to insane crime rates in their cities. Hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants from all over the world are pouring into the US through their southern border...and Biden's economic policies are ballooning the inflation rate thus destroying the welfare of Americans. At this rate the US will be history by the end of Biden's tenure if its citizens don't fight against the current administration.

baralatie:

Comprised by afghans who are in support of the Taliban

No, comprised of Afghans who were 1) in it for a paycheck 2) in it for their tribe or family benefit.

Then there is the fact that salaries are 1) not adequate 2) they could go without pay for months.

Add the fact that the government they were fighting for was 1) seen as America's poodle 2) corrupt and fantastically so at levels that make Naija look like a pristine example of good governance.

If a US soldier dies in battle, there are welfare packages for his family. If an Afghan soldier dies, that's it. His family can be destitute for life.

Speaking of income. 1) most of the income to pay those soldiers was coming from US pockets 2) it cannot go on forever.3) Afghanistan is not a productive enough country (except for opium) to earn the kind of revenues that could sustain a good enough welfare package for its forces without having to completely rely on foreign aid.

Beancounter94:


No, comprised of Afghans who were 1) in it for a paycheck 2) in it for their tribe or family benefit.

Then there is the fact that salaries are 1) not adequate 2) they could go without pay for months.

Add the fact that the government they were fighting for was 1) seen as America's poodle 2) corrupt and fantastically so at levels that make Naija look like a pristine example of good governance.

If a US soldier dies in battle, there are welfare packages for his family. If an Afghan soldier dies, that's it. His family can be destitute for life.

Speaking of income. 1) most of the income to pay those soldiers was coming from US pockets 2) it cannot go on forever.3) Afghanistan is not a productive enough country (except for opium) to earn the kind of revenues that could sustain a good enough welfare package for its forces without having to completely rely on foreign aid.

And their making allegiance to Taliban will secure their financial security!

baralatie:

And their making allegiance to Taliban will secure their financial security!

No it would ensure that they survive for their families. Taking on the Taliban as they should could lead to them dying...and then who takes care of their families.?

Many of the soldiers in the Afghan army don't want to die. For now, let them avoid death by handing over to the Taliban, they can worry about cash tomorrow.

As one redditior said ...most of these guys want to live out their lives herding goats on their family's patch of land till they die at the ripe old age of 53. Better save your life today. A living dog is better than a dead lion.

Beancounter94:


No it would ensure that they survive for their families. Taking on the Taliban as they should could lead to them dying...and then who takes care of their families.?

Many of the soldiers in the Afghan army don't want to die. For now, let them avoid death by handing over to the Taliban, they can worry about cash tomorrow.

As one redditior said ...most of these guys want to live out their lives herding goats on their family's patch of land till they die at the ripe old age of 53. Better save your life today. A living dog is better than a dead lion.

It is not as straight forward as you put it!
Those afghans will have to deal with regime change first(this will affect land use,taxation,freedom of trade,access to health excluding education,tourism,alcohol consumption,public gatherings etc)
There is practically little left for them to go back to
That is even hanging on the fact that If the era of Taliban phase 2 will not usher in a new wave of regional warlords

Pls give me the link for the documentary
I love learning invaluable lesson from watching such clips

melodyogonna:

Yesterday I watched a documentary on this conflict. The masses support Taliban, they hate the Americans. That is the only reason the Taliban can sustain fighting for 20 years. America needs to learn when they're not needed on time, in their bid to save face and show power they end up disgracing themselves.

DonroxyII:
They are not world powers just human powers !

They are also under world powers ... not all their wishes get fulfilled !!

I am not sure I follow

Simeonjoe1:


Lol the Taliban are wiser now, they are not radicals atleast compared to other smaller Islamic state factions. They won't touch US or other foreign diplomats, it's all about politics now and matter of interest.
And Kabul has just falling your mighty America spent billions, thousands of blood spills and 20 years fighting a battle they can't sustain. They can only bow to the Taliban now.

Nah, this is what the world wanted, Russian and China are happy now. If I were US president I would do the same.
Many people hated US for this war now they are pulling out u people are still complaining, u can't really please man.

efficiencie:


Americans are dying on their own soil due to insane crime rates in their cities. Hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants from all over the world are pouring into the US through their southern border...and Biden's economic policies are ballooning the inflation rate thus destroying the welfare of Americans. At this rate the US will be history by the end of Biden's tenure if its citizens don't fight against the current administration.

Lying through ur teeth

Zenithpeak:


Taliban never started as a terrorist group but conglomeration of strong and successful businessmen/Islamic fundermentalists with the aim of controlling the economic power block of Afghanistan. Like they did between 1996-2001. Al-Queeda is the terrorist organization while Taliban is funding them against the state when it became obvious to them that they can't return to power through ballots.

Now, they've brokered peace truce with America. America planted the outgoing government in place in Afghanistan and when America is quitting the war, her imposed government too must leave the throne.

America cannot appear to the rest of the world that they negotiate with terrorists backed Taliban so, they have to stage a walk-out from Afghanistan and Talibans take over through a cheap war so as to allow Taliban to achieve their age long dying wish ... (Economic power of the state)

Remember, there's no political structure on ground that American government in Afghanistan can relinquish power to. The only viable that can take over is the Taliban..... Everything is political solutions to the problem.

Forget those tough words, they were made for the news.

You are capping jor

Abascoh:

You are talking rubbish, how did Trump's deal give the taliban an edge? Which provision in the deal have them an edge? The deal was about getting a ceasefire and forming a government of national unity in afghanistan so that US troops can pull out without any escalation of violence. This morön called Biden didn't follow up with the deal so it collapsed and the war resumed meanwhile most US troops had already been pulled out. Biden is a big fool, he literally handed afghanistan to the taliban by refusing to follow up with the peace deal and yet refused to do anything in the face of the taliban offensive.

Can't you see u are a clown, a peace deal with Taliban.
Na mumu dey worry u.
So what was in the deal for Taliban if a new govt was to be from?
Taliban want to rule Afghanistan, and u said trump deal was to ceasefire and form a new govt, who would make up the new govt if not Taliban.
Sometimes u should think before u talk. Trump plan was just to end the Afghanistan war to put his name in the good book didn't care about anything else.

realoscar84:
Pls give me the link for the documentary
I love learning invaluable lesson from watching such clips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7VMSSkPV1g&t=5s

Techguy96:

Lying through ur teeth

Lol...time will tell...

What is now the gain in millions of young American lives lost and the trillions spent over all these years? Yet George Walker Bush is at his ranch in Texas sipping tea kai.

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otokx:
Afghanistan was a foreign policy mistake of the US.

You forget that the Brits and Russians also made that mistake.

Bbbwings:

Well they made sure to turn the country into rubble before leaving. It is the poorest nation on earth. They can make whatever the like of theor current existence

That is even a shame to the Americans, if you have to destroy entire country to suppress terrorist. It shows the terrorist are powerful than them and has taken over as if today. Na mouth and hype we see for america o

rottennaija:
And yet, he trying the same nonsense in China and Russia. America is exhibiting the attributes of a dying empire.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXYsGuBdzM4

American government and it's people have continually said they are not an empire. So she can't be a dieing empire since she has never been one

Scholes007:
American government and it's people have continually said they are not an empire. So she can't be a dieing empire since she has never been one

Yeah... I am not a human being

Appleyard:

Who is holding them from leaving? They were the ones who decided to run out from the country, after it dawn on them that 20 years of war could not deter the Talibans from their ideology...and they have been proved right...

Another landmark failure in US foreign policy.

you can say that again bro, the US failed to achieved their aim after 20 bitter years of occupation and now they have decided to accept their defeat and leave, its still surprising how some person still think the US has nothing to loose if they stay, forgetting how they have wasted $2trillion and lost thousands of soldiers.

Premiumwriter2:
your point exactly please.?

This is not a USA War. It is a f*cking civil war in another country.

There's nothing like defeat in it for the USA. If anything the USA are in to protect the rights of the people. From all indicators, the majority of the people preferred the Taliban side and now the USA is pulling out.

This is not a war to be thinking its defeat or victory. Its a matter of choice. The USA decided to go in and now they are pulling out.

read you comments over again and listen to how you sound. Since its a civil war in another country just like you claim, then whey would the US interfered and moved their forces there in the first place? The presence of a foreign army in a country is an invasion and the Taliban did a very good job to force the Americans to withdraw and that is a defeat for the US.

Danjikanbauchi:
Islamic Terrorists. Your people can not rule themselves. Curse on Mohammed skull.

am not a Muslim, and your point is awkward.