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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 2:57pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
raumdeuter: ---Certainly Bush can't blame Clinton for 9/11---maybe you can explain what you mean?--- 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 2:58pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
feedthenation: Like I said, longer time frames, Afghanistan is a Republican problem back to interference of Reagan and Bush. But current GQP call those people RINOs, so they are exempt from repercussions as a party. Democrats also have their own wahala with Lyndon Johnson invading Vietnam and Democrat senators supporting Bush War in Iraq 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 2:59pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
feedthenation:You are yet to come to terms with the word, RESPONSIBLITY. For instance, If you, as a President, are going to a major foreign policy action, then you should be ready to take responsibility for the resulting effect of that action. You don't pass the buck, u own it. It's that simple. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 3:01pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
feedthenation: He can because Clinton allowed Osama to flee from Sudan to Afghanistan after the Kenyan bombings of the US embassy in 1998. Clintons only response to that attack was to send rockets into Sudan |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 3:01pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
True - but someone got to do the journalistc job. Be safe Ms. Ward. Same with Arwa Damon. raumdeuter: |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 3:02pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
raumdeuter: There are BBC reporters currently stationed with the Taliban interviewing them. Taliban is trying to show a non aggressive face for now 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:04pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
feedthenation: Presidents are elected to handle issues and not pass blames around, If you are planning to pass blame, its better not to contest elections. If Bush was interested in blaming there was plenty of opportunity to blame, Clinton had multiple opportunities to kill Osama Bin Laden which he didnt but Bush did not sit around after 9-11 saying its Clintons fault for not killing Osama despite his involvement in bombing the American embassy in Kenya https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/02/16/bill-clinton-and-the-missed-opportunities-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/ |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:08pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Ibime: That can change in a blink of an eye. When the local Afghans are trying to escape now an "infidel" woman that should be sitting inside her husbands hut is walking around seducing men and commiting haram. It only takes a group of 5 hardliners who are looking to get famous armyofone: That journalistic job can wait, not when everywhere don scatter. Native Afghans are fleeing, I am not sure these people respect journalists like in the west o. Everyone is free game. Many journalists were beheaded in the recent past 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 3:11pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
What do you expect him to do ? Leave America soldiers there ? Trump already signed an agreement for us to leave. Biden carried it out. It is left for the Talibans to do the right thing for the country/people. At some point, what is happening now would still happen anyway. Those in power in Afghanistan weren't paying the soldiers and police - they are corrupt like Nigeria - hard to do anything good in a corrupt country. obixcel: 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 3:12pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Them go calm down for few months until sanctions and such start hitting them. Nobody likes war in this life, even Taliban. That's why they were begging Afghan forces to give up cos they don't want to take over a destroyed City. Even Pompeo no like war, na why he go negotiate with them. One thing is sure in this life, nobody go ever try the Afghans again. Later down the line when human rights have been eroded, any major power they fight will take the easy way out and nuke them. BTW, Half of those people are Russian looking people. Russia would have dealt with them well if not for influence of Reagan |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 3:14pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
So sad - looking at the the sun shining/cool breeze and wondering the kind of destructions and atrocities going on somewhere in this same universe - life! raumdeuter: |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 3:14pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
armyofone: Thank you, it's them trying to be obtuse by all means necessary. People that actually have eyes can see and know what happened Just a. Month ago trump himself acknowledged nobody can stop it so? https://twitter.com/thenuzzy/status/1427051039404957697?s=21 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 3:17pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
obixcel: I won't say it was a lie. He was seriously clueless 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 3:17pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
obixcel: Oh you lecture us on responsibility Wonders shall never end. Lmao. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 3:19pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
I mean, I mean. Why the sudden changes? 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:20pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Ibime: Some people are made for war, all these Taliban have been living in the desert and are hardened people they already are in warfare for over 40yrs. I heard they already changed the name to Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. Some of those guys have not lived in a real house for over 10-15yrs No one that has tasted enjoment like war but for people who believed they are fighting for a bigger cause or for God, they dont reason that way same ideology with Boko Haram Surely Russia or China would have dealt with them well but Western standards of warfare doesnt work for these people, See how ISIS was doing anyhow, when Trump looked the other way and allowed Assad and Russia to deal with them, ISIS mellowed. In life cultures are different all those western idea of fighting war with humane face does not work with people who are ready ro behead or burn people alive in cages 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 3:20pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
raumdeuter: He reversed the deadline day set by Trump but committed himself to withdrawal of troops which everyone agreed should happen, withdrawal already started even before he became President. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 3:22pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Timiofak:Because people stand for nothing. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 3:23pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
“I started the process, all the troops are coming home, they (Biden) couldn’t stop the process. 21 years is enough. They (Biden) couldn’t stop the process, they (Biden) wanted to but couldn’t stop the process.” Trump 1month ago. All good - Trump and Biden did well bringing Americans home. Time for Afghans to do well by themselves and we will go open businesses there if they do (pipe dream ) Timiofak: 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:23pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
sanpipita: If Biden can reverse so many Trump policies, he could have reversed the troop withdrawal too if he didnt agree Trump is not president, Biden is. This is Bidens baby. Let him handle it. Nothing to do with Trump. If every president want to blame the predecesor, nothing with get done |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 3:28pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
raumdeuter: You are one missing it here No one is saying withdrawal of troops isn't a Biden thing. It is and I think a huge majority of Americans do support it The point we are making here is, this thing was wildly accepted by trump supporters, and even trump himself celebrated it Now when it happens why are they pretending like it wasn't something they campaigned for 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 3:28pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
armyofone: Biden couldn't stop the process you believe your own excuses 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 3:30pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
raumdeuter: I understand your feelings on this issue and seriously I can't be bothered because in politics people can pander and pretend if it means they put other side on the spot, I have seen people who supported troops withdrawal changing tone, where responsibility on Biden comes in is how he handles post Taliban actions. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 3:31pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
You should be glad our troops came back home benalvino3: |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 3:32pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Trump was able to gather support and votes for making promises of withdrawing troops, but tone has changed today, I'm just happy receipts are everywhere to expose these hypocrites 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 3:33pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
armyofone: They are now 6000 troops sent back into Afghanistan. I bet they are planning to send more troops. clueless 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 3:33pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_D3nFJ9sis Where's the President? When CNN turns on the Biden Admin., you know it's gotten real bad |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:33pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
sanpipita: They drive one in the wrong direction then accuse one of being lost, lol. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 3:33pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
benalvino3:lol |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 3:35pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
sanpipita: His tone has not changed. He said Biden did it haphazardly. Even Biden abandoned Americans there only to go back to get them. This is a sign that these people are stupid to the core. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:38pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
benalvino3: Biden did not want to stop the process! He is getting US out of Afghanistan. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:38pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Timiofak: Trump has his plan for withdrawal, Biden has his plan for withdrawal. Trump is not president, Biden is and he implemented his plan for withdrawal How is this Biden plan going so far that he is now planning to send troops back to where he just withdrew from? |
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