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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Henryfocoyo(m): 12:22pm On Aug 15, 2021
Full Wizkid fc

Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by GeneralPula: 12:23pm On Aug 15, 2021
GardenOfGod:

The American Army operates based on internationally accepted rules of engagement in combating the Pantami warriors.
If there were no such rules, Pantami warriors aka Taliban would have been history by now.

USA created Taliban..

You no nothing..

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Nobody: 12:23pm On Aug 15, 2021
peacettw:
Even so, you don't unceremoniously remove all soldiers just cos you can. You helped destroy that nation like others before it and frankly I pray for a day you all will be sued for all you have got for this.

No, on the contrary the US did try to rebuild. Just like their Soviet brethren before them.

The problem is whether the people you are doing the rebuilding for accept the rebuilding.

Fun story. The US built a security outpost in a part of Afghanistan. Then they trained Afghanis to run the post and left it in their hands

A few months later the post was stripped to bare bones.

The Afghanis have to want modernisation to develop.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by tymicjay77: 12:23pm On Aug 15, 2021
Simeonjoe1:


Lol cheesy the Taliban are wiser now, they are not radicals atleast compared to other smaller Islamic state factions. They won't touch US or other foreign diplomats, it's all about politics now and matter of interest.
And Kabul has just falling wink your mighty America spent billions, thousands of blood spills and 20 years fighting a battle they can't sustain. They can only bow to the Taliban now.

You can't continue to feed someone forever. If the Afghanistan president can stand up to there task why would America run there country for life. The America Army have done there best in ensuring the radical terrorist are suppressed, instead of the Afghanistan government to continue the tempo they relax . Now you people are seeing the failure of the Afghan. Government has the American's.. that is exactly what is happening in Nigeria, when the NA suppressed Boko Haram instead of the state government and community to step up there security watch instead they will relax even romance with the defeated or suppressed Boko Bois. How then will Nigeria defeat Boko Haram. Until we realise that extrimism breed evil and terrorist, war against terrorism will never end.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by jeffoe(m): 12:23pm On Aug 15, 2021
America that is now begging taliban or rather trying to make a deal with taliban not to attack it embassy whenever it takes over Kabul. I just feel sorry for those afghan people that worked for the United state and are not evacuated. They are at best a living corpse. Lesson from the story you cannot liberate a people who are not aware they are in bondage or have fallen in love with there oppressor

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Brunosamel(m): 12:23pm On Aug 15, 2021
MrSamsung:


You talk like a kid even sounding like a terrorist sympathizer. Though I am not surprised because you come from a country that treats terrorist with kids gloves even calling them repentant terrorist. I don't blame you, I blame the so-called stupid and weak Christians who don't know their power thereby allowing terrorist and terrorist sympathizers like to flourish and become bold.

If you really think that America is making noise, weak, cowardly and that Taliban shouldn't tremble at what U.S said, let them go ahead and killed just ONE AMERICAN SOLDIER while they are packing out.
You are also saying trash 60000 us soldiers lost there lives during the 20 years war, the taliban will kill any US soldiers and the US won't do anything about it... The US lacks visionary and strategies that's why they could defeat the Vietnam and the same happens to Afghanistan... They are just wasting the tax payers money fighting stupid war, US government that couldn't even defeat Syria assid who had Russia behind him.... The US are bunch of toothless bull dogs cuz they are corrupt and has committed war crimes in disguise as world leader and as for the Afghanistan government I have no sympathy for them too cuz they busy embezzling billions of funds that they could have used to strengthen the army instead they were busy creating ghost soliders now the country will collapse and all thanks to greed and selfish interests....
Taliban carry go and do as you please, you are the true hero in the war

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Brunosamel(m): 12:27pm On Aug 15, 2021
DenreleDave:
Honestly, I dare the talibans to kill or touch any American soldier or citizen while moving out.... The world will mourn for them

Especially our Nigerian Muslim terrorist sympathizer.. Eg dermmy
The Taliban has already killed 60000 US soldiers and nothing happened

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by ryloy: 12:27pm On Aug 15, 2021
Brunosamel:
You are also saying trash 60000 us soldiers lost there lives during the 20 years war, the taliban will kill any US soldiers and the US won't do anything about it... The US lacks visionary and strategies that's why they could defeat the Vietnam and the same happens to Afghanistan... They are just wasting the tax payers money fighting stupid war, US government that couldn't even defeat Syria assid who had Russia behind him.... The US are bunch of toothless bull dogs cuz they are corrupt and has committed war crimes in disguise as world leader and as for the Afghanistan government I have no sympathy for them too cuz they busy embezzling billions of funds that they could have used to strengthen the army instead they were busy creating ghost soliders now the country will collapse and all thanks to greed and selfish interests....
Taliban carry go and do as you please, you are the true hero in the war

Why do guys lie so much, 60000 American soldiers died ? Small small bro

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Brunosamel(m): 12:27pm On Aug 15, 2021
DenreleDave:
Honestly, I dare the talibans to kill or touch any American soldier or citizen while moving out.... The world will mourn for them

Especially our Nigerian Muslim terrorist sympathizer.. Eg dermmy
The Taliban has already killed 60000 US soldiers and nothing happened
The US is on the run cuz they know why will lose the war, they don't want to be humiliated just the they did to the soviet union

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Brunosamel(m): 12:28pm On Aug 15, 2021
DenreleDave:


Tell ur brother talibans to touch any American citizen or military while moving out.....

U Wil cry for them...

Simeonjoe1
Taliban has killed 60000 US soldiers and nothing happened

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by tuna85: 12:28pm On Aug 15, 2021
mysticwarrior:
"Fourth, we have conveyed to the Taliban representatives in Doha, via our Combatant Commander, that any action on their part on the ground in Afghanistan, that puts U.S. personnel or our mission at risk there, will be met with a swift and strong U.S. military response" Do the Americans expect the Taliban to listen to this noise and tremble? For the past 20years the US forces has been in that country and the Taliban has seen the height of what the Americans could do.

Even if they bring in 5 US divisions to secure their shameful retreat the Talibans would still attack them, they have nothing to loose and the Americans have pride and reputation to protect. 1989 when Soviet troops were leaving Afghanistan the mujahedeens attacked them viciously, and the Talibans would do the same to the Americans.

Confused Americans reinforcing an army to help them flee from combat 'the best way to identify a coward is the back of his head as he runs from battle'

America definitely knows they are losing out already after many years of oppression and causing unecessary wars in Afghanistan.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Brunosamel(m): 12:30pm On Aug 15, 2021
thundafire:
Muslims countries are all terrorist,USA stabilize them but they wanted bombers and not upto a month USA left they have gotten back Afghanistan again. I pity Russia when they turn attention to them then they will understand why USA don't waste time to strike them where they are
Russia was never involved in the conflict
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by iroko2020(m): 12:31pm On Aug 15, 2021
Stop lying
THE HUMAN COST:

American service members killed in Afghanistan through April: 2,448.

U.S. contractors: 3,846.

Afghan national military and police: 66,000.

Other allied service members, including from other NATO member states: 1,144.

Afghan civilians: 47,245.

Taliban and other opposition fighters: 51,191.

Aid workers: 444.

Journalists: 72.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by ryloy: 12:31pm On Aug 15, 2021
Brunosamel:
The Taliban has already killed 60000 US soldiers and nothing happened
The US is on the run cuz they know why will lose the war, they don't want to be humiliated just the they did to the soviet union

Why do guys lie so much, 60000 American soldiers died ? Small small bro.

Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Kingsleyphy(m): 12:32pm On Aug 15, 2021
GardenOfGod:

Yes they did!

Today is Sunday don't lie
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by kingthreat(m): 12:35pm On Aug 15, 2021
DenreleDave:


Tell ur brother talibans to touch any American citizen or military while moving out.....

U Wil cry for them...

Simeonjoe1

I really don't understand some people. The takeover of Afghanistan by the Taliban is a defeat of the US. And you are here daring the new government of the state to touch USA? You think other parts of the world are weak like your tribe?

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Nobody: 12:36pm On Aug 15, 2021
mysticwarrior:
"Fourth, we have conveyed to the Taliban representatives in Doha, via our Combatant Commander, that any action on their part on the ground in Afghanistan, that puts U.S. personnel or our mission at risk there, will be met with a swift and strong U.S. military response" Do the Americans expect the Taliban to listen to this noise and tremble? For the past 20years the US forces has been in that country and the Taliban has seen the height of what the Americans could do.

Even if they bring in 5 US divisions to secure their shameful retreat the Talibans would still attack them, they have nothing to loose and the Americans have pride and reputation to protect. 1989 when Soviet troops were leaving Afghanistan the mujahedeens attacked them viciously, and the Talibans would do the same to the Americans.

Confused Americans reinforcing an army to help them flee from combat 'the best way to identify a coward is the back of his head as he runs from battle'
This is Deep!! America is a hypothetical nation!! Yes America is advance in tech and civilisation but it's hypocrisy is second to none!

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by kushme: 12:37pm On Aug 15, 2021
melodyogonna:

Yesterday I watched a documentary on this conflict. The masses support Taliban, they hate the Americans. That is the only reason the Taliban can sustain fighting for 20 years. America needs to learn when they're not needed on time, in their bid to save face and show power they end up disgracing themselves.


I heard a retired colonel of the US army said, when you fail in a mission you withdraw.
America failed in Afghanistan that is why they are withdrawing...

I think 2003, after pushing the Taliban(al qaeda safe haven) out of power, they went there with a different agenda of imperialism promising the afghan people democracy, human right, girl child education and nation building. they would of allowed the Afghan government and Taliban to talk on power sharing while they look for ways to check and combat the terror groups.

20yrs with over a trillion dollar spent..

people wey don dey fight themselves for 4decades now..
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Zenithpeak(m): 12:37pm On Aug 15, 2021
Jesuschristus:
America has realized not everything military can solve


It was all a political solution to age long Afghan war. It has been settled before Bidden administration by former president Donald Trump. The more Bidden said he has no choice but to follow through.

The agreement is for US to withdraw her soldiers and Taliban will make a swit snatch of the government while the government will surrender the cities in quick succession with less blood shed.
It was a great plan and well executed in less than 2weeks.

Taliban has no reason to attack any American... They gave them the government on a platter of gold while the outgoing government has nothing to regret, they spent their time. Win, win, win for all the parties involved.
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Nobody: 12:37pm On Aug 15, 2021
MrSamsung:


You talk like a kid even sounding like a terrorist sympathizer. Though I am not surprised because you come from a country that treats terrorist with kids gloves even calling them repentant terrorist. I don't blame you, I blame the so-called stupid and weak Christians who don't know their power thereby allowing terrorist and terrorist sympathizers like to flourish and become bold.

If you really think that America is making noise, weak, cowardly and that Taliban shouldn't tremble at what U.S said, let them go ahead and killed just ONE AMERICAN SOLDIER while they are packing out.
Whedon.. white ass licker! Know the truth about America in middle East and save yourself this rants!!

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by SOPWriter: 12:38pm On Aug 15, 2021
DenreleDave:
Honestly, I dare the talibans to kill or touch any American soldier or citizen while moving out.... The world will mourn for them

Especially our Nigerian Muslim terrorist sympathizer.. Eg dermmy

This conflict is tagged war, and war is not robbery. It differs from mere ambush as well. When war eventualises, casualties hit all angles. Thus, this Al-Qaeda and Taliban-instigated war has claimed well-pronounced lives of US military personnel who are also "American citizens". I am an iconic antagonist of terrorism, and I forbid any more loss of lives (that could emanate from humdrum “dares”).
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by NoFucksToGive: 12:41pm On Aug 15, 2021
mysticwarrior:
"Fourth, we have conveyed to the Taliban representatives in Doha, via our Combatant Commander, that any action on their part on the ground in Afghanistan, that puts U.S. personnel or our mission at risk there, will be met with a swift and strong U.S. military response" Do the Americans expect the Taliban to listen to this noise and tremble? For the past 20years the US forces has been in that country and the Taliban has seen the height of what the Americans could do.

Even if they bring in 5 US divisions to secure their shameful retreat the Talibans would still attack them, they have nothing to loose and the Americans have pride and reputation to protect. 1989 when Soviet troops were leaving Afghanistan the mujahedeens attacked them viciously, and the Talibans would do the same to the Americans.

Confused Americans reinforcing an army to help them flee from combat 'the best way to identify a coward is the back of his head as he runs from battle'
Oh Hush

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by GardenOfGod(m): 12:44pm On Aug 15, 2021
Kingsleyphy:


Today is Sunday don't lie
If am lying then bring up a truth to counter my 'lie'
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by skybeauty(f): 12:44pm On Aug 15, 2021
The moment the US supplied Nigerian terrorist government the 6 super tocano fighter jets and deployed its Navy warship to the Golf of Guinea to stop the activities of “secessionists” in that area. God has delivered their to power to the terrorists they are sponsoring. From now henceforth, you will be hearing how strong terrorists are becoming against the Western Powers. This is the consequences of supporting evil. More is on the way, meanwhile those that are opposed to ESN when ESN started are now seen doing worse than ESN. You hear what happened in Plateau State. If you think there will be no reprisal from the terrorists you are joking. This is the consequences of not lending your voice earlier enough for freedom fighters. The solution is peaceful dissolution of this evil entity.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by GardenOfGod(m): 12:46pm On Aug 15, 2021
GeneralPula:


USA created Taliban..

You no nothing..
And Pantami become their grandmaster.
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 12:47pm On Aug 15, 2021
Beancounter94:


No, on the contrary the US did try to rebuild. Just like their Soviet brethren before them.

The problem is whether the people you are doing the rebuilding for accept the rebuilding.

Fun story. The US built a security outpost in a part of Afghanistan. Then they trained Afghanis to run the post and left it in their hands

A few months later the post was stripped to bare bones.

The Afghanis have to want modernisation to develop.
That is the real story of Afghanistan!
They by themselves don't want modernization in whatever form

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by CooKeed(m): 12:47pm On Aug 15, 2021
melodyogonna:

Yesterday I watched a documentary on this conflict. The masses support Taliban, they hate the Americans. That is the only reason the Taliban can sustain fighting for 20 years. America needs to learn when they're not needed on time, in their bid to save face and show power they end up disgracing themselves.

Pls share title of the documentary. Will like to check it out
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by oluwaahmed: 12:48pm On Aug 15, 2021
Brunosamel:
You are also saying trash 60000 us soldiers lost there lives during the 20 years war, the taliban will kill any US soldiers and the US won't do anything about it... The US lacks visionary and strategies that's why they could defeat the Vietnam and the same happens to Afghanistan... They are just wasting the tax payers money fighting stupid war, US government that couldn't even defeat Syria assid who had Russia behind him.... The US are bunch of toothless bull dogs cuz they are corrupt and has committed war crimes in disguise as world leader and as for the Afghanistan government I have no sympathy for them too cuz they busy embezzling billions of funds that they could have used to strengthen the army instead they were busy creating ghost soliders now the country will collapse and all thanks to greed and selfish interests....
Taliban carry go and do as you please, you are the true hero in the war
Pantami brother said 60k soldiers died in Afghanistan. Olofofo. America lost 2k soldiers, only God knows how many taliban terrorist died.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by stanluiz(m): 12:51pm On Aug 15, 2021
Defence Companies and Military industrial Complex don cash massively from the 2 trillion dollars that was wasted fighting an endless war.

You can never Conquer Afghanistan! The graveyard of all empires.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 12:51pm On Aug 15, 2021
kushme:



I heard a retired colonel of the US army said, when you fail in a mission you withdraw.
America failed in Afghanistan that is why they are withdrawing...

I think 2003, after pushing the Taliban(al qaeda safe haven) out of power, they went there with a different agenda of imperialism promising the afghan people democracy, human right, girl child education and nation building. they would of allowed the Afghan government and Taliban to talk on power sharing while they look for ways to check and combat the terror groups.

20yrs with over a trillion dollar spent..

people wey don dey fight themselves for 4decades now..
Of which the Afghanistan people were not enthusiastic to defend
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by afroxyz: 12:52pm On Aug 15, 2021
thundafire:
Trump deals gave Talibans an edge and that's why Biden left them to their fate because Afghan government are filled with sabotage and outdated Islamic ideas

The US does not have money to keep prosecuting senseless wars

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