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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nemesis4you: 12:08pm On Aug 16, 2021
chrisooblog:
Man seeing the Taliban easily seize cache load of weapons and aircraft the Nigerian government had to cough out dollars with blood to purchase just has me all embarassed angry undecided
Easy got easier lost
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nemesis4you:
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Roan77: 12:21pm On Aug 16, 2021
The Panthers smiley

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nemesis4you:
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nemesis4you: 12:34pm On Aug 16, 2021
Stormtrooper11:
This is just the beginning of what I call the "ripple effect". These doesn't mean there would be an end to Western influence in the middle east, but there will be much balance between parties involved more than the past decades.
Also this will lead to what is known as too many cooks spoiled the broth grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 12:45pm On Aug 16, 2021
Nemesis4you:
Anyways a tucano crashed in Tajikistan after it ran out of fuel due to denial of permission to land . Thankfully both pilots survived with injuries
I was expecting a lot more pilots to abscond with their aircraft to neighbouring countries, fully laden with family members of course.
Just like the South Vietnamese.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 12:49pm On Aug 16, 2021
Nemesis4you:
Problem was the execution of the US exit not the exit itself

Trump initiated the process , in all fairness US was never going to sit there for eternity

Problem was Biden fuked it up , he pushed the exit without laying conditions & zero preparation & totally oblivious to ground realities - the exit process was crappies in the history of crappy exits

They could not even organise a proper exit of their own personnel's

If they had not withdraw troops and organised proper exit of civilians first what difference would it have made

Me thinks its a possibility that they did this to ditch their responsibility towards Afghans who helped them , so that they have a excuse to say they couldn't airlift them all because things became impossible

Anyways a tucano crashed in Tajikistan after it ran out of fuel due to denial of permission to land . Thankfully both pilots survived with injuries
All plans were in place for a gradual evacuation, but the speed of the Afghan government collapse put things into disarray. Get it right, troops were not entirely withdrawn, only scaled down to 2500 to secure key places in Kabul and the airport. Afghanistan simply failed to do their job.

Those pilots were definitely escapees.

Modified: US suspends all evacuation flights.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nemesis4you:
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 1:03pm On Aug 16, 2021
Stormtrooper11:
This is just the beginning of what I call the "ripple effect". These doesn't mean there would be an end to Western influence in the middle east, but there will be much balance between parties involved more than the past decades.
Currently impossible. The US influence is economically driven and will remain as long as needed. Just look at the large number of US military bases currently in the Middle East.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nemesis4you:
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by RiceProducers: 1:15pm On Aug 16, 2021
Nemesis4you:
How do u know that ?

Dont u see the obvious flaws in ur claims

Who tries to secure portions of a city with 2500 troops when entire city is vulnerable and a potential trap for the 2500 soldiers wherever they might be in the city especially when the evacuations have still not started , also considering large no of incognito taliban inside the city itself
You are forgetting there was a government. An army. I agree that the US is achieving its objectives by letting Taliban take power in an atmosphere of anarchy.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 1:42pm On Aug 16, 2021
Nemesis4you:
Also this will lead to what is known as too many cooks spoiled the broth grin
cheesy
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 1:47pm On Aug 16, 2021
Faithful007:
Currently impossible. The US influence is economically driven and will remain as long as needed. Just look at the large number of US military bases currently in the Middle East.
True. I do believe this might lead to a massive increase of Chinese infrastructure investment in Afghanistan. The Chinese will take this opportunity to give loans and economic aid to the Taliban state.
A chance for China to exert its influence.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 1:48pm On Aug 16, 2021
Nemesis4you:
How do u know that ?

Dont u see the obvious flaws in ur claims

Who tries to secure portions of a city with 2500 troops when entire city is vulnerable and a potential trap for the 2500 soldiers wherever they might be in the city especially when the evacuations have still not started , also considering large no of incognito taliban inside the city itself
They weren't meant for the entire city. Everyone expected the Afghan military to hold back Taliban from Kabul. The personnel were for embassy and airport protection. More personnel have been deployed currently. This is the sole fault of Afghanistan.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 1:55pm On Aug 16, 2021
So it makes it two wars. Mighty U.S.A has lost two expensive wars now
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 1:57pm On Aug 16, 2021
Faithful007:
They weren't meant for the entire city. Everyone expected the Afghan military to hold back Taliban from Kabul. The personnel were for embassy and airport protection. More personnel have been deployed currently. This is the sole fault of Afghanistan.
I don't think the Afghans ever wanted to hold out alittle. Immediately the United States started evacuating, the Afghans lost hope and interest. They just lost interest in the war.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 2:05pm On Aug 16, 2021
Stormtrooper11:
I don't think the Afghans ever wanted to hold out alittle. Immediately the United States started evacuating, the Afghans lost hope and interest. They just lost interest in the war.
Yes. CIA too may need to share the blame. I don't know how they couldn't figure out this out. Poor Intelligence on their part.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 2:06pm On Aug 16, 2021
Stormtrooper11:
True. I do believe this might lead to a massive increase of Chinese infrastructure investment in Afghanistan. The Chinese will take this opportunity to give loans and economic aid to the Taliban state.
A chance for China to exert its influence.
For now, nobody trusts the Taliban. Russia just ordered some evacuation of embassy personnel.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Coolliot: 2:06pm On Aug 16, 2021
Stormtrooper11:
I don't think the Afghans ever wanted to hold out alittle. Immediately the United States started evacuating, the Afghans lost hope and interest. They just lost interest in the war.
This is what happens when you fighting technique is based on airpower alone, the moment you can't always call air power, the fighting becomes bloody, and it's something training doesn't prepare you for.
I bet you, remove air power and let the USA face the Taliban squarely they would flee too.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 2:18pm On Aug 16, 2021
Coolliot:
This is what happens when you fighting technique is based on airpower alone, the moment you can't always call air power, the fighting becomes bloody, and it's something training doesn't prepare you for.
I bet you, remove air power and let the USA face the Taliban squarely they would flee too.
Not true. When fighting Taliban, they run the risk of being out numbered and isolated. Most of the war is asymmetrical and carried out in isolated regions. Hence the need for airstrikes.

If the US military is weak, how then did they invade and drive out Taliban from Kabul and Hussein from Iraq. Fighting a war becomes difficult when it slows down to an insurgency. Especially when the ideology is not dying out. If America should invade Afghan again, Taliban would be driven back to their caves in days. However, it would be back to square one. Holding back an endless Insurgency.

You can't expect them to remain in the country forever. Their local military has to take control, and they failed at that. Kudos to Afghan Commando Corps who kept pushing back the Taliban.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Coolliot: 2:26pm On Aug 16, 2021
Faithful007:
Not true. When fighting Taliban, they run the risk of being out numbered and isolated. Most of the war is asymmetrical and carried out in isolated regions. Hence the need for airstrikes.

If the US military is weak, how then did they invade and drive out Taliban from Kabul and Hussein from Iraq. Fighting a war becomes difficult when it slows down to an insurgency. Especially when the ideology is not dying out. If America should invade Afghan again, Taliban would be driven back to their caves in days. However, it would be back to square one. Holding back an endless Insurgency.

You can't expect them to remain in the country forever. Their local military has to take control, and they failed at that. Kudos to Afghan Commando Corps who kept pushing back the Taliban.
Read what I wrote slowly to understand.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 2:28pm On Aug 16, 2021
Faithful007:
Yes. CIA too may need to share the blame. I don't know how they couldn't figure out this out. Poor Intelligence on their part.
Lol. Sometimes, even the best of intelligence agencies fail.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 2:33pm On Aug 16, 2021
Faithful007:
For now, nobody trusts the Taliban. Russia just ordered some evacuation of embassy personnel.
True
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 2:56pm On Aug 16, 2021
Coolliot:
This is what happens when you fighting technique is based on airpower alone, the moment you can't always call air power, the fighting becomes bloody, and it's something training doesn't prepare you for.
I bet you, remove air power and let the USA face the Taliban squarely they would flee too.
Absolutely. I still don't get it. I don't get how regular troops can't fight asymmetric warfare without air support. In Afghanistan case, i think the terrain is one of the odds against foreign troops
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ecomog1990:
ugo4u:
The Afghan Army didn't crumble like a pack of cards because of poor infantry equipments with what we saw and the latest development the truth is that they didn't even put up resistance because prolly their loyalty truly lies with the Talibans, they were only bidding US time to leave before officially turning themselves and equipments to the Talibans, in other words US trained unofficial Talibans for 20yrs who finally handed over to the official Talibans when the US left, the Americans knew this from the onset that's why they didn't even trust the Afghan army; else how can one explain how a bunch of Turban/Sandals and Kaftan wearing Mujahideens numbering about 60,000 overrun an army with over 300,000 men fully kitted and equipped with American hardwares. Even if America handover their entire infantry hardwares the Afghan army will hand it over, the Afghan issue is a bit complex the Russians and Chinese aren't evacuating their respective embassies because they're ready to accept the Talibans as a political force/movement. Only Afghans can rescue Afghanistan for now most of them are okay with the status quo and if it's what they truly want that's fine. It's a complete waste of time and money fighting for a cause (Democracy) most of them don't believe in; what the world powers should do now is to recognise Taliban as a force in that country then find a way to make them respect human rights especially for women etc Not all countries will buy into Western style democracy, we have to come to terms with that even some European countries aren't fully democratic as some still run a modified form of monarchy, if Afghans truly want a theocratic state the world should let them run their affairs.
Dear friend, you may sound right on surface but deep facts from US Pentagon n Presidency, Afghan cities n media all say no.


Afghanistan is divided in two by ideology. True many rural Afghans support Taliban, but true most urban Afghans don't want Taliban. Kabul, Mazar, Kandahar, etc are full of pop music players, internet users, fashion shops, etc the millions of Afghans tasting loving n dont want to lose sweet life American freedom. See them run to airport !

US Pres. Biden boasts he gave Afghans powerful Air Force MD copters, Tucanos, guided bombs, but US Pentagon confirms Afghan Army 300k reduced in reality to 150k men, deserters flee weak ANArmy. No USA talk of Abrams tanks n Stryker IFV gift from America that gave Afghan Army useless Humvee to fight 75,000 Taliban experts with RPG, 50 Cal, KPV, ZSU 23 gun trucks.

Fact news reports August 1 to 15: Every Afghan Humvee troops that fought hard lost combat to Taliban, no MBT n IFV Mechanized Brigades that US Army used to crush Talibans to go hide. US SEAL trained brave ANA Special Forces were slaughtered in battle, so regulars flee to avoid suicide, melted away in thousands.

Quote US House of Reps Jake Auchincloss: "I commanded US & ANA Infantry. I fought beside well trained capable Afghan troops years ago. We built them world class air force and a bad army now suffering bullets shortage fighting Taliban. Afghan troops would have fought for their land they love if we built them a world class army."

America never accepts blame for its mistake, always find fault to blame another country

Humvee SF wiped out, 4WD Truck Army pick race, President jump fence cross border. Super Air Force + Junk Army = New Caliphate

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Litmus: 6:06pm On Aug 16, 2021
Coolliot:
This is what happens when you fighting technique is based on airpower alone, the moment you can't always call air power, the fighting becomes bloody, and it's something training doesn't prepare you for.
I bet you, remove air power and let the USA face the Taliban squarely they would flee too.
Lol, try and resist inserting Nigeria into this; see ugo4u for the definitive explanation.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by RiceProducers: 6:25pm On Aug 16, 2021
Coolliot:
This is what happens when you fighting technique is based on airpower alone, the moment you can't always call air power, the fighting becomes bloody, and it's something training doesn't prepare you for.
I bet you, remove air power and let the USA face the Taliban squarely they would flee too.
Only if one side uses civilians as human shields. Air power is very effective. Israel uses it with cruel effectiveness
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 6:34pm On Aug 16, 2021
Nigeria Lawmaker In Tears After Seeing Thousands Of Constituents In Refugee Camps In Niger Republic

A member of Sokoto State House of Assembly was moved to tears after he saw thousands of his constituents living in the Niger Republic as refugees.

The lawmaker met his constituents in a sorry state during a recent visit to an internally displaced persons' camp in the neighbouring country.

They were reportedly displaced by bandits and other insurgent activities in Nigeria.

Pictures obtained by SaharaReporters showed the lawmaker in an emotional state.

The Boko Haram insurgency has displaced nearly 2.4 million people in the Lake Chad Basin, a December 2020 report by UNHCR stated.

According to the report, Nigerian refugees totalled about 304,562 while there are about over 2.1 million internally displaced in Nigeria

Meanwhile, the UNHCR spokesperson, Babar Baloch, at a press briefing at the Palais des Nations in Geneva, said since April 2019, 25 per cent of the refugees who fled from relentless attacks by armed groups came from Sokoto, Zamfara, and Katsina states of Nigeria.

He said as a result of insecurity at the border region in Nigeria, an additional 19,000 Niger nationals have become displaced inside their own country.

The official also said the humanitarian agency is concerned about the influx of the refugees, “mainly desperate women and children, following the deteriorating security and attacks inside Nigeria’s Katsina, Sokoto and Zamfara states, also the risk of armed incursions spilling over into Niger.”

http://saharareporters.com/2021/08/16/nigerian-lawmaker-tears-after-seeing-thousands-constituents-refugee-camps-niger-republic

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by tutudesz: 6:42pm On Aug 16, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XoV5gV2gUU
Report of afghans falling from a C-17 during take off

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 6:56pm On Aug 16, 2021
Kanu Hisbah is growing in leaps and bound. Another Boko Haram loading... 60% loading.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Fynline(m): 7:06pm On Aug 16, 2021
So apparently the video of NN carrying out a rescue operation at sea was a training exercise.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_oCxKWAxBc
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 7:06pm On Aug 16, 2021
Xbee007:
Kanu Hisbah is growing in leaps and bound. Another Boko Haram loading... 60% loading.
The North needs to wake up to reality. The Problem of the North hasn’t even began yet.
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