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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 12:52pm On Aug 15, 2021
stanluiz:
Defence Companies and Military industrial Complex don cash massively from the 2 trillion dollars that was wasted fighting an endless war.

You can never Conquer Afghanistan! The graveyard of all empires.
The graveyard of afghanis you mean

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Awoleesu(m): 12:53pm On Aug 15, 2021
mysticwarrior:
am not a sympathiser of the Taliban..

You are!
In text and spirit... It's obvious with the ptaise-like suffix with which you described them in your original comment - "mujahedeens" cool

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by kushme: 12:56pm On Aug 15, 2021
baralatie:
Of which the Afghanistan people were not enthusiastic to defend
very correct.
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by tete7000(m): 12:58pm On Aug 15, 2021
The truth is that no man can save another except he is willing to help himself. If afghans don't fight talibans and defeat them, Americans won't be able to do the same. Omo to siwo ni'ya ngbe. The only thing is that Americans and the Western world should watch out for the emergence of another Osama once Taliban starts the control of Afghanistan..

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Appleyard(m): 12:59pm On Aug 15, 2021
DenreleDave:
Honestly, I dare the talibans to kill or touch any American soldier or citizen while moving out.... The world will mourn for them

Especially our Nigerian Muslim terrorist sympathizer.. Eg dermmy

Really? undecided what about the American soldiers they have killed for the past twenty years?

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by generalwo(m): 1:02pm On Aug 15, 2021
mysticwarrior:
"Fourth, we have conveyed to the Taliban representatives in Doha, via our Combatant Commander, that any action on their part on the ground in Afghanistan, that puts U.S. personnel or our mission at risk there, will be met with a swift and strong U.S. military response" Do the Americans expect the Taliban to listen to this noise and tremble? For the past 20years the US forces has been in that country and the Taliban has seen the height of what the Americans could do.

Even if they bring in 5 US divisions to secure their shameful retreat the Talibans would still attack them, they have nothing to loose and the Americans have pride and reputation to protect. 1989 when Soviet troops were leaving Afghanistan the mujahedeens attacked them viciously, and the Talibans would do the same to the Americans.

Confused Americans reinforcing an army to help them flee from combat 'the best way to identify a coward is the back of his head as he runs from battle'
.. So in the light of the looming threats from Russia and China, u expect the USA to continue to commit resources to the Civil War in another country? Bros if na u, wetin u go do? 2 of your neighbors wen get power dey threaten u from left and right.... U go carry your bullet go dey help person wen dey another community? Bros Biden made a wise decision in the light of the threats posed by China and Russia... They need to be on high alert right now...... They have nothing more to gain or lose in staying or leaving Afghanistan...... What will they use the pride for if they stay back? Coook chicken stew?

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Zenithpeak(m): 1:02pm On Aug 15, 2021
kingthreat:


I really don't understand some people. The takeover of Afghanistan by the Taliban is a defeat of the US. And you are here daring the new government of the state to touch USA? You think other parts of the world are weak like your tribe?

Taliban never started as a terrorist group but conglomeration of strong and successful businessmen/Islamic fundermentalists with the aim of controlling the economic power block of Afghanistan. Like they did between 1996-2001. Al-Queeda is the terrorist organization while Taliban is funding them against the state when it became obvious to them that they can't return to power through ballots.

Now, they've brokered peace truce with America. America planted the outgoing government in place in Afghanistan and when America is quitting the war, her imposed government too must leave the throne.

America cannot appear to the rest of the world that they negotiate with terrorists backed Taliban so, they have to stage a walk-out from Afghanistan and Talibans take over through a cheap war so as to allow Taliban to achieve their age long dying wish ... (Economic power of the state)

Remember, there's no political structure on ground that American government in Afghanistan can relinquish power to. The only viable that can take over is the Taliban..... Everything is political solutions to the problem.

Forget those tough words, they were made for the news.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by factwriter(m): 1:02pm On Aug 15, 2021
MrSamsung:


You talk like a kid even sounding like a terrorist sympathizer. Though I am not surprised because you come from a country that treats terrorist with kids gloves even calling them repentant terrorist. I don't blame you, I blame the so-called stupid and weak Christians who don't know their power thereby allowing terrorist and terrorist sympathizers like you to flourish and become bold.

If you really think that America is making noise, weak, cowardly and that Taliban shouldn't tremble at what U.S said, let them go ahead and killed just ONE AMERICAN SOLDIER while they are packing out.

Dozens of American soldiers in Afghanistan, if not in hundreds, have been classified simply as "missing in action" over the past several years.

But we all know they perish at the hands of the Talibans.

So quit decieving yourself.

Although not considered a military defeat, America is once again suffering an humiliating retreat, like they did from Vietnam in the Sixties.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by pacespot(m): 1:02pm On Aug 15, 2021
The fact is that if USA considers Afghanistan as a lucrative engagement for them, they will settle in the country and won't leave forever as they did in South Korea and Japan

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by shegzhkn: 1:03pm On Aug 15, 2021
stanluiz:
Defence Companies and Military industrial Complex don cash massively from the 2 trillion dollars that was wasted fighting an endless war.

You can never Conquer Afghanistan! The graveyard of all empires.

Graveyard of empires, Lol.

Where they going to stay there forever ??
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 1:03pm On Aug 15, 2021
tete7000:
The truth is that no man can save another except he is willing to help himself. If afghans don't fight talibans and defeat them, Americans won't be able to do the same. Omo to siwo ni'ya ngbe. The only thing is that Americans and the Western world should watch out for the emergence of another Osama once Taliban starts the control of Afghanistan..
I don't think the Taliban led govt will want to back another era of Al queda because it will mean another round of attacks which will not be good!
But it will also need to join the fight against ISIL because ISIL also believes in sharia.therefore the Taliban govt is not in the clear as of yet.

As the bold that is the truth

The number of American military ammo in Taliban's hand Sha!
Something Nigeria is begging for
shocked
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 1:04pm On Aug 15, 2021
pacespot:
The fact is that if USA considers Afghanistan as a lucrative engagement for them, they will settle in the country and won't leave forever as they did in South Korea and Japan
Afghanistan has an important oil pipeline
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by generalwo(m): 1:05pm On Aug 15, 2021
otokx:
Afghanistan was a foreign policy mistake of the US.
.... I tell you... It was supposed to be easy.... Stalk Osama bin laden and take him out wit a precision strike without raising eye brows! I don't understand why they had to station troops and open up bases in the country..... They made a mess of it all
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by shegzhkn: 1:05pm On Aug 15, 2021
Appleyard:


Really? undecided what about the American soldiers they have killed for the past twenty years?

We should have exited when we killed bin laden.
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by generalwo(m): 1:06pm On Aug 15, 2021
rottennaija:
And yet, he trying the same nonsense in China and Russia. America is exhibiting the attributes of a dying empire.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXYsGuBdzM4
.... If u say America is dying, I wonder what dying means to u!

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 1:06pm On Aug 15, 2021
generalwo:
.... I tell you... It was supposed to be easy.... Stalk Osama bin laden and take him out wit a precision strike without raising eye brows! I don't understand why they had to station troops and open up bases in the country..... They made a mess of it all
Without a base it would be impossible for the us to locate Al queda members in that region
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 1:07pm On Aug 15, 2021
shegzhkn:


We should have exited when we killed bin laden.
Then there was ISIL so not a straight forward decision
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by generalwo(m): 1:09pm On Aug 15, 2021
MrSamsung:


You talk like a kid even sounding like a terrorist sympathizer. Though I am not surprised because you come from a country that treats terrorist with kids gloves even calling them repentant terrorist. I don't blame you, I blame the so-called stupid and weak Christians who don't know their power thereby allowing terrorist and terrorist sympathizers like you to flourish and become bold.

If you really think that America is making noise, weak, cowardly and that Taliban shouldn't tremble at what U.S said, let them go ahead and killed just ONE AMERICAN SOLDIER while they are packing out.
.....the taliban won't dare kill an American soldier or its allies..... Reason is because, this will give Americans reasons to attack Afghanistan and the afgans wil blame the taliban seriously for it and there will be a serious back lash from the afgan population

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Appleyard(m): 1:10pm On Aug 15, 2021
thundafire:
Muslims countries are all terrorist,USA stabilize them but they wanted bombers and not upto a month USA left they have gotten back Afghanistan again. I pity Russia when they turn attention to them then they will understand why USA don't waste time to strike them where they are

LMAO. You pity Russia when it's the US that has failed catastrophically in their foreign policy?

FYI, Taliban sent a delegate to Moscow to assure the Kremlin that it will never in any way hurt Russia interest let alone encroaching into it's territory. The day they will do that mistake, that day would mark their end.... The current Russian leadership led by Putin are nationalistic compared to the capitalistic mindframe of western leaders who only get involved in such matters to fill up their private pocket.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by shegzhkn: 1:10pm On Aug 15, 2021
baralatie:

Then there was ISIL so not a straight forward decision

The plan - keep a small footprint of our top tier special mission unit and CIA SOG - US Navy Seal, Army Ranger, Delta force, et al to conduct night time raid and with the use of humint on ground we can conduct precision strike with UCAV on HVTs.
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by kushme: 1:12pm On Aug 15, 2021
Zenithpeak:



It was all a political solution to age long Afghan war. It has been settled before Bidden administration by former president Donald Trump. The more Bidden said he has no choice but to follow through.

The agreement is for US to withdraw her soldiers and Taliban will make a swit snatch of the government while the government will surrender the cities in quick succession with less blood shed.
It was a great plan and well executed in less than 2weeks.

Taliban has no reason to attack any American... They gave them the government on a platter of gold while the outgoing government has nothing to regret, they spent their time. Win, win, win for all the parties involved.


Can you imagine how the Taliban have captured more that 20 provincial capitals out of the 34 within 10days. they collected the second largest on Saturday.. They are advancing to Kabul.

After all the training and air support given to the Afghan military by US, they couldn't fight the Taliban for that long on their own.

Just few days. during the fight in jalalabad. most of the soldiers fled to neighboring Uzbekistan..

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 1:12pm On Aug 15, 2021
shegzhkn:


The plqn - keep a small footprint of our top tier special mission unit and CIA SOG - US Navy Seal, Army Ranger, Delta force, et al to conduct night time raid and with the use of humint on ground we can conduct precision strike with UCAV on HVTs.
Your level of accuracy is dependent on having a base in that region!
Or else you are asking for trouble
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 1:13pm On Aug 15, 2021
kushme:



Can you imagine how the Taliban have captured more that 20 provincial capitals out of the 34 within 10days. they collected the second largest on Saturday.. They are advancing to Kabul.

After all the training and air support given to the Afghan military by US, they couldn't fight the Taliban for that long on their own.

Just few days. during the fight in jalalabad. most of the soldiers fled to neighboring Uzbekistan..
We're the afghans fighting in the first place
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by FORWARDEVERLY: 1:14pm On Aug 15, 2021
Man doesn't want to loose more Americans to an internal war..

Let the dead bury the dead.. Simple..
Leave them to their wahala..

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by shegzhkn: 1:14pm On Aug 15, 2021
Appleyard:


LMAO. You pity Russia when it's the US that has failed catastrophically in their foreign policy?

FYI, Taliban sent a delegate to Moscow to assure the Kremlin that it will never in any way hurt Russia interest let alone encroaching into it's territory. The day they will do that mistake, that day would mark their end.... The current Russian leadership led by Putin are nationalistic compared to the capitalistic mindframe of western leaders who only get involved in such matters to fill up their private pocket.


Lol, na video game.
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Enice(m): 1:16pm On Aug 15, 2021
otokx:
Afghanistan was a foreign policy mistake of the US.
True talk. they made the same mistake in Libya, Iraq and Syria. those who think the USA, UK and EU would support their secessionist bid and protect them on the long run are in for a long thingi.
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by generalwo(m): 1:18pm On Aug 15, 2021
baralatie:

Without a base it would be impossible for the us to locate Al queda members in that region
.. Sir, the USA knows how it runs its operations in a country without setting up basis.... I got to understand this when it killed several terrorists here in Nigeria to rescue an American citizen that was kidnapped...... The bottom line is that they made a mistake and as a result useful resources and American lives were lost

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Zenithpeak(m): 1:18pm On Aug 15, 2021
kushme:



Can you imagine how the Taliban have captured more that 20 provincial capitals out of the 34 within 10days. they collected the second largest on Saturday.. They are advancing to Kabul.

After all the training and air support given to the Afghan military by US, they couldn't fight the Taliban for that long on their own.

Just few days. during the fight in jalalabad. most of the soldiers fled to neighboring Uzbekistan..

Kabul is down already... Taliban has now captured all the Afghanistan boarder cities without any opposition from the government forces..... An intelligent person should be smelling rat by now.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 1:21pm On Aug 15, 2021
generalwo:
.. Sir, the USA knows how it runs its operations in a country without setting up basis.... I got to understand this when it killed several terrorists here in Nigeria to rescue an American citizen that was kidnapped...... The bottom line is that they made a mistake and as a result useful resources and American lives were lost
The us made an entry in Nigeria with the accent of the top military brass and the president.
Without a base in the region a strike it is useless
Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by Appleyard(m): 1:22pm On Aug 15, 2021
Fuckyoumod:
you got it wrong... Taliban has a lot to loose if Americans don't leave. The continuous stay would automatically halt Taliban advancement. If Taliban have good advisers the best thing now is to let America leave in peace.
Who is holding them from leaving? They were the ones who decided to run out from the country, after it dawn on them that 20 years of war could not deter the Talibans from their ideology...and they have been proved right...

Another landmark failure in US foreign policy.

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Re: Bidden On Afghanistan: Five More Years Of US Presence Won't Change Anything by baralatie(m): 1:23pm On Aug 15, 2021
Zenithpeak:


Kabul is down already... Taliban has now captured all the Afghanistan boarder cities without any opposition from the government forces..... An intelligent person should be smelling rat by now.
Smell rat,mice odour

You name it

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