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| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 3:51pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Emusan:Emusan LIENUS weak attempt to save face. ![]() Here is the screenshot "Trinitarians believe there is Distinction between their 3 Gods."
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| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by KNOWMORE56: 3:52pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Barristter07:Jesus is not a son of God ( i.e one among many sons) Jesus is THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. There is no other...! *. Hebrews 1:5 "KJV:For unto which of the angels said he at any time, THOU ART MY SON, THIS DAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?" *. John 3:16 "KJV:For God so loved the world, that he gave HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON , that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." FATHER/SON IS FROM EVERLASTING: *. Micah 5:2 "KJV:But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, FROM EVERLASTING ." (i.e the Son); *. Habakkuk 1:12 "KJV: Art thou not FROM EVERLASTING, O Lord my God , mine Holy One? we shall not die. O Lord, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction." (i e the Father) |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 3:52pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Janosky:Yes I will worship my God Jehovah the father of Jesus because he came as a man Jesus and died for me to save me Janosky. Will you do that to Jesus |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Emusan(m): 3:54pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Janosky:Smile.....3 Gods can you see your empty life outside ![]() When you're OK strengthen your brothers ![]() |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by haddeylium(m): 3:56pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
KNOWMORE56:Interesting ![]() But in contrast, Jehovah's witnesses only believe God's inspired word in the Bible Let's see what the Gospel says: John 20:31 — but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name. Luke 22:70-71 — Then they all said, “Are You then the Son of God?” So He said to them, “You rightly say that I am.” Besides, Mark says it at the outset of his gospel (1:1). The angel told Mary her child would be the Son of God (Luke 1:35). John the Baptist said the same thing (John 1:34). Nathanael said it (John 1:49). Martha believed it (John 11:27). Jesus claimed that He said so (John 10:36). The Gospel of John was written to convince the reader that Jesus was the Son of God (John 20:31). But knowmore56 of NAIRALAND says Jesus is not God's Son ![]() Enjoying this |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 3:56pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Janosky:Man is made up of Soul Body Spirit God Almighty exists as The Father The son The holy spirit Now your body is different from your spirit in texture and function and many other things but both of them is what makes you a man Same way your soul function is different from your body and spirit but it what makes you a man That is how God the father is different from God the son the only difference is in the work they do but they are both God Almighty Why do you find it hard to understand this design of God |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Emusan(m): 4:01pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
haddeylium:Really Let's see what the Gospel says:Yet after you see all these people saying Jesus is the son of God, you still believe Jesus to be Angel Michael ![]() Yet this " Jehovah's witnesses only believe God's inspired word in the Bible" But knowmore56 of NAIRALAND says Jesus is not God's SonDid you see where he emphasize on "A SON" and not just SON? But haddeylium says Jesus is Angel Michael I love this |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by haddeylium(m): 4:04pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Emusan:Is Angel Michael a daughter of God? ![]() Any being created by God is God's Son as a virtue of being created ![]() |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 4:06pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Janosky:Yes I will worship my God Jehovah the father of Jesus because he came as a man Jesus and died for me to save me Janosky. Will you do that to Jesus |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Emusan(m): 4:08pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
haddeylium:So this "( Jehovah's witnesses only believe God's inspired word in the Bible)" is a lie after all that's Tonderful ![]() |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 4:10pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Janosky:It will be all under CONTINUE DECEIVING YOURSELF after I captured this post with images. What do you do to my post you cancelled it out. Cancel the original as posted by me then I will quote the whole pages. It is not like the pages have anything different to say about this Holy spirit is not Jehovah’s power Holy spirit is God's power in action, his active force ![]() |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:11pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
haddeylium:Ironically these people want to rewrite God's word that Jesus isn't God's Son but it's so pathetic that they can't help it as it's written everywhere that for anyone to gain everlasting life you must beleive that Jesus is God's Son! John 3:16-18 |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 4:14pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
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| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by KNOWMORE56: 4:15pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Janosky:Tell us why Jesus is not to be worshiped bearing in mind His saying I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE. *. John 10:30 "KJV:I and my Father are one." Father/son is the shepherd: *. Psalm 23:1 "KJV: The Lord is my shepherd ; I shall not want." (i.e the Father) *. John 10 14 "KJV: I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine." ( i.e the Son) |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 4:17pm On Sep 05, 2021*. Modified: 4:42pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Janosky:Achorladey brain no dey where God put am...... Janosky Even as e no dey where God put am. E dey able to see the below Personification does prove personality for Jesus but not for HOLY SPIRIT The standard here is PERSONIFICATION does not prove personality Your phone speaks your brain is where it should be as it applies to holy spirit. Awon people wey their brains no dey where God put am |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by haddeylium(m): 4:18pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Janosky:Dont even stress youself. Trinity doctrine is dead on arrival Trinitarian dogma is not found in the Scriptures and nowhere is the concepts that are embodied in that dogma implied ![]() The “trinity” doctrine was not taught and accepted until well into the 5th Century after Jesus and the apostles. it's a common knowledge that the concept of it was developed by CONSTANTINE (a pagan) He established the creed of the Council of Nicaea as the standard for his realm and convened the Council of Constantinople in 381 C.E. to clarify the formula of TRINITY. He did all that to settle the disputes self acclaimed christians were having and stabilized his empires. Hope you know that your fight for trinity is in the glory of Emperor Constantine ![]() |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by haddeylium(m): 4:22pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Emusan:Abi nah |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 4:23pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
haddeylium:So explain to me what Jesus meant by this Matthew 28:19 ► New International Version Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, New Living Translation Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. English Standard Version Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Berean Study Bible Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, Berean Literal Bible Therefore having gone, disciple all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by haddeylium(m): 4:24pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
KNOWMORE56:Diswan is pure embarrassment o ![]() You're not representing your trinitarians brothers well at all What's this? ![]() |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:25pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
KNOWMORE56:JEHOVAH, JESUS and all members of the CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION are ONE: "I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one" John 17:22 So will you WORSHIP me as part of those who are ONE with God? ![]() God's word said: "And he gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelizers, some as SHEPHERDS and teachers" Ephesians 4:11 It's like you should WORSHIP me o because i'm also one of the shepherds in the Christian congregation! ![]() |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 4:28pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Janosky:Janosky Remember what Bible said he who refuse the son has refused the father The spirit of Antichrist will hate the son You remember Daniel and John said every one will serve and worship Jesus This is the fourth time Will you serve and worship Jesus |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 4:36pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Emusan:Such as this Watchtower of November 1,1917, published a year after Russell’s death, contained an article titled: “A Tribute to the Seventh Messenger.” In part, it said: The great drama of the Gospel Age opened with the apostle Paul as the chief messenger, or angel, to the Church. It closes with Pastor Russell as the seventh and last messenger to the Church militant. For the other five epochs of the Church, the Lord provided messengers in the order named; St. John, Arius, Waldo, Wycliffe and Luther. Each in his turn bore the message due to be understood during the epoch he represented. The two most prominent messengers however, are the first and the last: St. Paul and Pastor Russell...... Can you see where it states.... Pastor Russell is more prominent than John. As at then they were still calling them SAINTS. Do that now, you here them classify it as IDOLATRY. The writings of John and Paul dey Bible, what about the writings of Russell? Each in his turn bore the message due to be understood during the epoch he represented......... I bet the message to be understood during each epoch is what they are arguing all over which includes TRINITY and DEITY of JESUS ![]() |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 4:39pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
haddeylium:Dont even stress youself. Trinity doctrine is dead on arrival Trinitarian dogma is not found in the Scriptures and nowhere is the concepts that are embodied in that dogma implied.. Hadd It is always dead on arrival but that DEAD thing(TRINITY) is what brings you and your likes to this forum every now and then. To kill TRINITY multiple times over. |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by haddeylium(m): 4:40pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:If you question is if this particular verse support Trinity. No! It does not! Father, Son and Holyspirit were mentioned but it says nothing about them being co-equal, co-eternal , or equal in power. As an ambassador, if I'm tasked to deliver a speech in a foreign country. In my speech, I start by saying, "In the name of Our president, Our senate and Our house of representatives and even our beloved country. This is my message to you ... That does not impliy that those aforementioned people are equal in power or authority or does it? In the same way, to baptize in “the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit” would mean in recognition of the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 4:47pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Barristter07:hebrews 2:17 was not talking about the nature of his brother rather their sufferings, trials etc not sin nature. Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. Glory does not mean authority, who is your teacher ?you are dull! Where did I say glory means authority? You have being running around trying to avoid the issue. All that the father has both his glory,power and authority belongs to Jesus. John 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by haddeylium(m): 4:51pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
achorladey:Just like you. Your matter dey Jesus hand too ![]() achorladey: |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by KNOWMORE56: 4:51pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Barristter07:" Ehud was called isreals savior, The same scripture said Jehovah is Isreals saviour. Neither is wrong, cos Ehud cannot perform anything without God's spirit ." See, there's no other being with ALL the attributes of the only true God, only God the Son. "...The Father's spirit ..." The Father's spirit is the same as the Son's spirit: *. Romans 8:9 "KJV: But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ , he is none of his. *. Philippines 1:19 "KJV: For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, " *. 1 peter 1:11 "10 KJV: Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: 11 KJV: Searching what, or what manner of time THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. Note: apostle Peter says THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST was in all the prophets from Genesis to revelation! "And let me ask you this: why is nobody created in Jesus image if he is the creator ?" We are created in His image...! *. Genesis 1:26 "KJV:And God said, LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." Note: in our IMAGE not IMAGES because the Son and the Father are one! You can also read John 10:30 |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by freshboi88: 4:56pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Janosky:Already thrashed this: Angels are spirits but they only share a tiny percentage of God's being. However here is what your Bible says about Jesus NWT Heb 1:8 He is the reflection of God’s glory+ and the exact representation of his very being,+ and he sustains all things by the word of his power. Why is a created limited and finite Jesus the exact representation of the very being of an unlimited, infinite Jehovah ? Teach us sir we want to learn |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 4:59pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
haddeylium:That was my post which is why I said you will keep saying TRINITY is dead on arrival and keep arguing over dead things on this platform. Where my argument stop about trinity na where you start ![]() In reality I was here before you on all of these things. Abeg more dey behind go bring am up. Just like you. Your matter dey Jesus hand too... Haddeylium Jesus will be in a very good position to attend to that.....Achorladey Abi since TRINITY no dey gree die Learn! |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by freshboi88: 5:02pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
Janosky:You are arguing with yourself. What we want is answers from u Rev 5 13-14 Every creature in heaven, earth, sea, under the earth worship, praise, honor, glorify Jehovah and Jesus. 1. Why is Jesus no part of every creature 2. Why is he on the side of the creator receiving same honor, glory, praise, worship that Jehovah receives. Your duty to tell us why your NWT is contradicting itself. Cos I ma quoting your own scripture
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| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by freshboi88: 5:07pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:You are arguing with yourself. What we want is answers from u Rev 5 13-14 Every creature in heaven, earth, sea, under the earth worship, praise, honor, glorify Jehovah and Jesus. 1. Why is Jesus no part of every creature 2. Why is he on the side of the creator receiving same honor, glory, praise, worship that Jehovah receives. What you need to b telling us now is why are your elders teaching one thing Nd their Bible is saying another |
| Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Emusan(m): 5:12pm On Sep 05, 2021 |
haddeylium:Says the ignorance who doesn't know Trinity has been around before 5th century ![]() The “trinity” doctrine was not taught and accepted until well into the 5th Century after Jesus and the apostles.50 AD The Huleatt Manuscript 74AD The Letter of Barnabas 80AD Herman 140AD Aristides 150AD Justin Martyr 150AD Polycarp of Smyrna 160AD Mathetes 170AD Tatian the Syrian 177AD Athenagoras 177AD Melito of Sardis 180AD Theophilus of Antioch 180AD Ireneaus 190AD Clement of Alexandria To list few who taught and wrote about early Christians belief in Trinity. it's a common knowledge that the concept of it was developed by CONSTANTINE (a pagan) He established the creed of the Council of Nicaea as the standard for his realm and convened the Council of Constantinople in 381 C.E. to clarify the formula of TRINITY. He did all that to settle the disputes self acclaimed christians were having and stabilized his empires.The same lie your organization propagated in their publication "Should you believe in Trinity?" before it was taken down because of people's reaction. I thought since your light is brighter than them you should know better but alas you people still stuck in the same old light ![]() Hope you know that your fight for trinity is in the glory of Emperor ConstantineHistory will cure your ignorance when you know the teaching of Trinity predated Constantine Just as The book Crucifixion—The Archaeological Evidence: By Vassilios Tzaferis exposes the lie of your organization that Jesus died on a STAKE when in history neither Jews nor Roman who crucified Jesus ever used pole to crucify anyone. |
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